[Q] Flashing clarification - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

After having just recently rooted my phone using CF-Auto root (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlsO5o_-CI8), I am looking to flash a new ROM and hoping to get some clarification or confirmation on the flashing method I am planning to use. I want to try and flash either a Google edition (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2341794) or Omega ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2253528).
When attempting to flash I will be following these steps:
Perform a nandroid backup,
1. Downloading the .zip file and put it onto my external memory card.
2. Booting into PhilZ CWM recovery and wiping data/cache.
3. Perform a factory reset using CWM recovery. (does this delete all my apps?)
4. Flash the .zip file using CWM.
5. Reboot phone.
Are these the correct steps to take?
I keep reading something about bootloaders and how it can brick your phone if you do not unlock it, is this true? I am unsure as to whether or not I have unlocked it.
Furthermore, can i use titanium backup or another program to not lose my apps? I really would not like to reinstall every single app after flashing a new ROM.
I am currently using the GT-I9505 locked to Virgin in Australia.

warriorya1 said:
After having just recently rooted my phone using CF-Auto root (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlsO5o_-CI8), I am looking to flash a new ROM and hoping to get some clarification or confirmation on the flashing method I am planning to use. I want to try and flash either a Google edition (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2341794) or Omega ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2253528).
When attempting to flash I will be following these steps:
Perform a nandroid backup,
1. Downloading the .zip file and put it onto my external memory card.
2. Booting into PhilZ CWM recovery and wiping data/cache.
3. Perform a factory reset using CWM recovery. (does this delete all my apps?)
4. Flash the .zip file using CWM.
5. Reboot phone.
Are these the correct steps to take?
I keep reading something about bootloaders and how it can brick your phone if you do not unlock it, is this true? I am unsure as to whether or not I have unlocked it.
Furthermore, can i use titanium backup or another program to not lose my apps? I really would not like to reinstall every single app after flashing a new ROM.
I am currently using the GT-I9505 locked to Virgin in Australia.
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1. If You have Just Rooted it using CF Root then u need to Install Recovery First. You Can Head to the Philz Recovery Forum and download the Tar file and flash Via ODIn.
And then You Can follow the Steps mentioned.

manu44 said:
1. If You have Just Rooted it using CF Root then u need to Install Recovery First. You Can Head to the Philz Recovery Forum and download the Tar file and flash Via ODIn.
And then You Can follow the Steps mentioned.
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I believe I have downloaded CWM recovery, or which ever custom recovery this is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2281367
I am still quite unsure on the bootloader, should I just not worry about this? Also, is there anyway to recover apps afterwards because I do not feel like downloading all my apps again.

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Quick CWM question

I used the lokified tool to root my phone and did the CWM recovery not TWRP. After getting everything up and running with a rom I downloaded rom manager from the play store and flashed the update, is everything good with my phone or do I now have to reflash the original cwm from the tool. Thanks for any help.
Cjohns8792 said:
I used the lokified tool to root my phone and did the CWM recovery not TWRP. After getting everything up and running with a rom I downloaded rom manager from the play store and flashed the update, is everything good with my phone or do I now have to reflash the original cwm from the tool. Thanks for any help.
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You'll be fine with the current one.
Now that u have a working recovery there is a auto Loki recovery zip file u can flash using your current cwm recovery.
I use it and like it alot

