The discussion I am searching for comes closest in the old "Holy Mother of Bloatware Batman" thread and I almost replied into it to ask for reports from folks who have done what I have and went a step further and actually uninstalled the system apps instead of just freezing them.
I have AT&T S4 and used Adam Outler's "Casual" tool to get root and TWRP recovery and have a 3.56 GB image of my device that I can restore saved in the phone and another copy on the SD card and also a copy saved on the PC. I did the backup in the custom recovery. I like the "windows" theme of TWRP as compared to CWM. Performing the backup took a little while but worked fine.
Then I installed Titanium Backup and started freezing system apps, and the long list looks similar to what's displayed in the OP in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249581 "Holy mother of bloatware batman" thread.
I've been using the handset with out any problems for over two weeks now. I was even amused to follow up reading an alert I saw from the NRA and installed the Gun Geo Marker app from the Play store. I read all the horrible establishment propaganda in the app description, and then explored the app itself and discovered an error because I have something frozen. I was able to send in the error report and I included my free and independent thoughts in the error report, on how important it is for all of us to keep and bear arms to prevent the very tyranny they're pushing (as if I were making a difference LOL).
All of the important apps I use like Root Explorer work just fine.
And thank goodness I was alert and had AT&T's software update frozen, otherwise that unrootable update would have pushed into my handset over the airwaves.
I've been searching around here for the best place to discuss actually uninstalling these system apps using Titanium Backup so I thought I'd start this new thread. In yet another thread I found using "search" I saw someone state that using the function in Titanium Backup to uninstall these system apps I have frozen does not free up any memory! Is this true?
Here's what I have frozen and have been just fine living without so far:
Adapt Sound 1.0
AT&T DriveMode 1.0.2.4
AT&T FamilyMap 1.3
AT&T Hot Spots 0.970w
AT&T Locker 1.1.5
AT&T Messages 1.0.0.11
AT&T Navigator 3.2.3.7230056
AT&T Smart Wi-Fi 1.0
AT&T Software update V42_1_1303_5_1
BlurbCheckout 1.0 (Build 64)
Bubbles 1.0
ChatON 2.6.0
ChatON V 1.0.1.0
ChocEUKor 1.0
Chrome 25.0.1364.169
Com2uSPoker 1.2.5
CoolEUKor 1.0
Flipboard 1.9.27
Google Play Books 2.7.39
Google Play Magazines 1.3.0
Google Play Movies & TV 2.4.1.4
Google Play Music 4.5.9141.590354
Google+ 3.6.0.44338848
Group Play 2.0.253
Match3VS 1.0.117
Mobile TV 2.0
myAT&T 3.4
Picasa Uploader 1.3.242047
S Health 1.5.4.5
S Memo 2.17.422276
S Note Provider 13.01.6000
Samsung Apps 2.13.052
Samsung Apps Widget 1.01.36
Samsung Books 1.00.040601.4
Samsung Calendar SyncAdapter 1.2
Samsung Games 1.00.040401.5
Samsung Hub 1.00.040603.1
Samsung Knox 1.0
Samsung Link 1.6.0405
Samsung Music 1.00.040600.2
Samsung Print Service 1.0.1025
Samsung Push Service 1.1.10
Samsung SBrowser Bookmark SyncAdapter 1.1
Samsung SBrowser Tab SyncAdapter 1.2
Samsung SNote SyncAdapter 1.2
Samsung Syncadapters 2.5.6
SNS 1.1.0
Story Album 1.0
Story Album Widget 1.0
Swype 1.4.11.14567
Talk 4.2.1-552002
TalkBack 3.2.1
Travel 1.0
TripAdvisor 3.0.1
Yahoo! Finance 130406.01
Yahoo! News 13.04.01.01
YPMobile 3.10
Last week I got an error about displaying HTML 5 when I was going to share the video about the $100,000,000 penny embedded in my webpage http://lango.us but it was an isolated incident. My handset has been up for weeks and after rebooting it this morning I tested that and it worked fine.
Also note that I do not participate in Facebook and I'm sure some users would not want to shut off quite as much as I have kept frozen with Titanium Backup.
I saw in another thread that using Titanium to delete these does not free up any memory. My hope is those that have been more bold to go where I have never gone before could report their experience. So far I suspect that I am right where I want to be, just keeping them frozen. I realize a custom rom will free up phone memory, just to clarify.
I've flashed plenty of handsets, but I don't want to hear about a custom rom for the S4 if I lose all the giggles I get from the Universal Remote in WatchOn.
Is there no benefit to downright deleting? Sounds like the consensus is just to keep them frozen. I saw another post that indicated to just delete it as it can be re installed from the Playstore.
I bet I can free up some space with Root Explorer, but I KNOW I'll be flashing my backup image repeatedly if I start experimenting with that! I would love to hear from someone a little further along than I am. Thank you. There's got to be someone who's tried this, and can list certain files or even entire folders I can delete from the root of the S4.
fukenbiker said:
The discussion I am searching for comes closest in the old "Holy Mother of Bloatware Batman" thread and I almost replied into it to ask for reports from folks who have done what I have and went a step further and actually uninstalled the system apps instead of just freezing them.
I have AT&T S4 and used Adam Outler's "Casual" tool to get root and TWRP recovery and have a 3.56 GB image of my device that I can restore saved in the phone and another copy on the SD card and also a copy saved on the PC. I did the backup in the custom recovery. I like the "windows" theme of TWRP as compared to CWM. Performing the backup took a little while but worked fine.
Then I installed Titanium Backup and started freezing system apps, and the long list looks similar to what's displayed in the OP in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249581 "Holy mother of bloatware batman" thread.
