I have been experimenting with some various governors and have found that interactive and ondemand work best on the nexus 7. My question is which one will have better battery life on the nexus 7? Which one will have the least stuttering? Just curious. Everyone seems to state that interactive will be the better governor, but I tend to notice interactive heats up more in chrome. Anyone else notice this?
Any helps would be appreciated
-Fishwithadeagle
When running low on battery I found conservative with runnable works the best for me. Undervolting by 50-100mV and running custom kernel plus ROM can also contribute. I always turn my WiFi and GPS off when not being used. I would not know of such imperceivable details between Interactive and Ondemand as battery, stutter or heat. Mine reaches 70 degress celsius under overclocked heavy benchmarking load.
For battery life, stick with interactive or conservative.
For less lag and stuttering, use ondemand or performance.
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Wow, you couldn't be more wrong. You have it completely opposite. For better battery life, and not to have your frequency set to the highest value, almost at all times, go with ondemand. If you want less lag, and stuttering, but worse battery life, interactive.
Test it yourself with setcpu, and CPU spy, and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.
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which of the recent governors gives best performance?
lazy, interactive, smartassv2?
Thanks guys
I just use Ondemand. I've tried others but I always end going back to it.
I've heard interactive is good for performance. I was under the impression that lazy and smartass were more geared towards battery saving.
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I use lazy or ondemand typically.
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for performance, ondemand with a sampling rate of 15000 and up threshold of 98.
simms22 said:
for performance, ondemand with a sampling rate of 15000 and up threshold of 98.
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simms, I am assuming this will drain battery faster as the default sampling rate is 40000. Am I correct?
Sampling Rate – An interval (in microseconds) at which the governor will poll for updates. When this happens, the governor will decide whether to scale the CPU up or down.
Up Threshold – Defines a percentage from 1% to 100%. When the CPU load reaches this point, the governor will scale the CPU up.
i like smartassV2 1200 / 100
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simms, I am assuming this will drain battery faster as the default sampling rate is 40000. Am I correct?
Sampling Rate – An interval (in microseconds) at which the governor will poll for updates. When this happens, the governor will decide whether to scale the CPU up or down.
Up Threshold – Defines a percentage from 1% to 100%. When the CPU load reaches this point, the governor will scale the CPU up.
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no. itll actually be a little better on battery, a little more efficient than the default. and itll give the ui a little speed boost.
Isn't interactive supposed to be a 'better OnDemand'
I'm thinking it's the opposite, that on demand was an improved interactive, but I could be wrong. I really don't notice much difference between any of them. On lazy and smartassv2 I seem to get more random problems. Really though, what's best questions are left for you to explore and find out. Some people on these threads use their phone for most their computing needs and some barely even use their phone.
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i use smartass 1200/200 on matrix 10.0 kernal n havent had any issues..i get awesome battery life 18+ hours with light to moderate use
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I'm voting for interactive, I've had great battery life and performance from it fwiw
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What's actually the difference? Is there any guide to read?
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What's actually the difference? Is there any guide to read?
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ondemand – Available in most kernels, and the default governor in most kernels. When the CPU load reaches a certain point (see “up threshold” in Advanced Settings), ondemand will rapidly scale the CPU up to meet demand, then gradually scale the CPU down when it isn't needed.
interactive – Available in newer kernels, and becoming the default scaling option in some official Android kernels. The interactive governor is functionally similar to the ondemand governor with an even greater focus on responsiveness.
conservative – Available in some kernels. It is similar to the ondemand governor, but will scale the CPU up more gradually to better fit demand. Conservative provides a less responsive experience than ondemand, but can save battery.
performance – Available in most kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the “max” set value at all times. This is a bit more efficient than simply setting “max” and “min” to the same value and using ondemand because the system will not waste resources scanning for CPU load.
powersave – Available in some kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the “min” set value at all times.
userspace – A method for controlling the CPU speed that isn't currently used by SetCPU. For best results, do not use the userspace governor.
smartass – Included in some custom kernels. The smartass governor effectively gives the phone an automatic Screen Off profile, keeping speeds at a minimum when the phone is idle.
SOURCE: http://setcpu.com/#7
I've tried different configurations but always end up going for ondemand.