[Q] Installing custom ROM's

I've seen instructions for installing custom ROM's where you bring up the ROM file inside Odin (PDA area),
then you place the cell in Download mode, then you hit the [Start] button.
Instead of doing this, why can't you place the ROM files onto the SD card, then use Recovery mode to install them from there?
Thanks!
andyistic said:
I've seen instructions for installing custom ROM's where you bring up the ROM file inside Odin (PDA area),
then you place the cell in Download mode, then you hit the [Start] button.
Instead of doing this, why can't you place the ROM files onto the SD card, then use Recovery mode to install them from there?
Thanks!
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I only used Odin to root my device. After setting up a custom recovery, I've downloaded all my ROMs to the SD card and flashed them from there. Since you're (hopefully making and) putting your nandroid backup on the SD card, it makes it very easy to recover from an accident.
The method I used was from a Youtube video where the guy used Odin to root, and then GooManager to install TWRP. I've got a custom ROM on my phone and haven't looked back.
Good luck and have fun,
-Jeff
you need a custom recovery, I prefer TWRP, as stated above you can get it through goomanager which is available from the play store. after installing the recovery you can download any rom you want to your pc, transfer it to your phone (either phone storage or external SD) after that go into recovery mode on the phone (hold volume UP home button and power button down at the same time, when you see the Samsung logo, let off all buttons) at this point you can find the rom you transferred, and flash, before flashing anything you will want to do a nandroid backup, then do a full wipe before flashing the rom. after the rom is installed you can go into recovery through the power menu. good luck!
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scott_0 said:
you need a custom recovery, I prefer TWRP, as stated above you can get it through goomanager which is available from the play store. after installing the recovery you can download any rom you want to your pc, transfer it to your phone (either phone storage or external SD) after that go into recovery mode on the phone (hold volume UP home button and power button down at the same time, when you see the Samsung logo, let off all buttons) at this point you can find the rom you transferred, and flash, before flashing anything you will want to do a nandroid backup, then do a full wipe before flashing the rom. after the rom is installed you can go into recovery through the power menu. good luck!
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So a couple of questions then:
1: You cannot install a ROM using stock recovery?
2: What's included in an nandroid backup?
I'm assuming it includes the modem/radio files, yes?
andyistic said:
So a couple of questions then:
1: You cannot install a ROM using stock recovery?
2: What's included in an nandroid backup?
I'm assuming it includes the modem/radio files, yes?
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1. no, you will need either TWRP ot CWM
2. backs up all your data, etc, so yes everything gets backed up
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You use Odin to flash .tar files, which reverts your phone back to stock, unrooted factory condition.
Once you've rooted the phone, you use a custom recovery to install unsigned .zip files, which will generally be custom roms and/or mods.
Stock recovery will only install .zip files that are signed by the manufacturer, such as OTA updates and....not much else. If your phone is rooted, you have absolutely no use for stock recovery.
A Nandroid backup will usually include the boot image, system files, and user apps & data. I use TWRP, which also gives you the option to back up your recovery and EFS partition (telephony data). In most cases, you only need to make a backup of boot, system, and data.
Hope this helps.
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urgent! stuck on splash!

hey all,
so i am incredibly new to this scene and just recieved my s4. i was preparing to flash a ROM onto my phone, and got it rooted and installed CWM.
I forgot to download the actual ROM zip file, and went into CWM via goo manager, wiped factory/data and cache. It was only AFTER i wiped everything that i realised i didnt download the ROM zip file, so i rebooted the phone and now it is stuck on the start-up splash screen where it displays "Samsung galaxy S4 GT-I9505" and will not continue :crying:
I was running on stock, and had only rooted the phone.
PLEASE i urgently need to fix this ASAP. Help!
Hi,
is there a Odin Version of the Rom you tried to flash? If yes, you could simply bring your device to download-mode and flash the Rom with Odin.
Alternatively search for a odin flashable Recovery and flash this first. Then you could boot to recovery and flash the zip of the Rom.
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i tried installing the liquid smooth rom, and from what i can see there is no odin version of the rom :\
Are you able to direct me to an Odin flashable recovery I can use?
im really stressing out about this
i'm in the process of downloading a stock firmware and will try to flash it on, but it's taking forever to download
I don't see why you can't boot again if you have only wiped the user data and cache, just press the home button for 10 seconds and see if it restarts with your reset stock firmware. Otherwise you can reboot into recovery and do the wipes again (not the option to install a new ROM), or put the ROM zip you want to flash on an SD card and then flash from the SD.
I hope this helps.
suwidji said:
hey all,
so i am incredibly new to this scene and just recieved my s4. i was preparing to flash a ROM onto my phone, and got it rooted and installed CWM.
I forgot to download the actual ROM zip file, and went into CWM via goo manager, wiped factory/data and cache. It was only AFTER i wiped everything that i realised i didnt download the ROM zip file, so i rebooted the phone and now it is stuck on the start-up splash screen where it displays "Samsung galaxy S4 GT-I9505" and will not continue :crying:
I was running on stock, and had only rooted the phone.
PLEASE i urgently need to fix this ASAP. Help!
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You should of made a backup with CWM. That's what it's used for also, besides flashing .zips. Always make a backup that you can restore and keep an extra copy on ur computer and/or a usb drive.
You have to use Odin to flash a stock firmware from Sammobile website. Make sure you download the correct firmware for your phone.
Dont worry, your phone isn't brick.
when i first did the wipe, i chose the option that i was going to install a new ROM. I'm now assuming that's where i made a mistake.
I did make a backup before i wiped everything onto my SD card, but now i can't even access that backup because it's saying there's nothing.
I've tried flashing a ROM onto it, but it says aborted.
Yes SORF ist right. It should boot into resetted stock firmware.
First try to copy the Rom to SD and then boot to recovery an try flashing it.
If booting to recovery doesn't work (but it should work if you just wiped user data and cache) you should try flashing new recovery with odin.
You could use Philz recovery for GT-I9505 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2281367
Installation Instructions for installation with odin you find here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39433857&postcount=4
windozeanti said:
You have to use Odin to flash a stock firmware from Sammobile website. Make sure you download the correct firmware for your phone.
Dont worry, your phone isn't brick.
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Thanks, that's what I'm doing right now, but the file is about 1.8GB and taking so long to download...
i wish there was a faster server, but this is the only option i could find :\
Have you tried to boot into recovery again and then flash your already downloaded rom from sd? So you don't have to download a complete sammy rom.
j0ch3 said:
Have you tried to boot into recovery again and then flash your already downloaded rom from sd? So you don't have to download a complete sammy rom.
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yes i have tried that, and it says that install aborts.
Also when i re-wipe everything and then try to reboot, it says my device is missing root.
When i try to re-root, and the device reboots, it gets stuck on the intro screen again so the root doesn't actually complete installing
have you fixed it yet?
so im going to try a different ROM other than the liquid smoothe one i wanted (since it keeps saying aborted)
question: does it matter if i use ANY s4 ROM regardless of carrier? I'm from Australia and there is no specific carrier for my phone on xda
Why does it fails to install? Are there any more error messages?
Also you can try the point "Fix Permissions" under Advanced Options. This could help.
suwidji said:
so im going to try a different ROM other than the liquid smoothe one i wanted (since it keeps saying aborted)
question: does it matter if i use ANY s4 ROM regardless of carrier? I'm from Australia and there is no specific carrier for my phone on xda
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try something lite like miui - it will save you time on download and is a good solid base to work from. dont flash the lite gapps without a reboot.
for a solid Sami based rom then i suggest using GoldenEye.
scottyf79 said:
try something lite like miui - it will save you time on download and is a good solid base to work from. dont flash the lite gapps without a reboot.
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ok so i went ahead and found the cyanogenmod one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317040
and installed this and it works
though i dont like the look of this ROM lol, i prefer something a little more stock looking.
Any recommendations?
When reflashing a new ROM, what is the process i need to follow?
Cyanogenmod is themeable. So you could search for a stock like theme and install that.
If you like an overall more stock rom try scottyf79's recommendation.
If you want to flash a complete new Rom first copy zip onto sd, then boot into recovery, wipe data and cache, then falsh zip file.
Try the Omega Roms. They are close to stock.
Closest to stock are the prerooted DJembey ROMs (the CWM ones) or the Wanam Lite ROM (it's what I am on now)
suwidji said:
ok so i went ahead and found the cyanogenmod one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317040
and installed this and it works
though i dont like the look of this ROM lol, i prefer something a little more stock looking.
Any recommendations?
When reflashing a new ROM, what is the process i need to follow?
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personally -
i use Philz recovery
before install of a new rom - i use the "new rom" wipe option rather than the normal data,cache and dalvik wipe (it does this but adds in some extra steps)
then flash the rom of choice
if you get any other messages before reboot - select no
like i said before, if you want a stock looking Sami rom then try Golden Eye.
Try the Omega Roms. They are close to stock.
Closest to stock are the prerooted DJembey ROMs (the CWM ones) or the Wanam Lite ROM (it's what I am on now)