I've been using the handset with out any problems for over two weeks now. I was even amused to follow up reading an alert I saw from the NRA and installed the Gun Geo Marker app from the Play store. I read all the horrible establishment propaganda in the app description, and then explored the app itself and discovered an error because I have something frozen. I was able to send in the error report and I included my free and independent thoughts in the error report, on how important it is for all of us to keep and bear arms to prevent the very tyranny they're pushing (as if I were making a difference LOL).
All of the important apps I use like Root Explorer work just fine.
And thank goodness I was alert and had AT&T's software update frozen, otherwise that unrootable update would have pushed into my handset over the airwaves.
I've been searching around here for the best place to discuss actually uninstalling these system apps using Titanium Backup so I thought I'd start this new thread. In yet another thread I found using "search" I saw someone state that using the function in Titanium Backup to uninstall these system apps I have frozen does not free up any memory! Is this true?
Here's what I have frozen and have been just fine living without so far:
Adapt Sound 1.0
AT&T DriveMode 1.0.2.4
AT&T FamilyMap 1.3
AT&T Hot Spots 0.970w
AT&T Locker 1.1.5
AT&T Messages 1.0.0.11
AT&T Navigator 3.2.3.7230056
AT&T Smart Wi-Fi 1.0
AT&T Software update V42_1_1303_5_1
BlurbCheckout 1.0 (Build 64)
Bubbles 1.0
ChatON 2.6.0
ChatON V 1.0.1.0
ChocEUKor 1.0
Chrome 25.0.1364.169
Com2uSPoker 1.2.5
CoolEUKor 1.0
Flipboard 1.9.27
Google Play Books 2.7.39
Google Play Magazines 1.3.0
Google Play Movies & TV 2.4.1.4
Google Play Music 4.5.9141.590354
Google+ 3.6.0.44338848
Group Play 2.0.253
Match3VS 1.0.117
Mobile TV 2.0
myAT&T 3.4
Picasa Uploader 1.3.242047
S Health 1.5.4.5
S Memo 2.17.422276
S Note Provider 13.01.6000
Samsung Apps 2.13.052
Samsung Apps Widget 1.01.36
Samsung Books 1.00.040601.4
Samsung Calendar SyncAdapter 1.2
Samsung Games 1.00.040401.5
Samsung Hub 1.00.040603.1
Samsung Knox 1.0
Samsung Link 1.6.0405
Samsung Music 1.00.040600.2
Samsung Print Service 1.0.1025
Samsung Push Service 1.1.10
Samsung SBrowser Bookmark SyncAdapter 1.1
Samsung SBrowser Tab SyncAdapter 1.2
Samsung SNote SyncAdapter 1.2
Samsung Syncadapters 2.5.6
SNS 1.1.0
Story Album 1.0
Story Album Widget 1.0
Swype 1.4.11.14567
Talk 4.2.1-552002
TalkBack 3.2.1
Travel 1.0
TripAdvisor 3.0.1
Yahoo! Finance 130406.01
Yahoo! News 13.04.01.01
YPMobile 3.10
Last week I got an error about displaying HTML 5 when I was going to share the video about the $100,000,000 penny embedded in my webpage http://lango.us but it was an isolated incident. My handset has been up for weeks and after rebooting it this morning I tested that and it worked fine.
Also note that I do not participate in Facebook and I'm sure some users would not want to shut off quite as much as I have kept frozen with Titanium Backup.
I saw in another thread that using Titanium to delete these does not free up any memory. My hope is those that have been more bold to go where I have never gone before could report their experience. So far I suspect that I am right where I want to be, just keeping them frozen. I realize a custom rom will free up phone memory, just to clarify.
I've flashed plenty of handsets, but I don't want to hear about a custom rom for the S4 if I lose all the giggles I get from the Universal Remote in WatchOn.
Is there no benefit to downright deleting? Sounds like the consensus is just to keep them frozen. I saw another post that indicated to just delete it as it can be re installed from the Playstore.
I bet I can free up some space with Root Explorer, but I KNOW I'll be flashing my backup image repeatedly if I start experimenting with that! I would love to hear from someone a little further along than I am. Thank you. There's got to be someone who's tried this, and can list certain files or even entire folders I can delete from the root of the S4.
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I always backup all the apps bloatware apps that I delete... If there frozen and have no issues deleting them will not change that...
You'll gain a little usable storage space but not much.. The reason why is the way the phone is partitioned... It was always have close to the same amount of usyable storage give or take a GB or 2 unless someone figures out a way to repartition the phone without turning it into a paperweight...
I've run multiple modified touchwiz Roms and aosp/aokp/Google edition Roms and even though they're smaller usuable storage remains roughly the same..
RAM however does free up some as well with the custom Roms
Sent from my Omega AT&T S4
rcklss1 said:
I always backup all the apps bloatware apps that I delete... If there frozen and have no issues deleting them will not change that...
You'll gain a little usable storage space but not much.. The reason why is the way the phone is partitioned... It was always have close to the same amount of usyable storage give or take a GB or 2 unless someone figures out a way to repartition the phone without turning it into a paperweight...
I've run multiple modified touchwiz Roms and aosp/aokp/Google edition Roms and even though they're smaller usuable storage remains roughly the same..
