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Hi guys, after a 6 months period with HTC Wildfire S, i decided it was time to upgrade my device, so here i am, a newbie Nexus S user.
The first things i did with my new toy were unlocking the bootloader, gaining root permissions and installing CWM.
But i noticed that Market isn't updating, it's stuck to THIS version (i think it's 2.13)
Has this anything to do with root and cwm? Or it's just a matter of time and i'll eventually get the update?
Same thing with firmware: at the moment i'm running 2.3.3: looking for updates, and even using the *#*#checkin#*#* code, provided the same result: no FOTA available. Is this due to the root+cwm or i just need to wait?
I know this has already be discussed in the faq, but i find them quite confusing.
I mean, i know i could do a manual update, but i'd like to know whether if i'll ever receive a fota update or if i've lost this chance after root.
Q: I'm rooted with Clockwork and can't install the OTA! I updated to 2.3.1 and lost root! What gives?
most of the time, official OTAs will not install through custom recoveries because of their tendency to break root or restore things like the stock recovery. Also if you've made any modifications to the system files such as replacing the default Mms.apk(messaging) with the custom Black Mms.apk found in the Themes & Apps section, or deleted any .odex files from the system partition, it will not install. The easiest way to update to 2.3.1 is to flash a custom rom such as one of the custom ROMs or use the 2.3.1 Stock NANDROID backup found in the development section. And yes, 2.3.1 "broke root." To regain it, simply follow the steps in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884499 (All credit goes to the original author(s) of the linked thread!). The aforementioned procedure is only needed on the Stock Nandroid Backup, not any of the custom ROMs.
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Thanks in advance for the answers!
There is no update due to the root, i advice you to manually update your phone to the latest version 4.0.3 using cwm, after that root again. finally you will have rooted ics on your nexus s.
uhm, you say i won't receive updates.
FAQ says most of the time i won't receive them.
THIS thread says i will receive them.
I am confused.
from what I can make sense of, it sounds like you should be getting updates. The FAQ you posted says that if you try to install one of the official OTA updates through CWM, it will fail most of the time.
i don't know how reliable that "checkin" trick is, and it may depend on your carrier as well.
if you've already rooted your device, then i would just flash one of the custom roms, you won't want to go back to the OTA after...
Root/cwm recovery/unlocked boot loader etc has nothing at all to do with your device receiving the ota update notification
albundy2010 said:
Root/cwm recovery/unlocked boot loader etc has nothing at all to do with your device receiving the ota update notification
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Thats correct. It has only to do with the install. (It will fail).. if you dont get the notification for an ota i dont know whats wrong...
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Ok, finally tonight something started to move.
I received a message saying "A software update is available. Reboot the device to begin the installation" or something like that.
I rebooted and a CWM screen appeared, saying that the update could not be installed due to problems with the signature, sorry i can't remember word by word.
So... how can i know what the update was? I tried to browse the root folder in search for a .zip, but with no success. Any clue?
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Ok, finally tonight something started to move.
I received a message saying "A software update is available. Reboot the device to begin the installation" or something like that.
I rebooted and a CWM screen appeared, saying that the update could not be installed due to problems with the signature, sorry i can't remember word by word.
So... how can i know what the update was? I tried to browse the root folder in search for a .zip, but with no success. Any clue?
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If you had 2.3.3 the update was probably the 2.3.6 and after that you would have received the 4.0.3 update....anyway from what I remember the version of the ota update is showed in the notification bar...isn't it?!
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SavageButcher said:
Ok, finally tonight something started to move.
I received a message saying "A software update is available. Reboot the device to begin the installation" or something like that.
I rebooted and a CWM screen appeared, saying that the update could not be installed due to problems with the signature, sorry i can't remember word by word.
So... how can i know what the update was? I tried to browse the root folder in search for a .zip, but with no success. Any clue?
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1. I assume it was the a step up from 2.3.3 to a max of 2.3.6 as OTA updates to 4.0.3 are currently on hold due to battery drain issue
2. your OTA install is failing because you have custom recovery (CWM) but the OTA updates require the stock recovery (3e)
if you really really want to install OTA updates, you gonna have to go back to stock recovery (do a nand restore, hope you have one) then flash the OTA updates for your device
how to do you update a rooted lg g2 over the air. everything is stock on the phone.
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how to do you update a rooted lg g2 over the air. everything is stock on the phone.
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From what I understand, you will still be able to get updates thru OTA.
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From what I understand, you will still be able to get updates thru OTA.
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the recovery "kill" the otas, not the root.
so you have costom recovery you will get the ota but you will be unable to install it, if you use jest a root and have stock recovery - you fine and will get the ota.
