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Hi, so I understand the differences between the 9500 vs the 9505.
I'm buying another s4 off of contract, so I am looking for the best spec since I am paying full price for the phone.
If I am going to use the phone on the AT&T network (need a phone that utilizes AT&T LTE), (also spend time in Korea so international use would be nice), are these unlocked carrier-free 9505s any different than the AT&T i337?
Is the unlocked version (9505) run more bands than the i337?
TIA.
Just found my answer on Wiki, seems the LTE bands are different.
9505:
800, 850, GSM, 1800 MHz, IMT, IMT-E
vs
i337:
700 MHz (Band 17), AWS, IMT, IMT-E
edmchoi said:
Just found my answer on Wiki, seems the LTE bands are different.
9505:
800, 850, GSM, 1800 MHz, IMT, IMT-E
vs
i337:
700 MHz (Band 17), AWS, IMT, IMT-E
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The I9505 is also the only variant that has FM radio
So does this generally mean that the 9505 will not run on the AT&T LTE network? I'm also in the market for a full-price S4 ... that I'd like to use on AT&T while in the US but also have capability to swap SIM cards and use in Japan, South Korea, Spain and Norway. Thoughts?
KillaHurtz said:
The I9505 is also the only variant that has FM radio
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it does? my i9505 doesn't.
jerzyboy2421 said:
So does this generally mean that the 9505 will not run on the AT&T LTE network? I'm also in the market for a full-price S4 ... that I'd like to use on AT&T while in the US but also have capability to swap SIM cards and use in Japan, South Korea, Spain and Norway. Thoughts?
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the i9505 will work on 3G on AT&T, but not 4G. as for the other countries, look up their mobile frequencies and compare it to the i9505's. For example, here are AT&T's frequencies.
Hi guys! As the title says, which are the operators I could use in the US with an International GT-I9505?
Any chance of LTE being possible there?
Thanks!!:good:
EnricoIT said:
Hi guys! As the title says, which are the operators I could use in the US with an International GT-I9505?
Any chance of LTE being possible there?
Thanks!!:good:
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T-Mobile or AT&T (and their MVNOs). They're both GSM and you should be able to run only on 3g (1900 mhz on T-Mobile: if you're in a big city and even then, it might be a little sketchy since TMo's refarming and 850 mhz on AT&T: which should be in most places). Annoyingly enough, both carriers work on a different set of LTE frequencies to the most of the world (700/1700).
Hi, Does any know if its all vice versa?
NOTE3 AT&T and T-Mobile NOTE3 using it with a T-Mobile SIM, (vice versa) T-mobile & A&T NOTE3 using AT&T SIM?
(Both NOTE3 is unlocked & using in urban BIG city)
Will there be any difference speed LTE and speed 3G & 4G you receive?
Will the LTE signal not be as strong each other?
Will be any problem each other (vice versa)?
Do you think we can enable AWS on NOTE3 AT&T? (same like Note2 and S4 AT&T)
Which hardware Note3 AT&T or T-Mobile is better having multi-LTE or more compability network each other (freq band spectrum)?
I don't really know much about LTE signals between AT&T and T-Mobile, compatibility, etc. So, I was wondering if you can help me to decide which one are those? How long to get unlock code from the 1st day i purchased with full price NOTE3 AT&T and T-Mobile?
Please...please... help for answer & information. I'm very appreciate and thank you so much for explanation everything. :good::victory:
P.S. Sorry & apologize about my bad english
If S4 history repeats itself the ATT buyers will be stung with crappy locked bootloaders. Meanwhile the TMO device is pentaband and unlocked bootloader. Depending on battery life benchmarks the only sane decision is between TMO Note 3 and the international N3.
I posted a poll about carrier selection last week
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2443383
Regarding your question, I opted for the T-Mobile version. Location will determine network performance...
staryoshi said:
I posted a poll about carrier selection last week
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2443383
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Sorry for re-posting again, peace out
CrashTestDroid said:
If S4 history repeats itself the ATT buyers will be stung with crappy locked bootloaders. Meanwhile the TMO device is pentaband and unlocked bootloader. Depending on battery life benchmarks the only sane decision is between TMO Note 3 and the international N3.
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But am i right?, Note3 International may not be able to use in T-Mobile LTE, right? thanks
Not to hijack the thread but does anyone know which one would be compatible for Wind/Mobilcity (Aws Canadian Market)?
