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well thsi kind of stinks out loud!

http://gizmodo.com/5921711/the-google-nexus-tablet-is-here-and-its-out-to-kill-the-kindle-fire
"$200 for the 8 GB model and $250 for 16 GB—that this thing is aiming squarely to extinguish the Fire, as is the big push Google is pressing on sucking up your favorite media"
"built by Asus, the Nexus holds a 1.3Ghz quad-core CPU, 12-core Tegra 3 processor, NFC, and 1 GB of RAM, a 1.2MP front-facing camera, and 8 hours of battery life—all with two different storage variants: 8 GB and 16 GB. That's a damn good level of muscle behind a 7-inch, 1280x800 screen, measuring 198.5 x 120 x 10.45mm."

Why? Do you regret buying a device that has been out for almost a year? If so, you probably get buyer's remorse for every single item you've ever purchased. The tech world moves rather quickly. Rumor has it Amazon will reply with a KF2 by end of July. We'll see. Be happy that we're seeing cheaper and better devices. Don't be a cheapass.

Itaintrite said:
Why? Do you regret buying a device that has been out for almost a year? If so, you probably get buyer's remorse for every single item you've ever purchased. The tech world moves rather quickly. Rumor has it Amazon will reply with a KF2 by end of July. We'll see. Be happy that we're seeing cheaper and better devices. Don't be a cheapass.
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no i meant to write more but hit finsih.
my girl got me the fire for v -day thinking she was being nice. i never actually wanted it. now this is out and if i change my fire for this i will have to listen to her whining because she doesnt understand tech

On the plus side, I'll begin Android 4.1 development the day the source is dropped by Google.
That's mid July.
Last I checked, the Nexus 7 will ship in about 2-3 weeks.
That's mid July.
So while the Kindle Fire will get blown away on any benchmark when compared to the Nexus 7... It may have Jelly Bean running on it right around the same time Nexus 7 owner's are getting them in their homes.

tevil said:
no i meant to write more but hit finsih.
my girl got me the fire for v -day thinking she was being nice. i never actually wanted it. now this is out and if i change my fire for this i will have to listen to her whining because she doesnt understand tech
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Well, I'm sure she'll understand. You can just get the Nexus 7 and give her the KF ;P

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On the plus side, I'll begin Android 4.1 development the day the source is dropped by Google.
That's mid July.
Last I checked, the Nexus 7 will ship in about 2-3 weeks.
That's mid July.
So while the Kindle Fire will get blown away on any benchmark when compared to the Nexus 7... It may have Jelly Bean running on it right around the same time Nexus 7 owner's are getting them in their homes.
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I love you. Inappropriate, but true.
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Well, I'm sure she'll understand. You can just get the Nexus 7 and give her the KF ;P
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i bought her an ipad 2 for her b-day prior which is why i think she got me this because she knows i dislike apple.
the thought was nice but now im trapped within this device for another year or so at least lol. At least the Devs are good here..... huh "hash" huh huh huh wink wink nudge nudge!

How much do you think I will get if I sell my Kindle Fire to get a nexus 7
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You'll probably get $100-150 off Craigslist but closer to $100 I'm thinking about selling mine too the nexus is badass
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Mines in great condition not a scratch
Do you think I'll get more if I sell my case with it
The case was $45
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I love you. Inappropriate, but true.
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How much do you think I will get if I sell my Kindle Fire to get a nexus 7
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I was thinking the same thing and checked out CL and was stunned. Fire's are hemorrhaging on that site for as low as $75 used and $100 new/unopened. So I'm probably going to pass on this new toy from Google as nice as it is...
I'm pretty confident that besides Skype, there really isn't much I would do on that tablet than I can already do on the Fire (I don't use Bluetooth on it and I don't play games on it...so...).
Not saying my choice is the right one for everyone...but the extra $125 I would have to spend doesn't really justify it for me.