So i can update rooted lg g2 over the air when a new update comes out
liorra3 said:
the recovery "kill" the otas, not the root.
so you have costom recovery you will get the ota but you will be unable to install it, if you use jest a root and have stock recovery - you fine and will get the ota.
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I my self do not have a custom recovery. I am just rooted and running stock ROM. I had asked the same question maybe a month ago, and I was told that I would still be able to get OTA updates. If I am wrong, feel free to tell me.
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hd-renegade said:
I my self do not have a custom recovery. I am just rooted and running stock ROM. I had asked the same question maybe a month ago, and I was told that I would still be able to get OTA updates. If I am wrong, feel free to tell me.
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Im new to this, so if you have rooted lg g2, will ota still work. Everything is stock on the phone
hd-renegade said:
I my self do not have a custom recovery. I am just rooted and running stock ROM. I had asked the same question maybe a month ago, and I was told that I would still be able to get OTA updates. If I am wrong, feel free to tell me.
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you right.
if you use stock recovery you will get OTAs
if its stock and merely rooted then OTA should work
For the OTA to be accepted, you'll need the stock recovery for your device. Rename it to recovery.img (if it already isn't named that) and then move it to sdcard root (/sdcard).
Now, use a terminal emulator (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jackpal.androidterm&hl=en) and open a command prompt. The command we're using has two parameters. The the "if" parameter refers to your input file, in this case, this is the recovery.img file you moved to your sdcard root to flash. This could be any recovery (TWRP, CWM, stock, etc). The "of" parameter is the output file and is the actual physical path to the recovery image your device uses. At the command prompt type this:
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su
dd if=/sdcard/recovery.img of=/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/recovery
If you already have the stock recovery then all you need to do is press "Accept" or "OK" or whatever the dialog asks when it pops up letting you know about the update. I'm not sure if the stock recoveries are different for each carrier, so you'll have to find that yourself.
Edit: By the time I finished typing this I see that you already are on stock recovery, so you should be good to go
Idk mines flashed to stock and rooted
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Just bought a g2 and am thinking of rooting to enable the auto hide of the on screen menu buttons. So correct me if im wrong but if all i do is root, leave the stock rom and do nothing apart from root i will still get ota updates.
But the update can remove root right? So is there any way I can keep my phone from automatically updating and losing root? I don't want to lose root... Mainly cuz i love not having software keys.
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SuperSU Pro has an OTA survival Mode. You can try it out, it should work
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But the update can remove root right? So is there any way I can keep my phone from automatically updating and losing root? I don't want to lose root... Mainly cuz i love not having software keys.
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Try the above or remove/freeze whatever the apk your carrier uses for the OTA. There's a couple threads around with more info.
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Another question: (don't want to start a thread for this)
If you have custom recovery (In my case TWRP) when an OTA lands, obviously I won't be able to accept it.
I'll need to flash it through TWRP correct?
If this is the case will this simply apply as OTA's do and not delete any of my data on the phone etc?
Also is there a stock recovery I can download just to make things easier??
First time I've had a phone rooted and with recoverybefore it's update cycle is over, and Google isn't really being all that helpful
How to backup stock recovery?
I just picked up the G2 two days ago and rooted pretty much immediately (via ioroot10) but other than that, I'm still running completely stock. I saw some recent posts stating that it was now possible to install TWRP or CWM on the D80010o firmware, so I decided I would go ahead and take the OTA update and then install a custom recovery. However, I have tried install the OTA several times now and every time, when the phone reboots after downloading the update, I get error "0x1117008" when the OTA tries to install, and then the phone reboots to system and I get a popup stating something to the effect of "This device is suspected of rooting. Software updates will not be available for rooted devices." Checking the software version I see that I'm still on D80010d and the 10o OTA update is still available and has to be downloaded again.
Anyone else have this issue?
And no, I have not installed a custom recovery yet.
m4570d0n said:
I just picked up the G2 two days ago and rooted pretty much immediately (via ioroot10) but other than that, I'm still running completely stock. I saw some recent posts stating that it was now possible to install TWRP or CWM on the D80010o firmware, so I decided I would go ahead and take the OTA update and then install a custom recovery. However, I have tried install the OTA several times now and every time, when the phone reboots after downloading the update, I get error "0x1117008" when the OTA tries to install, and then the phone reboots to system and I get a popup stating something to the effect of "This device is suspected of rooting. Software updates will not be available for rooted devices." Checking the software version I see that I'm still on D80010d and the 10o OTA update is still available and has to be downloaded again.
Anyone else have this issue?
And no, I have not installed a custom recovery yet.