Note 3 from At&Tor T-Mobile... in the past I believe T-Mobile phones are compatible because of 1700 and 2100 frequencies... however due to T-Mobile refarming (I have limited knowledge about it) and new frequencies.... would an At&t note 3 be modified to work on aws
????
bongbongcong said:
But am i right?, Note3 International may not be able to use in T-Mobile LTE, right? thanks
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To my knowledge, the international Note 3 does not have LTE radios. It has an octacore instead of quad but thats the trade off.
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To my knowledge, the international Note 3 does not have LTE radios. It has an octacore instead of quad but thats the trade off.
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There are two models: one is the octa-core with no LTE. The other is Snapdragon 800 with LTE. However, both will only get HSPA+ on AT&T (anywhere) and HSPA+ on T-Mobile (in refarmed areas). The international LTE model won't get US LTE because we don't use the same LTE bands as they do in Europe.
In the US, if you're on a GSM network the best model to get is the T-Mobile model, even if you're on AT&T. It works 100% with AT&T and T-Mobile (refarmed areas or not) and has an unlocked bootloader.
Product F(RED) said:
There are two models: one is the octa-core with no LTE. The other is Snapdragon 800 with LTE. However, both will only get HSPA+ on AT&T (anywhere) and HSPA+ on T-Mobile (in refarmed areas). The international LTE model won't get US LTE because we don't use the same LTE bands as they do in Europe.
In the US, if you're on a GSM network the best model to get is the T-Mobile model, even if you're on AT&T. It works 100% with AT&T and T-Mobile (refarmed areas or not) and has an unlocked bootloader.
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I apologize to bring up an old thread, but I figured I'd ask it here as opposed to starting yet another thread.
Do you know if the Tmobile Note 3 is pentaband (i.e., like the Nexus 4/5)? I'm planning to use it outside of the US and just need to know if it can get 3G in European countries.
A poster above mentioned that the Tmobile Note 3 version is pentaband, but googling for the answer to this has yielded no solid results.
Thanks!
Here is the T-mo website:
http://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones_data_devices/android/samsung-galaxy-note-3
here is the frequencies:
Network
3G/4G/LTE Capable
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
3G/UMTS: Band I (UMTS 2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100/AWS), Band V (850)
LTE: Band 4, Band 17, Band 1(2100), Band 2(1900), 5(850), 7(2600)
PoisonWolf said:
I apologize to bring up an old thread, but I figured I'd ask it here as opposed to starting yet another thread.
Do you know if the Tmobile Note 3 is pentaband (i.e., like the Nexus 4/5)? I'm planning to use it outside of the US and just need to know if it can get 3G in European countries.
A poster above mentioned that the Tmobile Note 3 version is pentaband, but googling for the answer to this has yielded no solid results.
Thanks!
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Yes. 850/900/1800/1900 on EDGE, and 850/[900 isn't mentioned but I assume it's there]/1700/1900/2100 for HSPA+. It should work fine.
EDIT: Confirmed 900 MHz is there. Look at the last post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2536817
Europe uses 900 and 2100 MHz for HSPA+ mainly. Both are supported. The AT&T version would also work fine, but the T-Mobile version is the best one to get because of the unlocked bootloader and additional AWS support (1700 MHz), which T-Mobile uses in the US. To me it's worth paying a little more for the T-Mobile version.
Product F(RED) said:
Yes. 850/900/1800/1900 on EDGE, and 850/[900 isn't mentioned but I assume it's there]/1700/1900/2100 for HSPA+. It should work fine.
EDIT: Confirmed 900 MHz is there. Look at the last post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2536817
Europe uses 900 and 2100 MHz for HSPA+ mainly. Both are supported. The AT&T version would also work fine, but the T-Mobile version is the best one to get because of the unlocked bootloader and additional AWS support (1700 MHz), which T-Mobile uses in the US. To me it's worth paying a little more for the T-Mobile version.
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Thanks Fred, I knew I could count on you. Cheers mate. Calling T-Mobile is never useful for these types of things. Hopefully my question here can be picked up by google searches so other people can see your link.
PoisonWolf said:
Thanks Fred, I knew I could count on you. Cheers mate. Calling T-Mobile is never useful for these types of things. Hopefully my question here can be picked up by google searches so other people can see your link.
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Exactly what happened for me. It was the top xda result for me.
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Hello there!
I reside in the UAE and recently bought a Note 3 4G LTE SM-9005 (Snapdragon Variant).