RAM however does free up some as well with the custom Roms
Sent from my Omega AT&T S4
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Thank you for explaining the partition details. Root explorer can delete what's in those partitions which is a good way to get a brick.
you have been very helpful and I will stick with Titanium Backup to make as much room as I can on my handset and I will stay away from root explorer
using root explorer to make room on the handset would be hazardous for even one who understood what all that stuff was in there
fukenbiker said:
Thank you for explaining the partition details. Root explorer can delete what's in those partitions which is a good way to get a brick.
you have been very helpful and I will stick with Titanium Backup to make as much room as I can on my handset and I will stay away from root explorer
using root explorer to make room on the handset would be hazardous for even one who understood what all that stuff was in there
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Root explorer is safe if your CAREFUL lol.. I use root explorer as my only file manager but I only delete through tibu so I have a backup.. Root explorer can be a very powerful and helpful tool.. Again just gotta be careful
Sent from my Omega AT&T S4
rcklss1 said:
Root explorer is safe if your CAREFUL lol.. I use root explorer as my only file manager but I only delete through tibu so I have a backup.. Root explorer can be a very powerful and helpful tool.. Again just gotta be careful
Sent from my Omega AT&T S4
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Root explorer is my favorite file tool because you can do anything with it but like you said I am going to stick with titanium backup and I am being careful thanks.
if there is anyone out there who has successfully deleted a large file off the root of their phone without it becoming a brick I would like them to find this thread and give me the names of what I can get rid of
Amd just to clarify...uninstalling system apps will give you no useable space...unless you start pushing all your apps to the system partition.
No matter what you will be stuck with ~9gb of useable storage you had when you booted up your s4 for the first time. And it will remain this way until a dev remaps our partition...which wont happen until we have a true bootloader unlock.
So ill end with this, uninstalling the apps you have already frozen will not affect anything...your performance will remain the same, there shouldnt be any new errors...you should be safe to uninstall everything youve already frozen since you havent experienced issues with them frozen
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
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fukenbiker said:
Root explorer is my favorite file tool because you can do anything with it but like you said I am going to stick with titanium backup and I am being careful thanks.
if there is anyone out there who has successfully deleted a large file off the root of their phone without it becoming a brick I would like them to find this thread and give me the names of what I can get rid of
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Read above...there really isnt any point in deleting large root files
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
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Now that root has been established and titanium is available to use, what apps are people safely removing/freezing? My last rom was on the Note 2 so a lot has changed since then for me. I assume there's a S5 list around that we can use as a base.
Edit: The list can be found on post 3.
joshuar9476 said:
Now that root has been established and titanium is available to use, what apps are people safely removing/freezing? My last rom was on the Note 2 so a lot has changed since then for me. I assume there's a S5 list around that we can use as a base.
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I'd also like to know this coming from the note 2. ?I like some of the samsung / sprint feel but i dont need it at the cost of unresponsiveness when it runs out of resources
What I have personally done:
Stock apps deleted from app manager:
1 Weather
Amazon Preloader
App Pass
Chrome (installed Chrome Beta .. actually had to uninstall Chrome in Titanium)
Ebay
FamilyWall for Sprint
Messaging+
NASCAR mobile 2014
NBA Game Time
NextRadio
Scout
Spotify
Sprint-Featured Apps
Sprint Music Plus
Sprint TV & Movies
Sprint Worldwide
Uninstalled from Titanium:
Active applications 2.1.1
BlurbCheckout 1.0
Bubbles 1.0
ChocoEUKor 1.11.56913.118627
Clock (digital easy) 1.0.73981.149261
Clock (digital) 1.0.68078.138841
Dropbox 2.4.5.10
Dual Clock (digital) 1.0
Email 4.4.2.0400 (I only use Gmail)
Exchange services 4.4.2.0100 (backed up)
Favorite Contacts 1.0
Flipboard 2.4.0
Google Play Books 3.1.49
Google Play Games 1.6.07
Google Play Movies & TV 3.3.33
Google Play Music 5.6.1623P
Google Play Newsstand 3.3
Google+ 4.6.0.76970369
Hangouts 2.3.75731955
Help 1.0.0 (backed up)
HP Print Service
Internet 2.0.341100600.89011 (use Chrome Beta)
Launcher 1.0 (use Nova)
Live weather 1.0
Lookout Security 8.35.3-347a1b6
Phase beam 1.0
Photo Screensavers
Samsung Calendar SyncAdapter (backed up)
Samsung Cloud Data Relay (backed up)
Samsung Cloud Quota (backed up)
Samsung Contact SyncAdapter (backed up)
Samsung Memo SyncAdapter (backed up)
Samsung Push Service (backed up)
Samsung Syncadapters (backed up)
Samsung SBrowser SyncAdapter (backed up)
Swype 1.7.9.30068
TalkBack 3.5.1 (backed up)
Travel Wallpaper 1.0.13429
TouchWiz easy home 1.0 (Nova)
TouchWiz home 1.0 (Nova)
Frozen from Titanium:
AllShare FileShare Service 2.1
ANT HAL Service 3.0.0
ANT Radio Service 4.7.0
ANT+ Plugins Service 3.1.0
Briefing 1.0.0
Connections Optimizer 3.0.9.14
Connections Optimizer Updater 2.1.4.0
EmergencyManagerService 4.4.4 (per hermeticist) - interferes with enabling Ultra Power Saving mode and can possibly cause brick
Evernote 5.8.5
Galaxy Apps 14093005.02.008.1
Knox 2.2.0
Knox Notification Manager 2.2.2
Knox SetupWizardClient 2.2.0
Mobile Installer 4.1.01.
Messages 4.4.4 (use Textra)
Nearby Devices 2.1
Nearby Service 2.1
NFC Service 4.4.4
Samsung Account 2.1.0014
Samsung DM Service 1.10.10
Samsung Galaxy Apps Widget
Sprint ID 2.0.23
Sprint Zone 4.7.019
I will update this as I go forward.
Put this list in the OP, and then just update the OP as people contribute more safe things to install - that way people don't need to scroll through the thread to find everything and it can all be in one place.
Great work on having the initiative to start this - these are always useful especially before there's a lot roms out that already take it all out/for people who like to customize their own stock.
*Probably should just change title to
Removable Sprint/Samsung Bloatware or something since you already got started on the list
Sent from my SM-N910P using XDA Free mobile app
Out of paranoia, I just freeze instead of uninstalling. My $. 02.
The more I play with this rom, the more I like the multitasking features like expanding windows. Also like one handed mode.