[Q] how to install custom rom over another custom rom on i9500

Hv been using Arrow rom 8.0. Works fine but wanted to upgrade to Arrow rom 9.0 which is based on the rom for India.
The phone is rooted and custom recovery installed(don't know much about the way to use it). Downloaded the rom and went into recovery mode. Ok'd the wipe data/factory reset. Ok'd wipe cache. Ok'd the option of upgrade from external storage and the phone went to the manual mode with csc as inu and asking for the filename. Didn't know what to do so yanked the battery and rebooted. The booted to Arrow rom 8.0 with all data gone.
One more thing I noticed that in recovery mode I had to use a magnifying glass to read the options. Also there was no option to choose the external storage ie the sd card where I download or copy the roms it only shows phone storage.
Would appreciate the help received in pointing me to the right direction.
These are really basic questions. I'm supprised you managed to flash a rom in the first place.
Full wipe in recovery, if you still could boot after wiping, like in your case, then you didn't wipe correctly. Your phone shouldn't be able to boot anymore after the wiping (because there is no more rom installed).
Then flash the rom. If there is no option for external storage (i think this is highly unlikely), then just copy it to your internal sd card and flash from there.
Are you really sure you have a custom recovery? Because the way you are descriping it, it sounds more like the stock recovery.
Lennyz1988 said:
These are really basic questions. I'm supprised you managed to flash a rom in the first place.
Full wipe in recovery, if you still could boot after wiping, like in your case, then you didn't wipe correctly. Your phone shouldn't be able to boot anymore after the wiping (because there is no more rom installed).
Then flash the rom. If there is no option for external storage (i think this is highly unlikely), then just copy it to your internal sd card and flash from there.
Are you really sure you have a custom recovery? Because the way you are descriping it, it sounds more like the stock recovery.
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Thanks for the advice. Checked using recovery tool and it says current firmware: stock.
How do I make a full wipe. And also what about the manual mode I get in the recovery mode.
Can mobile odin be used for flashing.
Again, these are really basic questions. You should read the forum more, my guess is you have a I9500, so start reading in that section. Read the parts about rooting, flashing a custom recovery and flashing.
All the information you need is there. I can tell you the exact steps you need to take, but figuring it out for yourself will save you lots of trouble in the furture if anything goes wrong.
I have no idea what manual mode is, so my guess is that you don't have a custom recovery installed. What is the name of the recovery? Or doesn't it display any name? You shouldn't be needing Mobile Odin, maybe only for rooting or flashing a custom recovery, but not for flashing the rom.
Lennyz1988 said:
Again, these are really basic questions. You should read the forum more, my guess is you have a I9500, so start reading in that section. Read the parts about rooting, flashing a custom recovery and flashing.
All the information you need is there. I can tell you the exact steps you need to take, but figuring it out for yourself will save you lots of trouble in the furture if anything goes wrong.
I have no idea what manual mode is, so my guess is that you don't have a custom recovery installed. What is the name of the recovery? Or doesn't it display any name? You shouldn't be needing Mobile Odin, maybe only for rooting or flashing a custom recovery, but not for flashing the rom.
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Had read the forum before flashing the rom. Rooted my phone and had installed CWM via Odin and confirmed it in the recovery mode. And only after this flashed the Arrow Rom and used it for couple of months.
Don't know what happened to CWM it wasn't there this time in recovery mode, it showed Android System Recovery and not CWM.
Anyway have flashed CWM again along with Crash Rom 11.
Thanks again bro.

