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4.2 leak for Note 8.0 but not for our Note 2

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/07/15/android-4-2-2-for-the-galaxy-note-8-0-wi-fi-leaked/
Samsung is really dragging this out for the Note 2.

yeay new thread
via Note 2

This time samsung had really made it worse where all other brand lke htc.sony has been rolling out official 4.2.2 update but for us its a wait maybe thy need this year to solve probs of touchwiz n other stuff.
Its already 15th july n still no news of updates.
I wish all luck to samsung for their future sales of s4 and note3 till thy fill their pocket n r happy to roll out updates

update thi cung the thoi, co gi dau ma ham, nhin update cho s3 ma xem, chan

It´s posible to port it to our note ii?

We will get directly and all s4 features that may support note 2
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shhbz said:
This time samsung had really made it worse where all other brand lke htc.sony has been rolling out official 4.2.2 update but for us its a wait maybe thy need this year to solve probs of touchwiz n other stuff.
Its already 15th july n still no news of updates.
I wish all luck to samsung for their future sales of s4 and note3 till thy fill their pocket n r happy to roll out updates
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HTC has only pushed 4.2 to the One, a 2013 flagship, and the S4, Samsung's latest 2013 flagship also has 4.2 so they actually aren't behind in any way. AFAIK the same goes for Sony.

Update postponed till xmas
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/4859...y-s3-note-2-official-android.htm#.UePPbqO3PFo

iPTPenguin said:
HTC has only pushed 4.2 to the One, a 2013 flagship, and the S4, Samsung's latest 2013 flagship also has 4.2 so they actually aren't behind in any way. AFAIK the same goes for Sony.
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Agreed. HTC's 2013 "flagship" and savior device shipped with 4.1 and is still in the process of getting 4.2. There are more Google-caused issues in 4.2 than there are in 4.1 so it’s great it has new features everyone wants but the same people *****ing about not having it will be the first to ***** if battery life is less, BT is borked, or if anything is inferior to 4.1. And if Samsung released a rushed and buggy N2 4.2 update those same people would be up in arms. 4.1>4.2 isn't a major update and 4.1 isn't broken.
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Did you read the article? It looks like it was written by a kid.
The upcoming Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean for both Samsung Galaxy S3 & Galaxy Note 2 is reported to be delayed again and scheduled not earlier than November 2013. Factors such as the Galaxy S4 sales, Android 4.3 Jelly Bean and K Build release date affected the update release date.​There's no source for the information other than "is reported." And does anyone here think Samsung, a company with a $12B R&D budget, is so single threaded or low on resources that something like soft SGS4 sales or doing multiple updates across different devices at the same time is going to tax them? The SGS4's been on the market for four months and punishing the SGS3 or N2 by stalling their update to 4.2 isn't going to help or hurt its sales. Outside XDA people don’t even know what version of Android their running. At most, they know they know “Jelly Bean” is the latest and 4.1 is JB. HTC didn't think launching their new flagship on 4.1 was going to hurt sales and it took them four months to bring it up to 4.2. And since Samsung never officially said when existing 4.1 devices would be brought up to 4.2 there isn't a delay. Something that's never been announced can't be delayed.
And as for the Note 8 getting it first, that makes total sense. It uses a phone vs. tablet UI similar to the N2 but sells in probably 1/10 the volume. If something's broken or needs trouble shooting in customer’s hands it's better to test it on a smaller audience. 4.2 hasn't been used with S Pen, S Note, or an inductive display before and doing so adds a lot of extra code. I'm fine with Note 8 users being the Guinea pigs because my N2 runs perfectly on 4.1.
But do continue to rant and run this thread up to dozens of pages like the other update threads. I'm sure it'll make the update come faster.

Owners of S3 and Note 2 can surely expect the Android 4.2.2 update, but it requires some patience as the maker struggles with Galaxy S4 sales and new Android versions.
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The maker "struggles"??? What, they only make 10 billions instead of 12?? What about all the customers that they are pissing off? Do they think this will help future sales? I for one will start looking where the grass is greener.

