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Ok guys,
Samsung's new flagship, the Galaxy S III, was released yesterday.
As I saw the new UI my first thought was "I want this this and this for my S2!"
So what are your thoughts...
New TouchWiz?
Only the Lockscreen with App Shortcuts?
Only the "nature" animations?
Ported stuff (yet)
TouchWiz UX - Here
S-Voice (fixed = no build.prop needed!) - Here (Download)
Accu Weather Widget - Here (Download)
PopUp Play (just a solution) - Here
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I kinda like the new touchwiz. Not sure if its out for the GS2 atm, but if it's not, I'm sure it will get ported back to the GS2 by a kind developer (maybe as a whole launcher).
All that nature stuff is bs. Who are they marketing for? 50 year old wemon?
I'd like the stay awake feature, perhaps the voice control for driving, seems a lot better than the current one.
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Hehe, I was thinking of that kind of topic when I see yours
TW? Hum I'm not sure when you came from AOSP, pure Google experience that you want this
S-Blablabla? For example S-Voice: yes! All the S-blablabla are really interesting, the smartphone become really smart with these stuff, so I think this is where the S3 is great for us
If we can port these stuff, why should we buy a new S3? It only has a quadcore and à 720p Screen, and everybody knows that for the moment our Dualcore are correct...Until the S4
But another problem... the S3 has a bigger battery and I think the S-blabla can drain our battery really fast because they use the hardware (like the front cam) in background...So do we need a sort of S2 with S3 stuff but a dramatic battery life?
Id like a full port of everything lol
GOOGLE stuff r better then TW of SGS2 for ICS but not for GB (SAMSUNG adds so maney stuff that users that try AOSP allways ask why cant i find X and Y that i used to have in stock)
and now they done it again
the new TW looks better then GOOGLE stock and with TW stuff in it its better then the GOOGLE original
S-voice , TouchWiz Nature UX with all stuff and water-like lockscreen
p.s. - port of everything posible ))
I wouldnt have thought this would even need to be discussed, of course these bits and bobs are going to be ported to ROMS, shouldnt be too difficult either as its the same chipset, just another two cpu's strapped on.
What I am interested in with this Thread is, why people want especially "this" feature
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For those who are disappointed because of the spec. I'd say just go away.
Samsung realized that pushing hardware is enough for android now( it's really useless since every phones from other market brings the similar specs.)
so put some great effort to bring out the best user experiences with all those new cool features.
I don't think we will be able to port any functionality but S voice since i heard it fetches data from server.
The whole ROM, the new TW is nice (i still dont like it much, but it's better than the GS2 one), i love all the new features especially stay awake function and the camera improvement.
If possible, I would like every new feature. (even the touchwiz ui)
but most of all the S voice to go hands free.
Touchwiz
The touchwiz looks way better than the one on the gs2. S voice functions not so much till it completely understand natural language. On the whole yeah pushing the specs not that high is a good move and better yet focus on their feel and look
I'm sick of everyone saying I want aosp or cm9 unless u can get all the neat touch wiz features on them ill take touchwiz anyday even the current one. I hope this gets ported to my s2.
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S VOICE & the lockscreen. Other things are hardware related. Not expecting anything else
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irish-sid said:
All that nature stuff is bs. Who are they marketing for? 50 year old wemon?
I'd like the stay awake feature, perhaps the voice control for driving, seems a lot better than the current one.
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+1 ! I am, not buying that gay-nature-get in touch with your feelings stuff... I don't like how it looks,but that blinking-reading detection thing is kinda cool!
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why there is no option in the poll "Whatever possible" ?
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why there is no option in the poll "Whatever possible" ?
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Becoz then I would have missed the sense of this thread - I want to know what feature S2 owners are missing most
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i see thread after thread just spewing out hate for touchwiz..
how can so many of you not like touchwiz, lemme correct that *HATE touchwiz... i realize its the hip thing to do, to hate touchwiz, and you somehow think it makes you look pro, or cool, or like you know what youre talking about, but touchwiz rocks.. most of you havent even seen what the alternative is, you just hate it cause everyone else does.
do you realize losing touchwiz loses:
*built in screen capture by pressing home+lock
*task manager built into long press
*swipe left/right to call/text in contacts/dialer/texts
*toggles in drop down menu
*amazing UI in camera/file manager/ music player
*ability to adjust display options, beyond what stock roms are capable of
*swype
* ability to adjust brightness by moving dropbar back and forth
* the option to use the actual touchwiz launcher
* Divx, Xvid, and .avi support out of the box, as well as other formats supported only by samsung
*S-Voice
*Eye Tracking
*Smart Stay, keeps the screen awake while you're looking at the display
*Popup Play
its not like having a stock rom gives you anything in place of these.. if you dont like the touchwiz launcher, you can install another one, nova, apex, go, adw, adw ex, i cant see why ppl are soo determined to get rid of it, and have nothing in its place. would you really rather have no options, in place of where you DID have options?
answer now is not anymore or don't hate it that much anymore.