I would love to be able to replace the notification quick settings with AOSP quick settings, and get an AOSP lockscreen, and AOSP phone and contacts. in a custom Rom
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Basically get all AOSP features and keeping TouchWiz innovation.
I feel that if we could get rid of any Samsung market tracking apps, this phone would be even better!
monkey3ddd said:
Out of paranoia, I just freeze instead of uninstalling. My $. 02.
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I get that. The programs I uninstalled I have uninstalled for many devices and roms in the past. I just finally purchased the pro version of Titanium so I'm starting to freeze more and add those to the list. Once I see no problems after a few weeks I'll back them up and remove them.
Can:
klms agenT
My interests
My places
be frozen or removed?
hermeticist said:
Can:
klms agenT
My interests
My places
be frozen or removed?
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I have the KLMS Agent on freeze, no issues...make sure to freeze com.sec.enterprise.knox.attestation too....
Edit: found New Registration and RCPComponets are Knox related, froze both, got hung up on Sprint splash screen, had to do a battery pull ( not 100% sure its related as I had done other things) but rebooted fine and running with both froze...
jauger said:
I have the KLMS Agent on freeze, no issues...make sure to freeze com.sec.enterprise.knox.attestation too....
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hermeticist said:
Can:
klms agenT
My interests
My places
be frozen or removed?
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I added these to the list
How about emergency manager service?
hermeticist said:
How about emergency manager service?
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Something keeps throwing an emergency manager service error at me when I restart so let's freeze it.
Me too.
For those of you who have rooted your device and Titanium Backup can not access "Backup Folder" (can not uninstall apps), you can simply change the default backup location in the settings. Change it to something that is writable.
Since I wanted to write to the SD card I had to install the SDFix app to allow Titatium Backup to write to the SD Card where I wanted and it allowed me to uninstall apps from then there after.
I didn't have an sd card problem.
ES file explorer, and titanium backup recognized the external card right off the bat.
The only app that is acting weird is Dolphin browser refusing to let me change external sd download directories.
gpvlog said:
For those of you who have rooted your device and Titanium Backup can not access "Backup Folder" (can not uninstall apps), you can simply change the default backup location in the settings. Change it to something that is writable.
Since I wanted to write to the SD card I had to install the SDFix app to allow Titatium Backup to write to the SD Card where I wanted and it allowed me to uninstall apps from then there after.
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I too downloaded SDFix and backed up to my SDCard
What does the Amazon Preloader actually preload?
Is the connections optimizer bloat? Or is there a bug in it, it keeps shutting off location services randomly. I get it may be trying to save battery live but when you over 30% over 50% and over 80% i don't see why i keep getting notices location info was turned off. I think it still "may" serve a purpose of optimizing lte over wifi if the wifi is a poor connection and i have a strong lte spot but not sure.
Fangs87 said:
Is the connections optimizer bloat? Or is there a bug in it, it keeps shutting off location services randomly. I get it may be trying to save battery live but when you over 30% over 50% and over 80% i don't see why i keep getting notices location info was turned off. I think it still "may" serve a purpose of optimizing lte over wifi if the wifi is a poor connection and i have a strong lte spot but not sure.
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I did some research and found you can disable it from within the phone under settings/more networks/moble networks ... I went ahead and added it to the freeze list.
Yea i saw that also i was trying to avoid disabling it but it notifying me every so often it shut things down now i need to turn it back on to do something is annoying
Sent from my SM-N910P using XDA Free mobile app
NOTICE: I HAVE PERSONALLY TESTED THE DELETION OF THESE APPS USING TITANIUM BACKUP WITH NO SYSTEM ISSUES. HOWEVER, I TAKE NO LIABILITY SHOULD ANYTHING GO WRONG. ALWAYS BACK UP YOUR DEVICE, AND DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK! SUGGESTIONS ARE WELCOME AND WILL BE ADDED TO THE ALPHABETICALLY ORDERED LIST
AFTER YOU DEBLOAT, YOU MAY LOSE SCREEN ROTATION. THE FIX IS EASY AND OUTLINED HERE
RED = LOSS OF PRIMARY SYSTEM FUNCTIONS (Ex: Screen Rotation)
GREEN = LOSS OF RELATED SYSTEM FUNCTIONS ONLY (Ex: Touchwiz Launcher, Knox)
WHITE = LOSS / REMOVAL OF APP ONLY (SELF CONTAINED. Ex: Flipboard)
Safe To Remove
AllShare FileShare Service
ANT+ DUT --------------------------------------------| The ANT list of services relate to health / fitness tracking equipment that do not use bluetooth. Do not remove if you use these kinds of items
ANT HAL Service -------------------------------------Same as above
ANT Radio Service -----------------------------------Same as above
ANT+ Plugins Service--------------------------------Same as above
App Widget
Backup and Restore
Backup and Restore Agent
Basic Daydreams
BBCAgent
Briefing
Bubbles --------------------------------------------------A live wallpaper
Car Mode ------------------------------------------------Samsung Car Mode Feature
CarModeRemote ---------------------------------------Related To Car Mode Feature
ChocoEUKor --------------------------------------------Custom font, I use the stock one
Clock (Digital) ------------------------------------------TouchWiz Widget, I use Nova Launcher
Clock (Digital_easy) ----------------------------------TouchWiz Widget, I use Nova Launcher
CoolEUKor ----------------------------------------------Custom Font
Drive
Dropbox
Dual Clock (Digital) -----------------------------------Touchwiz Widget, Not Applicable To Other Launchers (Like Nova)
Easy settings -------------------------------------------Dumbed-down settings for the technologically illiterate customer buying a Note 4
Email -----------------------------------------------------I use the GMail app
