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Dead Android bot on update install

SO my N7 is rooted through Wugs tool, it has been great so far!
Now though, when I try to install the system update, my little android bot dies with an exclamation mark above him and I have to hard reboot.
Any ideas?

Probably because you now have a custom recovery instead of stock.

Travisdroidx2 said:
Probably because you now have a custom recovery instead of stock.
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So what would be the best route to fix this, I am overly tired of getting prompted to install my system update.
Thanks

Freeze the update apk.
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I think he's asking for a way to update it with the custom recovery installed...I could be wrong though.
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ExploreMN said:
I think he's asking for a way to update it with the custom recovery installed...I could be wrong though.
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My goal would be to update my N7, if for no other reason, than to stop getting pop ups every 10mins asking to install the update.
I am running WugFresh's toolkit 1.5.2, My tablet is running Jellybean 4.1.1 RO03C

An OTA update will not install or will not install correctly on a device that has been modified from stock.
But if your device has a custom recovery installed (flashed via Wugs) you can install a custom 4.2 ROM and you will have everything you would get from the OTA. The 4.2 stock rooted rom from scrosler is a good ROM to start with. Or use wugs to return to stock and take the OTA. Then from there you can root/ flash whatever you want to do.
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thanks for this thread,
im in exactly the same position except havent clicked accept update yet and glad i havent lol
asked many times but always get mixed answer's about updating my rooted nexy with twrp recovery, i did use goo manager to update to the latest twrp recovery
so im not sure if i need to un-root to update as the new twrp is supposed to work with 4.2?

ezas said:
An OTA update will not install or will not install correctly on a device that has been modified from stock.
But if your device has a custom recovery installed (flashed via Wugs) you can install a custom 4.2 ROM and you will have everything you would get from the OTA. The 4.2 stock rooted rom from scrosler is a good ROM to start with. Or use wugs to return to stock and take the OTA. Then from there you can root/ flash whatever you want to do.
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Thanks for the response, that makes sense, and gave me the info I needed!

Stock kernel for update 4.2.2

Just a quick question I am using bricked kernel on my nexus7 when I get the official update can I go back to stock kernel by flashing boot.IMG from my nandroid back up
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elsworth1983 said:
Just a quick question I am using bricked kernel on my nexus7 when I get the official update can I go back to stock kernel by flashing boot.IMG from my nandroid back up
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itd probably be best to figure out if 4.2.2 even updates the kernel

elsworth1983 said:
Just a quick question I am using bricked kernel on my nexus7 when I get the official update can I go back to stock kernel by flashing boot.IMG from my nandroid back up
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No. No. No. You will lose root access after the update. You will have to re root. And which stock kernel do you want to flash back to? 4.2.1? Maybe I don't understand your question..
If you're saying when your device detects the update and you want to flash back to its factory stock kernel, then yes you can do that.
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scream4cheese said:
No. No. No. You will lose root access after the update. You will have to re root. And which stock kernel do you want to flash back to? 4.2.1? Maybe I don't understand your question..
If you're saying when your device detects the update and you want to flash back to its factory stock kernel, then yes you can do that.
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Cheers for the input
i was just curious of when the update comes to my nexus 7 that i will have to return to stock kernel so it updates with no issues because of running bricked kernel. I have also installed vodo root keeper (think its called not with my n7 at the moment) to help me keep root. Will i be able to flash the ota through cwm with verification signature turned of ? Or do i have to install stock to flash it
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itd probably be best to figure out if 4.2.2 even updates the kernel
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scream4cheese said:
No. No. No. You will lose root access after the update. You will have to re root. And which stock kernel do you want to flash back to? 4.2.1? Maybe I don't understand your question..
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Ummm... the OTA process performs binary patching on individual files. If a file is not a target of the patching process, nothing happens to it. So that beggars the question of why you think that Superuser.apk/su (or SuperSU/su) would be targeted, as they are never distributed by Google. More to the point, neither of them exist in the boot image, so your assertion is flat out wrong.
Also, a sanity check (checksum) is performed on each and every one of those targeted files; if it should happen that there is an update to the kernel or ram disk, then the boot image will be checked, and IF you have installed a new kernel (or even have a trivially changed boot image), the check of the boot image will fail and the entire OTA will abort.
So, the OP's question was not only perfectly valid and reasonable, but exactly the correct procedure if the boot image gets patched by the OTA.
I'm planning on doing exactly what the OP suggested; but good Dog, I'm also going to do a full Nandroid backup before I begin. How wrong can things go if you have a backup to revert to? (In fact, I'm even going to put the stock recovery on the tab for the purpose of the OTA too - if you have an unlocked boot loader you can reflash or soft-boot any recovery you want, and do whatever you want thereafter.)
Even if you were to "lose root" you can certainly just over flash a minimal kit containing Superuser.apk/su. It's not a big deal.
Put down the toolkit and the hash pipe, and pick up the command line!