Kremata said:
I for one will start looking where the grass is greener.
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And where would that be? HTC? One S owners would disagree the grass is greener. Motorola? Those that bought phones in late-2011 with the promise (in writing) from Motorola they'd receive it and then didn't don't think their grass is any greener. LG and Sony perhaps? There track records are worse than Samsung's.
Want instant updates? Buy a Nexus. Even the GE versions of the One and SGS4 are dependent on HTC and Samsung so won't get updates as fast as a Nexus. Buying a phone with an overlay (which everyone here did) means you wait for updates. If people didn't know that upfront it's their own fault.
And again, whining amongst yourselves here in three different threads on the same subject isn't going to make an update come any faster.

BarryH_GEG said:
And where would that be? HTC? One S owners would disagree the grass is greener. Motorola? Those that bought phones in late-2011 with the promise (in writing) from Motorola they'd receive it and then didn't don't think their grass is any greener. LG and Sony perhaps? There track records are worse than Samsung's.
Want instant updates? Buy a Nexus. Even the GE versions of the One and SGS4 are dependent on HTC and Samsung so won't get updates as fast as a Nexus. Buying a phone with an overlay (which everyone here did) means you wait for updates. If people didn't know that upfront it's their own fault.
And again, whining amongst yourselves here in three different threads on the same subject isn't going to make an update come any faster.
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All they're doing is generating more traffic to sammobile because they ALWAYS get rumors right
(That's sarcasm for anyone not getting it.)

BarryH_GEG said:
And where would that be? HTC? One S owners would disagree the grass is greener. Motorola? Those that bought phones in late-2011 with the promise (in writing) from Motorola they'd receive it and then didn't don't think their grass is any greener. LG and Sony perhaps? There track records are worse than Samsung's.
Want instant updates? Buy a Nexus. Even the GE versions of the One and SGS4 are dependent on HTC and Samsung so won't get updates as fast as a Nexus. Buying a phone with an overlay (which everyone here did) means you wait for updates. If people didn't know that upfront it's their own fault.
And again, whining amongst yourselves here in three different threads on the same subject isn't going to make an update come any faster.
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Ha ha you're right. I was spoiled when I had my S3 six months ago. They were updating almost every weeks then. Now I have to actually WAIT for an update. I feel like an iphone user.:crying:

Kremata said:
Ha ha you're right. I was spoiled when I had my S3 six months ago. They were updating almost every weeks then. Now I have to actually WAIT for an update. I feel like an iphone user.:crying:
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Hey, everyone here has a right to their opinion and feelings about updates. I mostly stay out of update threads. I pop up occasionally becaue people new to XDA or trying to see if a certain phone's worthwhile could get the wrong impression when people go off on Samsung about updates. In my opinion they're no worse than others and over this past year seem to be pushing more general updates out then they have been. But in truth they all pretty much suck and updates clearly aren't a priority. I'd expect starting with the X-Phone, now that Motorla's owned by Google, Motorola should probably lead the pack. We'll have to wait and see.

Maybe someone could explain to me if Samsung sucks so much w/ updates, which mythical company we're talking about that has started rolling out 4.2.2 for it's 2012 flagship? FFS One's just getting 4.2.2 and that came out with S4.
And once 4.2.2 is out more whining threads will be out re: battery life and downgrading to 4.1.2. I'm good with 4.1.2 custom ROMs, what exactly are people missing out on 4.2.2? Lockscreen widgets? Really? Is it worth all this persistent whining?

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And once 4.2.2 is out more whining threads will be out re: battery life and downgrading to 4.1.2. I'm good with 4.1.2 custom ROMs, what exactly are people missing out on 4.2.2? Lockscreen widgets? Really? Is it worth all this persistent whining?
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Shhh. They're all mostly 16yo and this is a big thing for them. Don't try to understand why.
Back when my S3 was on ICS and we were waiting for JB, I asked all the complainers what feature they were missing. One bloke said he was losing business because he didn't have Google Now! (He was serious too)
In a world where flashing a new ROM every second day makes sense, you HAVE to have the latest version of stuff. You just do. The End.