I don't hate the touch wize, I hate the touchwize launcher and i miss all my touchwize apps, I actually wish I could have to touchwize framework on my custome ics rom just with a another launcher
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If you dont change to an AOSP ROM, only change the launcher, you dont loose those features, right
The bulk of what you mention can be built in to custom ROMs
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If you dont change to an AOSP ROM, only change the launcher, you dont loose those features, right
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Right, but I am on a aosp rom, and sadly tw is not enough to make me leave it.
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The bulk of what you mention can be built in to custom ROMs
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The day I find one for my phone I'll let u know
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The day I find one for my phone I'll let u know
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What phone do you have
I was in CyanogenMod before ICS, now back to Samsung based ROM, but I replaced the bad AOSP apps, like phone and SMS with others from the market as nice or nicer than TW´s
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What phone do you have
I was in CyanogenMod before ICS, now back to Samsung based ROM, but I replaced the bad AOSP apps, like phone and SMS with others from the market as nice or nicer than TW´s
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I got the Samsung GS I know about the market replacements but I want the organal, so far I got the clock and the task manger to work on my dark Knight 5.5, I am gonna try s voice tomorrow
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I really am hoping that I will like the new version of Touchwiz! If I can change the icons in the dock and on the homescreens as well as the size of the grid on the homescreen, then I see myself using it on my phone. If I can't do both of those things, then I'm using Apex.
I don't want to stare at the default dock icons all day long, they are way too cartoony and colorful for me. But yeah, if I can change ALL the icons in Touchwiz, slap a nice and dark wallpaper on there and get some Metrostation/Minimal Text goodness going... I would LOVE to use Touchwiz, because I always try to install as few third-party apps and stuff on my phones. I'm just afraid that it won't allow me the level of customization that I want. Lucky for me Android is about options, so I can have an alternative launcher on my phone within 2 minutes if I want.
So for me it's not about trying to be cool and hip. Those things come naturally to me.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think ditching Touchwiz will affect like half of the things on your little list there?
EDIT: Task manager, swiping left/right in contacts, drop down toggles, camera UI, swype, brightness control, popup play and certainly Divx, Xvid, and .avi support... I don't see those being controlled by what launcher you use? I could be wrong though
Most of that stuff isnt anything to do with TW at all. Most of it is in stand alone apps that will work whether you use TW as a launcher or not. I will be using Apex launcher and i will still have all the Samsung extras.
AOSP, Cyanogen and AOKP ROMS are over rated, most are slower than custom ROMs based on Samsung stock, they have missing or broken features and are often unstable. I dont see the point in getting a phone like the S3 and putting inferior software on it, why not just buy a Nexus to start with? The best ROMs are custom ROMs based on stock, optimised and free of the truly useless bloat.
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Most of that stuff isnt anything to do with TW at all. Most of it is in stand alone apps that will work whether you use TW as a launcher or not. I will be using Apex launcher and i will still have all the Samsung extras.
AOSP, Cyanogen and AOKP ROMS are over rated, most are slower than custom ROMs based on Samsung stock, they have missing or broken features and are often unstable. I dont see the point in getting a phone like the S3 and putting inferior software on it, why not just buy a Nexus to start with? The best ROMs are custom ROMs based on stock, optimised and free of the truly useless bloat.
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I agree but I have to go aosp to have ics on my phone
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I will continue using GO EX launcher, it does everything I like, no reason to change
have seen this same thread title somewhere else...
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have seen this same thread title somewhere else...
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Yeah...
OP why do you feel the need to post the same thread here? Is it because no-one's posted for a few days on the one you've got in the S2 forum
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Yeah, identical thread started by the same OP in the SGS2 i9100 forum.
Silliness.
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The codec support is definatly the best and I love the small things they added like the customizable battery percentage, extended toggles in the pulldown, newsticker on the lockscreen, shortcuts on the lockscreen etc.. it seems like they let you customize alot and I think you can really tell they hired someone from the CM team.