Can I OTA update?

Hey I'm new to the forums but been reading them for a while and I just have a question with OTA updates. I have a nexus 4 that's been rooted and have clockwork mod. I have also flashed the .33 baseband on 4.2.2. I have stock rom but Franco kernel however I backed up the stock kernel with his updater app.
I know I can't OTA with the kernel but flashing the stock one is no big deal. Can I OTA with the rest being on there?
Also if I do the lte wifi hotspot fix will that stop the OTA update as well?
Thanks in advance.
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As long you have clockwork mod on the rom you can not OTA...its always going to be manual way of flashing the OTA and that process will remove clockwork mod but using apps like voodoo keeps you rooted so you can easily install clockwork mod again after the update.
No Recovery+Stock ROM+Stock Kernel+Stock Latest Radio= auto OTA update.
I hope that made sense..but i could be wrong but that's what works for me.
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ROM: Mysterious AOKP 4.2.2
Kernel: Faux 123 latest tbm.
Recovery: TWRP

Helderg1984 said:
Hey I'm new to the forums but been reading them for a while and I just have a question with OTA updates. I have a nexus 4 that's been rooted and have clockwork mod. I have also flashed the .33 baseband on 4.2.2. I have stock rom but Franco kernel however I backed up the stock kernel with his updater app.
I know I can't OTA with the kernel but flashing the stock one is no big deal. Can I OTA with the rest being on there?
Also if I do the lte wifi hotspot fix will that stop the OTA update as well?
Thanks in advance.
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You CAN ota if you have a custom recovery.
However, the WiFi hotspot fix will kill it.
I made a guide with all the info you need. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848
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So if anything is modded at all except for basic root I won't be able to apply the update that arrives to my phone directly right? I will have to flash it in cwm? I assume I will have to wipe cache and such before I apply the zip right?
Do I have to revert anything back stock or can I just flash the zip directly over what I have now and just re apply the kernel and baseband?
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Sorry one more thing with the latest SU I will stay rooted I think but I will lose cwm and have to re obtain it or will I keep it if survival mode is checked?
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Helderg1984 said:
Sorry one more thing with the latest SU I will stay rooted I think but I will lose cwm and have to re obtain it or will I keep it if survival mode is checked?
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If you flash it from CWM then you will keep CWM and also keep root (if you say yes when it asks you).
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Sorry I am a bit confused still, when I get the update.zip and flash it in CWM do I have to wipe or no? and if I don't will everything stay the same? or will I lose my 0.33 baseband and kernel? I'm also wanting to do the lte hotspot fix so would I lose that too?
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If you flash it from CWM then you will keep CWM and also keep root (if you say yes when it asks you).
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Helderg1984 said:
Sorry I am a bit confused still, when I get the update.zip and flash it in CWM do I have to wipe or no? and if I don't will everything stay the same? or will I lose my 0.33 baseband and kernel? I'm also wanting to do the lte hotspot fix so would I lose that too?
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You don't have to wipe.It does not matter if you wipe or not, you will still lose your base band, you'll just have to flash the old baseband again. As for the kernel if the ota comes with a new kernel your old stock kernel will be replaced with the new one in the ota.