Evernote
Facebook
Flipboard
Galaxy Apps
Galaxy Apps Widget
Gear VR Service
Gear VR SetupWizardStub
Gear VR Shell
Google Play Books
Google Play Games
Google Play Movies
Google Play Music
Google Play Newsstand
Google+
Hancom Office 2014
Hangouts -----------------------------------------------------------I use the stock messaging app
Health Service
Help
Kies Application BnR
KLMS Agent
KNOX
KNOX SetupWizardClient
KnoxAppsUpdateAgent
KnoxFolderContainer
Live Wallpaper Picker
Music ------------------------------------------ You will lose the ability to listen to .AMR files directly (Ex: Visual Voicemail Sent As An MMS With .AMR Extension)
My interests
My Places
My places
MyKNOXSetupWizard
Pages Manager
Peel Smart Remote -----------------------------------------------------------Note 4 can function as an IR Remote. This app can be re-downloaded from Google Play however
PEN.UP
Phase beam ---------------------------------------------------------------------Live wallpaper
Photo Screensavers
Photos
Print Spooler 1
Push To Talk
Quick connect
RoseEUKor - a different font. I use the stock font
S Finder
S Health
Samsung account
Samsung Billing
Samsung Content Agent
Samsung Galaxy
Samsung keyboard ---------------------------- I use google keyboard
Samsung Link Platform
Samsung Print Service Plugin
Samsung Push Service
Samsung setup wizard
SamsungDLPService
SamsungSans
SapaMonitor
Scrapbook
Slow motion
suretap Wallet
TalkBack
TMobile TV -----------------------Disabling or Removing May Also Delete TMobile Visual Voicemail
TouchWiz easy home ------------------------------Launcher portion of Touchwiz (Easy Version)
TouchWiz Home-------------------------------------Launcher portion of Touchwiz
Weather----------------------------------------------Stock weather app, I use the "Okay Google" command
withTV
Unsafe To Remove
Launcher - Causes Ultra Power Saving Mode to break, and "EmergencyManagerService has stopped" on every reboot
Here are the packages I currently have frozen with no loss in functionality (beyond what the packages themselves provide, of course)
Briefing
Car Mode
CarModeRemote
com.facebook.appmanager
com.facebook.system
Email
Facebook
Flipboard
Galaxy Apps
Galaxy AppsWidget
Gear VR Service
Gear VR SetupWizardStub
Gear VR Shell
Hancom Office
Health Service
Internet
KLMS Agent
KNOX
KNOX SetupWizardClient
KnoxAppsUpdateAgent
KnoxFolderContainer
Launcher
Lookout
Magnifier
Messages
Music
My Interests
My Places
My places
Nearby devices
Nerby Service
New Registration
Peel Smart Remote
PEN.UP
Personal Data Management
Photo Studio
Photos
Quick Connect
S Beam
S Finder
S Health
S Voice
Samsung Link Platform
Samsung Milk Music
Samsung MirrorLink
Samsung Print Service Plugin
Samsung Push service
Samsung text-to-speech engine
Samsung+
Samsung DLPService
Scrapbook
Slow Motion
Smart Manager
Studio
T-Mobile
T-Mobile Name ID
T-Movile TV
TalkBack
TouchWiz easy home
TouchWiz home
Video clip studio
Virtual tour
Visual Voicemail
Voice Recorder
Weather
withTV
Just a heads up, that rotation issue can be resolved by replacing a file that gets removed when Facebook is uninstalled. http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-screen-rotation-fix-libgnustlshared-t3408140. One additional step I had to do was set permissions for the file to -rw-r--r--
How do you debloat ?
nostreborderaj said:
Just a heads up, that rotation issue can be resolved by replacing a file that gets removed when Facebook is uninstalled. http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-screen-rotation-fix-libgnustlshared-t3408140. One additional step I had to do was set permissions for the file to -rw-r--r--
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Thank you for this! I will do another debloat test tomorrow and add this to the guide! Great Info!
kyoji001 said:
Here are the packages I currently have frozen with no loss in functionality (beyond what the packages themselves provide, of course)
Thank you for the great list! I will test all of these out tomorrow and update the main post. Your feedback and contribution is appreciated!
PS: One common issue I have found is that you get the error "EmergencyManagerService has stopped working". This also causes Ultra Power Saving Mode to stop working correctly. Does anyone know what is responsible for this?
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kyoji001 said:
Here are the packages I currently have frozen with no loss in functionality (beyond what the packages themselves provide, of course)
Thank you for the great list! I will test all of these out tomorrow and update the main post. Your feedback and contribution is appreciated!
PS: One common issue I have found is that you get the error "EmergencyManagerService has stopped working". This also causes Ultra Power Saving Mode to stop working correctly. Does anyone know what is responsible for this?
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Hey Waterman,
No, I haven't received any errors like that. I just tried Ultra Power Saving mode and it seemed to work fine!
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Hey everyone! Post here all the apps that you have successfully frozen, or removed, without any issues. If you know what they are responsible for, post that as well. I will keep this post updated in Alphabetic order!
After a couple days of debloating, messing up the system, and restoring, there are clearly some apps that cause major issues if removed. For example, the Facebook app causes the screen rotation function to permanently break, if it is removed. There is also another app that results in screen rotation breaking, I have yet to identify it, but I suspect it is one of the KNOX-related apps.
*UPDATE* We have some new information folks! I will be doing a very large debloat tomorrow and this thread will get a huge update
RED = LOSS OF PRIMARY SYSTEM FUNCTIONS (Ex: Screen Rotation)
ORANGE = LOSS OF RELATED SYSTEM FUNCTIONS ONLY (Ex: Touchwiz Launcher, Knox)
WHITE = LOSS / REMOVAL OF APP ONLY (SELF CONTAINED. Ex: Flipboard)
Safe To Remove
Safe To Freeze (No Loss Of Functionality If Frozen, LOSS OF FUNCTIONS IF REMOVED)
-Facebook - Results In Loss Of Screen Rotation
Unsafe To Remove Or Freeze (Loss Of Function If Removed / Frozen)
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This fixes the screen rotation issue with Facebook.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-screen-rotation-fix-libgnustlshared-t3408140
Oops didnt see @nostreborderaj's post. ;p
Nice thread ?
