Hi,just one quick question,does the gallery app in honeycomb detect the media files on usb drive that plugged in the dock?
if it doesn't,anyway to enable it or other apps can do this job???
It should just treat any external storage like any SD card, ie it should scan it and add media to gallery. This might take some time if the drive is large.
Thanks mate...I'll get my tablet in few days time,will try it soon...hope it does the job...I don't wanna view picture on external storage by using file manager which is pretty annoying and lame...
i could be wrong about it, but the other day when i stuck in an sd card, the gallery didn't recognize the pictures. Maybe I didn't wait long enough, but I remember I was kind of surprised about it. Could be since an eternal device maps to /Removable/whatever/ instead of /sdcard/
I think I ended up copying all the pictures to local storage just so they'd show up.
I hope that's something that changes though cause it sure isn't very intuitive...
OMG,thats bad...
I hope some one can clarify this statement...can someone test this for me?cause the device(16GB) is now shipping to me,and i got lot of photo(about 5MB per image) in my usb drive and HDD.I don't want to copy all of them to the internal storage.
Please,someone please test for me...
sylau90 said:
OMG,thats bad...
I hope some one can clarify this statement...can someone test this for me?cause the device(16GB) is now shipping to me,and i got lot of photo(about 5MB per image) in my usb drive and HDD.I don't want to copy all of them to the internal storage.
Please,someone please test for me...
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I just tried it out and plugged in some cheap USB thumb drive. The picture I uploaded didn't show up in the stock gallery (or I didn't see it because there's already too much crap on my internal storage). However, there shpuld be other gallery apps that are Android version and screen agnostic that should do the job, so don't worry mate
Oh, and I tried ScanMedia app to rescan after plugging it in, too. But I waited only for like 30 seconds, so it might take longer.
The built in gallery does not pick up images from external drives other than the micro SD slot..
HOWEVER
This app does:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.alensw.PicFolder&feature=search_result
and very quickly too.
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I just tried it out and plugged in some cheap USB thumb drive. The picture I uploaded didn't show up in the stock gallery (or I didn't see it because there's already too much crap on my internal storage). However, there shpuld be other gallery apps that are Android version and screen agnostic that should do the job, so don't worry mate
Oh, and I tried ScanMedia app to rescan after plugging it in, too. But I waited only for like 30 seconds, so it might take longer.
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hi,thanks mate...for your fast response...
So,what do you mean is,after i plugged in the usb thumb drive,i have to wait for awhile or use the scanmedia app?
QuickPic is so much better than the stock gallery app....
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QuickPic is so much better than the stock gallery app....
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Thanks...does it handle photos on HDD and USB thumb drive well??
For A500, is there any way to turn off the MTP mode and just get A500 to act as an USB drive (i.e. USB mass storage)?
For copying large files, Acer Sync's speed is ok, but I copy offline newspapers for viewing on A500, and that involves thousands of small files. MTP's speed for copying large number of small files is much slower than USB drive. For example, I can copy a whole newspaper to a USB thumbdrive in 3 minutes, while using MTP mode it takes 15 minutes.
I'm new with the Acer, and I don't have an answer to your question, but I wondered about using a thumb drive. Needs to be formatted to fat 32. Just use the thumb drive like you would the micro sd card. 4 gig thumb drives are pretty cheap.
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Woody, I think you misunderstood my question, my question is not about using a thumb drive on A500... I would like the A500 to behave like a usb thumb drive when plugged in the micro USB cable to a PC's USB port.
The other annoying thing I forgot to mention about Acer Sync is that it is single task when copying files. You can only copy one file at a time, you try to copy another file before the first one is finished and it'll tell you the file system is busy...
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Woody, I think you misunderstood my question, my question is not about using a thumb drive on A500... I would like the A500 to behave like a usb thumb drive when plugged in the micro USB cable to a PC's USB port.
The other annoying thing I forgot to mention about Acer Sync is that it is single task when copying files. You can only copy one file at a time, you try to copy another file before the first one is finished and it'll tell you the file system is busy...
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If you're running 3.2 when you plug your tab into your PC your tab should pop right up on your PCs screen giving you two drives to choose from. External or internal SD card.. Drag and drop. Never heard of anyone using Acer Sync to copy files before.?!?