[Q] [Newbie Question] In what order do I update recovery/rom/kernel/root

Heya,
After some months using stock rom decided I wanna juice it up.
I used to flash roms on my S2 a lot, but its been a while.
I see all kind of install instructions in threads saying I need to have root before I can install that or that, but currently my phone is not rooted.
I wiped it clean using factory reset, so I guess I am good to do.
What do I do first and how (download mode / just open up a zip from my phone)
The end goal is have a rooted phone with some neat rom (Currently downloaded Pardus HD Rom, but didn't install anything yet).
Thanks
1. Root using towelroot (run the downloaded *.apk, then install SuperSU)...
https://towelroot.com/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu
2. Install TWRP recovery using AutoRec...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2715496
3. Download ROM to your phones internal storage (this step can be done prior to rooting)
4. Install and use Quick Boot to boot to recovery...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.siriusapplications.quickboot
5. Install ROM from recovery
Note: If you'd rather use CWM recovery, then flash PhilZ Touch from TWRP...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554053
redduc900 said:
1. Root using towelroot (run the downloaded *.apk, then install SuperSU)...
https://towelroot.com/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu
2. Install TWRP recovery using AutoRec...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2715496
3. Download ROM to your phones internal storage (this step can be done prior to rooting)
4. Install and use Quick Boot to boot to recovery...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.siriusapplications.quickboot
5. Install ROM from recovery
Note: If you'd rather use CWM recovery, then flash PhilZ Touch from TWRP...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554053
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Can't express how helpful this post was, thanks a lot!
redduc900 said:
1. Root using towelroot (run the downloaded *.apk, then install SuperSU)...
https://towelroot.com/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu
2. Install TWRP recovery using AutoRec...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2715496
3. Download ROM to your phones internal storage (this step can be done prior to rooting)
4. Install and use Quick Boot to boot to recovery...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.siriusapplications.quickboot
5. Install ROM from recovery
Note: If you'd rather use CWM recovery, then flash PhilZ Touch from TWRP...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554053
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thanks for this, but I still have some doubts!
Should I do a nandroid backup if I ever want to go back to stock? or LG has another way of backing up?
My real question is, if I flash TWRP then If I have to go back to stock would it help to have a backup of my phone and just restore from TWRP? and when restoring the backup how I get the stock recovery?
thank you again
Creating a nandroid from recovery (TWRP, CWM, etc.), then restoring the backup, will not revert the phone back to "stock" condition. If you need to unroot and / or revert to stock recovery, then you'll need to use either the *.kdz or *.tot method to do so. A nandroid backup saves the following...
The operating system itself (so you can make a copy of your stock or custom ROM and return to it if desired)
All apps (including those you installed yourself or that came with the device)
All games and your progress in them
All pictures
All music
All videos
All text and picture messages
All wallpapers
All widgets
All ringtones
All login and account settings
All system settings
All stored passwords, including WiFi passwords
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What Is A Nandroid Backup and How Exactly Does It Work?
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/what-is-a-nandroid-backup-and-how-exactly-does-it-work/

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