There is no "best governor", just like there's no best brand of beer. My favorite, however, is smartassv2. Great performance and battery life - probably one of the better compromises.
But I don't drink beer!
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Please share
1. your favorite governor (do you use any different governor on different profiles?)
2. your voltage parameters
3. Your benchmark using quadrant
Thanks
No one wants to play?
Maybe like me, they have no idea what you are talking about
What is a governor?
What voltage do you mean?
My quadrant score is 3900 ish
Thanks for the reply, I don't think I'm good enough to explain but, in a nutshell,
A governor is a a piece of code in the kernel that decides on the cpu speed. each kernel has multiple governors
voltage is where you can decide what voltage is delivered to your cpu at certain frequency. undervoltage will usually help you save battery. we have to pay attention not to go too low or it phone will freeze
download setcpu it will all become clearer
I will give this another bump before letting it die
Even I would be intrested in sharing this
currently I am using CF root with ondemand and its working all good
FM kernel with interactive. I find my phone snappier with this governor. I liked it the most with smartassv2 on Abysssomething (don't remember now) kernel, but too many teething problems with this one, had to revert to FM. I'll give it another shot soon though.
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FM kernel with interactive. I find my phone snappier with this governor. I liked it the most with smartassv2 on Abysssomething (don't remember now) kernel, but too many teething problems with this one, had to revert to FM. I'll give it another shot soon though.
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Do you use any additional profiles with Interactive?
Nope, I like the way it is.
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Nope, I like the way it is.
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Have you tried InteractiveX? Or, better yet, know the differences between the two? I am currently using smartassv2, FM kernel and have no complaints but would be interested if there was something a bit snappier when opening an app (I still get a bit of lag if I quickly select an app after unlocking the phone).
Yes, I've tried InteractiveX and OndemandX - they're both absolute rubbish (at least from my point of view). Both responsiveness and benchmark results were dismal (2800-3300 quadrant advanced). These are governors for anally retentive battery life lovers. Nothing wrong with that itself but beats the purpose when buying state of the art top shelf performance smartphone IMO.
Good to know. I appreciate the advice. Does that mean you also tried smartassv2 with the FM kernel? Any discernible difference between that and interactive, if you have? And sorry for all the questions but it saves me the trouble of trying them!
I just flashed the 1.3 FM a moment ago. Now running 100-1704 smartassv2, haven't played with voltages yet. Responsiveness in terms of screen scolling, lags & stutters seems better than 200-1400 interactive. Performance in Quadrant Advanced and Nenamark2 seems a tiny bit worse (but I don't really care about that, I use benchmarks only to roughly estimate, smoothness is what I'm after). I can't give you direct sources because I don't remember, but having spent several hours digging last weekend I concluded that for people who put performance slighly over battery life governors to be considered are interactive, smartass(v2), savagedzed and performance. Funny enough - I'm getting consistently worse benchmarks on performance governor on all kernels. I wonder why?
Thanks again. I will play around with some of the governors and settings to find the right fit. I think I will try savagedzen next but I am pretty happy with smartassv2 and may just stick with it.
Handy explanation of most of the governor options available in custom Note kernels: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369817
AND
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242323
Smartassv2 and vr. After reading a bit about it they seem to be the best for performance and balanced battery life.
i share with you my SetCPU config, voltage ...
it's very stable for me. It's not performance oriented but battery friendly.
what you think ?
EDIT : I use AbyssNote Kernel 1.2
I'm getting nice results here on FM Kernel 1.3. 1704mHz (1375mV) - 100mHz (775mV), lulzactive governor. 5000-5872 in Quadrant advanced, 32-35 in Nenamark2. Battery life good with low to med usage, poor when playing games, running satnav etc. - hardly a surprise We'll see about stability but so far so good.
This thread is finally picking off ! thank you all
I am currently on FM 1.3 and preferring lulzactive
I don't use any over clocking I guess I don't dare. is it safe?
I think i'm pretty aggressive with under voltage i'm running 1175mv at 1400mhz and 775mv at 200mhz. For some reason my phone freezes any time I use the 100mhz no matter the voltage .