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If you're running 3.2 when you plug your tab into your PC your tab should pop right up on your PCs screen giving you two drives to choose from. External or internal SD card.. Drag and drop. Never heard of anyone using Acer Sync to copy files before.?!?
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Are you using A500? I know other tabs are like that, which is the normal usb drive mode. A500 isnt like that, it'll recognise as a A500 tab in win7, not a drive, and copying files is via this special protocol, not like a usb drive.
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Are you using A500? I know other tabs are like that, which is the normal usb drive mode. A500 isnt like that, it'll recognise as a A500 tab in win7, not a drive, and copying files is via this special protocol, not like a usb drive.
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Ummmmm my signature clearly states I'm using an A500, and I've never used Acer Sync in my life. Drag and drop files just like a thumb drive. It comes up as an A500 in win 7. You double click on the A500, and it will show 2 drives (internal SDcard, and external SDcard). Double click on whichever drive you want to copy files to, and drag and drop them in, or use "copy and paste".
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Ummmmm my signature clearly states I'm using an A500, and I've never used Acer Sync in my life. Drag and drop files just like a thumb drive. It comes up as an A500 in win 7. You double click on the A500, and it will show 2 drives (internal SDcard, and external SDcard). Double click on whichever drive you want to copy files to, and drag and drop them in, or use "copy and paste".
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That is using the PTP kind of protocol already, not acting like a thumb drive. Just do a simple test, copy one large file to the SDcard, and then before it finishes try to copy another file to it, it'll say the file system is busy. USB thumbdrive won't behave like that. Copy large number of small files in this PTP kind of protocol is much much slower than thumbdrive.
Also, try plugin in your A500 to a WinXP PC, it won't even recognise it without installing drivers for it.
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That is using the PTP kind of protocol already, not acting like a thumb drive. Just do a simple test, copy one large file to the SDcard, and then before it finishes try to copy another file to it, it'll say the file system is busy. USB thumbdrive won't behave like that. Copy large number of small files in this PTP kind of protocol is much much slower than thumbdrive.
Also, try plugin in your A500 to a WinXP PC, it won't even recognise it without installing drivers for it.
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You are correct, only one at a time when copy files unless you highlight two at same time, if i connect the usb drive directly into win7 pc it will automatically add to the loading file, as for the recognzie pc acer do say that on their support page...
there is a auto sync option in settings under accounts and sync..
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That is using the PTP kind of protocol already, not acting like a thumb drive. Just do a simple test, copy one large file to the SDcard, and then before it finishes try to copy another file to it, it'll say the file system is busy. USB thumbdrive won't behave like that. Copy large number of small files in this PTP kind of protocol is much much slower than thumbdrive.
Also, try plugin in your A500 to a WinXP PC, it won't even recognise it without installing drivers for it.
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Of course WinXP needs drivers, that's a given. It's a 10 yr old OS!
Your first post stated that you were using Acer Sync to copy your files.
I was simply wondering what kind of person would use Acer Sync to copy files when you can simply drag and drop them into your tab.
I tried what you asked. Started by dragging and dropping a movie to the tab, then tried d/d a few docs, and it indeed said busy.
When I chose them all at once and dragged and dropped them in, it copied fine, and much faster than a few of my thumb drives (three times the speed).
Question for you now. Why can't you simply choose all the files you want, drag and drop them into your tab and wait for it to copy the files, and be done with it? And second question is why would you ever choose Acer Sync to copy your files over?!?
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Question for you now. Why can't you simply choose all the files you want, drag and drop them into your tab and wait for it to copy the files, and be done with it? And second question is why would you ever choose Acer Sync to copy your files over?!?
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I did, in fact I chose a whole directory to copy to the A500. My problem is the speed, with thousands of small files, copying the files using this way is slow in comparison to thumbdrive, at least double the time.... in fact, I can copy the files to a thumbdrive and then plug that thumbdrive in the A500 to copy to it, and I can finish the copying action faster this way than plugging in the A500 directly to the PC.... so speed for copying large number of small files is my only main issue
The side issue is winxp, without the USB drive mode, I can't connect to my office PC as I dont have admin rights to install programs on that PC... and one last thing, I probably put the subject wrong, I didn't use the Acer Sync, I'm using that PTP kind of protocol as per default, I thought that was Acer Sync at first
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That is using the PTP kind of protocol already, not acting like a thumb drive. Just do a simple test, copy one large file to the SDcard, and then before it finishes try to copy another file to it, it'll say the file system is busy. USB thumbdrive won't behave like that. Copy large number of small files in this PTP kind of protocol is much much slower than thumbdrive.