You actually can accept a ota update with a custom recovery but you have to be stock everything else, no other mods or anything. The ota will install fine and youll see that it goes through your custom recovery when updating. After the update you will lose root and your custom recovery however unless you recovery someone holds onto it.

As I know, we need to modify something after installing custom recovery. Else, stock recovery will be installed upon reboot. So even after modifying, OTA still works ?
Rizy7 said:
You actually can accept a ota update with a custom recovery but you have to be stock everything else, no other mods or anything. The ota will install fine and youll see that it goes through your custom recovery when updating. After the update you will lose root and your custom recovery however unless you recovery someone holds onto it.
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So bascially no matter what i have on the phone update.zip will go through fine and put on the phone what it contains and it's up to me to put everything back? Also I've heard mixed opinions if I will lose root and CWM, mostly people say it will give me an option to keep it after applyng the update.
heat361 said:
You don't have to wipe.It does not matter if you wipe or not, you will still lose your base band, you'll just have to flash the old baseband again. As for the kernel if the ota comes with a new kernel your old stock kernel will be replaced with the new one in the ota.
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heat361 said:
You don't have to wipe.It does not matter if you wipe or not, you will still lose your base band, you'll just have to flash the old baseband again. As for the kernel if the ota comes with a new kernel your old stock kernel will be replaced with the new one in the ota.
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Everything about this post is incorrect.
I don't mean to be a jerk but I've seen you post a lot of false info lately. I know you'd like to help, but it only confuses people when they see contradictory info.
Helderg1984 said:
So bascially no matter what i have on the phone update.zip will go through fine and put on the phone what it contains and it's up to me to put everything back? Also I've heard mixed opinions if I will lose root and CWM, mostly people say it will give me an option to keep it after applying the update.
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Just read the thread I linked earlier. It has answers to your questions.
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El Daddy said:
Everything about this post is incorrect.
I don't mean to be a jerk but I've seen you post a lot of false info lately. I know you'd like to help, but it only confuses people when they see contradictory info.
Just read the thread I l
Can you tell me what's wrong with what I said? I was assuming he was on stock rooted with a custom recovery. Is it not true that if you get an ota update and it contains a new baseband and new stock kernel it will overwrite the last last stock kernel and baseband.
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heat361 said:
El Daddy said:
Everything about this post is incorrect.
I don't mean to be a jerk but I've seen you post a lot of false info lately. I know you'd like to help, but it only confuses people when they see contradictory info.
Just read the thread I l
Can you tell me what's wrong with what I said? I was assuming he was on stock rooted with a custom recovery. Is it not true that if you get an ota update and it contains a new baseband and new stock kernel it will overwrite the last last stock kernel and baseband.
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No it doesn't overwrite anything. It just fails.
OTA's contain patches. Not complete files. If the original file isn't there it will abort.
I can see how this can be confusing because it is different from custom roms.
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But thats only if he has the lte fix right. So if he just flashes a stock kernel without that patch, the ota could work.
For example the stock boot.img

I'm rooted with cwm, custom kernel and old baseband, stock rom. I mean I can very easily revert my kernel back to stock and flash the newest baseband.
The only thing is there's a bunch of stuff I might want to do more but don't want to make it hard to update since it's important to me.
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heat361 said:
But thats only if he has the lte fix right. So if he just flashes a stock kernel without that patch, the ota could work.
For example the stock boot.img
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Yep. The phone needs to be 100% stock with the exception of the recovery to complete the OTA. If the files,kernel,radio, etc. are replaced to the original state you'd be good to go.
PS. Sorry if I came off as a jerk this morning. I had a case of the Mondays.
Helderg1984 said:
I'm rooted with cwm, custom kernel and old baseband, stock rom. I mean I can very easily revert my kernel back to stock and flash the newest baseband.
The only thing is there's a bunch of stuff I might want to do more but don't want to make it hard to update since it's important to me.
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Just as I wrote above, You can do as many modifications as you want, just make sure you bring the phone back to stock before you flash the OTA.zip, otherwise it will fail.
When the new OTA comes out I will update my OTA Help-Desk thread with all the new requirements.