Can you share the whole voltage for a comparison ?
with all this I can hardly get a full day of use with my battery but I guess I'm a pretty heavy on usage. no gaming or anything extensive but wifi-browsing-emails-3g-bluetooth all day
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For some reason my phone freezes any time I use the 100mhz no matter the voltage .
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I read on some other kernel thread that Samsung's implementation of the 100mhz step is incomplete/buggy. That's probably why it doesn't work properly.
The Best CPU Governor for Performance and also Battery life seems to be Interactive or Intellidemand.
For indepth Kernel Benchmarks and CPU Governor tests go to my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2625656
Here are SunSpider 1.0.2 benchmarks to prove the point.
(Lower is better)
ondemand: 1,200ms
intellidemand: 540ms
interactive: 520ms
conservative: 650ms
iPhone 5s:450ms
Conclusion: It is amazing that with this phone we can achieve performance that is close to the 64bit processor of the iPhone 5S. Screw Apple. (Just Kidding) Interactive is the best CPU governor. The end.
Lastly, you may wonder why I only posted Sunspider Benchmark results because that is only a javascript test and doesn't prove how the kernel will perform overall. First of all let me state that those numbers are after extensive testing under numerous different Stock and KitKat roms and Kernel combinations. Secondly, in terms of AnTuTu and Quadrant scores, you can expect them to be the same across all the CPU governors above. But the sunspider can be helpful in gauging browser performance. And since most users browse the web on their smartphones, it is wise to switch away from the default ondemand or ondemanplus which is a much more conservative version of ondemand, and instead use intellidemand or interactive or conservative.
It is interesting that conservative provides good performance and sunspider results. Maybe if you really want to be sure you have good battery life, you should stick with conservative. Although in all honesty, battery life is dependent on your brightness, and subsequently amount of screen on time, and then of course, the amount of CPU intensive tasks you perform like gaming, or Web Browsing. So differences between governors and battery life will be minimal if you do not adjust your user behavior...
I'm using a LS980 Sprint LG G2. I suspect that across variants results should be the same since SoC are based on the Snapdragon 800.
Conservative micro stuttered too much for my liking. Stuck to interactive.
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I have my G4 unlocked and rooted on 10C, and thought I would try some Kernel Setting experiments using Trickster.
Stock settings use Interactive.
So I tried Userspace but seems that Userspace sets the clock speed to full nearly 90% of the time for me.
So I decided to give Ondemand and read ahead 1024 CFQ a try.
Maybe a placebo? But watching the cpu clock speeds, it doesn't seem to hang up at 1248 like it does in Interactive and drops much quicker back to 384, but equally ramps up quicker too.
I seem to get less battery drain when browsing instead of Interactive 512 CFQ (Stock setting) after a few days testing.
I know very little about kernels on Android, but thought I would share my findings if anyone is interested.
damn i hope root will come fast, i need to have conservative govenor, as it the only one that plays ppsspp tekken well.
the major isue I see is the actual hotplug that keeps all cores always on.
That is pretty strange...LG's devs must be sleeping while our cores are not
Didn't find Conservative in the options. Only Interactive, Userspace, Ondemand, Powersave, & Performance.
Haven't tried Powersave yet though?
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Didn't find Conservative in the options. Only Interactive, Userspace, Ondemand, Powersave, & Performance.
Haven't tried Powersave yet though?
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I wouldn't play with actual governors and let them at their default value until we have a custom kernel.
Thanks, but I am still finding Ondemand seems to give me less battery drain under use such as web browsing.
After I flashed twrp and rooted my honor 7, I decided to tweak around in kernel adiuter. I saw the stock governor was ondemand and changed it to interactive because I saw alot of positive feedback on that one. After a couple of days wondering why my battery life was reduced by half and not noticing any significant performance increase I decided to put it back on ondemand. The battery problem was gone.
I really dont think interactive should drain that much more battery so I think its some kind of bug in the stock kernel (using stock B371).
Interactive steps up or down your CPU clock in a snappy way, for ex. it will go from 450MHz to 1000MHz in a single step, but ondemand goes up and down reading the kernel's frequency steppings, interactive scales clock speed over a timer, so it stays on high frequency even if the app needing it has been closed. So, interactive is very responsive than ondemand, but is not battery friendly. Hence the battery drain.