Hey everyone,
So I compiled this entire list and did it myself. I was doing it in batches. The last portion was after Phase Beam, and that caused an error in the system
"EmergencyManagerService has stopped working"
This causes the error to come up on every reboot, and breaks ultra power saving mode functionality. At this point I am going through them one by one and trying to identify which app breaks this when removed. This may take a while ...
Here's what I've personally removed:
system/app/AccuweatherPhone2014_T_MMR
system/app/AmazonShopping_TMO
system/app/AntHalService
system/app/ANTPlusPlugins
system/app/ANTPlusTest
system/app/ANTRadioService
system/app/BasicDreams
system/app/BBCAgent
system/app/BookmarkProvider
system/app/Books
system/app/ChocoEUKor
system/app/com.mobitv.client.tmobiletvhd
system/app/CoolEUKor
system/app/DigitalClock_MUPG
system/app/DigitalClockEasy_MUPG
system/app/Drive
system/app/Dropbox
system/app/DualClockDigital_MUPG
system/app/EasymodeContactsWidget_RECT
system/app/EasySettings
system/app/EasySetup
system/app/ELMAgent
system/app/Facebook_latest
system/app/FactoryCameraFB
system/app/FBAppManager
system/app/Flipboard
system/app/FlipboardBriefing
system/app/GameOptimizer
system/app/Kies
system/app/KnoxAppsUpdateAgent
system/app/KnoxAttestationAgent
system/app/KnoxFolderContainer
system/app/KnoxSetupWizardClient
system/app/KnoxSwitcher
system/app/MobilePrintSvc_Samsung
system/app/Music2
system/app/Newsstand
system/app/PartnerBookmarksProvider
system/app/PENUP
system/app/PlayGames
system/app/PlusOne
system/app/Post_T_Promo
system/app/RoseEUKor
system/app/SamsungAppsWidget_BannerStyle_common
system/app/SamsungDLPService
system/app/SamsungSans
system/app/SamsungTTS
system/app/SamsungWidget_ActiveApplication
system/app/SBrowser_4_LATEST
system/app/SecEmail_K
system/app/SecExchange
system/app/SecurityLogAgent
system/app/SLocation
system/app/SnsImageCache
system/app/SPrintSpooler6
system/app/talkback
system/app/UniversalMDMClient
system/app/Videos
system/app/Vvm_TMO
system/app/WeatherDaemon2014_T_MMR
system/app/withTV
system/priv-app/AccessTmobile_TMO
system/priv-app/AdaptClient
system/priv-app/AutomationTest_FB
system/priv-app/DiagMonAgent
system/priv-app/EasyLauncher2
system/priv-app/ECID-release_TMO
system/priv-app/FBInstaller
system/priv-app/FotaAgent
system/priv-app/HancomOfficeEditor
system/priv-app/KLMSAgent
system/priv-app/LocationWidget_M
system/priv-app/Lookout_TMO
system/priv-app/MILK_US
system/priv-app/NoiseField
system/priv-app/SAMSUNG_PLUS
system/priv-app/SamsungLinkPlatform
system/priv-app/SecMyFiles2014MUP
system/priv-app/SOAgent
system/priv-app/SNS_v2
system/priv-app/SPPPushClient_Prod
system/priv-app/TouchWizHome
system/media/audio/ui/PowerOn.ogg
so far haven't had any issues
Thanks for the topic/lists @WaterMan! & @kyoji001, I loves some debloating... wait! I... don't care for bloat... Err, both! :silly:
Are you guys using a particular tool for uninstallation or doing so manually? I've used TB with filters in the past but have encountered some (minor, but semi annoying) issues in the past. I had planned on using System App Remover on my next fresh install based on recommendations/friendliness wrt lib files but then an update added a location permission, which set off my sketch alert and put me off of that app.
Ok, this is going to be long... feel free to skim :good: I did an interesting test last night, although I'm still running 5.1.1 (TEKxodus 7.4R2). I had removed about 200 unwanted system apps along with their data via TB a couple of months ago. Like I said, issues were minor and sporadic (mostly various GAPPS fc's). My phone's been running fine, so I didn't bother trying the following until last night, mainly just in the interest of contributing to this discussion, although I can't say yet whether or not this is "safe" on MM... if you think it might be problematic for any reason, please chime in! The steps that I took are here: extracted the system/lib directory from my current ROM's install archive, cut & pasted the entire original system/lib directory into the same directory on the active TB debloated ROM skipping present files and replacing those that were missing/deleted - I skipped subfolders at first then checked my install to see if any of them were missing files which they weren't, next I wiped cache & dalvik in recovery and optimized databases in Synapse (for good measure...), step 4) ????, 5) Profit!(?)
I used Root Explorer to do my lib directory manipulation, and after copying the missing modules, I selected all files in my actual system/lib directories to get a count then did the same in the folder I had extracted which then contained all of the files that were already present and therefor skipped. There were 7 more files in my active lib directory, so it seems that's how many modules my debloating had removed.
I wasn't really sure if/how I'd be able to tell if restoring the modules had any positive effect since the only problems that I had with my phone were so sporadic. I did however run a bench (Antutu) before and after (this morning after the phone had been back on overnight and I had used it a decent amount). The main reason that I was curious about bench scores is that I expected to get higher average scores after debloating, but was surprised that my bench scores stayed exactly where they had been (always somewhere between 68,000 and 69,200. I always screenshot the detailed results with all of the sections expanded (scroll-capture :good: ) after running a bench and jot down any factors or settings that might have some impact on performance on the image before saving it.
