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Battery life absolute trash?

So my N7 arrived two days ago, and I immediately unlocked, rooted, and flashed some things. Currently running Codename Android with Trinity Kernel.
My battery is absolute crap now though. Its been two days so I thought the battery more but have settled by now. All auto sync off, brightness at lowest setting, apps sync every 4 hours, still bad! Does calibrating still work? I read somewhere that it was debunked and it didn't work. I would appreciate any help. I mean, my Maxx is getting better battery life.
I uploaded some screenshots of the battery after only 1 and a half hours.
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dafuq?
My Battery life is without doing nothing ~1-2weeks (in my with 58% xD)
Use Stock Kernel

renes2 said:
dafuq?
My Battery life is without doing nothing ~1-2weeks (in my with 58% xD)
Use Stock Kernel
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Where can I find that to flash it?
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Aliceics said:
Where can I find that to flash it?
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Go to the motley kernel thread in Original Development. He provides a mirror link for the stock kernel
I loved Trinity and the TKT app but for some reason im getting much better battery life with motley kernel. I originally did some troubleshooting and fixed some apps that were causing wakelocks. My battery life got a little better but not by enough (could only get 3 or 4 hrs screen on) so i switched kernels.
If you feel like experimenting do this:
Nandroid
Wipe Cache + Dalvik
Wipe System
Factory Reset
Flash CM10 nightly (any rom of your choice)
Flash GApps
Flash motley kernel (i used the 484 GPU version)
Fix permissions
Reboot
I get awesome battery life now and performance is great.

Your title should be something like this: "After rooting and installing battery draining rom and kernel I get bad battery life on my N7"
Stock JB and kernel should yield decent batter life.
With the proper rom and kernel the Nexus 7 easily match or better the googles battery life claim.
FYI the latest Trinity kernel is a battery hog.

noobandriod said:
FYI the latest Trinity kernel is a battery hog.
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if you use it at 1.7ghz it will be, but thats obvious. at 1150mhz, its as quick and wonderful on batteries.

simms22 said:
if you use it at 1.7ghz it will be, but thats obvious. at 1150mhz, its as quick and wonderful on batteries.
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I wouldnt go as far as saying its a battery hog, but i ran the kernel at stock clocks and while performance was much better than stock i still had tons of drain that i now dont have with a different kernel.

Ran Trinity kernel at 1150mhz and had awful battery. Back on stock ROM and kernel and seems to have improved a lot.
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I feel like the battery is pretty decent...
Get off those custom Roms and kernels until you understand how the device is meant to perform.

You appear to have 87% after 1.5 hours, that equals about 10 hours, how is that bad? I get about 8 hours if I am intensely playing with screens, apps and games, 2 days if I'm not doing much. Loses 2% at night with wifi off. No root.

trinity kernel and the pure aosp rom, at 1150mhz. id say not bad at all..

Trinity Kernel is a good kernel. I went overboard by saying it was a battery hog. I did have it overclocked up to 1500hz on-demand and it ate up battery faster then I would like. But this is with the newest one, a few of the older ones worked out better for me though.

noobandriod said:
Trinity Kernel is a good kernel. I went overboard by saying it was a battery hog. I did have it overclocked up to 1500hz on-demand and it ate up battery faster then I would like. But this is with the newest one, a few of the older ones worked out better for me though.
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yea, overclocking is mostly for fun, definitely not for battery life

640k said:
Get off those custom Roms and kernels until you understand how the device is meant to perform.
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I have some problems with *wakelock*

Best Kernel for battery

Which ROM performs the best in terms of battery performance. If you are using any Governor and I/O setting please do mention them.

PA rom...Franco kernel...ondemand settings...

I'm also curious on what you guys experienced.
I'm currently testing Franco R15 with Stock JB on my Nexus 4. It's the first day and I'm running for 9 hours with 1h 46M of screen time.
So I'm expecting about 3h 30m of screen time.
Will give it a fews days and report back. Then I'll try out Matr1x.

