Hi guys,
I've been waiting for this phone to come to T-Mobile for so long, I went ahead and bought it at Sony store. I hope I won't regret (**fingers crossed**)
Anyways so I wanted to know few things:
Do I need unlocked bootloader? (I'm guessing for custom ROMs, CM and others -- YES)
After unlocking bootloader can I still use all features by Sony?
More importantly if anyone know, do I still follow this forum for this phone? (C6606PL) (I'm guessing I only need to worry about wireless bands and I should be fine).
Importantly I just wanted to announce that I got a phone and I'm too happy
MODs: If this thread doesn't provide any purpose please delete it, frankly as I said, I started it cause I'm happy.
You can go on and unlock the bootloader IF you really want to play with custom roms and kernels.
After unlocking the bootloader, you can still have Sony official firmware, thus, retaining all Sony features, minus Bravia Engine, which you lose after unlocking the bootloader. But then again, if you want to use official firm, there is no use of unlocking the bootloader.
Custom roms (original development) have their own approach, they lose the small apps, camera, Walkman, and all the Sony framework dependent apps, but most of the times are more smoother and configurable than stock roms.
I don't think you can unlock your bootloader cause carrier branded has locked bootloader.
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LitoNi said:
I don't think you can unlock your bootloader cause carrier branded has locked bootloader.
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I think, all devices come with locked bootloader and unlocking bootloader voids warranty.
DrKrFfXx said:
You can go on and unlock the bootloader IF you really want to play with custom roms and kernels.
After unlocking the bootloader, you can still have Sony official firmware, thus, retaining all Sony features, minus Bravia Engine, which you lose after unlocking the bootloader. But then again, if you want to use official firm, there is no use of unlocking the bootloader.
Custom roms (original development) have their own approach, they lose the small apps, camera, Walkman, and all the Sony framework dependent apps, but most of the times are more smoother and configurable than stock roms.
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Thanks, I understand I'll lose Bravia Engine but I thought there are other DRM keys as well apart from only display engine.
Walkman and other apps can be ported to custom ROMs so wouldn't be a problem with them (only app I like is Walkman), CM camera is much better.
wis3m0nkey said:
Thanks, I understand I'll lose Bravia Engine but I thought there are other DRM keys as well apart from only display engine.
Walkman and other apps can be ported to custom ROMs so wouldn't be a problem with them (only app I like is Walkman), CM camera is much better.
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Imho, Sony Camera is miles ahead from what CM or AOSP can offer as of today. That's my main gripe when using these roms.
wis3m0nkey said:
Thanks, I understand I'll lose Bravia Engine but I thought there are other DRM keys as well apart from only display engine.
Walkman and other apps can be ported to custom ROMs so wouldn't be a problem with them (only app I like is Walkman), CM camera is much better.
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check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2359979
if not go to your device
launch the phone app
input the following *#*#7378423#*#* or *#*#service#*#*
service info > configuration > bootloader unlock allowed: ____
(if it states yes) then you can unlock it.
(if it states no) then you cannot unlock it.
LitoNi said:
check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2359979
if not go to your device
launch the phone app
input the following *#*#7378423#*#* or *#*#service#*#*
service info > configuration > bootloader unlock allowed: ____
(if it states yes) then you can unlock it.
(if it states no) then you cannot unlock it.
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Thanks, I didn't know it specifically says Bootloader unlock is not allowed. I'll check it once I get my phone
DrKrFfXx said:
Imho, Sony Camera is miles ahead from what CM or AOSP can offer as of today. That's my main gripe when using these roms.
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Thanks I'll check Sony camera, I currently use LG optimus G (CDMA sprint) and I like CM camera better than LG camera.
Unlocking your bootloader would void your warranty anyway. If you don't backup your Trim Area (TA) before bootloader unlock, you also lose your DRM keys forever (which are needed for Mobile BRAVIA Engine 2, MusicID/Gracenote, etc.).
By using a custom ROM, you would lose many awesome features and the great design of Sony's user interface:
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Apollo89 sony's trackID/musicID doesn't need the drm key to work its not needed it for a long time now since it was made available as a stand alone app that could be downloaded from google play.
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Futura2000 said:
Apollo89 sony's trackID/musicID doesn't need the drm key to work its not needed it for a long time now since it was made available as a stand alone app that could be downloaded from google play.
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Where did I say TrackID? I'm talking about MusicID/Gracenote. This is a function inside the WALKMAN app.
Op, unfortunately we cannot unlock the bootloader of T-Mobile branded Xperia Zs. I went to the Sony store and checked myself.