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I was thinking the same thing and checked out CL and was stunned. Fire's are hemorrhaging on that site for as low as $75 used and $100 new/unopened. So I'm probably going to pass on this new toy from Google as nice as it is...
I'm pretty confident that besides Skype, there really isn't much I would do on that tablet than I can already do on the Fire (I don't use Bluetooth on it and I don't play games on it...so...).
Not saying my choice is the right one for everyone...but the extra $125 I would have to spend doesn't really justify it for me.
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I agree, my KF does everything I want a tablet to do except for video chat, though I have my Rezound and laptop for that. Knowing Hash will have Jelly Bean for us about the same time the Nexus 7 is released is awesome. I'll probably upgrade from the KF after a full year of use (early January '13) but I'm in no rush.
I look at it this way, we already have something Nexus 7 buyers don't: a out 8 months use of a good solid Android tablet.
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we are only behind by ffc/bt. still love my fire but I'll prolly get a nexus 7 also just for more fun.

smirkis said:
we are only behind by ffc/bt. still love my fire but I'll prolly get a nexus 7 also just for more fun.
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NFC and GPS too if those matter to you; and the Nexus is sounding quite speedy too.
It's been over half a year since Amazon started selling the current Fire and I'm curious to see what kind of performance, features, and screen sizes their rumored Fire 2 will have

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NFC and GPS too if those matter to you; and the Nexus is sounding quite speedy too.
It's been over half a year since Amazon started selling the current Fire and I'm curious to see what kind of performance, features, and screen sizes their rumored Fire 2 will have
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I just ran the chain fire benchmark and the sun spider browser benchmark on my fire running the sgt7 ROM. I came really close to their numbers for the Nexus, 1757 for spider and 11047 for chain.
It's clear that the linaro tweaks give a huge boost, and Google has probably incorporated those optimizations into jelly bean.

tevil said:
no i meant to write more but hit finsih.
my girl got me the fire for v -day thinking she was being nice. i never actually wanted it. now this is out and if i change my fire for this i will have to listen to her whining because she doesnt understand tech
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Do you have a mother, sister, brother, or even a father that might like this Kindle Fire? (Especially a mother, sister or other female family member.) You can explain to your girl that you really appreciate the thoughtfulness of her getting it for you but you've decide that you really want person XYZ to have it and you've got your eye on device ABC when it comes out. Of course some variation might be needed, but if you put enough thoughtfulness into how you explain it then your girl can hardly argue with you otherwise she'll look like a real *****.... but presentation is key.

What will Jelly Bean give us that we don't already have?
I'm curious.

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What will Jelly Bean give us that we don't already have?
I'm curious.
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For us (Kindle Fire users)...probably not much.

Am I the only one who hates that the Nexus 7 is just an oversized phone?
Seeing as how the Fire handles ICS way better than my phone, I do not see a legitimate reason to switch to a Nexus 7.
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Buy or not?

So I'm debating to get my dad a nexus 7 16gb wifi only from staples for $200,for his b day.. My question is,
What's the common issues? I know reviews are really high but all things have some issues despite people who buy it and a day later review it without having it for some time.
Was it worth it? Do you guys love it or hate it or get annoyed or what? Either this or a electric Fireplace space heater...

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So I'm debating to get my dad a nexus 7 16gb wifi only from staples for $200,for his b day.. My question is,
What's the common issues? I know reviews are really high but all things have some issues despite people who buy it and a day later review it without having it for some time.
Was it worth it? Do you guys love it or hate it or get annoyed or what? Either this or a electric Fireplace space heater...
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Ya can read around here. Like most devices there are a few issues but IMO there are no deal breakers. All in all I think most users here, myself included are very happy with this. I have the 32 GB 3g BTW
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ReapersDeath said:
Either this or a electric Fireplace space heater...
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Well, I can say 100% that I would rather have my Nexus 7 than an electric Fireplace space heater
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Because you don't live in Alaska....:sly:
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ReapersDeath said:
So I'm debating to get my dad a nexus 7 16gb wifi only from staples for $200,for his b day.. My question is,
What's the common issues? I know reviews are really high but all things have some issues despite people who buy it and a day later review it without having it for some time.
Was it worth it? Do you guys love it or hate it or get annoyed or what? Either this or a electric Fireplace space heater...
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I love my nexus 7, its the most up to date google software device running jelly bean. Its pretty smooth on stock software, i SUGGEST the 32gb model, i have it and it was 269$ total that was with ny 8% sales tax. They are selling it pretty cheap it take them about 180$ to make it and they sell it for not much of a profit. THIS IS PURELY GOOGLE software. No ASUS overlay like cellphones or anything. Its great it and the BEST tablet for the money.
Cons: No rear camera, no external SD slot, on stock software you cannot view landscape mode on homescreen and do not purchase from gamestop have not heard good things as in LCD problems and such. I suggest staples, walmart, or playstore.
Hope this helps!