Please use search next time because there are threads with the same exact title. No such thing as a best kernel. It is subjective such as if you were to ask the question, what is the best car for conserving gas usage.
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My first cycle (settings on signature) gave me almost 4hs of screen time.
Trying second cycle today.

calanizzle said:
My first cycle (settings on signature) gave me almost 4hs of screen time.
Trying second cycle today.
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your sig is wrong, unless you are running 4.1.2?

calanizzle said:
My first cycle (settings on signature) gave me almost 4hs of screen time.
Trying second cycle today.
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4.1.2????
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This is what I'm getting constantly and I'm running Stock everything/rooted... not sure if I would leave stock with these numbers I'm getting... Anyone getting better numbers with custom ROM/kernel
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fresh_TD said:
This is what I'm getting constantly and I'm running Stock everything/rooted... not sure if I would leave stock with these numbers I'm getting... Anyone getting better numbers with custom ROM/kernel
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That's really good. I'm getting 4 hours 45 min running Xylon 012 with Matr1x 3.0
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Jefferyrbrown1983 said:
That's really good. I'm getting 4 hours 45 min running Xylon 012 with Matr1x 3.0
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I'm going to give francos kernel a run to see if I can squeeze a little more out the battery
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I'm on Stock rooted using Franco's R15 kernel since a couple of days. Every charge cycle brings a slight improvement. Will test the kernel for a week and then flash Matrix's kernel and compare.

Thanks for letting us know.
Sent from a galaxy far far away.

Wish I had better battery life
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for best battery : CM10.1 + faux kernel (the last beta) + intellidemand + UV -150mv .
+5h00 screen on

fresh_TD said:
This is what I'm getting constantly and I'm running Stock everything/rooted... not sure if I would leave stock with these numbers I'm getting... Anyone getting better numbers with custom ROM/kernel
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So ~5 hours screen time. And you got 1.4 days on WiFi with hardly any awake time. That's not really a good measure of battery life.
I don't know about everyone else, but I find the Nexus 4 gets really good battery life. Maybe not as good as the GSIII or the H1X+, but those have tremendously aggressive power-saving features.
Using faux kernel with Snake Charmer (caps max freq on all 4 cores) and Eco Mode (only allows 2 cores to be simultaneously active) provides adequate performance with very good battery life; even better if you undervolt. You will definitely beat the GS3 or H1X+ with those faux kernel settings. I don't use Eco Mode, because my phone lasts nearly a day, and I can charge it mid-day. I should probably be more conservative so I won't have to replace the battery as soon, buttphuckit, I do what I want.

I've used faux, Franco, motley, and Matr1x a lot. As of now, the best battery with performance goes to Matr1x by Mathkid. Version 2.5 undervolts by 150, which my phone runs fine. However, a few people had instability because it was too low for their devices. Enter v3.0, which undervolts by 100 (and you can uv even more using System Tuner or perhaps Faux app). Either way, great battery life (I routinely get 5 hours screen time with 16 hours battery time, or 4 hours screen with 24 hours total, etc).
Absolute best battery life is probably faux with his battery optimized settings (1.35 max speed, snake charmer, eco mode, and some undervolt by 100 or so). It runs fairly well, but it's not as quick and smooth as stock because it sacrifices some of that for battery (fair trade off if you need it because it's still a damn fast phone). People have gotten 6 and even 7 hours screen time. Obviously this won't happen playing games but it's possible with light browsing and texting and whatnot.
Motley's kernel also gets good battery and excellent performance. Franco's kernel does too, but not quite as good of battery because it doesn't support undervolting YET. When it does, it might be the best battery for performance of all (likely).
I use Matr1x daily and am happy with it. Some people, even smart devs, will sometimes tell you undervolt battery gain is negligible. However, at least with this device, it can make a huge difference because it handles such a big undervolt while remaining stable. It also stays much cooler and will run at high clocks longer before reaching the thermal throttling limit.
Anyway, some people might disagree, but these are my experiences. Franco has a huge following and for good reasons. His kernels are awesome. I just don't think the battery life will compete until he adds undervolting. He has said this will come when he feels it is stable and good overall. I'll probably switch then unless Mathkid adds more features to his like gamma control, etc.
Hope this is helpful. Btw, another thing I really like about Matr1x kernel is that he uses the older touchscreen driver which increases screen sensitivity. Many people complain about the nexus 4 screen sensitivity, and if that applies to you, this will fix that.
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^^ A good write up, deserved its thanks. Am on latest rasbean & matr1x, never experienced smoothness & battery life like this. Screenshots at the Matr1x thread later today.
However, all users are different. Battery life WILL differ, that's the only certain thing.

Am I The Only One ....

...Who seems to be getting worse battery life since I've rooted and installed CM10 and Franco Kernel than stock.
Before with stock I was only losing about 1% every two hours on standby (sometimes even better I've no idea how)
Now I'm losing about 3% an hour on standby and also about 30% an hour screen time with just basic browsing (Screen brightness set to auto).
Also Media server is hammering my battery. Like I lost 3% battery in 15 mins without the screen on just playing music (not streaming) is that normal, I've come from an iphone 4s which didn't lose that in an hour :S
have i flashed it badly is there something else maybe i should try or are these stats about right ????
thanks guys

That's just the way it is just custom roms. When flashing, put your head between your legs and pray for the best. You can spend hours trying to figure out what's gone wrong, but you might never get an answer.