I don't agree that the look is worse with a custom ROM based on the AOSP. I will take more screenshots tomorrow but here is an older one from my app drawer:
I am using PAC and for that ROM, I am using the Xperia Z Album, Honami Walkman, Togari/Xperia Z Ultra Sketch, Honami Notes and a very elegant Sony theme for CM. It also makes the dialer etc looking like the Sony style.
Also Settings etc looks like the original Sony ROM.
I prefer Nova Launcher but the Honami launcher works under AOSP/CM based ROMs and there is also the Advanced Xperia Z Launcher with enhanced features that can be used.
So I think it is important to remember that many Sony apps works on non-Sony based ROMs and to me, I am perfectly happy with having Album and Walkman etc running nicely. The only original thing that can be missed is the camera but the strength of tablet UI etc that PAC offers compensates that.
I will put screenshots tomorrow that shows my "Sonyfied" PAC.
I am also using the Sony wallpapers and boot animation together with Sony styled softkeys.
E90 Commie said:
I don't agree that the look is worse with a custom ROM based on the AOSP. I will take more screenshots tomorrow but here is an older one from my app drawer:
I am using PAC and for that ROM, I am using the Xperia Z Album, Honami Walkman, Togari/Xperia Z Ultra Sketch, Honami Notes and a very elegant Sony theme for CM. It also makes the dialer etc looking like the Sony style.
Also Settings etc looks like the original Sony ROM.
I prefer Nova Launcher but the Honami launcher works under AOSP/CM based ROMs and there is also the Advanced Xperia Z Launcher with enhanced features that can be used.
So I think it is important to remember that many Sony apps works on non-Sony based ROMs and to me, I am perfectly happy with having Album and Walkman etc running nicely. The only original thing that can be missed is the camera but the strength of tablet UI etc that PAC offers compensates that.
I will put screenshots tomorrow that shows my "Sonyfied" PAC.
I am also using the Sony wallpapers and boot animation together with Sony styled softkeys.
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Actually all CM/AOKP/AOSP like never change since day one. Those look can simply get by installing Nova or Apex, not a necessary use CM/AOKP/AOSP.
I only use CM/AOKP/AOSP if origin run badly, if it run fine, I buy that brand not only for outlook but also it internal look, which means CM/AOKP/AOSP is a no for me. CM/AOKP/AOSP all look same in all brand phone. Nothing fancy or cool about it already since it same from 1st day.
Above just my own personal preferable and opinion.
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Op, unfortunately we cannot unlock the bootloader of T-Mobile branded Xperia Zs. I went to the Sony store and checked myself.
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Does that mean no AOSP ROMs or just means we need to wait for someone to find a way to unlock the bootloader?
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I don't agree that the look is worse with a custom ROM based on the AOSP. I will take more screenshots tomorrow but here is an older one from my app drawer:
I am using PAC and for that ROM, I am using the Xperia Z Album, Honami Walkman, Togari/Xperia Z Ultra Sketch, Honami Notes and a very elegant Sony theme for CM. It also makes the dialer etc looking like the Sony style.
Also Settings etc looks like the original Sony ROM.
I prefer Nova Launcher but the Honami launcher works under AOSP/CM based ROMs and there is also the Advanced Xperia Z Launcher with enhanced features that can be used.
So I think it is important to remember that many Sony apps works on non-Sony based ROMs and to me, I am perfectly happy with having Album and Walkman etc running nicely. The only original thing that can be missed is the camera but the strength of tablet UI etc that PAC offers compensates that.
I will put screenshots tomorrow that shows my "Sonyfied" PAC.
I am also using the Sony wallpapers and boot animation together with Sony styled softkeys.
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Thanks,
Exactly as u said, customization is why I like Android. I like ur setup, I'll try to follow it
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Where did I say TrackID? I'm talking about MusicID/Gracenote. This is a function inside the WALKMAN app.
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This still works even if your BL is unlocked and no ta backup has been restored.
wis3m0nkey said:
Does that mean no AOSP ROMs or just means we need to wait for someone to find a way to unlock the bootloader?
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That is correct. No AOSP ROMs, for now I hope but you can run custom ROMs based off of the stock kernel.
I don't like the FUD about AOSP/AOKP/CM/PA since it is great ROMs and telling a newbie that they should stick to the stock ROM with screenshots showing a default AOSP ROM isn't a good idea.:angel:
So now will be a post with a lot of screenshots from my Xperia Z that runs PAC ROM with my own setup and customizations.