I don't know how old your dad is but I am 66 and I freaking love mine.
Got mine from Google on pre order...unlocked and rooted the first day and haven't looked back!!!
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hambino3 said:
I love my nexus 7, its the most up to date google software device running jelly bean. Its pretty smooth on stock software, i SUGGEST the 32gb model, i have it and it was 269$ total that was with ny 8% sales tax. They are selling it pretty cheap it take them about 180$ to make it and they sell it for not much of a profit. THIS IS PURELY GOOGLE software. No ASUS overlay like cellphones or anything. Its great it and the BEST tablet for the money.
Cons: No rear camera, no external SD slot, on stock software you cannot view landscape mode on homescreen and do not purchase from gamestop have not heard good things as in LCD problems and such. I suggest staples, walmart, or playstore.
Hope this helps!
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The last update gave landscape mode on stock homescreen
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I vote for the Nexus. I've had mine since November and haven't had any problems with it. It's a great value, I did a lot of research before buying mine and found it to be the best 7 inch tablet.
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Buy it, you'll have no regrets. I'm sure your dad will love it, just like we love our N7 devices. It's one of the best tablets on the market.

Honestly, I think the N7 is just about the best $200 you can spend as far as technology goes.
Mine is basically defect-free. That hardware is really nice. It's a convenient size, great for reading, email and web-browsing.
However, only you know your dad. If you think he'd like a tablet, the N7 is definitely a great one!

I found this to be ironic since I bought an electric fireplace heater AND nexus 7 recently
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For my dad I would go with the heater, because he's not into these types of toys. But like someone said, only you know your dad, and the fact your considering getting him one speaks volumes, so as an opinion I say go for it. My 32GB was the best $260 I've spent in a long time.
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yes i agree !! Its worth buying

giffy89 said:
yes i agree !! Its worth buying
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I don't know your dad's age but I did something similar I'll describe below.
My step-dad is 61. He's never been real big on technology, he likes using it, for example he's a movie buff and loves home theater stuff, but he really doesn't care at all to know how it works or why it works. He's the kind of person who mysteriously ends up with the strangest toolbars ever on his computer when all he was trying to do was type something in notepad.
When he saw my first tablet, which was when the ipad launched originally, he fell in love with having a big screen and touch interface. So I got him one for Christmas and half expected him to use it for a little while and get frustrated or bored and shelve it longterm. But to my surprise he took to it with no problems and lived on it.
Fast forward a few years to the Nexus 7 launch. A few weeks after the Nexus 7 launched (I bought at staples before the pre order fiasco prior to launch day) he had surgery, heart surgery actually. He had some minor complications and ended up staying in the ICU a few weeks instead of a few days. There was no TV where he was.
His surgeon really stressed to us that he couldn't be working from the ICU, so his own ipad was out of the question. I went and bought a case for the Nexus 7 and then loaned it to him in the hospital. He usually likes big screens and large print, but he says the 7 inch screen is perfect for him and he really liked the Jelly Bean OS and interface a lot. Now he's begging for his own Nexus 7 after using those for a few weeks.
When I'm caught up financially I will buying him a Nexus 7 for sure. Even for a "bull in a china shop" type person who's not a techie, the Nexus 7 is one of the best overall devices I think you could give as a gift. The tablet and jellybean just work, and work great, and it's not much of a learning curve.

Just buy it. It's a greatest device for its money with powerful cpu+gpu plus the grate service support (hope you never needed). The only bad thing is that the glass is not gorilla glass but just Corning class so you must be gentle with the screen.
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Will you be getting the next Nexus 7?