Oh yeah another bastard thread about people moaning because we don't have 4.2.2
Yes im going to shout
WHY ON EARTH WOULD THEY DROP THIS UPDATE BEFORE THE NOTE 3 IS RELEASED AND NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE NOTE 3 WILL BE RUNNING.
Get it in your heads shut up and wait and stop clogging this forum up with crap every time a phone gets an update. Ffs
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HTC also has pushed 4.2 to butterfly /DNA

tonylee000 said:
Update postponed till xmas
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/4859...y-s3-note-2-official-android.htm#.UePPbqO3PFo
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bad news indeed, but i'm good on 4.1.2

When (not if) we get the 4.2 update, I suggest eager fans divide it in half to get two updates --> 4.2 / 2 = 2.1
With those two 2.1 updates, use one right away, then save the second for when u feel the need for additional updates later.
Hit thanks if this sounds like a viable option

Google Edition to get 4.3 OTA Update

So saw this on a tech news site I frequent, kind of jealous of them since I like Sense and will be sticking to ROMs based of that. But the 4.3 update will roll out for the Google Edition phones. At the very bottom of the article.
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Galaxy S4 and HTC One Google Play Editions will get the update soon, but no precise timeline was specified.
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The part with "no precise timeline was specified" makes me think of it like this:
Galaxy S4 and HTC One Google Play Editions will get the update eventually, since no precise timeline was specified.
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Try4Ce said:
The part with "no precise timeline was specified" makes me think of it like this:
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Chances are one of the AOSP rom's will have 4.3 out before HTC release their's for the GE edition.

daleski75 said:
Chances are one of the AOSP rom's will have 4.3 out before HTC release their's for the GE edition.
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I'd be willing to put my money on CyanogenMod or AOKP having 4.3 out first. However, the whole point of the Google Editions was to get an almost Nexus experience. If HTC takes more than two or three weeks, it's a complete fail.
I'm hoping to see it within a week, but I'm definitely not counting on it.

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Chances are one of the AOSP rom's will have 4.3 out before HTC release their's for the GE edition.
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AOSP will be 100% faster than HTC / Google to update the GE for sure.
I am really curious about the 4.3 AOSP update, maybe some 4.2.2 AOSP bugs will get ironed out automatically since it has a bunch of driver updates and a new bluetooth stack (read -> BT incall issues).

blackroseMD1 said:
I'd be willing to put my money on CyanogenMod or AOKP having 4.3 out first. However, the whole point of the Google Editions was to get an almost Nexus experience. If HTC takes more than two or three weeks, it's a complete fail.
I'm hoping to see it within a week, but I'm definitely not counting on it.
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Totally agree anything but a very fast update from both Samsung or HTC will only further piss off customers who brought it thinking they would get more timely updates.
Nice and easy if you want the fastest updates get a nexus or a custom rom nothing else comes close imho.
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AOSP will be 100% faster than HTC / Google to update the GE for sure.
I am really curious about the 4.3 AOSP update, maybe some 4.2.2 AOSP bugs will get ironed out automatically since it has a bunch of driver updates and a new bluetooth stack (read -> BT incall issues).
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If it fixes all the little bugs from 4.2.2 with bluetooth (my car does not like my One whatsoever!) then I for one will be very happy with that.

Support the cm compiler cm10.2 (Android 4.3)

Yes, but the AOSP ROMs are going to be very buggy and I cannot stand a ROM that is not perfect.
I need my phone to be reliable. Not messed up with bugs.
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The Project said:
Yes, but the AOSP ROMs are going to be very buggy and I cannot stand a ROM that is not perfect.
I need my phone to be reliable. Not messed up with bugs.
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This. Even when we get 4.3 AOSP ROMs they won't be solid until HTC releases the 4.3 kernel source, correct?

yea but its clearly not receiving the nexus treatment

regP said:
This. Even when we get 4.3 AOSP ROMs they won't be solid until HTC releases the 4.3 kernel source, correct?
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Exactly. I want a stock 4.3 kernel that "just works" and I don't want to worry about problems. I don't mind waiting a few weeks for it. 4.3 isn't even a big update.