We are talking about this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2208249
It is the best ROM I have ever used on any of my devices - it offers a superior combination of smoothness and customization options. Instead of being reliant on mods that has to be flashed through CWM/TWRP for things like transparent status bars, different button layouts etc - everything is handled through the settings. The Paranoid Android settings is also great - no more fiddling with Xposed Framework App Settings module in order to get tablet mode. The great thing is that it is possible to use Phablet mode and then run all apps in Tablet Mode.
The screenshots is coming here:
My homescreen (Nova Launcher Prime) with Beautiful Widgets, Battery Monitor Widget Pro and System Tuner Pro.
The notification switches. Superior to the stock ones and fully customizable. Since I am using phablet mode here, they are a separate drawer that I reach from the right side of the screen, the notifications are to the left.
Settings (tablet mode is used). The theme is Sony styled, hence the same icons as the stock ROMs. Note that the Theme manager and its themes has a wide effect - camera, dialer and messaging etc got a different look.
Sony themed dialer.
Sony themed Messaging.
Honami Movies up and running.
Xperia Z Album up and running.
Honami Walkman works great.
Sony 4X Video Player is also working.
Xperia Z Ultra/Togari Sketch runs great.
Xperia themed CM camera (other cameras like FV-5 is available for more settings etc.
The AOSP Browser is just great in tablet mode with tabbed browsing.
Gmail in tablet mode is very nice, then we have Aqua Mail that is a superb client.
Sony Launcher feeling can be obtained too - this is the Advanced Xperia Z Launcher. The Honami Launcher works too.
Google Play in tablet mode and with transparent mod is nicer than the phone mode.
When it comes to alarm clocks I can only say this: there are a lot of them out there. Alarm Clock Xtreme is one example.
All of this has been accomplished with the PAC ROM. I used stock based ROMs before but PAC is vastly superior. Since I can run all Sony apps I like, I don't regret the switch at all.
It is also worth to mention that Play Memories works great under PAC too.
Simply put: Sony has a decent stock ROM but PAC is even better.
When it comes to bootloader unlock: carrier branded Xperia's are to be avoided since the unlock feature rarely works. It depends on the carrier though. Buying a T-Mobile version is a bad idea when there is the unlocked and unbranded C6602 available at the Sony Store.
The tablet mode paired with the hassle free customization where you enter settings rather than fiddles with specially made mods for a specific ROM is a very strong point for PAC. It is more efficient to change status bars etc through a setting rather than flashing .zip mods.
The theme engine in those CM related ROMs are great too - there are many nice themes available.
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HoOnZ said:
Op, unfortunately we cannot unlock the bootloader of T-Mobile branded Xperia Zs. I went to the Sony store and checked myself.
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I don't see any reason to buy a T-Mobile branded Xperia Z when the C6602 is avaible. Don't mention LTE - if it is necessary - just wait for the Honami, which should offer the same LTE radio as the Xperia Z Ultra - it has the bands covered.
Just skip the T-Mobile edition and buy the unlocked version. If the argument "it costs me $569" I say "Sony financing". They offer financing plans so no need to go to a carrier for that. The present credit card is another option.
Getting postpaid solutions is a bad idea in the US because "regulatory taxes and fees" - going prepaid is the way to go, especially for high quality devices that are unlocked and unbranded (carrier branded products are just inferior). I am using my Xperia Z with Straight Talk and pay $45 per month - great working.
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Since SE has confirmed ICS update for the arc/arc S, I think it is a good idea to discuss about the appearance of the firmware.
Personally, I'd like most things to be left as stock with some touches there and here to distinguish it from other ICS builds.
What do you think?
EDIT: No, this is not "just another ICS thread".
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If it's really true, I'm very excitedly happy. Yay for stock Android
- New timescape version (might include timescape for application)
- Apps & Widget manager
- New music players
- More bloatwares
- Hopefully camera will be fixed
- System running faster
what happen to the camera?
Chances are it will come with the same old tired S.E U.I, which isn't really an issue as that can easily be changed.
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Chances are it will come with the same old tired S.E U.I, which isn't really an issue as that can easily be changed.
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I hope we do manage to get it rooted with locked bootloaders because after that, making it stock is easy
-Camera compression
-Shortcuts for notification site, to add music player, power control shortcuts
-New home launcher...
-better support for liveview
-wi fi connection
-faster scrolling in menu, switch from first to last app. list faster.like moving finger on dots beyond apps
-"xBass" pls. make this > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106197 I'd appreciate it, really. f* xloud, it doesnt change max loudness.
I don't think SE is that dumb to change the whole appearance of ICS lol..
why would they even do that? maybe a little touch to make it more attractive than the others but why would they make it into a TS UI? LOL makes no sense to me as the holographic engine of the ICS FW is so damn awesome & sleek :O
I think it would be great if sony put its touch in the interface while keeping it ICS
look in general.
Camera compression is the only adjustment I care about. Make it better or lose a customer
Full blown SE customization.
Stock android is boring (at least for me)
- Hardware accelerated graphics -> smooth, lag-free scrolling and navigation !
Never in my days will I understand anyone who thinks the left is better UI design than the right >.< But each to their own I guess
I like se one over stock gingerbread .but ice cream?iam not sure
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I hope and think SE will combine their amazing UI design skills
with ICS.
ICS is not so beautiful everywhere however I think - I really do! - that some ICS UI elements are actually inspired by SE.
SE has the best UI on smartphones IMO.
I like ICS home launcher, but I also like SE's home launcher, so I hope to have the functionality of SE Home launcher with the stock launcher + SE theme.
I like some of SE functionality also like Facebook inside Xperia.
but there's things I hate, SE must, and must and MUST do something regarding it...
1- the added pre-installed apps I hope SE make them optional, these are forced to be in the phone even if the user doesn't want them... yeah make them already pre-installed but don't make them system apps so we can remove what ever we want to remove.
2- The Home launcher & browser both should be Hardware accelerated, and Home launcher should be loaded in Memory all the time, and make the browser have this option also.
Xajel said:
1- the added pre-installed apps I hope SE make them optional, these are forced to be in the phone even if the user doesn't want them... yeah make them already pre-installed but don't make them system apps so we can remove what ever we want to remove.
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One of ics new features is disabling any system app so it looks like we won't have an issue
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jtc42 said:
Never in my days will I understand anyone who thinks the left is better UI design than the right >.< But each to their own I guess
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Erm, you've got to be joking?!! The Google ICS image on the right looks like a cluttered, cramped and confusing mess. The SE image on the left is clear and simple. Also look at that pointless big grey bar at the bottom of the screen on ICS - what an absolute waste of screen space.
I also absolutely hate the way ICS on the Galaxy Nexus wastes screen space for those pointless software Android buttons. Slimline tactile buttons as on the Xperias are a superior solution.
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doomed151 said:
Since SE has confirmed ICS update for the arc/arc S, I think it is a good idea to discuss about the appearance of the firmware.
Personally, I'd like most things to be left as stock with some touches there and here to distinguish it from other ICS builds.
What do you think?
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I'm not sure whether you can already do this or not in ICS, but I think there should be a way to add labels to pages in your app tray. I see Google has added tabs for "Apps" and "Widgets", but I think this is a pointless change. I don't need a Widget tab, nor do I want an Android Market tab (it's there for no other reason than Goog£€ making sure to promote its ridiculous 30% cut on app sales). What I would like is the ability to create custom tabs to group my apps (or, alternatively, the ability to create folders) in the app tray. Ironically, Google have moved to SE-style side scrolling for apps, but with custom tabs vertical scrolling would actually look better!
I would also like companies like SE to neuter Google's power a bit more. I simply do not trust Google (I think it is becoming too big, powerful and "big brother" like) and would like SE to add features such as the making it more configurable what data Google receive, and reduce the dependency on Google services.
I also wish SE would stop forcing Facebook on users, and allow users to remove the Facebook app and all Facebook features - not only is the Facebook app badly written and a CPU and battery hog (which runs in the background even if you sign out), Facebook is another company that I do not trust at all.
I have to agree with Paul. I'm not a big fan of the ICS UI. I particularly don't care for the soft buttons at the bottom of the screen. I prefer a clean, simple look. Albiet I haven't used a true ICS ROM, but I have flashed ICS themed ROMS and don't like it all. Call me a creature of habit, but I have no plans of installing ICS when it's finally released.
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I forget to say,
1- Add support for USB-OTG Mass Storage, and please for any newer phones, even if you will add large internal memory ( like 16GB ) add also a microSD slot, it's a must, and AFAIK missing the microSD will mean no USB-OTG Mass Storage...
2- Support WiFi Direct
I don't know if you're aware, but when ICS comes to the arc, or any other device with buttons, the soft buttons are disabled and it functions as normal.
Also the ICS themes for 2.3 are not at all a fair indication of the user experience. Most of the joy of ICS is its the first version of android with some degree of descent UI consistency.
I agree, the SE overlay is the best android 2.3 interface around. But android 2.3 UI sucked, it was a mess of aged, inconsistent graphics design. Sony took it and built an aged looking but more consistent UI design. Google have actually gone and made a stock UI in ICS that looks stylish enough to stand out in this world of simple, modern interface design.
But as I said, each to their own I guess I for one will be updating as soon as possible, ICS brings so many great new features to the table, as long as Sony doesn't spoil them, I think it's going to be a great update
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Hello, I write to you all Arc owners because you have to know the truth!
With the last ics (and also gingerbread some apps) the phone is really slow opening simple apps like the gallery, the telephone dialer, and more things you perfectly know. The incredible comes now! I installed the xperia S ics apps, launcher etc, and incredibly all works like a charm. The gallery is incredibly fast, the telephone dialer opens very quickly, the launcher don´t have lag etc....
This is a Sony strategy to make us think that the arc is outdated and buy a new phone.....it´s a shame! Sony do the things right with 2011 xperias!!!!!!!!!!
we will need more feed back on this! cause its really getting very annoying to wait every time you want to dial a number!
for me it takes around 3 days after a restart when the dialer starts to lag..so i used to restart the phone every 3-4 days to make everything smooth again ..anyways xperia s ICS apps looks promising
Strange, my phone became slower once I installed the Xperia S ICS apps. Especially the dialer.
can i have the post from where to install the apps for Xperia S.
and a tutorial will also be appreciated !
philansel7 said:
can i have the post from where to install the apps for Xperia S.
and a tutorial will also be appreciated !
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1725189 - Here is the post mate. Just flash the zip through recovery.
madasalizard said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1725189 - Here is the post mate. Just flash the zip through recovery.
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Man this is F**king crazy. just installed it and now i can say that my ARC ICS is as smooth as gingerbread. How come that this made my ICS experience so good. its so smooth and no lag. I've have rooted my arc and i've deleted all the bloatware but it was still laggy.. now it's like ice on water.. so f**cking smooth.. try it and you wont regret it.
the album gallery, phone apps, contact apps and messaging apps is just great.
It is true, the Xperia S ICS launcher makes it much smoother now on old lovely Arc (LT15i), so I recommend everyone to try it. It is not just wishful thinking it really makes a difference. :good::good:
But I have a bug when I receive a call, the screen goes black for 3 seconds before I can answer the call, but I dont know why yet (Stock .431 firmware with Trinity kernel and Xperia S ICS launcher). :crying:
Letter to sonymobile:
I´m an angry Xperia Arc user. Like other users i have been here giving feedback, requesting new things, but i see nothing..........xperia arc is laggy, slow, have and old kernel, etc. What happen with the galery? It´s pathetically slow, and the same for the music player when it have to load the covers, the launcher is not fluid and not to talk about the ics telephone dialer.
What makes me laugh is that yesterday I install in my arc the xperia s ICS apps, and what surprise! the gallery works super fast, launcher with no lag, walkman with equializer, mega bass, more and beautiful widgets, the phone dialer opens instantly and many other features.
Sony this is the promise of been updated 18 months? What Xperia arc users have done to deserve this?
Why the xperia S software works better on a 2011 telephone? Very bad sony!
Why don´t you install the new software in the 2011 phones by default, you have it already created!!! But no, you have to give us very bad optimized software, yes I understand this is an strategy to make us buying a new phone....this is the time to take note sony! Give us what whe want.
Would love to see reply from Sony!
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Sony is playing their cards really well.making us believe that our ARC \ S is outdated & our hardware cannot handle ICS.The Xperia S ICS apps work really fast & with efficiency on our ARC \ S.Lets say for example Sony's latest models Xperia Miro , Tipo.these handsets r running 800mhz processor & Adreno 200.& to think these r getting the ICS out of the box.how is that possible ??? & seeing this i think the X10 community will be in a RIOT(i just moved from X10).
Our Handsets r more than capable of running ICS.
Sony disappointed me for sure.I think they did not even put in decent effort to build ICS for Xperia 2011 line up.they want us to think our phones r outdated & want us to buy their new "SONY" branded handsets..
Shame on u SONY !!!
Marketing strategy dude!! the dirty strategy!
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Letter to sonymobile:
I´m an angry Xperia Arc user. Like other users i have been here giving feedback, requesting new things, but i see nothing..........xperia arc is laggy, slow, have and old kernel, etc. What happen with the galery? It´s pathetically slow, and the same for the music player when it have to load the covers, the launcher is not fluid and not to talk about the ics telephone dialer.
What makes me laugh is that yesterday I install in my arc the xperia s ICS apps, and what surprise! the gallery works super fast, launcher with no lag, walkman with equializer, mega bass, more and beautiful widgets, the phone dialer opens instantly and many other features.
Sony this is the promise of been updated 18 months? What Xperia arc users have done to deserve this?
Why the xperia S software works better on a 2011 telephone? Very bad sony!
Why don´t you install the new software in the 2011 phones by default, you have it already created!!! But no, you have to give us very bad optimized software, yes I understand this is an strategy to make us buying a new phone....this is the time to take note sony! Give us what whe want.
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how did you get megabass ?? i have only the equilizer
philansel7 said:
how did you get megabass ?? i have only the equilizer
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I think he ment ClearBass ...
arpith.fbi said:
Marketing strategy dude!! the dirty strategy!
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I feel played, the phone wasn't cheap
redskilldough said:
I feel played, the phone wasn't cheap
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its ok dude..as long as we have good developers we shouldnt worry about anything.
Be happy that you have world's most best looking phone
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I think he ment ClearBass ...
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yeah LOL clearbass !! got it from another post and flash it via CWN and now i have surround, equilizer and ClearBass.
Can someone please tell me if the camera can shoot repeated shots now with ICS?
And also, is this build stable? Cause i've seen some people saying that the phone lags with ICS.
mojo22 said:
Can someone please tell me if the camera can shoot repeated shots now with ICS?
And also, is this build stable? Cause i've seen some people saying that the phone lags with ICS.
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No it does not shoot repeated shots, buy you can download the app called fast burst camera lite from the market that does. Also if you flash Arconium 4.0 and Trinity kernel V1.6, then flash the Xperia S apps you will have a nice fast and stable ICS.
jlmcr87 said:
Letter to sonymobile:
I´m an angry Xperia Arc user. Like other users i have been here giving feedback, requesting new things, but i see nothing..........xperia arc is laggy, slow, have and old kernel, etc. What happen with the galery? It´s pathetically slow, and the same for the music player when it have to load the covers, the launcher is not fluid and not to talk about the ics telephone dialer.
What makes me laugh is that yesterday I install in my arc the xperia s ICS apps, and what surprise! the gallery works super fast, launcher with no lag, walkman with equializer, mega bass, more and beautiful widgets, the phone dialer opens instantly and many other features.
Sony this is the promise of been updated 18 months? What Xperia arc users have done to deserve this?
Why the xperia S software works better on a 2011 telephone? Very bad sony!
Why don´t you install the new software in the 2011 phones by default, you have it already created!!! But no, you have to give us very bad optimized software, yes I understand this is an strategy to make us buying a new phone....this is the time to take note sony! Give us what whe want.
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it's a marketing strategy
if all 2011 xperia phones get the same software as those 2012 xperia phones
then there will be no selling points for those 2012 xperia phones
marketing is not just only about giving what customer wants, but also making customer wants.
but now it seems that sony just p*** us off by just porting some of the xperia S apps on gingerbread to ICS without optimizing them (while those news phones have new apps, e.g. dialer, walkman), some stock apps remains the same except a polished icon (like the stock alarm, music player, etc) i bet the xperia S apps on ICS are optimized for ICS
it's not the first time that sony p*** users off, everything marketing campaign (all early birds receive almost no promotional offer), releasing arc S at the same price of arc ~6 months after arc was released. sony makes beautiful phone but doesn't do beautiful marketing
Hi.
I love the whole Xperia Z rom and it would be great if someone can create a Xperia Z rom for the I9505.
(lockscreen, launcher, appdrawer, notificatin center, quick toggles, menu, applications etc)
I know there a few things from the Z, like launcher and media apps and I use them, but there a still a few things left for a Z feeling! (especially lockscreen and notification bar/toggles)
Thanks.
The only thing I need from the Z is location-based wifi, the rest is pretty much already ported.
robogo1982 said:
The only thing I need from the Z is location-based wifi, the rest is pretty much already ported.
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Sure? Can you show me working lockscreen for the I9505?
Wishlist for the Official Sony Lollipop Update
A few days ago, i did post a thread on the general forum for the Z2, about what the others and I wished to be added/changed in the coming Sony lollipop update. The thread did become a bit popular and many users did came with opinions and thoughts about what could be added/changed in the next update. Therefor I felt that i want to do the same in the Sony-Cross-device forum, because i wanted to hear different opinions from several Xperia device users. So please welcome me
English is not my native language, so please ignore any sort of mistakes in grammars or anything related
What follows of text isn´t confirmed and just predicts and thoughts regarding what i want from Sony in the Lollipop update. Please take this as a wishlist and don´t be negative when judging. Please read the whole post before commenting or taking any type of action. Okay folks, then let´s begin the journey!
Fluid and smooth User interface [UI] with theming
As people have seen, the Xperia Z2 is running kitkat with UI-theming from Sony on top. We have seen examples of android phones that haven´t the opportunity to hold the spirit of the fluid UI which leads to slow operations and people smashing phones [Dont take my word for it ] because of OEM´s doing "Heavy-theming". But then the questions is: Why theming? Because theming allows to take customization to a whole new level. And Sony has done a really great job here. But what i want/wish from Sony is to provide an update which presents an enhanced fluid UI.
Design
In the past few months websites, designs, games, applications etc are all affected by the new "wave" which is the so called "Material Design". And Google came with a remarkably revolutionary idea. As the technology develops, the design factor are also in development and growths as time goes. The Material design is basically based on flat UI while focusing mainly on animations. But before the Material design took the spotlights, some OEM´s did have examples of what UI looks alike. LG´s UI and Samsung have done a really great job in this sector. Look at screenshots/attachment:
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Picture of the LG UI & Picture of the TouchWiz (Samsung) UI
I actually love these UI´s and I badly want Sony to implement this "Flatness" in their UI and get some "Material Design" inspiration implemented in their UI. So Sony please do this job nicely.
[Kudos to @fluxxis] Agree, my first wish is that they do a proper redesign of the Xperia UI with Material Design influences. The TV SideView app got a new logo a month ago which could be a preview of what's to come with Android L, so I still hope they are on the right way.
In addition I want to see more CLASSY themes from Sony. The core themes on the device are ok, but the additional themes from the app store (IMO) suck. Too much color, confusing backgrounds, non-stock navigation icons, childish themes (Mickey & Co). I would like to see more stylish, simple but classy themes. Just as an example, I like these CM11 theme https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...rayford85.flat (Yeah, that's not Sony style, so they don't have to copy it exactly like that.)
I would like to see the core apps get an overhaul as well. I love the Gallery app, one of the best from Sony, but the Contacts app for example looks a little bit old. Especially Xiaomi and Huawei have done an outstanding job with redesigning their core apps in Emui 3 and Miui 6 and I hope that Sony will take a step in the right direction too.
Services and power
Android users has since a long time known the fact that custom roms which is bloatware free and customized runs in most occasions better than stock roms. And that has simply one explanation: Elements are removed. And we are not just talking apps/bloatware. We are talking about boot elements, unnecessary files, mods etc which speeds up the processing power because unwanted elements are removed. And this is where RAM comes in the picture. Even if the Z2 have 3GB RAM, i always have under 1 GB, and never have any apps in multitasking. Though this is said, the device still holds very nicely and can operate heavy tasks like gaming etc. So what i wish from Sony is to remove some bloatware and stuff to optimize RAM and storage, so we can get more of it.
Software functions
Camera: [Kudos to @fertsch] Camera Algorithms. Sony has built in a 20.7 MP camera with an f2.0 aperture which is awesome but their Software Algorithms aren't really optimized in my opinion.(Some times Color Temperature is too cold in Auto Mode or the pictures look lifeless due to lack of color intensity). Not that I'm unhappy with the Z2 Camera(not at all) but for a High-End Device they could do some improvements to them especially because they advertise the Z2 mostly for its 20.7 Megapixel Cam.
[Kudos to @Envious_Data] I would love manual focus in the camera. You cant just throw a very capable camera on a phone and not have more control This is where i think Xperias Faulter because we can create some Near DSLR results with more manual controll yet taking pictures is usualy hindered by the limits on manual whitebalance and lack of manual focus.
[Kudos to @fluxxis] I hope the camera will improve further. I have a little child and no time to play with the custom settings in real life - I want the Superior Auto Mode to finally deliver what the name promises. Right now too many pictures have wrong color balancing (more than one time even Photoshop couldn't help) and sometimes bad exposure which are my main complains.
Stock notifications and Mail app from Android L please.
The last one is my personal preference: I prefer the quick settings implementation of Google or LG. For example to get to the Bluetooth settings (common task because I own some bluetooth speakers I want to connect to on occasion) on Xperia UI I have to swipe down, swipe left, long press on the Bluetooth button, select settings. On other devices I simply have to swipe down and long press the button.
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If i did forget to mention something or you have some ideas and thoughts you like me to add, feel free to mention it in the comments. And if you have some positive and negative feedback, feel also free to mention it in the comments.
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See ya next time
I hope it wouldn't be like samsung lollipop update.. Nothing much is changed in the design.
Yeah. I wish Sony update their UI to a more flatened one
lgv2800 said:
Yeah. I wish Sony update their UI to a more flatened one
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my Friend:
Given the history of the years from Sony:I believe that the new design will not happen
But we can hope
Xperia Z: I wish full working HeadsUp norification option (witch disable option to people who dont like that)
@lgv2800 Check if your wishlist is completed! Sony has announced Z4 tablet and M4 Aqua running official Sony's Lollipop UI.. check it out.. So FLaT and Awesome..
Just watch M4 Aqua review from btek.
Sadly Sony's Lollipop UI did not change munch compare to 4.4.4.
Old weather widget, old launcher, old theme chooser, wall picker.
El.Guaje said:
Just watch M4 Aqua review from btek.
Sadly Sony's Lollipop UI did not change munch compare to 4.4.4.
Old weather widget, old launcher, old theme chooser, wall picker.
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But new systemui like stock android
I wish they enabled raw image capturing. Every big dog out there uses Sony sensor and ouperforms our devices..
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I wish they enabled raw image capturing. Every big dog out there uses Sony sensor and ouperforms our devices..
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+1
Without the new camera API, I don't see a reason for switching to Lollipop.
gamzekal said:
But new systemui like stock android
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I love it but I wonder, Sony Devs are lazy or out of idea or some classified strategy?
Most of sony's widgets are old and the new UI look something "unbalance" unlike 4.4.4
I love the UI of stock android. I just want that Sony keep all UI from ASOP, add their icon, widgets and done.
BlAckXpeRia said:
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Without the new camera API, I don't see a reason for switching to Lollipop.
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Me either,
hows about smarter functions
e.g double tap to wake has a prevent accidental wake feature (if the proximity sensor is activated)
toucblock automaticly enables if it gets too many random non human touches (like water would do on a screen)
Dual window - you may think dual window isnt very useful but go get your self a LG G3 and play with the dual window. its suprizingly useful and nice to use.
i can enjoy music on youtube while texting or even have a movie up while im doing work on google docs, or i could be managing some of my files while video chatting or something like that.
This function using 3 of 100 People.Rather working on Fullscreen. I used it often on my S3, but now ist a unusable funkction, cause of much fullwipes.
dkionline said:
This function using 3 of 100 People.Rather working on Fullscreen. I used it often on my S3, but now ist a unusable funkction, cause of much fullwipes.
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i ment the version thats built into LG G3, i had some fun with A G3 for a while and i had no issues with dual window
though the LG G3 is a laggy nonsenstical here and there.
A better battery life and camera
Group Ringtone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjo0IUEy3Ec&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Sony's lollipop is clearly seen here!
It's totally stock AOSP with just small apps switcher added and their own launcher and media apps ?
I was expecting much themed rom
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Even the lockscreen is ditto AOSP
Prasad98 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjo0IUEy3Ec&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Sony's lollipop is clearly seen here!
It's totally stock AOSP with just small apps switcher added and their own launcher and media apps
I was expecting much themed rom
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Even the lockscreen is ditto AOSP
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The NEW UI would be on a Z4 perhaps.. For now since Z4 will be launched after a year of Z3's launch, i think Z4 will get the NEW UI plus more features..
tOrNadO™ said:
The NEW UI would be on a Z4 perhaps.. For now since Z4 will be launched after a year of Z3's launch, i think Z4 will get the NEW UI plus more features..
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No doubt about that. We can only wait for now and see what sony's got for us.
I want the new LDAC codec support (if it's possible)
Either you are using stock 4.3.3 or CM 12.1 or 13 (as CM Theme Engine is really powerful), share the name of theme you are using and if possible share link from where you have downloaded. No warez links please.
Screenshots of home-screen would be highly appreciated. :laugh:
I use Levo by Pixkart (CM12 theme)
It is not a theme, to be exact, but it is an app to generate a theme, from which you can manually choose colours for different apps! It is the most customisable CMTE theme i can find so far, and I really recommend you to use it!
Sadly though, the development is on hiatus and on a slow pace because the developer had an accident. But he really did teased a screen shot of the upcoming Levo that would completely support CM13 theme engines! I can't wait for it
Oh yeah and I have to say although the theme works fine on CM13, it would still give some minor problems to your CM13 experience. One problem i find so far is the Accounts section in Settings crashing.. Other than that it still excels very well!
It is kind of expensive if you ask me, but hey it is quite a masterpiece for me and you should definitely try it! If it is boring, or not worth your money, you can always get a refund immediately after purchase
Also i can't give any screen shot because i am not currently using the theme. But still, that is because of my lust for ultimate stability. Nah jk, actually i kind of quite often go to the Accounts section, so having the Settings crashing isnt really fun.. So i have to adapt to the boring stock theme until the new Levo pops out on my Play Store update notification
Another creation of the same person is named as Prozt. Although it is not as customisable as Levo, it is also customisable to some extent too. You might want to check it out too
I use my Xperia Z5 theme and Xperia X for CM12 and CM13
Xperia Z5 theme here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jancsessz.xperiaz5bluetheme