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Nice to see you here dude.. may remember me from the rocket? Anyways, i'd just skip the OTA. It's nothing life changing. I'm still stock/rooted on 10d. Waiting for bugs to get squashed on 4.4.2 before I start flashing. Rather enjoying stock for the time being. Not really sure why 10o won't take. Haven't seen anyone else mention this. The only thing that has been brought up repeatedly is bootloops in twrp after taking the 10o OTA.
m4570d0n said:
I just picked up the G2 two days ago and rooted pretty much immediately (via ioroot10) but other than that, I'm still running completely stock. I saw some recent posts stating that it was now possible to install TWRP or CWM on the D80010o firmware, so I decided I would go ahead and take the OTA update and then install a custom recovery. However, I have tried install the OTA several times now and every time, when the phone reboots after downloading the update, I get error "0x1117008" when the OTA tries to install, and then the phone reboots to system and I get a popup stating something to the effect of "This device is suspected of rooting. Software updates will not be available for rooted devices." Checking the software version I see that I'm still on D80010d and the 10o OTA update is still available and has to be downloaded again.
Anyone else have this issue?
And no, I have not installed a custom recovery yet.
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I am having the same error but don't remember seeing the same pop-up, just says install failed or something like that. I'm on Verizon stock Rom rooted. I've done plenty of mods by manually pushing them through, but I have the stock recovery and no custom recovery.... So safe to say, looks like you can't update with root. Gonna start searching for unroot then re root after update is installed. Doesn't seem like there is another way to do it. Anybody know if the temp unroot via superuser apk will work?
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thricerocks86 said:
I am having the same error but don't remember seeing the same pop-up, just says install failed or something like that. I'm on Verizon stock Rom rooted. I've done plenty of mods by manually pushing them through, but I have the stock recovery and no custom recovery.... So safe to say, looks like you can't update with root. Gonna start searching for unroot then re root after update is installed. Doesn't seem like there is another way to do it. Anybody know if the temp unroot via superuser apk will work?
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I am still investigating. I've unrooted via Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper and a little extra housekeeping, and the Rooting Status does show "unrooted" in the About Phone section. However I still get 0x1117008 when trying to install the OTA. So perhaps the "unrooted" in About Phone may be a prerequisite, but is not sufficient for a successful OTA update. Maybe either the update is doing more checks for rooting evidence than the RCT daemon, or perhaps there is some other change that is triggering the error.
Tried to take the ota cause I read that after the update you can just reroot with the io tool. When I tried to take the update it said this device is suspected of rooting or something along those lines and the update failed to download and install. Has this happened to anyone else?
Jspeer said:
Tried to take the ota cause I read that after the update you can just reroot with the io tool. When I tried to take the update it said this device is suspected of rooting or something along those lines and the update failed to download and install. Has this happened to anyone else?
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I didn't have this issue. I downloaded the update, but my problem was that I had a custom recovery installed and when my chromecast rebooted my phone, it sent it into a bootloop that wouldn't get out of recovery. I found an article here to fix that, but needless to say that I won't be doing OTA's with custom recovery again.
If you take the update, your recovery will loop. There is a fix for it in the root thread by @thecubed. So, the choice is yours.
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I was just rooted on the stock rom. Forgot to mention that. I did however have "survive ota" checked in superuser though, I wonder if that had anything to do with it. I haven't tried it again with that unchecked. The update just isn't important enough to me to justify messing with it, I just took it because I was out of postpone attempts. But now the message is completely gone and not nagging me anymore and everything still works fine root and all.
Jspeer said:
Tried to take the ota cause I read that after the update you can just reroot with the io tool. When I tried to take the update it said this device is suspected of rooting or something along those lines and the update failed to download and install. Has this happened to anyone else?
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OTA update from Phone will fail if you are rooted. Either on custom recovery or rooted status. Don't use update from phone, but connect phone to PC and use LG Support Tool. This one doesn't care of root, it will download full 10c update 1.9GB and update your phone. I just did it this way (rooted + TWRP). No problem, no data lost.
But of course, you need to root it again and install custom recovery as well.
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OTA update from Phone will fail if you are rooted. Either on custom recovery or rooted status. Don't use update from phone, but connect phone to PC and use LG Support Tool. This one doesn't care of root, it will download full 10c update 1.9GB and update your phone. I just did it this way (rooted + TWRP). No problem, no data lost.
But of course, you need to root it again and install custom recovery as well.
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Where can I download the lg support tool? Do you have a link?
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Where can I download the lg support tool? Do you have a link?
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You can get it from LG website. Or for example in this thread.
Don't do it!