I have a Google Edition and paying $640 for a phone, you'd expect them to at least have some kind of announcement of when that will be rolled out. If it will take weeks, I can deal with that, but not knowing is not making me happy either.
I knew going into it that it wouldn't be instant, but I also didn't expect it to be a non-existent date like any other update.
I'm strictly speaking OTA btw, and not custom roms.

Argenist said:
I have a Google Edition and paying $640 for a phone, you'd expect them to at least have some kind of announcement of when that will be rolled out. If it will take weeks, I can deal with that, but not knowing is not making me happy either.
I knew going into it that it wouldn't be instant, but I also didn't expect it to be a non-existent date like any other update.
I'm strictly speaking OTA btw, and not custom roms.
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If even 1 "stablish" 4.3 ROM is released before the official OTA you know by then that HTC has failed.

I'm sure we'll get it soon :good: I emailed HTC and they gave a generic response (as expected). But we'll just have to hold tight.
Dear Brandon,
Thank you for contacting HTC Tech support.
I am really happy to hear you belong to the HTC Family.
We know that the 4.3 software version was already released and we enthusiatclly can say that Google editions will be getting this update first than other devices.
Here at HTC we no longer announce dates in which the update will hit the devices, but we invite you to stay tuned for upcoming news. You can access www.htc.com or follow us through Facebook and Twitter.
Brandon, once again let me congratulate you for your HTC One Google edition. I wish you a wonderful day!
Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us through http://www.htc.com/us/contact/email/or call us at +1-866-449-8358 from 8AM to 1AM ET, 7 days a week.
Let me know if I have successfully answered your question, please click here to complete this.
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(HTC needs to invest in some spellcheck software)

killman2659 said:
If even 1 "stablish" 4.3 ROM is released before the official OTA you know by then that HTC has failed.
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bbedward said:
I'm sure we'll get it soon :good: I emailed HTC and they gave a generic response (as expected). But we'll just have to hold tight.
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At least they say that GE Ones will get 4.3 before Sense Ones. I assume it's less work for them given how similar the GE ROM is to the Nexus ROMs vs all the extra crap they have to update with Sense.
The question is how much HTC will prioritize the GE phones, given that it must be a small percentage of the Ones they sold (little do they know that quite a few of the "Sense" phones people bought have been converted to "GE" phones ).

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At least they say that GE Ones will get 4.3 before Sense Ones. I assume it's less work for them given how similar the GE ROM is to the Nexus ROMs vs all the extra crap they have to update with Sense.
The question is how much HTC will prioritize the GE phones, given that it must be a small percentage of the Ones they sold (little do they know that quite a few of the "Sense" phones people bought have been converted to "GE" phones ).
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If they are a serious company ... They check this site...they know

a box of kittens said:
If they are a serious company ... They check this site...they know
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Yeah, I was mostly kidding. My point is more that, while they probably know, they will act like they don't know (refuse to acknowledge or support converted phones).
Especially because they will have to make assumptions about the number of phones out there running Sense vs GE and will likely do that purely based on sales numbers (which don't take into account any converted phones).

The HTC One, will for sure be behind on updates considering the Nexus is the Google line. Nexus first then S4 then the One. Money market system.. we all know Apple and Samsung lead that pack.. HTC is behind Sammy. That's how I will see it coming.
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That's completely ridiculous. Even without having to adapt Sense or go through a kafka-esque certification process like Verizon certification, HTC still needs to perform integration testing before issuing the update. Any joe blow can hack together an untested build and put it out on the net.

Here Kitty Kitty!! #KitKat

https://plus.google.com/s/%23KitKat
http://www.android.com/kitkat/

this is kind of ridiculous. 4.3 just came out.
also, kit kat is a better name than key lime pie imo. i know they didn't really say much about this or its release date, but google, give us some time to bask in 4.3 goodness without having to say "i'm only going to have the newest version of android for 5 minutes"
one more thing: manufacturers, since you're lazy a-holes, skip any 4.3 updates unless you are actually competent enough to test and push the update. this will probably come out this fall (so in like a month or two)
this is android 4.4, not 5.0 like i thought. i am interested to see what this is going to be.
as most other android releases go, it probably will run on our fascinate. again, it's a wait and see thing.
THE LAST THING: This would be just fine if Google actually had control of the OS like Apple does. inb4 apple vs google, but you gotta admit, apple pushes out updates and all the devices that are listed to receive the updates get them. day one, no questions asked. with android, you don't get that unless you have a GSM Nexus phone, or a Nexus tablet.

