Hey everyone,
I recently purchased the Gs4 and excited to root again. I was looking through the forums and had some questions. Should I use Titanium Backup for restoring data or TWRP? I did a nandroid of my stock ATT rom and want to install Liquidsmooth and then restore my apps and settings on top of that. Is this possible or do i need to be on a custom ROM first then backup my data and restore my data for future updates. Thanks, let me know!
It's recommended to never backup system data only app data. If you are staying on the same Rom your normally okay with setting but I don't recommend it. I do all my apps through TB, and my device id.
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I am planning on installing a custom ROM, currently I am running stock one. Anyways, I was reading online that some people had problems with Titanium backup restore so I was wondering if it would be possible for me to do a backup using clockworkmod and then restore the data partition ONLY using Advanced Restore option to restore my apps and data.
I think clockworkmod is more reliable.
Will this work? since I will be using different ROM's?
Thanks.
Hello quick question here If my phone is already rooted with stock rom and I flash CM on it will I lose my data?
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Hello quick question here If my phone is already rooted with stock rom and I flash CM on it will I lose my data?
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Yes. to prevent any issues it is advised to wipe all data before flashing. One of the things you learn to deal with when flashing custom roms.
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Hello quick question here If my phone is already rooted with stock rom and I flash CM on it will I lose my data?
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You'll want to wipe your data partition when you flash between ROMs. You can use Titanium Backup to backup your user apps before you flash CM (it might be a good idea to copy the TitaniumBackup folder off of your phone after you've made the backup if you aren't familiar with flashing or wiping, if you wipe the internal SD you're backups will be deleted!). Once you've flashed CM you can download Titanium Backup from the market and restore from your backup.
While you can backup/restore system apps as well you'll get weird results between ROMs (which usually results in wiping and starting over again anyway), so my advice is to only restore system apps/data when flashing the same ROM.
Your virtual SD card will not be wiped.
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Thx very helpful.
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Hey guys!
So yesterday, I installed the app 'Android Control Center'. I messed around with a few settings and ended up in a bootloop. I do not have anything backed up in Titanium backup. So I made a nandroid backup in the hope that id be able to restore my apps out of that by using nandroid manager, but all of my app data were not extracted from the nandroid. So now im planning to restore the nandroid backup and use TWRPs file manager to remove that apk and its data. Are there any other things I should do to fix this problem? Will this work??
Guys, any help is appreciated!!!
Hardly believe that app can cause your system into bootloop... anyway, if you want to try.
Titanium Backup can restore apps from Nandroid backup, preferably CWM tar backup. However, this function is currently having issues with Android 4.3, so if you want to reflash the ROM, pick ROM with 4.2.2.
I believe TWRP backup should also works, but I haven't try it before. If you need to use TWRP, do it without compression & encryption.
IMO your problem can be a simple fix by remove the faulty app and reflash the ROM.
just reflash your rom via recovery, dont wipe, you wont lose any data
Alright thanks for the response. I copied my TWRP backup to my PC, extracted it and now I'm trying to copy the data folder from my TWRP backup to my ROM's data folder. Hopefully, this will work.
PS - I removed the app and i reflashed the rom but that didn't seem to fix the problem.
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OK, I've been doing this for a while but was thinking this could be an issue. I usually SWP Roms pretty often, but lately have been just upgrading to the latest Purity ROM when available. Before I upgrade I do a full titanium back up with titanium pro. I factory reset my phone, install ROM, gapps, and custom kernel. I go through the normal Google setup and make sure titanium downloads as quickly as possible. Then I restore apps and system data from backup. I'm wondering if it actually defeats the purpose of the factory reset if I am restoring system data. Should I change my process?
Thanks
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OK, I've been doing this for a while but was thinking this could be an issue. I usually SWP Roms pretty often, but lately have been just upgrading to the latest Purity ROM when available. Before I upgrade I do a full titanium back up with titanium pro. I factory reset my phone, install ROM, gapps, and custom kernel. I go through the normal Google setup and make sure titanium downloads as quickly as possible. Then I restore apps and system data from backup. I'm wondering if it actually defeats the purpose of the factory reset if I am restoring system data. Should I change my process?
Thanks
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If you are just upgrading/updating the rom that's already installed, normally it's ok to dirty flash. When I do that, I normally wipe the cache and dalvik via recovery then flash the new version. If the devs say not to dirty flash and to do a full wipe (not the sdcard), then I would go with what they say to do.
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Gjohnson7771 said:
OK, I've been doing this for a while but was thinking this could be an issue. I usually SWP Roms pretty often, but lately have been just upgrading to the latest Purity ROM when available. Before I upgrade I do a full titanium back up with titanium pro. I factory reset my phone, install ROM, gapps, and custom kernel. I go through the normal Google setup and make sure titanium downloads as quickly as possible. Then I restore apps and system data from backup. I'm wondering if it actually defeats the purpose of the factory reset if I am restoring system data. Should I change my process?
Thanks
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Titanium backs up the system apps. ( although I only backup the user apps ) And when u wipe everything from the recovery, you are basically wiping away the rom. So I dont think it 'defeats the purpose' .
Just some advice, I have run into problems with titanium restoring system apps and data, so I recommend u just backup the user apps. And if u are updating the rom, its ok to dirty flash ( flash without wiping data )
It recommended to only backup user data apps only as once you changed to other ROM, the system data app might cause issue.
When upgrading to a newer version of the same ROM, save yourself the time and just dirty flash. But do make the backups in case anything goes wrong. If you have issues after a dirty flash, just try a clean flash.
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So I'm using the normal rom and wanted to install cm14 and was totally confused about the best and simplest way to backup and restore stuff.
Then I read this in the cm blog and got even more confused :/
Points to NOTE:
– Try to avoid restoring apps backup using Titanium Backup. It may break things up.
– Don’t restore system data using Titanium Backup! It will definitely break the current installation.
– It is also discouraged to Restoring Apps + Data using Titanium Backup.
Twrp does backups safestrap also does and flashfire also makes backups also Philz touch recovery aka cwm these should all work for you
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For me personally I would ignore those statements, I have used titanium backup since the past two years and have not had any issues. Although you will need to make sure you adhere to it's instructions.
I would recommend
Doing nandroids from the custom recovery before installing anything from recovery or switching to another rom, because it is a lot easier to restore a nandroid than having to, install the rom and gapps, customise the settings to your preference, reinstalling all the apps from fresh and so on. Which is great because you just continue where you left off before you decided to do a nandroid.
Use titanium backup to backup apps and data, also there are options to save your WIFI network settings and sms threads. So when you do a new custom rom / stock rom flash all you have to worry about is configuring the android settings.