The new touchwiz also looks pretty good, I really like that they use 5 icons now. The appdrawer looks great and the plain black pulldown also looks nice. I think it looks very grown up now and even though it's using popping colours I don't find it too tacky or cartoonish like many others. I can't stand the "buhuhuhu they ruined the beauty of stock ICS buhhuhuhuhu" comments anymore it might not be "eyecandy" like sense which btw. I find extremly ugly but it is super smooth, compareable with iOS, it's minimalistic and not too overloaded.
The browser in gingerbread was crushing pretty much everything. It kinda sucks on ICS ATM, but seeing some videos it seems like it's fixed on the S3. Chrome comes close but it's still so buggy and lacks features. Samsung still has the smoothest browser, thats for sure...
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Most of that stuff isnt anything to do with TW at all. Most of it is in stand alone apps that will work whether you use TW as a launcher or not. I will be using Apex launcher and i will still have all the Samsung extras.
AOSP, Cyanogen and AOKP ROMS are over rated, most are slower than custom ROMs based on Samsung stock, they have missing or broken features and are often unstable. I dont see the point in getting a phone like the S3 and putting inferior software on it, why not just buy a Nexus to start with? The best ROMs are custom ROMs based on stock, optimised and free of the truly useless bloat.
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Absolutely not true! CM is probably one of the most stable aosp roms. It will provide you (after some time passed for development) with superior performance, battery life and sometimes options like ui themes etc.
This is fact, not just user experience... but for everyone the roms they prefer the most. Personally looking forward to have dualboot and cm9 as primary rom...
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gaeng4665 said:
Absolutely not true! CM is probably one of the most stable aosp roms. It will provide you (after some time passed for development) with superior performance, battery life and sometimes options like ui themes etc.
This is fact, not just user experience... but for everyone the roms they prefer the most. Personally looking forward to have dualboot and cm9 as primary rom...
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Sorry, but on my S2 Cyanogen 9 sucks compared to the custom ROM/Siyah kernel combo im using. I tried it.
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Yeah, identical thread started by the same OP in the SGS2 i9100 forum.
Silliness.
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not true, i added exclamation marks! lol
Hey everyone!
I've been looking to get back into ROM development, after a too much so extended break.
So what exactly would you all like to see? Stock, or AOSP? If so, what would you like out of either of these? Leave me some feedback, and let me know what you all would like to see. ^_^
I'd love something like these:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266993
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349656
Stock ROM with ports, activated features that were previously hidden, new features...
I'm getting this beauty in a few months when I pass by the US, so I'd love something for it. But seems like 4.2.2 for it is just around the corner, so you could wait a bit before doing anything based on stock...
And, on 4.2.2, PLEASE do one of these hacks that bring the 4.1.2 System Layout back. I hate the 4.2.2 one (status bar at top, buttons at bottom). Suck a waste of screen space...
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I'd love something like these:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2266993
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349656
Stock ROM with ports, activated features that were previously hidden, new features...
I'm getting this beauty in a few months when I pass by the US, so I'd love something for it. But seems like 4.2.2 for it is just around the corner, so you could wait a bit before doing anything based on stock...
And, on 4.2.2, PLEASE do one of these hacks that bring the 4.1.2 System Layout back. I hate the 4.2.2 one (status bar at top, buttons at bottom). Suck a waste of screen space...
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Yeah, I'll likely be waiting on 4.2.2. And that's also assuming that Sony didn't go ahead and rectify that on the 4.2.2 build. (As that's a rather offsetting UI change.)
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Yeah, I'll likely be waiting on 4.2.2. And that's also assuming that Sony didn't go ahead and rectify that on the 4.2.2 build. (As that's a rather offsetting UI change.)
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Thanks. As I've been reading with some people with info, they are finalizing the software. Also, seems like you're a really good dev. Coming from the Samsung Epic 4G and the LG G2x. Can't wait to get my hands on this tablet and also seeing your work here.
See ya another time, bro
i would love you if you could do something similar to slimbean
+1 for something stock based!
Because I definitely want the special features (MHL, IR blaster, Small Apps etc.), and in AOSP-based ROMs it seems rather unlikely that we will get these...
yeah, stock based would be awesome. do not want to miss out on some cool features like the remote control etc
do people look in the development section. Apache; a contest winner is making a ir blaster for aosp roms so we can use tablet as remote
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Yeah, honestly I was thinking something stock based as well, unless I can port some of the features to a CM or AOSP based rom. Truth be told, I actually prefer the Sony interface over AOSP; and I'm a huge AOSP supporter. Sony did it right with their interface. Minimal additions, but all seemingly add to the appeal of the interface. The small apps are quite nice too; and those would be rather hellish to port to AOSP.