You can try underclocking your N4. Currently my dual-core Snapdragon S3 T-Mo Galaxy S2 is underclocked to 810MHz from 1.5GHz and performance is still great. I'm guessing you can UC your N4 to at least 1.2-1GHz and performance will still be great because of the quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro CPU. Also, what governor and i/o are you using?
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Hi Gents
Thanks for the reply, yeah it does seem a bit of a hit and miss kinda situation, I'm not masively bothered, im hoping eventually someone will stumple across a fix for the way the screen murders the battery life but im not holding my breath. Still love the phone, really getting used to it now, have tried (and failed) many times to switch to android, must be honest, this is the closest I've come so far to waving bye bye to ios, android is really really fantastic as an os, it's also super pretty to look at these days, stock apps like contacts, calender and the phone app itself are beautiful.

Let the phone and battery have several cycles, it will improve, eventually

thanks mate !!

android88 said:
You can try underclocking your N4. Currently my dual-core Snapdragon S3 T-Mo Galaxy S2 is underclocked to 810MHz from 1.5GHz and performance is still great. I'm guessing you can UC your N4 to at least 1.2-1GHz and performance will still be great because of the quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro CPU. Also, what governor and i/o are you using?
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Under clocking your phone isn't a viable situation. It's a phone, what's the point in it if you're not going to use it to your fullest when my phone lasts through the whole day going from 384-1500?
Some battery tips for op:
- download better battery stats (Google it for a xda version) use this to debug wakelock and ensure your phone is deep sleeping under cpu states. You can also use cpu spy to check cpu stats. Better battery stats is a must need.
- disable Google latitude in maps. Disable the automatic reporting and any other checked marks
- disable Google now cards that you have no use for
- disable gps (some apps use gps and drains battery when it keeps using gps when it isn't necessary)
- ensure your governor is interactive and on latest version of Franco (r20 is very good)
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Just stick with the stock kernel that comes with cm10.

peachpuff said:
Just stick with the stock kernel that comes with cm10.
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Highly advise doing that. Other kernels are way more optimized whereas CM is focused on the ROM itself and not optimizing the stock kernel.
I believe CM10 uses stock Google kernel anyways (could be wrong).
Use Franco Kernel or anybody elses kernel that you choose to.

Mine definitely improved after rooting and flashing custom ROM. Battery life when I was still stock was horrible.

m3lover1 said:
Mine definitely improved after rooting and flashing custom ROM. Battery life when I was still stock was horrible.
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Kernel is what makes battery life better, not a ROM.

zephiK said:
Kernel is what makes battery life better, not a ROM.
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A rom can make the battery life better as well...

AshtonTS said:
A rom can make the battery life better as well...
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A ROM has very minimal battery life improvements, it isn't as significant as a kernel. Hence the definition of "better"

[Q] The most battery friendly ROM???

Hello, I just wanted to ask which ROM has the longest battery life (in screen hours)...
The most battery frienly rom i have ever tried was liquidsmooth...
What do you think?

Guys please help out a new N4'er like myself. I'm stock right now and the number of Roms are kinda overwhelming. I'm only interested in battery life. I'm not in the mood to go flashaholic searching for that one ROM.
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The most important thing is the kernel and the apps you have installed.
Find the ROM with the features you like and flash a battery friendly kernel. I currently use Matrix kernel because the lower CPU idle makes the phone sip battery while the screen is off, leaving you more for actual use.
Good luck. Also, INB4L.

There is no "best Rom" for battery. It's all in how you use your phone, what apps you use, the signal strength in your area and of course the kernel you flash and how you set that kernel up.
100 different people could reply with the Rom they feel is best for battery and which kernel and you still may have different results than they do
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From what I've learnt the kernel directly dictates battery life.
but I've personally opted for lean roms. If you're using a heavy rom and frequently putting load on the processor surely the battery will burn down fast. I've been using rasbeanjelly bouncing between franco/trinity and the battery life has been awesome for me.
Btw franco's r121 is godlike for me right now, in terms of both performance and battery life.

Im using liquidsmooth which comes with matrix kernel in the official release.
Im getting very good battery life probably because the cpu min is lowered to 288mhz instead of the normal 384.
Performance on the rom is great also with antutu scores over 20000
Ive tried francos, for some reason it didnt quite work for me but it is very popular because of the great balance between battery and performance. Youll get even more battery life out of faux and if you want blazing fast speeds try out trinity

Battery depends on the kernel, not on the rom.