Hope this will have some significant improvements to the fragmentation.
So what do you guys think Kitkat will bring to our phones? Its definitely not something huge because its not 5.0
Any thoughts? Oh and yes. Apple rules when it comes to updates. Thats one thing I'll like to se improved over the next few versions. And Samsung etc should join forces not wait months or years for updates! !!

ChampMEon said:
Hope this will have some significant improvements to the fragmentation.
So what do you guys think Kitkat will bring to our phones? Its definitely not something huge because its not 5.0
Any thoughts? Oh and yes. Apple rules when it comes to updates. Thats one thing I'll like to se improved over the next few versions. And Samsung etc should join forces not wait months or years for updates! !!
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vzw (best carrier ever for updates lol no and samsung didn't give us an official Gingerbread build until... December 1, 2011. Do you know what else was out on that date? it's a secret. guess. ice cream sandwich
yep. ics was already out and they gave us gingerbread. and what did samsung give all galaxy S owners for not giving them ICS. excuses! "the galaxy S doesn't have enough ram guize" my left foot. my fascinate runs jelly bean like a dream.
samsung is too full of themselves to join in on google goodness. look at the s3. that thing can totally run 4.2 or 4.3, but samsung doesn't give you those builds because they want money, not a long-lasting phone. that's the way of business. the sad way of business.

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this is kind of ridiculous. 4.3 just came out.
also, kit kat is a better name than key lime pie imo. i know they didn't really say much about this or its release date, but google, give us some time to bask in 4.3 goodness without having to say "i'm only going to have the newest version of android for 5 minutes"
one more thing: manufacturers, since you're lazy a-holes, skip any 4.3 updates unless you are actually competent enough to test and push the update. this will probably come out this fall (so in like a month or two)
this is android 4.4, not 5.0 like i thought. i am interested to see what this is going to be.
as most other android releases go, it probably will run on our fascinate. again, it's a wait and see thing.
THE LAST THING: This would be just fine if Google actually had control of the OS like Apple does. inb4 apple vs google, but you gotta admit, apple pushes out updates and all the devices that are listed to receive the updates get them. day one, no questions asked. with android, you don't get that unless you have a GSM Nexus phone, or a Nexus tablet.
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Yeah well never blame Devs from google. It's the carrier and device brand. I understand what you mean, but there are far too many devices to optimize for unlike apple.
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KitKat for Fassy ! Itz heree ! :laugh:
*Check it out - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521427 :good:

ObeyTheNoob said:
KitKat for Fassy ! Itz heree ! :laugh:
*Check it out - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521427 :good:
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it's not entirely functional yet, but it's here and it does run moderately well

I tested that rom yesterday. It's quite nice- most everything that I tried worked, excepting only data. Even the google experience launcher was there! Once I get 10 posts I can try to post logcats.

Obeisance01 said:
I tested that rom yesterday. It's quite nice- most everything that I tried worked, excepting only data. Even the google experience launcher was there! Once I get 10 posts I can try to post logcats.
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Indeed ! Everything ran soo smooth I hope the data issue gets fixed soon .
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Motorola software updates

I'm still thinking about getting this phone and wondering how fast Motorola will be with their updates. Being that they are owned by Google, it's kind of baffling to me that it ships with 4.2 instead of 4.3 right about of the box.
And with 4.4 on the horizon, I'm not expecting it to be updated like a Nexus device but hoping they won't drag ass and take forever and a day. This would be my first Motorola device and I've heard about them being terrible with updates in the past but that was before Google bought them out.