@skiwong20 ; That's fine and dandy, but the application is far from mature at this point, and it's hardly the most appealing looking application at this time. No disrespect to the developer, as he's done a great job. But the maturity of the application simply isn't there, yet.
The ROM style I dig is best summed up with a look at the Viper ROMs on HTC devices. Mostly stock, but with an external mod supplied app that allows to toggle all the small and nifty tidbits... Changing app drawer grid size, modifying hardware buttons and the behavior of the soft buttons.
Adding stuff like: quick double tap on task manager icon does not bring up the app list but just toggles back to the last used app. Double tap Home goes directly to Google Now or something else, user-configrable, etc.
If its unclear let me knoe, and I will elaborate, its late here, need to sleep
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Hey everyone!
I've been looking to get back into ROM development, after a too much so extended break.
So what exactly would you all like to see? Stock, or AOSP? If so, what would you like out of either of these? Leave me some feedback, and let me know what you all would like to see. ^_^
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I'd like a port of the Nexus 7 Ubuntu desktop ROM to this tablet. I know folks like android, but this thing is basically an HD-res desktop PC. That's thinner than a pencil.
The main hiccup is the Xorg driver, but I think this has some probability of working: http://freedreno.github.io/
Anyway, I'd be willing to collaborate on it, but I'd like to see Ubuntu Core working on this without all the Ubuntu Touch bits...
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Got mine for one week, is there hidden stuff that I missed ?
Not so much developement in this section, definitely recovery for locked bootloader is missing, I don't really need it myself as I'll unlock it soon when more stuff will be available but some have requested.
An Advanced Stock Kernel would be cool too, for now only DoomKernel is available.
Just what comes in mind...
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Got mine for one week, is there hidden stuff that I missed ?
Not so much developement in this section, definitely recovery for locked bootloader is missing, I don't really need it myself as I'll unlock it soon when more stuff will be available but some have requested.
An Advanced Stock Kernel would be cool too, for now only DoomKernel is available.
Just what comes in mind...
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I don't know exactly in Tablet Z, but if you decompile some apps from Xperia S, Xperia Z, there are stuff in bools.xml, for example, that activates some nice stuff. Sadly, no one managed yet to deodex the stock ROM, that's why there is no stock based ROMs around. You need a deodexed ROM to make some mods...
Tough choice, dev. Stock looks really cool and keeping the functionality of the multitasking windows and the IR blaster would obviously be great, but isn't the lag quite bad in simple scrolling of home screens? I would say pure Android would be better on this device but that is just my humble opinion :cyclops:
Looking forward to seeing your great work.
Well I'm running CM10.1 on my Xperia Z Tablet SGP311 - works pretty well, no GPS, no IR Blaster
Although it has the horrible navigation buttons in the middle - I'm always hitting either home or back or multi-task when I'm typing away furiously - but I must admit that I like the top use for notifications. Seems logical to have it up the top.
Either way OP all I'm after is the something regularly maintained, with good communication. I know thats a lot to ask, but its critical if people want to use your hard work.
Thanks in advance mate.
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Just got my lg gpad 8.3 gpe and had a few questions.
1. Is there a way to remove home screen pages Or do I always have to have 5?
2. I am trying to find a remote app but can't find one. I know on my s4 I have watch on. I was wondering if there is remote app I can download so I can use the ir blaster.
I would really appreciate the help. Thanks
I can answer about the home screen. Unfortunately you can't remove any screens, that's the limitation of the stock Android launcher, you can install the GEL launcher or any other launcher for that matter. I hear Apex is a very good replacement.
I would also be interested to find a working remote app, have tried but haven't found anything useful yet. Hopefully someone knows.
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Just got my lg gpad 8.3 gpe and had a few questions.
1. Is there a way to remove home screen pages Or do I always have to have 5?
2. I am trying to find a remote app but can't find one. I know on my s4 I have watch on. I was wondering if there is remote app I can download so I can use the ir blaster.
I would really appreciate the help. Thanks
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Apparently the IR-blaster in the G Pad is different from the likes found in HTC and the Note's.. Sadly, they only work on stock LG rom atm. For Google and LG to partner up and sell a device that will continue to not support it's own hardware seems retarded, I reckon it's a matter of time before LG does something about it..