Also, try plugin in your A500 to a WinXP PC, it won't even recognise it without installing drivers for it.
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PTP or MTP? PMPs and most media devices use MTP. They're generally designed this way so that you don't corrupt files or damage the files on the flash drive by disconnecting without first removing the drive in Windows. It shouldn't technically be that much slower than a thumb drive if you multi-select stuff. I generally sync my mp3 list when I'm going to travel in case I don't have wifi and xfer time seems similar if not quicker than copying them to a thumb drive.
I'll try to see if I can get some small files, maybe pictures and test those.
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It shouldn't technically be that much slower than a thumb drive if you multi-select stuff.
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I know, theoretically it shouldn't be that slow. Practically, I don't know what's wrong with Acer's implementation of it, it is dead slow copying large number of small files. To give you an idea, the offline newspaper I copied is about 1,000 files, mostly html about 1k big. The jpg files are about 100-300k big. It took me about 15-20 minutes to copy those files to my A500 via the usb cable. If I take my SDcard out and copy the files direct to the SDcard using a card reader, that can be done in 3 minutes.
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I know, theoretically it shouldn't be that slow. Practically, I don't know what's wrong with Acer's implementation of it, it is dead slow copying large number of small files. To give you an idea, the offline newspaper I copied is about 1,000 files, mostly html about 1k big. The jpg files are about 100-300k big. It took me about 15-20 minutes to copy those files to my A500 via the usb cable. If I take my SDcard out and copy the files direct to the SDcard using a card reader, that can be done in 3 minutes.
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I did another test using mp3s and the xfer was fast. Copied 150 files, 890MB total in 3m 35s using a class 4 card. That's around right.
Ironically, the same files took 6m 20s to the internal drive.
The only conclusion I can make at this point is that for some reason the bigger the file, the faster the transfer to the external SD. The smaller the file, the faster the transfer to the internal drive. This is all speculation.
Can you try copying them to the internal drive and let me know what you come up with? I myself am going to now try a comparison of 1 big movie file.
Update: I finished the other test. Puzzling. 1 MP4 file @ 2.26GB copied in ~3m to the external SD card.
In the same amount of time, just 1/3 of the file copied to the internal storage (I stopped that transfer, it was going to take ~9-10m).
I could only start to guess what's up. Maybe the A500 is actively scanning files being transferred to the internal storage and it ignores files smaller than a certain size or there's some other overhead going on and "noticing" media files, vs. any other kind.
The SD card is for the most part on the other hand, free and clear. I get the same results from my phone and its external SD, and that's connected like a Thumb Drive, as you put it.
Note that both the internal storage AND SD card are still accessible when the A500 is plugged in through USB, unlike most phones where the SD card is first unmounted.
What class microSD are you using? I think your best result might be copying directly to the tablet OR buying a faster microSD card.
I did the test to internal storage, it is even slower than SDcard.
I did another test - copying 400 html files of 1-4k, a total of only 1.6MB. The A500 took 3 minutes to do that, while my thumbdrive finished in 18 seconds. The A500 can only do less than 3 files per second, no matter how small the files are, that makes copying large number of small files a pain in the a$$.
I used a class 10 SDcard, and the result is about the same, the problem is with the interface, not the SDcard speed. You won't notice the slowness unless you are copying files that are really small, if you copy MP3 files that is 5MB big, you won't reach the limit of 3 files per second anyway.
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i assume people using win 7 DIDNT REALIZE that a500 use MTP, because a500 just shows up like a usb drive altough in reality they dont get any drive (they just dont care)
only people with mac and win xp will realize a500 use MTP ,
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For A500, is there any way to turn off the MTP mode and just get A500 to act as an USB drive (i.e. USB mass storage)?