Unless you NEED the ISIS functionality, I STRONGLY urge you to postpone or even disregard D80010o altogether. I don't know what "bug fixes" their release notes talked about as I've not seen one single improvement over D80010d, yet battery drain, battery drain. Once you update you'll notice your battery going downhill and all of a sudden "Android System" takes up about 50% of your battery usage. It's happened to 2 LG G2s I've owned, battery was phenomenal before the update, after the update... like I said. You'll learn to hate "Android System". I'd either wait for 4.3 or KitKat altogether.
Just have a quick question about upgrading my S4 on MF3 to 4.3. This is my first Android phone (came from many Jailbroken and customized iPhones) and I haven't done an update on Android yet.
I currently have Titanium Backup installed and the AT&T updater app frozen to prevent receiving updates. I am currently successfully rooted on 4.2.2. My question is in the regards to the process by which I upgrade to 4.3 via OTA. Is this the correct process?
1.) Upgrade my SuperSU to Pro & Enable "Survival Mode"
2.) Defrost the AT&T updater in Titanium backup.
3. How do I initiate the update?
Is there anything else I'm missing? Thanks for any clarification on the process.
Can somebody that has done this please answer the simple question?
I purchased SuperSU Pro and enabled "survival mode" and rebooted. Then I defrosted the AT&T software updater and tried to update twice to 4.3. Update failed to install in recovery mode at 25% both times. I am currently on 4.2.2 MF3 w/ stock recovery & rooted. Any idea as to what is causing the update to fail.......and yes I have used google and searched the forum. There are too many threads with conflicting information.
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Can somebody that has done this please answer the simple question?
I purchased SuperSU Pro and enabled "survival mode" and rebooted. Then I defrosted the AT&T software updater and tried to update twice to 4.3. Update failed to install in recovery mode at 25% both times. I am currently on 4.2.2 MF3 w/ stock recovery & rooted. Any idea as to what is causing the update to fail.......and yes I have used google and searched the forum. There are too many threads with conflicting information.
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Be patient no one is going to help you demanding like that. Read the 4.3 thread in the general section and you can see at least a bunch of people are having problems with it, its not just you. I'll tell you what you need to do you just have. Download Odin 3.07
Download adb
Download mf3-mj9.zip
Download mj9-mk2.zip
Adb flash. You should be on mk2.
Good luck and let the hunger games begin.
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Hey all. I have a rooted D800 (AT&T variant) with stock recovery and on firmware version D80010q. I am trying to update to the KitKat, but It's giving me an error every time I download and try to update. The error is: Err: 0x1111004. When the phone reboots, it says "This device is suspected in rooting. Software update is not available for rooted device".
I have tried using OTA rootkeeper to temporarily unroot, but it doesn't seem to work. Is there any way for me to get the update without having to flash back to stock?
This is my problem too. Hopefully there is a way.
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Maybe doing a factory reset from stock recovery?
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rohan611 said:
Hey all. I have a rooted D800 (AT&T variant) with stock recovery and on firmware version D80010q. I am trying to update to the KitKat, but It's giving me an error every time I download and try to update. The error is: Err: 0x1111004. When the phone reboots, it says "This device is suspected in rooting. Software update is not available for rooted device".
I have tried using OTA rootkeeper to temporarily unroot, but it doesn't seem to work. Is there any way for me to get the update without having to flash back to stock?
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Its due to the custom recovery you have on it..Go back to stock dont root and update...maybe try root keeper to see if that can help
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Its due to the custom recovery you have on it..Go back to stock dont root and update...maybe try root keeper to see if that can help
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nope. as i said in the OP< i have a stock recovery.
rohan611 said:
nope. as i said in the OP< i have a stock recovery.
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then try root keeper it will disable root but back up root path and reinstate it once the update is done
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then try root keeper it will disable root but back up root path and reinstate it once the update is done
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as i said in the OP...I tried root keeper to temporarily unroot and it didn't work. I'm going back to stock and going from there.
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as i said in the OP...I tried root keeper to temporarily unroot and it didn't work. I'm going back to stock and going from there.
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lol..yeah i read each statement in your OP just wanted to get to that last part of you saying your going back to stock and going from there, because thats your next option....
Let us know if you went back to stock then did the update and it worked.
I've read that some people kept root through their OTA. Why are some people able to update and others aren't. I've been reading up on this for the VZW update whenever that happens. I hope I haven't kept all this bloatware on my phone for no reason!!
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Let us know if you went back to stock then did the update and it worked.
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I reverted back to stock using the instructions in the Stickied post. I was then able to update to D80010o. I had to call to request a rep to push out the D80010q update again though. They're calling it a "security update" so you should use that phrase when talking to the rep so that they don't get confused and think that you're just requesting that they push out the KitKat update.