Helderg1984 said:
So bascially no matter what i have on the phone update.zip will go through fine and put on the phone what it contains and it's up to me to put everything back? Also I've heard mixed opinions if I will lose root and CWM, mostly people say it will give me an option to keep it after applyng the update.
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Just watch this its eazy as 1 2 3!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky5miA8ilr0

Downgrade from 4.3 to 4.2.2??

Hellow guys i make a full wipe and make the ota update to 4.3 but''' i notice some bug when i in the recent and swipe to delete the app some wire black rectagular in top! And lags openinapps!!! I just want to now if i can downgrade to 4.3 to 4.2.2? I going to wait to cyanogen mod team to make a 4.3 rom. And if i yes can doit how??
Im rooted and have twrp recovery.
Thanks guys!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
Flash the stock images through fastboot.

I can see this too!
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thanks guys i download de n_cry and work perfect is a awesome tool to have in are computers.

If you are going to flash custom ROM; use a toolkit to Root it; flash custom recovery of your choice. Then copy custom ROM to ur phone; go to recovery and flash it. You don't need to downgrade your boot loader.
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badboy47 said:
If you are going to flash custom ROM; use a toolkit to Root it; flash custom recovery of your choice. Then copy custom ROM to ur phone; go to recovery and flash it. You don't need to downgrade your boot loader.
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Does this mean we can downgrade from 4.3 to 4.2.2 custom ROM?
I'm not having a good time with 4.3 stock rooted and custom kernel and thinking about going back to CM 10.1.2. All I need to do is flashing the custom ROM in recovery?

naeco said:
Does this mean we can downgrade from 4.3 to 4.2.2 custom ROM?
I'm not having a good time with 4.3 stock rooted and custom kernel and thinking about going back to CM 10.1.2. All I need to do is flashing the custom ROM in recovery?
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Yes you will be fine. Before PA 4.3 rom was released, I was using Latest 4.3 bootloader with 4.2.2. I am going to revert to 4.2 as well. I noticed 4.3 battery is really good but sometime touchscreen doesnt response / volume buttons doesnt work.

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Yes you will be fine. Before PA 4.3 rom was released, I was using Latest 4.3 bootloader with 4.2.2. I am going to revert to 4.2 as well. I noticed 4.3 battery is really good but sometime touchscreen doesnt response / volume buttons doesnt work.
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for unresponsive screen go to 'developer options', 'hardware accelerated options', 'disable HW overlays' and select 'always use gpu for screen compositing'. Works for me but setting doesn't seem to stick on reboots.

^^ oh okay thanks but I am already back to the good old 4.2.2 .
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Thank you dude..it works ,, i'm really stress with this unresponsive screen

Just to make sure!
badboy47 said:
If you are going to flash custom ROM; use a toolkit to Root it; flash custom recovery of your choice. Then copy custom ROM to ur phone; go to recovery and flash it. You don't need to downgrade your boot loader.
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Hi I´m quite new to this and did recently flash my second custom rom. I went from CM10.1 (4.2.2) back to stock image, and flashed
[AOSP]Official 4.3- S4 Google Edition- Finaly v2.0 - Feel the Experience of Nexus. The phone is running hot and I´m kind of dissapointed with the
lack of tweaks in Google Edition. So I´d like to go back to CM
So if I understand you right I can from 4.3 flash my stock image (from TWRP) which was on 4.2.2? Without worrying.

Did you make a nandroid backup when you were stock? That should be the easiest way to get back to stock. If you didn't then you will need to use odin to flash back to stock.
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Lost root after flashing to 4.4 from stock rom

Hey people it seems as though I lost root or at least "don't have proper root access" after flashing CMB rc3 ROM. I somehow updated SU binary but still am having issues gaining full root. If anybody has any information on how to help me it will be greatly appreciated.. I am also willing to go back to stock ROM and see if that works somehow but I forgot to backup stock ROM(I know I'm a moron) lol. I had the 4.2.2 OTA D80110g version prior to flashing to CMB.. Would greatly appreciate any help.
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DurbanPoison24 said:
Hey people it seems as though I lost root or at least "don't have proper root access" after flashing CMB rc3 ROM. I somehow updated SU binary but still am having issues gaining full root. If anybody has any information on how to help me it will be greatly appreciated.. I am also willing to go back to stock ROM and see if that works somehow but I forgot to backup stock ROM(I know I'm a moron) lol. I had the 4.2.2 OTA D80110g version prior to flashing to CMB.. Would greatly appreciate any help.
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Download this and flash it in recovery http://download.chainfire.eu/376/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.89.zip?retrieve_file=1
It is the supersu.zip, it will reroot your device :good:

Originally Posted by DurbanPoison24
Hey people it seems as though I lost root or at least "don't have proper root access" after flashing CMB rc3 ROM. I somehow updated SU binary but still am having issues gaining full root. If anybody has any information on how to help me it will be greatly appreciated.. I am also willing to go back to stock ROM and see if that works somehow but I forgot to backup stock ROM(I know I'm a moron) lol. I had the 4.2.2 OTA D80110g version prior to flashing to CMB.. Would greatly appreciate any help.
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Download this and flash it in recovery http://download.chainfire.eu/376/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.89.zip?retrieve_file=1
It is the supersu.zip, it will reroot your device :good:
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Hey thanks for your assistance but I wound up just downloading the rooted stock OTA ROM and re-flashing it and I'm fully rooted again. But do you by any chance know how to fix the issue of losing root after upgrading to 4.4? Does what you told me to do fix that completely and keeps me fully rooted on 4.4? Sorry I'm pretty new to this stuff.
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DurbanPoison24 said:
Hey thanks for your assistance but I wound up just downloading the rooted stock OTA ROM and re-flashing it and I'm fully rooted again. But do you by any chance know how to fix the issue of losing root after upgrading to 4.4? Does what you told me to do fix that completely and keeps me fully rooted on 4.4? Sorry I'm pretty new to this stuff.
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if you flash to 4.4 aosp rom, you have to go into developer settings and set root as apps and adb. this will give you root access.

Assuming that you know what you have done, this is the very first case, not only in this G2 subforum but entire XDA site, that I've heard installing custom ROM and lost root.

The first reply hit the nail on the head, some ROM don't have root for example Omni ROM in originaaal android development....you flash supersu zip after ROM and gapps....looks like you have everything going good, good luck man!

votinh said:
Assuming that you know what you have done, this is the very first case, not only in this G2 subforum but entire XDA site, that I've heard installing custom ROM and lost root.
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I may have misinterpreted. I wound up re-flashing stock ROM. Too nervous to go back to 4.4 because I don't fully understand what happned and I'll be damned if mess my phone up when I just got it yesterday. Lol, really want 4.4 though. Oh well I guess
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DurbanPoison24 said:
I may have misinterpreted. I wound up re-flashing stock ROM. Too nervous to go back to 4.4 because I don't fully understand what happned and I'll be damned if mess my phone up when I just got it yesterday. Lol, really want 4.4 though. Oh well I guess
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Hey man if you want 4.4 is simple just download the supersu.zip and when your in recovery do the correct wipe then flash ROM and gapps then supersu zip then reboot!
Most Roms have root already like Paranoid android, Mahdi, aokp......Roms like the one you used and omni you need to flash the supersu zip afterward that's it

Yeah check developer settings for root or flash super su zip, also slimkat and others have working root.
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it works
DurbanPoison24 said:
Hey thanks for your assistance but I wound up just downloading the rooted stock OTA ROM and re-flashing it and I'm fully rooted again. But do you by any chance know how to fix the issue of losing root after upgrading to 4.4? Does what you told me to do fix that completely and keeps me fully rooted on 4.4? Sorry I'm pretty new to this stuff.
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I know this is a little old but im sure there are ppl with this problems, i am a newbie here and just trying to share, i flashed the suggested file and i got my root back, XDA its a really good site to learn and solve our problems, Thank you XDA!