For copying large files, Acer Sync's speed is ok, but I copy offline newspapers for viewing on A500, and that involves thousands of small files. MTP's speed for copying large number of small files is much slower than USB drive. For example, I can copy a whole newspaper to a USB thumbdrive in 3 minutes, while using MTP mode it takes 15 minutes.
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I know exactly what you're saying. it's pretty horrible that the a500 uses MTP for file transfer.
Some workarounds I found was to transfer files using FTP, which is much faster for several small files so even over the wireless it'll be faster.
Also some other techniques I found were to zip the many files on my computer, transfer the zip and unzip them on the acer.
Also the other obvious is to plug the microsd card to your computer with usb.
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I know exactly what you're saying. it's pretty horrible that the a500 uses MTP for file transfer.
Some workarounds I found was to transfer files using FTP, which is much faster for several small files so even over the wireless it'll be faster.
Also some other techniques I found were to zip the many files on my computer, transfer the zip and unzip them on the acer.
Also the other obvious is to plug the microsd card to your computer with usb.
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Yes, sadly I have to use other workarounds, there seems no way to use USB mass storage mode on USB. I now copy the files to a USB thumbdrive, and then insert that thumbdrive to A500 to move the files to A500. Even though that is twice the work, it is still much faster than using MTP transfer alone.
It's not the A500's fault it uses MTP. You can thank Google for that as they're the ones who built it in to Honeycomb and dropped USB Storage mode.
Hopefully it'll be back in ICS...
Alternatively, some file managers will allow you to send files via wifi to and from the tab. For me this is the prefered method (I use file expert, which is free). However, I noticed that occasionally large files like movies may fail, perhaps due to signal quality. I haven't had any problems with individual files up to 200-300 MB.
Hummmm not sure if this has been asked. Where are you putting the files at on your Iconia.If your putting them on the external SD card. Remember not all SD cards are treated equal.
Check the speed class of the card.and run a test to see how fast it can actually accept the files. Just because a card says class 10 does not mean its built well enough to handle that speed.
Internal storage can sometimes be slower then others as well.This would be considered a defective device.
I would surest to see if its faster or slower depending on where you store them.for me storing on my. Class 10. Ocl sd card..
I just copied some photos from my phone to a windows xp computer, disconnected the phone, took some more pictures and wanted to copy them over. So the phone shows up, i clicked on DCIM and Camera, selected the photos, CTRL+C and CTRL+V on my computer, but nothing happend. So i tried drag+drop, but nothing happend, even after several tries. So i thought the computer has a problem (it's Windows!) and i restarted the PC and i still saw the pictures, but couldnt copy them. So i restarted the phone and what happend? The internal memory is empty (empty empty!)... And as it's mounted as MTP device there is no way to use a data recovery software like i could do with SD cards... i didn't like MTP devices before, but now i really hate the MTP protocol - something like that never happened to any other of my phones with internal and or external memory and which were all able to use USM aka mass storage mode. And who invented MTP? Microsoft...
Beside that:
* Windows 8 doesn't show its nice copy progress window when copying to an MTP device --> https://www.google.com/images?q=windows+8+copy
* Windows 8 doesn't offer copying with skipping existing files in the target (only copy new files). on the first match, it asks to overwrite. if you disagree the copy process stops.
So, can the phone see the contents, or have they entirely vanished from the phone's side as well?
it's neither here nor there, the data is just gone. thankfully i uploaded almost all photos to the cloud some days ago and everything else could be found somewhere, except the media files from whatsapp. so my concern is less about the lost data than that it happens again and i always found mtp slower and less reliable than mounting as a block devices (mass storage). beside that there is still alot windows software out there that doesnt work with mtp devices. the only benefit is that you can access the data on both systems at the same time. in general most points are already known, i just wonder what happend. is there anything for mtp devices like "safely remove hardware" for mass storage devices?
You could always switch protocols and "mount" it as a "camera device", in which case I believe you would have access only to the DCIM folder on the virtual SD. And, you if you need to transfer non-photo files around, you can always just resort to an on-device file explorer, moving from the Dropbox folder in and out, if you use that. Dropsync works really well for reasonably-sized files.
thanks for the hint. cause of that i already installed foldersync to backup files in the free 50gb box.net cloud which i never needed before. but it's never a bad idea to have a backup *sigh*