I will be moving to Chicago, USA and wanted to know if I will be able to use the 4G. I see that T-Mobile supports 2100MHz, 1900MHz, 1700MHz and 850MHz. The international Note 3, the one which I have supports 800MHz, 850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 2100MHz and 2600MHz. Seeing that I support one band, will 4G work on T-Mobile? Also, will 3G work? And if so, will the dual 3G work where I get 2 streams of 21MBPS?
If not on T-Mobile, will any other carriers work?
Thanks in advanced, Zain.
PS. I have read other forms but seem to get two answers, some say it will work and some say it won't. Just wanted some clarification.
zainmobhani said:
Hello there!
I reside in the UAE and recently bought a Note 3 4G LTE SM-9005 (Snapdragon Variant).
I will be moving to Chicago, USA and wanted to know if I will be able to use the 4G. I see that T-Mobile supports 2100MHz, 1900MHz, 1700MHz and 850MHz. The international Note 3, the one which I have supports 800MHz, 850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 2100MHz and 2600MHz. Seeing that I support one band, will 4G work on T-Mobile? Also, will 3G work? And if so, will the dual 3G work where I get 2 streams of 21MBPS?
If not on T-Mobile, will any other carriers work?
Thanks in advanced, Zain.
PS. I have read other forms but seem to get two answers, some say it will work and some say it won't. Just wanted some clarification.
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I use my SM-N900W8 in Hong Kong and it is nearly, if not exactly alike as the SM-N900T. I can say that even in HK I get 4 - 5 bars of LTE, and worst case scenario I get 3 bars of 3G/H+
I also used an N9105 - Note II LTE, with the exact same bands as the SM-N9005 (the one you have), but the problem was that I couldn't get enough bars as my N900W8 did. The phone got really hot when it searched for reception (as it was usually at 2-3 bars), whilst at the same spot, I would get 4-5 on my N900W8. So to answer your question, yes, they should work, except your reception would be lower than an American banded phone.
zainmobhani said:
Hello there!
I reside in the UAE and recently bought a Note 3 4G LTE SM-9005 (Snapdragon Variant).
I will be moving to Chicago, USA and wanted to know if I will be able to use the 4G. I see that T-Mobile supports 2100MHz, 1900MHz, 1700MHz and 850MHz. The international Note 3, the one which I have supports 800MHz, 850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 2100MHz and 2600MHz. Seeing that I support one band, will 4G work on T-Mobile? Also, will 3G work? And if so, will the dual 3G work where I get 2 streams of 21MBPS?
If not on T-Mobile, will any other carriers work?
Thanks in advanced, Zain.
PS. I have read other forms but seem to get two answers, some say it will work and some say it won't. Just wanted some clarification.
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Snapdragon is not the International version, your title is confusing. International version is Exynos and has no US LTE.
Neo3D said:
Snapdragon is not the International version, your title is confusing. International version is Exynos and has no US LTE.
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Actually, international is N9005, Snapdragon.
The Exynos edition is only being sold in select areas. Most people here use Snapdragon as it is easier to get, but most N900s are found in India. Hong Kong would only sell international phones, unlocked, and they are all N9005.
Regardless. If you have the 9005, you have the Snapdragon, and it should come with LTE, but may not contain the right bands for the US as Neo said above.
zainmobhani said:
Hello there!
I reside in the UAE and recently bought a Note 3 4G LTE SM-9005 (Snapdragon Variant).
I will be moving to Chicago, USA and wanted to know if I will be able to use the 4G. I see that T-Mobile supports 2100MHz, 1900MHz, 1700MHz and 850MHz. The international Note 3, the one which I have supports 800MHz, 850MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz, 2100MHz and 2600MHz.
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Region doesn't matter in fact I got my device from France, but had Hong Kong firmware on it. Later to get KitKat I flashed Poland firmware.
as for the bands T mobile mainly uses 1700MHz so you won't get LTE doesn't matter if you change the APN, I tried. You will get HSPA+ which isn't horrible, its enough to watch HQ YouTube videos.
idk about ATT though when I looked it up I remembered it being able to, but now that I look at doesn't look like it can...
Hi all, I'm wondering if I may trouble you with a quick question.
I recently bought a Galaxy S5 (Galaxy S5 G900F) in the hopes to have it future proof as I move to Canada next year and would like to have a solid phone for about two - three years. I'm based in Ireland at the moment and wondering can the phone be used in Canada without issue?
I was looking at a phone company (Koodo) who offer great rates and once I inputted my IMEI it stated my phone wouldn't work on their network.