Well, it turns out I was... very possibly... right to be suspicious about the lack of an increase in my average bench score. I made sure to use my phone some before testing after my dalvik/cache wipes and such - played a game for a bit, did some web browsing. So after some pretty surprisingly consistent scoring within a pretty narrow range, this morning I hit 72,871(!) with all of the extra points attributed to the (surprisingly, I suppose) 3D tests... some of the other results that I saw in the detailed section were actually a bit lower compared to my test from last night, but all within 500 points of my previous average, i.e. "normal". I'll test again in a week or so or before updating to MM (whichever comes first).
So to wrap this up, I would cautiously recommend this technique for debloating. Summarized: uninstall unwanted system apps however you want, then restore your system/lib directory to it's default install state from the extracted folder from whatever ROM you have installed. Do so at your own risk, of course, particularly if you're on MM. I'll follow the same steps that I posted after doing the update and report back on the results.
Thanks again for this thread and the bloat lists. This type of thread is always a super helpful resource!
The list I compiled is what I personally removed, and tested, using Titanium Backup. No side effects other than the app in question being deleted obviously. I just moved the list around, I have one last chunk of apps to go through. One of these causes the error "emergencyManagerService has stopped" when deleted, and also causes ultra power saving mode to stop working. I will have it done by tonight, and find exactly what app is doing this!
WaterMan! said:
The list I compiled is what I personally removed, and tested, using Titanium Backup. No side effects other than the app in question being deleted obviously. I just moved the list around, I have one last chunk of apps to go through. One of these causes the error "emergencyManagerService has stopped" when deleted, and also causes ultra power saving mode to stop working. I will have it done by tonight, and find exactly what app is doing this!
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Hey Waterman,
Looking at your list my bet is on something to do with the Launcher. Ultra Power Saving replaces your default launcher with a special BW launcher; I'm thinking that its just a skinned Touchwiz launcher.
kyoji001 said:
Hey Waterman,
Looking at your list my bet is on something to do with the Launcher. Ultra Power Saving replaces your default launcher with a special BW launcher; I'm thinking that its just a skinned Touchwiz launcher.
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Spot on! Post has been updated! Seems like my list is practically complete I may do some more tweaking here and there, but that is the vast majority of it. Thanks for the great info!
Never mind. I found the S7 clock apk and it works fine.
Umm...I accidentally uninstalled the stock clock app Could someone possibly upload that apk?
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Spot on! Post has been updated! Seems like my list is practically complete I may do some more tweaking here and there, but that is the vast majority of it. Thanks for the great info!
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I don't know if its worth mentioning in your first post, but the ANT HAL services all have to do with basically fitness wearables. If you use any that aren't BT and remove the ANT+ packages I imagine they will stop functioning.
How do you actually go about removing thsese items?
What are the steps for debloating?
Thanks!
Personally I like some of the Samsung apps & features otherwise I would use a non-Samsung ROM like Resurrection Remix.
I love SHealth and have a Gear VR. I'm surprised if you have a Note 4 and don't use SHealth with its cool heartrate, pulse ox, UV, stress level and other monitoring features. Also think the Samsung photo editor is actually one of the better ones.
Never used CarMode is but it seems like something useful.
Not sure what happens with any of these if you remove Samsung Account and Galaxy Apps I think they may be necessary at least for updates to these apps and for storing the SHealth data.
hehehaha123 said:
How do you actually go about removing thsese items?
What are the steps for debloating?
Thanks!
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I used Titanium Backup. There are other apps out there as well, or you can even do it manually.
kyoji001 said:
I don't know if its worth mentioning in your first post, but the ANT HAL services all have to do with basically fitness wearables. If you use any that aren't BT and remove the ANT+ packages I imagine they will stop functioning.
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Yes that is true, and that is exactly what ANT+ does. 99% of people will never use it, I know I personally will not. I haven't yet posted what everything does, but I will. I have been busy and out of town
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Personally I like some of the Samsung apps & features otherwise I would use a non-Samsung ROM like Resurrection Remix.
I love SHealth and have a Gear VR. I'm surprised if you have a Note 4 and don't use SHealth with its cool heartrate, pulse ox, UV, stress level and other monitoring features. Also think the Samsung photo editor is actually one of the better ones.
Never used CarMode is but it seems like something useful.
Not sure what happens with any of these if you remove Samsung Account and Galaxy Apps I think they may be necessary at least for updates to these apps and for storing the SHealth data.
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Again, you may use it, but that's a niche. I would never use any of those features. Note 4 is way too big to work out with, nor would I want to. I have never touched the Photo Editor. Car Mode does nothing practical other than neuter phone functionality when driving. Proceed with caution, and don't delete anything you use.
Can anyone provide a good debloat list for the U model ver 27?
Hey I know this is an old post, but if you're still in need I just made a post that might help you: https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/debloat-list-a2017u-t3536687
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I'm working on trying to make a custom ROM and I noticed that there is no complete debloat list for the Axon 7 that I could find. Honestly the bloat on this device really isn't that bad, most of the preloaded apps I actually use. Although I am learning about making custom ROMs and debloating is part of that learning, and I figure someone may find this useful. Now this is by now means a complete or thoroughly tested list. It will be it just isn't yet, so in the meantime feel free to make any comments that may help.
Without further adue, the list:
Browser
Themes
Touchpal (w/ Chat Pack)
Video Player
Weshare
Google Apps
Chrome
Cloud Print
Docs
Gmail
Hangouts
Maps
Play Music
Talkback
YouTube
ZTE Apps
Compass
Email
Gallery
Recorder
Toolbox
Weather
Of course the google framework should be removable and I did remove it but that seems like something that will need testing. Furthermore I know it is possible to remove Dolby Atmos, but I don't know how yet.