Unless someone here can tell the future....
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Someone with an inside source said that their timetable for releases is 2 months after a new version is released.
Part of the requirements for the purchase of Moto was that they couldn't receive any special treatment when it came to code release from Google. Which means that they don't get the source code for new versions before any other vendor unless they have been chosen to build a nexus device. I that case they can only work on it in connection with the Google Android team.
The two month timetable isn't assume h that has been officially confirmed, so it may not be completely accurate.
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I've read a few articles which mentioned that although Motorola is now owned by Google, they are in fact keeping a "firewall" between the two companies. This could explain why the Moto X was released with 4.2 instead of 4.3.
Also, based on what I've seen in recent trends, carriers will be releasing Android OS updates over the air as opposed the Motorola (at least here in the States). Some approach OS updates better than others. Verizon is known to take their time releasing updates to phones because of the extensive testing they do with an upcoming update for a particular device. Take for instance the Droid DNA, a device released close to the end of last year which is only now getting the update to 4.2 from 4.1. I sincerely hope the Moto X does not see such neglect when it comes to future updates but I also wouldn't be surprised.

Over the years I have learned one thing. If it's not a nexus, expect the absolute worst case scenario for ROM updates.

with the ability to flash roms coming soon this may not matter
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scorpion667 said:
Over the years I have learned one thing. If it's not a nexus, expect the absolute worst case scenario for ROM updates.
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I'd like to believe that Moto offers better support than Samsung and HTC. The 4.3 update is still in the works but hard to put an eta on it as they probably still need time to make sure the moto apps and hardware is optimized to work properly. Other than improved performance and stability, I'm not missing anything by using 4.2.2 for now.

One good thing this phone has going for it is it's pretty much stock Android. No Touchwiz, Sense or any other overlay like Motoblur. This means it should be easier and faster to update since they just have to get the few things working on the next version. I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola skipped 4.3 and went straight to 4.4 since it's close to being released.

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One good thing this phone has going for it is it's pretty much stock Android. No Touchwiz, Sense or any other overlay like Motoblur. This means it should be easier and faster to update since they just have to get the few things working on the next version. I wouldn't be surprised if Motorola skipped 4.3 and went straight to 4.4 since it's close to being released.
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The problem isn't necessarily the skins though; it's the US carriers.

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The problem isn't necessarily the skins though; it's the US carriers.
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This. If it's going to take moto two months, expect longer because it will need to be blessed by the carriers before OTA updates are pushed out.

I wonder where the T Mobile X fits in then... Will it be updated straight from Moto? If not that might be a big problem because T Mobile obviously doesn't even support the phone.

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You're right. I actually had a big long post about how once Motorola gets the code, implements their features, at&t still has to test it and approve. Hopefully, since it's basically stock android, it won't take as long because the skinning process doesn't have to happen.
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Motorola has a very mixed record so far with their updates. The OG Droid was actually quite good at getting updates in a timely manner and only trailed the Nexus by a few weeks. After Motorola switched to Blur though for all their devices they lagged behind by a few months and even though with Jelly Bean they removed most of the Blur apps in favor of stock, that was still nearly what 9 months after 4.1's source was released before the Razr, Bionic, Droid 4 all got it. In fact for a while there they were one of the slowest at releasing their updates.
Now the Moto X is a new beast though and different from what Motorola has done now so it's hard to say. All the previous devices were part of the "old motorola" and the X is the first device of the "new motorola". The X is almost pure stock so there is very little tweaking that will need to be done. They just need to add in support for their Camera App, Active Display and Touchless Controls, do any kernel updates/bug fixes and then test/resolve any new bugs that popped up in 4.3. Motorola has said that an update is in the works and will come out soon with many improvements for the Moto X. Is this 4.3 or just a newer 4.2.2 build? We don't know.
I'd like to imagine that we will see 4.3 released sometime between now and early October on all carriers considering Samsung announced they will begin to roll out 4.3 to the SGS4, SGS3 and Note2. If Motorola is the first to release a stable, solid build of 4.3 for their new X8 devices and continues to keep up with their updates in a quick and timely manner, it would do a lot to rebuild their name. Right now we just have to wait and see if Motorola is serious about getting better about releasing timely updates or not.