Been thinking about it myself. If they have HDMI or MHL out, I'm sold.
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Asus has to cut corners to meet Google's price point, so no.
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Depends on what the specs end up being and whether or not I get an Android phone (currently using an iPhone 5). I may do a flip and go from Android tablet/iOS phone to iOS tablet/Android phone... or I may ditch iOS altogether. I know what the vote would be on this forum

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Depends on what the specs end up being and whether or not I get an Android phone (currently using an iPhone 5). I may do a flip and go from Android tablet/iOS phone to iOS tablet/Android phone... or I may ditch iOS altogether. I know what the vote would be on this forum
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Hey, don't be that fast to assume. I own a lot of tablets and my iPad is almost always my go-to device, mainly because I personally have no use for widgets so most Android tablet launchers are wasted on me.

for sure

You never know. All Nexus devices are sold at cost.
One of the big downfalls of the N7 was the lack of Video Out. Although, now with Android Sticks and the Ouyas, I'm not sure if it is really needed anymore. My N7 works so well that it would be hard to give it up, but they are still super nice and possibly able to sell for $100+. Right now, I'd say no... but once it is released, I'm sure I'll pick it up. Something typically always surprises me and makes it a no brainer.
The price is low enough that selling your old device > new device makes it a great buy.
The sad thing is that I need to sell my existing devices. I have a brand new, in the box, Nexus 7 32gb and my current N7 32gb. If I pick up a new one, my old lady will flip her lid.
So I am in no rush to grab one and I will probably wait it out to see if it is really worth the upgrade.

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Hey, don't be that fast to assume. I own a lot of tablets and my iPad is almost always my go-to device, mainly because I personally have no use for widgets so most Android tablet launchers are wasted on me.
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The reason I'm considering getting an iPad (it would be a Mini, by the way) is because iOS 7 has actually impressed me quite a bit in day-to-day use. I've also fallen in love with Jelly Bean over the last 5 months or so of using my Nexus 7. That leaves me in a quandary where I'm not partial to either and there are some compelling reasons to have one of each, especially the combo I'm considering.

I was going to, but not anymore. I broke my 8gb n7 about two weeks ago and have a nice payout from square trade, but the issue is that now I need my tablet. I have grown impatient with Google's lack of released info this year on dates and prices, however its safe to assume its going to be more expensive. I decided to grab a 32gb n7 that's presently $199 instead. Its still a healthy upgrade for me and I can use my old cases and accessories. I also like to play with ROMs so the older device will of course have better support for awhile.
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The lack of tablet apps kind of discourage me to get the next n7...

I've had a 16GB N7 for almost a year and it's been a great tablet. Besides one issue I had with it not charging it has worked VERY well. I've never had any of the (somewhat) common issues like screen separation and it's still plenty fast. With that said I recently returned a new 32GB N7 that I purchased for $199 at Microcenter. I'm glad I did because the 32GB model is now $30 less at Staples. There was absolutely nothing wrong with it - zero build quality issues and it seemed noticeably faster than my 16GB model. I just don't want to get stuck with last years hardware if the new N7 is a big upgrade at a similar price.
In my opinion, it's unfair to compare an actual, available device to rumors, so I'm going to wait for official specs & price for the new N7 before making up my mind which one to buy.

I totally agree with you that the 32gb model is faster, esp loaded with cm10.1 and lean kernel. I also had an issue with one if the 32gb units, the staples mgr and I figured out they had a batch of units from batch D20 that were all defective with various issues. He broke out a D10 and its flawless. FYI if anyone sees any issues with theirs and what batches to look out for.
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IMO these company's need to learn to give us what we want. I want a HDMI out, SD card. If the new Nexus does not have it, I'm not buying it.
There are to many other company's willing to put out a device that has what I want/need, so they will get my business.
Besides, even the new Sero 7 pro does everything I need it do to. Why would I need to buy a new Nexus with a faster processor and better resolution when after all, it's just a 7 inch tablet, not a PC. Once it got to the point where HD movies and games played without pausing or stuttering, what's the point of a faster processor?

I'll get the next on when/if my 32g dies! Not before.
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No. I don't really even want a tablet anymore after my bittersweet relationship with the n7.
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Leraeniesh said:
Been thinking about it myself. If they have HDMI or MHL out, I'm sold.
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Probably SlimPort, or at least I hope it is since I already have one for me N4.
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I will be. I held off on getting the first gen for too long since my xoom has been more than adequate. I am getting antsy though and would like the smaller format for outside the house.

Probably not, my nexus 7 is fine for now, and when I get a new tablet is probably going to be a Galaxy note.
Touchwiz is meh, but that spen on my phone has sold me, i love to do art work with it.
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I was thinking about getting one. But after Staples lowered the price of the 16GB to $149 out the door I just had to get it. I could careless about a camera and SD slot so the original nexus is perfect for me...

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The lack of tablet apps kind of discourage me to get the next n7...
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Am I the only one that thinks tablet apps look like crap on 7" tablets in portrait mode? On a 10" tablet, sure they are great...but that is because you use them in landscape. 7" portrait is just too cramped IMO. I am OK with the lack of true tablet apps on the play store.....once I get a nexis 10 my view WILL change though.
Also, depending on what the current nexus 7 is going for around here I might pick it up. Extra power, double ram, and higher re screen would be awesome.
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I for sure will get the next nexus 7, either that or the next nexus 10, not sure there, but I love the size of the 7 , but mine has screenlift real bad and is laggy and slow (original 16gb) so it sits around collecting dust
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Want to buy Nexus 4. Still a good device?

Hey guys,
I am thinking about getting a Nexus 4 to replace my HTC Sensation. The Sensation has many problems such as huge battery drain and it gets extremely hot during usage. So I thought the Nexus 4 would be a great idea. Pure Android (huge fan of that, was using CM for a long time on my Senny) and Google Support sound good and the price seems to be okay to (I could buy a 16GB variant for about 310€).
Is this phone great? Is it still worth buying considering it's already nearly a year old? Does it have some know problems such as huge battery drain or display problems?
I need this phone for browsing, using the calendar, writing emails/sms and sometimes taking photos. I don't play any games on it except 4 pictures 1 word.
Thanks in advance!

I too came from a Sensation, and it's a fine upgrade, for all the reasons you mention. Perhaps not as durable as HTC's build quality, so be sure to include a decent cover (I use the Diztronic TPU and it looks factory) to protect that beautiful glass. It's a joy to use..you can't go wrong. Cheers!

I just got one a couple days ago. I'm really liking it. Great jump from a galaxy s2
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paranoid android85 said:
I just got one a couple days ago. I'm really liking it. Great jump from a galaxy s2
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X2
I came from a galaxy s2, and previously HOX tegra. I bought a N4 2 weeks ago, and in stock its pretty smooth, awesome i'd say. Better price/performance choice. You wont regret
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I bought a Nex4 about 6 weeks ago after being a long term BB user, our company provide BB but have just let us go BYOD. I got N4 to replace the BB and so far it hasn't disappointed in any way. I also wanted the pure Android experience after my N10. The phone has been a good choice.
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Honestly, if that is all you use your phone for, you should get the Lumia 1020. But if you want to stay with Android and can wait 4 more months, the 5th Nexus will be out then and should the price be as low as the Nexus4, then it would be better to get that.

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Honestly, if that is all you use your phone for, you should get the Lumia 1020. But if you want to stay with Android and can wait 4 more months, the 5th Nexus will be out then and should the price be as low as the Nexus4, then it would be better to get that.
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The Lumia 1020 would be out of the price range. I'd never pay 400€+ for a phone I only use for work. I probably can't wait till the next release because the Senny really bugs me. I can't use a phone which burns in my hand because it's getting extremely hot while chewing through battery like nothing. My Sensation barely gets through the day with moderate use.
€: And I don't like WP because I'm a huge fan of costumization.

Keep the Sensation or whatever you have and wait for Nexus 5, trust me on this.
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Keep the Sensation or whatever you have and wait for Nexus 5, trust me on this.
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I can't sincerely tell someone to purchase a 7 month old device when knowing a faster device will come for the same price in due time.

Well you can go on buying Nexus 4, everything is a beauty when you compare prices and then it is a google phone so it always have it perks.
If you think you should wait for nexus 5 then its not very much pretty soon bcz this time google launched s4 and htc one as google variant which means next nexus will take time.
Your tasks which u need to perform as you have mentioned would all be performed very well.
Tip I can give even for better battery.
Unlock the bootloader, use custom recovery such as CWM and flash CM 10.1 stable releases which ever is latest.
Find franco kernel and flash that and for better colours use its colour profile.
You will have an outstanding experiance with great display and great battery time.
Best of luck.
NOTE. All decision is urs what ever suits you best.
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I can't sincerely tell someone to purchase a 7 month old device when knowing a faster device will come for the same price in due time.
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People will and should buy the device that suits their needs and the price they are willing to pay.
If you want a unlocked / contract free phone the device is a good choice
The entire motion that a new device will be out in a couple months is pointless. He wants a phone now. A couple months is just that. A couple months living with a phone he doesn't want. Then when the next nexus device comes out there will be the next best thing on the horizon.
He a is a basic user that doesn't participate in the stupid I need the lastest and greatest hw spec race.
Sitting around waiting for 4 plus months for a device is just stupid.
Why buy a HTC one now? The plus version is coming? Why by a s4 now? The advanced or whatever version with the 800 is coming in a couple of months.