Once I got the D80010q update, the KitKat update was available and I was able to update. Unfortunately, I didn't try to root it prior to updating - though to be honest, I don't really feel the need to root anymore. Only reason I had it rooted before was to get the multitasking button, but I'm okay with using an S3 layout (Menu, Home, Back) since that's the phone I'm coming from.
I have posted this in Other thread too.. may be this helps (Or save some time)
1.What ever the phone came with (never saw the version)
2. Rooted: Then just froze the apps I don't need (DID NOT DELETE) NO Exposed Or anything fancy. PURE STOCK just at&T bloat froze.
3. Then the Silent update came... I guess it was 10q (few weeks back), It was fine... ROOT remained.
4. Kitkat update came..
5. I de-froze all the apps before the update..
6. Tried to installed KITKAT after download... (After 1 of 2) it says Err: 0x111004
Once booted it said this update is not for rooted device. (or something similar)
7. I thought may be it recognized SuperSU/Super USer so I Uninstalled (Removed complete ROOT through the app) Download again the Kitkat.. Same ERROR And SAME message. I went it Recovery (Button combo) to complete wipe (Noticed RED Rooted below on the screen on Recovery) did the complete wipe and Still No Luck.
8. Go back to Complete stock through flash method as I realized ROOTED written on recovery so no wipe will help that...
9. chat with AT&T asked them to push 10q the silent updated.
10. once it was done I asked her if she can push Kitkat too.. she did.
The only thing was lost all the data in the process.. But I kept my pic's Auto backup through g+ so they are safe.. rest everything I lost which I don't care anyway. (Chat etc)
SO the BOTTOM LINE IS... If you see ROOTED on your stock recovery NO matter what you do... It will not update. If you dont see it.. then your are fine I Guess ("I guess" is the keyword)
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Also I'm not sure if there are 2 versions of root methods... So if anyone has Root and was able to update to kitkat.. Can you link which Root method you guys used.. Thanks in advance.
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Also I'm not sure if there are 2 versions of root methods... So if anyone has Root and was able to update to kitkat.. Can you link which Root method you guys used.. Thanks in advance.
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I used ioroot to root while on D80010d. I think some people who have had success rooted while on D80010o
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I used ioroot to root while on D80010d. I think some people who have had success rooted while on D80010o
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That is correct. I was on D80010o all four times I updated to Kit-kat and kept root everytime.
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1.What ever the phone came with (never saw the version)
2. Rooted: Then just froze the apps I don't need (DID NOT DELETE) NO Exposed Or anything fancy. PURE STOCK just at&T bloat froze.
3. Then the Silent update came... I guess it was 10q (few weeks back), It was fine... ROOT remained.
4. Kitkat update came..
5. I de-froze all the apps before the update..
6. Tried to installed KITKAT after download... (After 1 of 2) it says Err: 0x111004
Once booted it said this update is not for rooted device. (or something similar)
7. I thought may be it recognized SuperSU/Super USer so I Uninstalled (Removed complete ROOT through the app) Download again the Kitkat.. Same ERROR And SAME message. I went it Recovery (Button combo) to complete wipe (Noticed RED Rooted below on the screen on Recovery) did the complete wipe and Still No Luck.
8. Go back to Complete stock through flash method as I realized ROOTED written on recovery so no wipe will help that...
9. chat with AT&T asked them to push 10q the silent updated.
10. once it was done I asked her if she can push Kitkat too.. she did.
The only thing was lost all the data in the process.. But I kept my pic's Auto backup through g+ so they are safe.. rest everything I lost which I don't care anyway. (Chat etc)
SO the BOTTOM LINE IS... If you see ROOTED on your stock recovery NO matter what you do... It will not update. If you dont see it.. then your are fine I Guess ("I guess" is the keyword)
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Also I'm not sure if there are 2 versions of root methods... So if anyone has Root and was able to update to kitkat.. Can you link which Root method you guys used.. Thanks in advance.
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Same thing happened to me. I followed your advice in the other thread and did a reset using the LG flash tool, following rootjunky's guide on youtube and using the files from his website. Everything went smoothly except for at the end I got the same check flag error thing, but it completed the reset perfectly.
I then chatted with ATT and had him push the update to my phone which brought me up to d80010o. It finally went through the update and didn't get me the root error. So I think I'm in the green now. He said that he didn't have an option to push the kit kat update to my phone but it told him to have me do it through the software update in the settings. Which I tried and it said it was up to date. But he said that since they roll out in batches my phone might just not be ready for it yet. I will keep trying though and I'm one step further than I was before. At least it let me update. Shout out to ATT though, chat service is on point.