Thanks to SuperR for a great Kitchen to work in, and thanks to lokissmile who's tennitive list on his HelsAx7.SubMix helped me start this list ( I also copied that first thank you from him too).
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Thank you so much for putting this list together! It has been really helpful.
Kinanizer said:
Hey I know this is an old post, but if you're still in need I just made a post that might help you: https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/debloat-list-a2017u-t3536687
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that's a very good list, thanks
Hola
What on phone tool do you folks use to forcibly remove these system apps? I am a keen user of Titanium Backup, but I find that TiBu doesn't always completely remove these unwanted apps. I understand that if someone creates a TWRP flashable zip with the mentioned unwanted apps, then this is another working way, but seems rather long winded is it not?
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Hola
What on phone tool do you folks use to forcibly remove these system apps? I am a keen user of Titanium Backup, but I find that TiBu doesn't always completely remove these unwanted apps. I understand that if someone creates a TWRP flashable zip with the mentioned unwanted apps, then this is another working way, but seems rather long winded is it not?
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you'll root to remove all those apps from the phone and you can use link2sd to uninstall all of them
LifeSupportZ said:
you'll root to remove all those apps from the phone and you can use link2sd to uninstall all of them
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If you go this route, consider "Freezing" the apps for a few days before actually uninstalling them to insure there is not a dependency that is not obvious. Also keep a previous level nandroid backup.
Even that is not always foolproof tho. After intially replacing the Stock ZTE Browser with the smaller Android Browser I found it could not create bookmarks. Reinstalled the ZTE WeimiBrowser OK. All works with Android Browser Frozen just fine, but when I uninstalling it I get a strange SIM issue where the phone bounces between SIM 1 & 2 (only #1 is installed). So I leave it Frozen. Irritating, but plenty of storage.
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If you go this route, consider "Freezing" the apps for a few days before actually uninstalling them to insure there is not a dependency that is not obvious. Also keep a previous level nandroid backup.
Even that is not always foolproof tho. After intially replacing the Stock ZTE Browser with the smaller Android Browser I found it could not create bookmarks. Reinstalled the ZTE WeimiBrowser OK. All works with Android Browser Frozen just fine, but when I uninstalling it I get a strange SIM issue where the phone bounces between SIM 1 & 2 (only #1 is installed). So I leave it Frozen. Irritating, but plenty of storage.
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thank you for the tip and i really haven't had any problems when i delete the browser, but if i do encounter any issues i know what to do :good:
Putting this here in hopes of helping other J7 perx users pull the most from their battery . Thanks to Ashyx we have root on our device!! Wich makes this possible. Recovery atm is still being worked on so bootloops are no fun, figured id help everyone out, took quite the number of bootloops and several hours to come up with rebooting after every single uninstall to pin point certain apks, hopefully it is useful.
First make a backup with titanium backup!!
(The list does not rob the os of many features, but if theres something here you dont want taken out then simply look over it or restore it)
68-70 apks removed with titanium backup, lets get goin.
All Amazon related apps
App stack
All Facebook related apps
Basic daydreams
Beacon manager
Boost featured apps
Boost hub
Caller id
Device protection manager
Google Drive
Duo
Easy setup
Gadget guardian
All Galaxy related apps
Game optimizing service
Google calander sync
Google videos
Google music
Google tts
Hancom office viewer
Health service
Instagram
Internet
All Knox related apps
Quick connect
Link sharing
Live wallpaper picker
Market feedback agent
Messenger
Mobile id
My boost launcher
My interests
Nearby service
Photo editor
Photo screensaver
Prime videos
Prime photos
Print service
Quick connect
S health
Safety assistance
Samsung location
Samsung notes
Samsung push
Samsung theme
Samsung tts
Samsung plus
Secure folder
Sound alive
Sound picker
Smart switch
Themes
Touchwiz easy home
Universal switch
Voice assistant
All weather apps
Wifi direct
Withtv
Youtube
Do not remove dictionary.apk or device maintanance.apk, as both result in bootloops. Make sure to run the sd maid app from the playstore afterwards to clean things up!
Also feel free to adventure and add to this list!!
any news my friend about more apps that can be uninstalled?
Note of advice while debloating Stock Oreo ROM for SM-J727P
All the listed apps in here just apply fine except you have to keep in place the native Email and Message apps because if you uninstall any of those the Camera app stop working properly right away https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77722457&postcount=29
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any news my friend about more apps that can be uninstalled?
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I have an Oreo debloat script in my Spacesung thread. Everything without a # sign in front of it in my script is safe to remove. Additionally, it's also safe to remove Samsung experience, the theme store, and Touchwiz launcher, if you have another launcher to replace it. You can remove google videos as well, I just forgot about it. The native Samsung video player will kick in from the gallery if you do. I prefer it myself.
For those who still rock with this warrior phone.
As of this writing and latest ROM version J727PVPU7BTH1 do not uninstall the included Chrome web browser apk as it would prevent you from signing in to the Play Store account.
Rooted Galaxy Note 2, Many Pre-Installed Apps "Removed", Help or Advice Wanted
Today I rooted my Note 2 with a simple guide found on this website (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2143479) and then searching for a way to get rid of Pre-Installed apps, I came upon an app called Titanium Backup (knew of it, never used it before till now). I never used it because as the name implies it is for backing up your phone and I pretty much never do that, however, since it was part of the instructions I got it and unbeknownst to me it is also used to forcibly uninstall Pre-Installed apps. Here's my question...
I uninstalled the apps I did not want but when I look in the application manager I still see them on with about 1mb in size and the thumbnail shows "SD". So are they actually installed or is their factory portions just uninstalled with residual/cache remaining behind?
I'm not new to rooting but I am new to uninstalling apps that aren't "supposed to be uninstall-able".