clankfu said:
I'm still thinking about getting this phone and wondering how fast Motorola will be with their updates. Being that they are owned by Google, it's kind of baffling to me that it ships with 4.2 instead of 4.3 right about of the box.
And with 4.4 on the horizon, I'm not expecting it to be updated like a Nexus device but hoping they won't drag ass and take forever and a day. This would be my first Motorola device and I've heard about them being terrible with updates in the past but that was before Google bought them out.
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I'm in contact with Punit Soni (Moto X product Manager). He's very active on Google+ and he addressed the update and OTA of 4.3 questions. He said when they officially released the device to distributors, 4.3 just got announced. So it was either delay the Moto X and piss off many pre-ordering customers, or continue with the primary plan and push through with 4.2.2.
He said the update is "Coming soon" as they always say, and he promises many fixes like Camera improvements, Picasa or Google Photos sync for Gallery, and OS 4.3 very soon.

"When will then be now? Soon!"

EDIT: wrong thread.

linuxgator said:
Part of the requirements for the purchase of Moto was that they couldn't receive any special treatment when it came to code release from Google. Which means that they don't get the source code for new versions before any other vendor unless they have been chosen to build a nexus device. I that case they can only work on it in connection with the Google Android team.
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Each OEM gets the source at the same time. Makes no difference. The only reason it takes so long is a mixture between putting loads of framework in. And wanting to get new hardware out.
Moto, working with next to stock android, will be much much faster. No they dont get special treatment per se. But time will be light speed compared to HTC and Samsung
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GR36 said:
But time should be light speed compared to HTC and Samsung
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FIFY

If it goes the way the Tmobile nexus 4 goes than it will be updated right away. My son has the nexus4 bought directly from Tmobile store & it receives updates along with those bought directly from Google. I know its still a nexus and the moto x isn't but from what I understand the Tmobile version of the x doesn't have any carrier installed stuff on it, so hopefully it will be treated as a device like the Google editions.
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T-Mobile 5.0 Update Rush

Hey guys are we really rushing lollipop on T-mobile. With all these US carriers talking about bugs in the latest version why would we even want it right now. 5.0 No 5.1 YES. I have a great running 5.0 rom running now but yes the battery isn't that great, yes it's gets hot, yes it takes longer to boot, yes my LTE is spotty at times, yes my WiFi isn't as strong at kit Kat. Am I alone on this one? Read the below article. The U.S. carriers isn't the only ones with the problem.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/4...es-continue-as-some-carrier-testing-fails.htm

memtenn said:
Hey guys are we really rushing lollipop on T-mobile. With all these US carriers talking about bugs in the latest version why would we even want it right now. 5.0 No 5.1 YES. I have a great running 5.0 rom running now but yes the battery isn't that great, yes it's gets hot, yes it takes longer to boot, yes my LTE is spotty at times, yes my WiFi isn't as strong at kit Kat. Am I alone on this one? Read the below article. The U.S. carriers isn't the only ones with the problem.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/4...es-continue-as-some-carrier-testing-fails.htm
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IBTL:highfive:

I like cheese.

for me, I'm in no rush. unless lollipop fixes this extremely laggy phone I can care less. this phone, as powerful as the specs say it is, is a slow, laggy, bad camera POS. I'm eligible for jump on 9/25 and it cannot come soon enough. I had a Moto X before this, and I was happy with it. the Note 4 is full of disappointment. I don't see how all of the early reviews were so positive for it, the moto x had embarrassing specs but performed perfect, the camera wasn't good but I preferred it over this one, at least it opened and focused quickly.
I still wouldnt call it a "rush" though when its the slowest to market.

Most of these articles make me like tmo even more. I can wait for greatness. I think sprint use to watch xda closely because some how after every update leak that had problems and xda devs fixed them sprint would release a newer update with those problems gone lol gotta love xda

racer83l said:
for me, I'm in no rush. unless lollipop fixes this extremely laggy phone I can care less. this phone, as powerful as the specs say it is, is a slow, laggy, bad camera POS. I'm eligible for jump on 9/25 and it cannot come soon enough. I had a Moto X before this, and I was happy with it. the Note 4 is full of disappointment. I don't see how all of the early reviews were so positive for it, the moto x had embarrassing specs but performed perfect, the camera wasn't good but I preferred it over this one, at least it opened and focused quickly.
I still wouldnt call it a "rush" though when its the slowest to market.
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Flash Dynamic Pop or Dynamic Kat and it'll change your mind about the phone.

I have been using the unmodified port of SM-N910W8 Lollipop firmware (http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...t-unmodified-port-sm-n910w8-lollipop-t3072920) for a while now and it has made my phone better. That said i rather wait for the tmo version without bugs instead of right now and render my phone unusable. Also there are many 5.0 roms already out which are infinite better than anything tmo can ever gives us .

racer83l said:
for me, I'm in no rush. unless lollipop fixes this extremely laggy phone I can care less. this phone, as powerful as the specs say it is, is a slow, laggy, bad camera POS. I'm eligible for jump on 9/25 and it cannot come soon enough. I had a Moto X before this, and I was happy with it. the Note 4 is full of disappointment. I don't see how all of the early reviews were so positive for it, the moto x had embarrassing specs but performed perfect, the camera wasn't good but I preferred it over this one, at least it opened and focused quickly.
I still wouldnt call it a "rush" though when its the slowest to market.
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Bad camera??? Laggy??? I dunno what phone you're using, but my Note 4 has an AWESOME camera and is faster/smoother than anything I've ever used before. Are you you running straight stock with no root, mods, etc?

You are not alone my friend. As much as I love them. .I finally flashed rapture again last night. Developers are limited as far as how great they can make touch wiz....Samsung as limited because Google dropped a messed up os to begin with its a shame really

mgbotoe said:
You are not alone my friend. As much as I love them. .I finally flashed rapture again last night. Developers are limited as far as how great they can make touch wiz....Samsung as limited because Google dropped a messed up os to begin with its a shame really
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I agree. Samsung should not push lollipop to anyphones unless google irons out all the bugs. Right now 5.0.1 or 5.0.2 is out for most. But why not wait for stable OS from google as nexus users will be the testers for us.
Also samsung needs to do lot of testing on stable OS from google because of TW skin

topgun303 said:
I agree. Samsung should not push lollipop to anyphones unless google irons out all the bugs. Right now 5.0.1 or 5.0.2 is out for most. But why not wait for stable OS from google as nexus users will be the testers for us.
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To be fair it's not like Apple and Microsoft put out perfect OS's right out of the box. Granted Apple is a different model but software is software, at some point the decision has to be made to release, bugs and all.

I have become so used to cm12 and now 12.1 and very happy that honestly dont see myself bothering with the official when ever its released

I like orange peanuts. ....oh and I'm loving the modified Canadian Lollipop port!

OTA
I spoke with my friend who works for TMO he told me that they had been testing show failed it has reported back to Samsung takes little longer. He thinks it will release out in late summer. I am disappointed. I wish I had kept note 3 (N900T)

holywhitebread said:
Flash Dynamic Pop or Dynamic Kat and it'll change your mind about the phone.
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Very true statement here... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :good::good::good:

Suzook1 said:
I have become so used to cm12 and now 12.1 and very happy that honestly dont see myself bothering with the official when ever its released
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Is Bluetooth working on it? 12.1 I mean also how's the battery. .last I tried it sucked bad

I agree with a lot of what was said here, but if you're on XDA, why not root and flash a custom ROM if you're unhappy with your phone? I've tried at least 4 ROMs for the Note 4 (and many more with the Note 3) and have found at least a couple are almost perfect and most have been far superior to stock in every way. And I'm just talking about normal performance; with root you also have the ability to add and subtract apps and features and theme your device and truly make it yours. With a custom ROM and all the options and performance root brings, we really won't need to update for years from the current OS. But if Samsung would lighten up TouchWiz, the updates would come faster.

mgbotoe said:
You are not alone my friend. As much as I love them. .I finally flashed rapture again last night. Developers are limited as far as how great they can make touch wiz....Samsung as limited because Google dropped a messed up os to begin with its a shame really
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G4???? Lmao
BAD ASS NOTE 4

So some people are not happy and wish to stay with their old phones or even want to sell the note because an incremental update is late. LOL, that's f**king absurd.

BACARDILIMON said:
G4???? Lmao
BAD ASS NOTE 4
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Haha u getting it?!?! That camera!