Surely the S5 would work on any network throughout the globe? Last year my Note 3 worked perfectly in America and it was an international edition also.
Is this a hardware issue (radios) or software (were a simple flash of a different rom could fix)?
Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
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Surely the S5 would work on any network throughout the globe?
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Okay, let me ask you this question. If the S5 should work around the world.. why does Samsung have a dozen S5 variants?
Figured it out yet? Ironically the hardware is capable of supporting all GSM and LTE bands world wide. But Samsung endeavors to sell their phones for higher prices in more affluent countries. And carriers don't want to make it easy for you to jump ship and sign your phone up to another network. So they have artificial restrictions in the firmware and other measures e.g. region locking, SIM locks, to limit what you can do. They have to allow enough compatibility that you could usually roam when traveling. But not complete compatibility or you might buy a cheaper S5 from another country. Or change carriers willy nilly.
Yup, great system.
And so it is for your phone. It will work most of the time in Canada. But it isn't 100% compatible and you may find that it can't operate on the necessary bands in fringe areas or for niche carriers.
Most of the bands are the same between the S5 900F (yours) and the S5 900W8 (Canada)
The differences, I believe are:
2G: same for both
3G: Most bands are the same. But you have B8(900) in place of Canadian band B4(1700 aka AWS)
4G: Most bands are the same. But you have B5(850), B20(800) instead of Canadian bands B4(1700 aka AWS), B17(700)
In the case of Fido, their site says:
Fido said:
Things to Know
Your device must be compatible with the Fido network, which uses GSM, UMTS, HSPA and HSPA+ at 850 MHz and 1900 MHz and LTE at 2100 MHz and 2600 MHz. If you are unsure of how to check the frequencies your device supports, try the manufacturer's official website and search for the specifications for your particular phone/smartphone model;
If your device is currently locked, it needs to be unlocked by the carrier you bought it from;
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It appears to me that your phone supports all of the Fido bands. And most, but not all of the bands on other Canadian carriers. I don't believe that your phone will work at all on niche carriers Wind or Mobilicity.
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fffft said:
Okay, let me ask you this question. If the S5 should work around the world.. why does Samsung have a dozen S5 variants?
Figured it out yet? Ironically the hardware is capable of supporting all GSM and LTE bands world wide. But Samsung endeavors to sell their phones for higher prices in more affluent countries. And carriers don't want to make it easy for you to jump ship and sign your phone up to another network. So they have artificial restrictions in the firmware and other measures e.g. region locking, SIM locks, to limit what you can do. They have to allow enough compatibility that you could usually roam when traveling. But not complete compatibility or you might buy a cheaper S5 from another country. Or change carriers willy nilly.
Yup, great system.
And so it is for your phone. It will work most of the time in Canada. But it isn't 100% compatible and you may find that it can't operate on the necessary bands in fringe areas or for niche carriers.
Most of the bands are the same between the S5 900F (yours) and the S5 900W8 (Canada)
The differences, I believe are:
2G: same for both
3G: Most bands are the same. But you have B8(900) in place of Canadian band B4(1700 aka AWS)
4G: Most bands are the same. But you have B5(850), B20(800) instead of Canadian bands B4(1700 aka AWS), B17(700)
In the case of Fido, their site says:
It appears to me that your phone supports all of the Fido bands. And most, but not all of the bands on other Canadian carriers. I don't believe that your phone will work at all on niche carriers Wind or Mobilicity.
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Thank you very much for your reply. I figured it would be something to do with the radio.. Will check the bands for the network Koodoo, if it falls in ok and I can find a firmware to flash which hopefully should do the trick. Hell I might even just sell before I go, make it easier.
Cheers
gbyrne2011 said:
Will check the bands for the network Koodoo
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Koodo is a secondary brand of Telus.
They use 3G 850 CLR/1900 PCS
And 4G /LTE 1700/2100 (and possibly 700 in the future)
You are missing their 1700 LTE band, sometimes referred to as AWS. So you will have to find out how extensively they use that band and whether it is a sole frequency in any areas.
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fffft said:
Koodo is a secondary brand of Telus.
They use 3G 850 CLR/1900 PCS
And 4G /LTE 1700/2100 (and possibly 700 in the future)
You are missing their 1700 LTE band, sometimes referred to as AWS. So you will have to find out how extensively they use that band and whether it is a sole frequency in any areas.
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Thanks very much for all your help fffft, it's much appreciated.