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People will and should buy the device that suits their needs and the price they are willing to pay.
If you want a unlocked / contract free phone the device is a good choice
The entire motion that a new device will be out in a couple months is pointless. He wants a phone now. A couple months is just that. A couple months living with a phone he doesn't want. Then when the next nexus device comes out there will be the next best thing on the horizon.
He a is a basic user that doesn't participate in the stupid I need the lastest and greatest hw spec race.
Sitting around waiting for 4 plus months for a device is just stupid.
Why buy a HTC one now? The plus version is coming? Why by a s4 now? The advanced or whatever version with the 800 is coming in a couple of months.
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To each their own, I cannot speak for the needs of TC nor their personal interests. Whether he's comfortable with waiting X months is currently unknown and has not been divulged in this topic, so we can agree to disagree.

He said he probably can't wait for the next release because his phone bugs him.
Even a device like the HTC first would suit him fine hardware and software wise. Not unlocked and cheap of course ( don't even think it launched outside the US or unlocked) but just talking the device itself
There are plenty of users who are not concerned with the I can read the spec sheet pissing matches. Wait for the latest and greatest chip so they can have a higher score in benchmarks etc.

Its definitely still worth buying full price. Its a great device especially if you're a fan of stock android like you said.
Happy phoning.

I really don't need high specs. Benchmarks never intersted me because at the end you probably won't feel any difference between for example the snapdragon 600 and the snapdragon 800 in everyday use. I just want the phone to work well without stuttering and without any hick ups.
Send from my flying Note 2

If you need a phone now, just go for it. If you are not in a hurry, you can wait and see what comes up. IMO I usually don't want the first batch of the phone anyway since they are usually the ones with problems.

just buy it
I highly recommend nexus 4.. Believe me it's as smooth as HTC one out even better..
Root and flash cyanogenmod and Franco kernel... That made me a delighted user from a happy user...
Besides it'll have developer support for hell lot of a time to come... Even after people forget about HTC one and s4..
:good::good:

I'm going to buy it at the end of August and I think it is still worth it. However reading this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2259334 scaried me!

Why Didn't You Upgrade To The New Nexus 7?

Hi guys...... I just want to know your reasons why didn't you upgrade to the new nexus 7.
For me, i dont think i need to upgrade because mine still working better using PA w/ faux kernel in it. I had issues before with screen flickerin, auto turn off when battery reaches down to 32%, slow charging...but it's all fixed now. Found a lot of ways solve the problem. Lagfix works better for me so i dont have any problems with lag.
Im also happy using OTG for sharing photos from my sony nex-5n camera. So i think i dont need a camera on a tablet.
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4.3 fixed the trim issue so nobody should have lag issues. I, like you, don't feel the need to upgrade. Mine does everything I need/want it to do. Sure I like nice new shiny toys but just can't justify $250ish, give or take a little depending on size, for something that performs all the same functions as last year's model.
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I will upgrade at some point, but I'm not in a rush. Two reasons for that:
1) This isn't an essential device for me. Just a casual "toy" that's great to have. I still live and die by my desktop and I'll probably never fully fit into the mobile world (Still refuse to own a phone).
2) For reasons I can't explain...maybe the upgrade to 4.3 or the fact I added another router in my house that gets a strong signal to my N7, or both, this device is working smoother and faster than it EVER has. Browsing the net, in particular, is comparable to my desktop experience now. Bottom line: everything is fast and lag free.
So, yeah, I'd like to have the new one, but with my 1st gen working so well I can't justify the cost as it's not an essential piece of tech for me...

Well... I don't think it's available here in the UK until August 28. Or at least according to Wikipedia it isn't.
And even then I don't think I'll buy it... already spent more money on tech and software this year than I should have.
I'll probably wait, until the run up to Christmas, when local stores will be vying for competition... and as a result there'll be some cost cutting. Not by much I grant, but £10 or £20 shaved off the RRP sounds good to me.
Also, I'm never a huge fan of immediately buying tech just when it's been released - it usually comes with a cornucopia of bugs, hardware defects and other unpleasant idiosyncrasies. Give it five or six months, and those wrinkles will likely have been ironed out.
And in any case, 4.3 is running sweetly on my current Nexus 7... so much so, in fact, that I doubt I'll ever bother with Custom ROMs/Kernels.
I'm a man of simple tastes... Root, Nova Launcher and AOSP browser is all I really need. (+ some core apps).
Rgrds,
Ged.

I'm not upgrading because this one is still working and I have to save money to buy furniture and baby clothes.

Not upgrading because my Nexus 7 still works like a charm, being able to do anything I could wish and because I simply don't have the money/don't want to spend it on it.
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Now I've got a fast rom and kernel and am running 4.3, I can't see the need.
I'd like the better screen, but I'll wait until all the issues are resolved before I look again.
Alan

Multirom is not yet available on N7 2013. I couldnt go to a tablet without a multiboot solution anymore. The ability to run 4.2.2 roms, 4.3 roms and Ubuntu desktop for n7 all at the same time has allowed me to be desktop and laptop free.
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Cause this one still works and still gets updates.
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I'm waiting just in case they do the same thing they did last year and drop the lower end model and introduce a higher capacity one at the same price point. I was furious after buying a 16gb model in 2012 for $250 only to have them release a 32gb model for the same price a few months later! I'll gladly wait for a possible 64gb at $269 or even $299. If it hasn't happened by the time the Nexus 5 (or whatever they're gonna call it) drops this fall then I'll feel safer buying it (after I get my hands on the next Nexus phone of course...!). The good thing is, I already have a handful of people that want to buy my old one from me just cause they know it's already pimped and will include tech support (from me lol)
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I've got 4.3, one of the main reasons I would upgrade. And my needs are very simple. Mostly forum reading aps, like this one. News, Wikipedia, the occasional web search, and YouTube.
The first gen handles that with ease. My 5" Phablet handles everything else.
So i will wait and see what is new in the future at this size.
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Our Nexus 7 has the newest Android version and has still a very fast cpu and gpu. I don't see any reason for spending 250€ again for a new device.
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As I live in the UK I can't even see the new model to appreciate just what differences there could be over an above that what I already have got with my 16GB Nexus 7.
But mine seems to be more than adequate to meet my needs.
I do, on occasion, get to use my wife's Xoom and with that being a 10" tablet I do like the screen size difference and I now seem to be more interested in the up and coming replacement for the Nexus 10 rather than this model. However price will be a big influence there.
Having already got a tablet I do not think of the value that they offer as a stand alone device, if that makes sense, but more of what they offer over and above what I have got.
I suppose that goes part way to explain why I'm not too much interested in the 2013 version of the Nexus 7.

I haven't upgraded yet because I remember how it went with the original Nexus 7: I bought one shortly after it came out, then a model with double the storage hit the market for the exact same price and the one I had dropped down.
I'll be waiting for the 32gb model to hit in November for the exact or near same price as the current 16gb model.

Why waste money on something I don't need?
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I haven't upgraded yet because Google keeps telling me "this product is not available in your country yet"
Definitely want the LTE version....
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Like others have already said, my current N7 is doing what I need it to just fine!
Also, I found that I wouldn't mind having the mobile connectivity when I choose to; so I think I'd only upgrade if they came out with the LTE model in Canada.
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Remcotjuuh said:
Not upgrading because my Nexus 7 still works like a charm, being able to do anything I could wish and because I simply don't have the money/don't want to spend it on it.
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Mine also..still working good. Otg making me not needing the use of nexus 7 2nd gen camera. I think i'll have to wait for the 3rd gen to come out just to upgrade.
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I don't want to upgrade because of putting out the cash. I like my 1st gen tablet. It works great, fast and does everything I need it to do. Other than the sake of having something new, meh I don't care.