Home screen pages, as mentioned above, is simply a limited feature of the new AOSP stock launcher, it sucks and it's ridiculous. I can't stand that launcher. There's not ONE customizable thing about it. Jesus.
.. Customizable isn't a word, is it?..
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Apparently the IR-blaster in the G Pad is different from the likes found in HTC and the Note's.. Sadly, they only work on stock LG rom atm. For Google and LG to partner up and sell a device that will continue to not support it's own hardware seems retarded, I reckon it's a matter of time before LG does something about it..
Home screen pages, as mentioned above, is simply a limited feature of the new AOSP stock launcher, it sucks and it's ridiculous. I can't stand that launcher. There's not ONE customizable thing about it. Jesus.
.. Customizable isn't a word, is it?..
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So what I'm hearing so far is download another launcher because the stock one sucks? Lol okay I'll try some out. Also what I'm hearing is there is no current way to use the ir blaster on my g pad? That's kinda hard to believe and dissapointing if true.
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So what I'm hearing so far is download another launcher because the stock one sucks? Lol okay I'll try some out. Also what I'm hearing is there is no current way to use the ir blaster on my g pad? That's kinda hard to believe and dissapointing if true.
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You could try Nova or Apex. Those are pretty heavy on customization.
I'm sorry, but you heard right. Here on my v500 with CM 11 rom I havn't been able to find any IR apps that works yet. :\ Even tried to flash scripts and QRemote and so on. It just doesn't take fully. No pairing with devices at all.
Another question;
does face detection work on the GPE?
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Another question;
does face detection work on the GPE?
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Yeah seems to work normally.
And really confused why google hasnt put an app out for the ir blaster... I mean they advertise it on their tablet but make it impossible to use?
I just got my GPE too. After pulling the update and unlocking the bootloader , I started to set it up with Action Launcher, but ended up with Nova. Nova supports 4.4 's transparent notification bar--I like the look. I also like no icon labels.
I haven't messed with the IR blaster yet.
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I just got my GPE too. After pulling the update and unlocking the bootloader , I started to set it up with Action Launcher, but ended up with Nova. Nova supports 4.4 's transparent notification bar--I like the look. I also like no icon labels.
I haven't messed with the IR blaster yet.
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I really hope someone finds a way to use it. I'm really sad one Cuz its of the reasons why I got the gpad over nexus 7
The main area of the visible user interface (UI) that controls home screens and such - and it looks nice enough. It's not Nexus Android levels of clear, but you do get some fixes for those minor pure Android annoyances.
Hey guys..
I would like to ask you about an aosp rom with samsung futures.. cause i hate touchwiz.. the settings.. the statusbar and everything.. I have been searching for a long time but could not find anything about such roms.
So my question is: Is it possible to take a rom like CM 12 and add featuers like the power saving mode of TW or a fingerprintscanner support for that rom... Would be great to hear about a rom like that
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No. Closed source makes it difficult. Personally I find touchwiz sufficient and can't wait for lollipop.
But couldn't anyone take the priv apps and port then for cm and add a setting for the priv apps then or something ?
And lollipop will be great... but much will be white.. they take a amoled display and then they do everything in white ?! Thats dumb...
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But couldn't anyone take the priv apps and port then for cm and add a setting for the priv apps then or something ?
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And the entire set of framework code that will go with it
There's a reason no one has done it in the years that aosp and touchwiz custom ROMs have been around
Mods generally are written from scratch in aosp ROMs
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But couldn't anyone take the priv apps and port then for cm and add a setting for the priv apps then or something ?
And lollipop will be great... but much will be white.. they take a amoled display and then they do everything in white ?! Thats dumb...
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If it were that simple I would do it myself, your only hope is a google play edition but I reckon even if we get one it won't have a fingerprint sensor. And I don't really believe the whole black is better battery thing. I mean sure pixels off is but a lot of the time we actually get pixels showing a dark shade rather than off. You would have to spend a lot of time in settings or sms to care is what I'm saying. Plus if anything like my nexus 7 lollipop will improve battery and counteract this. But samsung may screw it up, pray that they don't cos kitkat got it right and made touchwiz an artistic and useful interface. White is used because its more pleasing to the eye than that bluey grey thing they got going on
Just sad... but thanks for your answers..
If there would only be a fingerprint scanner support i would even be happy.. but sad if its not poosible/too hard
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Just sad... but thanks for your answers..
If there would only be a fingerprint scanner support i would even be happy.. but sad if its not poosible/too hard
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You could try Alliance ROM with AOSP theme