Battery life depends on a number of factors, kernel being one of them. If you set your screen brightness at maximum high, you will see battery drain like water down the toilet. Screen brightness is the single major factor. Kernels don't really matter. It's the apps you install and run on your phone that can kill battery life. Apps like Facebook will suck down your battery like there's no tomorrow. Auto sync'ing and pushing and pulling data to and from your phone will make your battery life go down really fast. GPS and using google maps can contribute mightily to your battery woes as well.
To keep your phone from dying, just get an external battery pack and charge your phone as necessary. I have a 5400 mAh pack that can charge my n4 at least a couple of times. I never worry about running out of battery and I use my phone the way it's supposed to be used.

Underground_XI said:
Battery depends on the kernel, not on the rom.
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Battery does depend on the rom...
For example a linaro compiled rom will require less work of the cpu to move the os due the optimization.
Also some rom have init.d scripts that can help battery life a lot and there is the possibility that some programs like systemUI can have a little bug that the user dont know about it but its draining battery
The battery life depends on a lot of factors of the rom

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Battery depends on the kernel, not on the rom.
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You are completely wrong. As said before, battery life depends on a lot of things. The kernel is a big factor, but not everything. The way u use ur cpu, the scripts u apply or ur build.prop configurarion can be very decissive.
IMHO paranoidandroid 3.1 is the most battery saving ROM
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ROM with best battery life?

Coming from an LG G2 (long story), battery life is what I miss the most. The nexus 4 has about half the screen on time than my g2 did.
I'm already unlocked and rooted but still stock ROM. Are there any Roms that significantly improve battery life?

I found smart 3G on Cataclysm to be pretty good at saving battery.

ROMs and kernels have little to do with battery. Your usage, signal for mobile data and WiFi, screen brightness, your configuration for location services, gps and the like and your apps determine your battery life.

brian85 said:
Coming from an LG G2 (long story), battery life is what I miss the most. The nexus 4 has about half the screen on time than my g2 did.
I'm already unlocked and rooted but still stock ROM. Are there any Roms that significantly improve battery life?
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I'd try Paranoid. I used it for a while after using stock and I found that the battery improved.

roms have absolutely zilch when it comes to battery life. only thing rims can do with battery is reduce it. generally, the more added mods/features a rom has, the worse the battery life. but not always. battery life is determined by hiw you personally use your phone, how you set it uo, what apps you use, and the quality of your phone/data connection. everything else, including kernels, have a very minimum effect on battery.

Well
When I was with Carbon, the play store thing killed my battery to 3hrs on screen time
Switched over to Purity Rom with Hells kernel and I have 5-6 on screen time
WiFi on all the time, no data or GPS or Bluetooth.
Mostly Reddit and a game or two, and a movie

Not the Rom but the Kernel is decisive

Nuhro said:
Not the Rom but the Kernel is decisive
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Kernel doesn't make much of a difference either. See simms22 post above
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jd1639 said:
Kernel doesn't make much of a difference either. See simms22 post above
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Okay, but why is the battery life better with an another kernel?
I use the HeelsCreed kernel and Mahdi rom. My battery life is better with the HeelsCreed kernel as with the Kernel of the Mahdi rom.
P.S.: I know my english is bad, sorry for that

Nuhro said:
Okay, but why is the battery life better with an another kernel?
I use the HeelsCreed kernel and Mahdi rom. My battery life is better with the HeelsCreed kernel as with the Kernel of the Mahdi rom.
P.S.: I know my english is bad, sorry for that
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set up your CPU and everything else just how the kernel sets it up for you, and you'll get the same battery life. be more active, set things up manually.

brian85 said:
Coming from an LG G2 (long story), battery life is what I miss the most. The nexus 4 has about half the screen on time than my g2 did.
I'm already unlocked and rooted but still stock ROM. Are there any Roms that significantly improve battery life?
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can you tell the story please , anyway ROM has weee little to do with battery life , its mostly on how you use it and the kernel you are using as well as sync loops and dodgy leaky apps , my personal setup is rom = paranoid android and kernel = hellsdoctor , using synapse app i switched the maximum clock speed to 1.2 Ghz , and changed the maximum core online to two, gpu is overclocked by default , rest is, location settings are turned off only turned on when required , brightness is set to 50 % , no dodgy apps on the phone , i can squeeze about 5 and half hours sometimes 6 its good enough for this battery size though and hope it works out for you :good: