It's a Rogers a 501 running randomblame's jellytime build 3(awesome ROM!) with v8 unlocked bootloader and 1.7.3 thor CWM. I was hoping to test the data on this ROM. I've seen I can buy the code and Rogers wants $50 but I would prefer to find a free way of doing it. I unlocked my galaxy s3 by using the *#197328640# into phone. Anyone figure out a way to unlock on this acer a501 tab?
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It's a Rogers a 501 running randomblame's jellytime build 3(awesome ROM!) with v8 unlocked bootloader and 1.7.3 thor CWM. I was hoping to test the data on this ROM. I've seen I can buy the code and Rogers wants $50 but I would prefer to find a free way of doing it. I unlocked my galaxy s3 by using the *#197328640# into phone. Anyone figure out a way to unlock on this acer a501 tab?
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In the past, there has been some success of getting the unlock code, by repeatedly e-mailing Rogers, ATT, or whichever provider you purchased the tablet from.
Typically, those that had success, simply explained they purchased the tablet and currently do not live in the area where the network coverage is. Also, in the beginning, some overseas folks bought the tablet not knowing it was sim locked to a specific network. Of course it took several e-mails, and persistance.
Unfortunately, there is no known way to generate the "unlock code", at least here at XDA. Also, some of the "unlock sites" who claim they can do it, generally can't. Although there was 1 case where the user sent his tablet to them, then got it back a week or so later.
The sim unlock codes are "device specific", which means you can't use another's unlock code.
So your best bet, especially if the tablet is over a year or so old, is to argue your point with Rogers, in a polite way of course. Perhaps they might eventually give the unlock code for free. Always remember to be polite.
Cheers!
MD
Thanks for the info! I will try emailing them and see if I can put on some charm. Too bad tho if you could find the file or get into the device like you can with the Samsung's it would make life so much easier! Also anyone who reads this randomblame's jellytime build 3 is an awesome rom! I have been using it daily and it is incredibly stable working great! Anyone with an a501 should try this out!
Moscow Desire said:
In the past, there has been some success of getting the unlock code, by repeatedly e-mailing Rogers, ATT, or whichever provider you purchased the tablet from.
Typically, those that had success, simply explained they purchased the tablet and currently do not live in the area where the network coverage is. Also, in the beginning, some overseas folks bought the tablet not knowing it was sim locked to a specific network. Of course it took several e-mails, and persistance.
Unfortunately, there is no known way to generate the "unlock code", at least here at XDA. Also, some of the "unlock sites" who claim they can do it, generally can't. Although there was 1 case where the user sent his tablet to them, then got it back a week or so later.
The sim unlock codes are "device specific", which means you can't use another's unlock code.
So your best bet, especially if the tablet is over a year or so old, is to argue your point with Rogers, in a polite way of course. Perhaps they might eventually give the unlock code for free. Always remember to be polite.
Cheers!
MD
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Well I have found a site cellunlocker.net who was able to gererate the unlock code. Only problem code not accepted in cm 10.1 so I am going to try and flash the stock ICS a501 and hope it will work on that.
EDIT- just tried this on Acer_AV041_A501_0.001.00_WW_GEN1 (Stock ICS pre-rooted)
With baseband version: Cust:R3C01 Config:R4B01 Conf:R3C01 Protocol:R3B01 App:R3C01
My other option is to downgrade further back to HC bootloader and HC rom. The other issue is I can't find any roms that end in PA_ROG(Rogers based ROMS). My stock 3.2 was ACER_A501_4.042.01_PA_ROG didn't back up but everything I can find to flash ends in COM1. Will I still be able to unlock without actually being on a rogers based ROM? I know I'm going to find out soon but any help is appreciated. If anyone has this rom ACER_A501_4.042.01_PA_ROG you'd make my life much simpler!! Would the skrilax v8 unlocked bootloader have any effect on this or not? Just wondering if going back to honeycomb is really even worth trying especially if I don't have a Rogers based rom to try.
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Well I have found a site cellunlocker.net who was able to gererate the unlock code. Only problem code not accepted in cm 10.1 so I am going to try and flash the stock ICS a501 and hope it will work on that.
EDIT- just tried this on Acer_AV041_A501_0.001.00_WW_GEN1 (Stock ICS pre-rooted)
With baseband version: Cust:R3C01 Config:R4B01 Conf:R3C01 Protocol:R3B01 App:R3C01
My other option is to downgrade further back to HC bootloader and HC rom. The other issue is I can't find any roms that end in PA_ROG(Rogers based ROMS). My stock 3.2 was ACER_A501_4.042.01_PA_ROG didn't back up but everything I can find to flash ends in COM1. Will I still be able to unlock without actually being on a rogers based ROM? I know I'm going to find out soon but any help is appreciated. If anyone has this rom ACER_A501_4.042.01_PA_ROG you'd make my life much simpler!! Would the skrilax v8 unlocked bootloader have any effect on this or not? Just wondering if going back to honeycomb is really even worth trying especially if I don't have a Rogers based rom to try.
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Mate, save yourself some heartache. The AT&T and Rogers tablets came with configurations that are different than the unlocked 501's. The code, as I mentioned before, is based on the IMEI number ( International Mobile Station Equipment Identity) which is independent of the Operating System version.
As with the Bootloader if you were to roll back to an HC Rom, your V8 bootloader would be replaced by a new stock bootloader.
As I said, your best bet would be communication with Rogers, or just save some heartache and pay the $50.
MD
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Mate, save yourself some heartache. The AT&T and Rogers tablets came with configurations that are different than tjusthe unlocked 501's. The code, as I mentioned before, is because on the IMEI number ( International Mobile Station Equipment Identity) which is independent of the Operating System version.
As with the Bootloader if you were to roll back to an HC Rom, your V8 bootloader would be replaced by a new stock bootloader.
As I said, your best bet would be communication with Rogers, or just save some heartache and pay the $50.
MD
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Thank you. So basically it wouldn't matter what rom or bootloader(locked or unlocked) I was on the code would work if I get the right code? I just wouldn't of wanted to pay the $50 and have it not work because of bootloader or rom. I didn't think the ROM you were on would be the issue but I didn't know if the v8 unlocked bootloader could be an issue?
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Thank you. So basically it wouldn't matter what rom or bootloader(locked or unlocked) I was on the code would work if I get the right code? I just wouldn't of wanted to pay the $50 and have it not work because of bootloader or rom. I didn't think the ROM you were on would be the issue but I didn't know if the v8 unlocked bootloader could be an issue?
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No problem Mate. The sim unlocking debate was looked into well over a year ago or longer. Acer programmed a module that runs independent of the android operating system. A lot of guys bought these tabs while visiting the States, because of it's discounted price at the stores. Just didn't know you had to use an AT&T sim card, which of course you can't get in Europe. The stores of course didn't tell them this when they bought them.
As with the bootloader, it has nothing to do with it. The bootloaders are the same between roms. Only big differences are with the major versions (HC, ICS), so example an AT&T rom uses the same bootloader as the non AT&T rom, same with Rogers. Although they may issues updates with different bootloader.blob's to patch security holes (root vulnerabilities). But generally most HC roms will run with any HC bootloader. Same with ICS. The only exception was the 3.2.1 HC that was never fully published for the 501. It was a bit strange when I did the custom rom for it. Had to install it 2 or 3 times to make it stick But was a smooth running rom.
Wish you luck with getting Rogers to unlock it. Still, I would go with persistent e-mailing higher up their customer service chain first, before shelling out the $50. Especially if you've had their service for over a year.
MD
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I recently bougth A501 in California and shipped it to Poland. First thing I checked was the OS Version. 3.0.1. Check for updates, your version is up to date. So I wrote to Acer and this is what they replied.
"Thank you for contacting Acer America. My name is xxxxx and badge number is xxxxxx. I will be happy to assist you.
I understand that you have concern regarding the Android update. I can understand how difficult this is.
Without a valid serial number, we are unable to pull up the product details. We request you send the correct serial number which is 22 digit alphanumeric or 11 digit SNID number such that we can assist you further. There is not a physical label with the serial number on the Acer ICONIA TAB, but there is a label with the tablet's SNID number on the underside of the MicroSD/SIM card cover. Also, both the serial number and the SNID number can be found in the tablet's menus. To locate both the serial and SNID numbers, simply follow the steps below:
1. From the Home Screen, tap on Apps, and then Settings.
2. Tap on About Tablet, and then Device Information.
For further clarifications please feel free to visit our website:- http://support.acer.com/
Have a great day!
"
So after really nice reply I sent them my SN and SNID.
After that they replied.
"Thank you for contacting Acer America. My name is xxxxxx, badge number xxxxxx. I'll be happy to assist you.
As per your mail I understand that you have concern regarding the Android update.
I have verified the Serial Number and found that your system is covered under Standard Limited Warranty.
Please be informed that no updates planned at this time. Any A501 updates require the carrier to approve. I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience.
For further clarifications please feel free to visit our web site: http://support.acer.com
Thank you for contacting Acer.
Have a great day!
Respectfully,
Acer America Online Technical Support."
So now I know two people from Acer, that I don't want to know, and I know something about a Carrier that I don't have, or is it about AT&T?. In this way why won't the AT&T let me update my A501? Where can i get 3.2? Can I take simlock down and then update? Or do I need to root the device (which I would not do, my rooted Desire is enough for me). I do have some AT&T stuff on my Iconia. I really thought that polish carriers are slow in updateing their devices, but now I can see that we are not the worst. I believe 3.2 is couple of months available now. You were always a very helpfull and provided forum support where the big companies refuse or won't have time to help, so I hope there is a chance to update my Iconia A501 to 3.2 without rooting the device.
Thank you in advance for a reply
Bart
If your on 3.01 it takes about 4.5 seconds to root your device. Download Iconiaroot 1.3 and run it. Bamm!! Your rooted. Install Acer Recovery Installer from the Market and run it. Bamm!! Now you have custom recovery. Download any A501 3.2 rom from development section in enjoy!!! Don't see why you are worried about rooting your Iconia if you have already rooted your phone.
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if your on 3.01 it takes about 4.5 seconds to root your device. Download iconiaroot 1.3 and run it. Bamm!! Your rooted. Install acer recovery installer from the market and run it. Bamm!! Now you have custom recovery. Download any a501 3.2 rom from development section in enjoy!!! Don't see why you are worried about rooting your iconia if you have already rooted your phone.
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Wow now that was easy as 1,2,3. Dammit I made it with my eyes closed (root and recovery). You got yourself a couple of virtual beers and real thanks.
Sent from my A501 using Tapatalk
See how easy that was? Welcome to the dark side
But my question, you have an AT&T a501. So, how is that 3g working?
The reason is a logical one. AT&T locked the 3g to their network only. So, that would mean, the internal 3g doesn't work there? And a local sim card, is pretty much,,,, dead?
If you found a way around this, please, share it. I don't worry, as I am unlocked here in Russia, but, several folks bought the AT&T version, then found, back home in Europe, it's dead.
Actually everything was fine with rooting etc, but I can't find any rom that will update me to 3.2. Actually there is one stock 3.2 with root and SU, but it doesn't look safe, as there were a lot of problems with it. I read the Vache thread about the full packages, and even downloaded the Acer_A501_4.027.15_COM_GEN1, but there is no update.zip or anything else like this, and he states that there needs to be update.zip to flash the full package (afaik with Desire it was the same, You could change the rom with the update.zip only). So for now I'm rooted, with CWM but still 3.0.1 as I don't know what to D/L.
There are only some folders and files, none of them is update.zip, and I don't even know if I need to put the Acer_A501_4.027.15_COM_GEN1.zip on the MicroSD or the folder extracted.
As for AT&T the only option is to take down the simlock, that costs around 5,60 EUR for the code.
I would recommend going for Thor s ROM: http://forum.tegraowners.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=79
You should also try Thor s kernel if you decide to go for his ROM.
By far the best one I've tried. If you want to try several, just use Acer recovery installer, you have to pay to use the flash feature but its well worth it if you want to try a few.
Also, here you have a pretty good list of ROM s: http://www.acertabletforum.com/forum/acer-iconia-tab-roms/1060-iconia-a500-rom-list-updated-14-dec-2011-a.html
The problem is I need a stock 3.2 as I read most roms have problems with applications compatibility, and probably most of the aplications I would like to use would not work. Second of all, after haveing like 6 different roms on my HTC Desire and going back to stock 2.3.3 I'm not having any problems at all, so would like to leave my iconia stock as well, even with bloatware.
Did Thor make a ROM for A501?
Just run the Harkon Rom. About the only thing it has, is a cooked kernel for Stock 3.2 (don't confuse the kernel with a rom)
But, it's pretty close to stock. You do not have to overclock the cpu, if you don't want to. But other than that, it's pretty much stock.
And it runs just fine ))
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So, that being said, my fine Polish friend, let me run this at you.
You bought an AT&T a501. Now, if you've figured out how to unlock the internal SIM so that you can run it on other networks, PLEASE, tell others here the procedure.
Otherwise, what you have my friend, is essentially an a500. Because your internal 3g won't work in Poland (because there is no AT&T network). Am I correct in this?
Unless of course, you have an unlocked a501 (like me)
Now, given the above, and the fact that 500 and 501 roms are essentially the same, I would say, you can run any 500 or 501 rom. Both models have the same exact hardware (except the internal 3g)
You can run a 500 rom (I often do for testing), but, you will have to use a 3g USB Dongle, because your internal 3g doesn't work.
So, run any stock 500 or 501 rom. And, Thors rom, is for the 500, no internal 3g support, but, your's doesn't work anyhow.
I bought A501 only because there were no A500 in whole California, can You imagine? If ever needed I will use my wifi router from Desire, but I don't use my tablet "on the move" so no need for 3G support. I've read the Harkon ROM thread, and I think I'll go for it. So my east border friendly neighbour, thank You for helping me with getting to 3.2. I will post the unlocking solution, when I will know if the unlock code works, and I'm still waiting for it. We do unlock on a lot of foreign phones, as I work in a company that sells unlocked phones.
Do I need different kernel ? Or the stock is just fine?
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I bought A501 only because there were no A500 in whole California, can You imagine? If ever needed I will use my wifi router from Desire, but I don't use my tablet "on the move" so no need for 3G support. I've read the Harkon ROM thread, and I think I'll go for it. So my east border friendly neighbour, thank You for helping me with getting to 3.2. I will post the unlocking solution, when I will know if the unlock code works, and I'm still waiting for it. We do unlock on a lot of foreign phones, as I work in a company that sells unlocked phones.
Do I need different kernel ? Or the stock is just fine?
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No problem my friend.
Now, I want to be sure, you have an AT&T a501. Just for me. you don't, tell.
Yes, go for Harkon, it is stock for the 501, but if your 3g doesn't work, it will be ok.
Ignore the overclock, if you don't want to. But, I can say, The tegra 2 can handle 1.4 or 1.5 ghz with no problem. It's the same processor that is used in devices (phones) at 1.2 and 1.5 ghz. So, you should be safe at 1.4/5.
Harkon is ok.
For a little more, Taboonay is ok also. But, I prefer Harkon. Tell you why later in a PM.
EDIT: Sorry. too much rum for the holiday (New Year). The stock Kernel is just fine as it has a cooked kernel. Also, if you wish, Thor's kernel 3.9r3 is a good kernel as well. I did testing for the 501. Both are good kernels. Thor,s has better battery life by about an hour or so, on my tests. But, you should try things on your own. If you like the Harkon kernel, well, ok.
If you want to use Thor, choose on his web page "other". And, before you flash, you only need to wipe Delvak in your recovery.
I run them both to be honest.
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As for AT&T the only option is to take down the simlock, that costs around 5,60 EUR for the code.
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Hello, Edenprime! A also have A501 from USA locked on AT&T.
Could you tell where can I get or buy unlock code for it?
Sorry for the delay. Unfortunately no polish unlock codes work for me so I'm doing it the official way now
Sent from my A501 using Alexandra III
My phone, the Motorola Razr HD LTE is out already since November 2012, with not as much development options as other phones.
Compare to SG3 or the Nexus 4 (newly released), it leave us with very little options when it comes to custom ROMS or functional improvements.
Some of the uncertainty is coming from the lack of communication, between the developers and the community of users, on ongoing technical issues with no solution insight (example: the Rogers issue versions 492002 vs. 49003)
The best available custom ROM is currently uncompleted, and again no communication or reassurance on the work progression.
The truth to matter is that we are lagging behind other phones when it comes to development & improvements.
Figure out a way to unlock the bootloader and you will probably see more development on this phone.
You are not your iPhone 5
#tylerdurden
I agree. I holding back doing anything because of losing the warranty.
I have to say though my XT925 is one of the first Android phones that came to me stock without the bloat I've found on Sony, LG and Samsung devices. I'm still very happy with my stock Razr HD.
SFG said:
Figure out a way to unlock the bootloader and you will probably see more development on this phone.
You are not your iPhone 5
#tylerdurden
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There already is a bootloader unlock. You can use the motorola bootloader unlock tool. I don't have a developer edition and it worked perfect for me. Other users in the forum also have their bootloaders unlocked.
itzik_man said:
My phone, the Motorola Razr HD LTE is out already since November 2012, with not as much development options as other phones.
Compare to SG3 or the Nexus 4 (newly released), it leave us with very little options when it comes to custom ROMS or functional improvements.
Some of the uncertainty is coming from the lack of communication, between the developers and the community of users, on ongoing technical issues with no solution insight (example: the Rogers issue versions 492002 vs. 49003)
The best available custom ROM is currently uncompleted, and again no communication or reassurance on the work progression.
The truth to matter is that we are lagging behind other phones when it comes to development & improvements.
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I understand how frustrated you are itzak_man because of the lack of official Rogers firmware and that you almost felt lied to by the whole XDA community over the Rogers firmware scandal. Please remember, this is a risk that you take by modifying your phone outside of the manufacturers intended usage. This its the reason why this its the first phone that I haven't modified.
That being said, I am working directly with the firmware team to try to procure an official version of the Rogers firmware. There are some server issues with the fastboot servers, so please give us a couple more weeks. I want official firmware for everyone here as well, and the ability to modify my phone in the future with the ability to return to official stock.
Sent from my XT925 using Tapatalk 2
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There already is a bootloader unlock. You can use the motorola bootloader unlock tool. I don't have a developer edition and it worked perfect for me. Other users in the forum also have their bootloaders unlocked.
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I think that the bootloader unlock that SFG is referring to is a non-Motorola warranty-voiding unlock. It's nice the Motorola supports the unlocking but it really means that they control who gets unlocked and removes any future warranty claims.
waiting for your update. Thanks for checking with the firmware team.
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danifunker said:
I understand how frustrated you are itzak_man because of the lack of official Rogers firmware and that you almost felt lied to by the whole XDA community over the Rogers firmware scandal. Please remember, this is a risk that you take by modifying your phone outside of the manufacturers intended usage. This its the reason why this its the first phone that I haven't modified.
That being said, I am working directly with the firmware team to try to procure an official version of the Rogers firmware. There are some server issues with the fastboot servers, so please give us a couple more weeks. I want official firmware for everyone here as well, and the ability to modify my phone in the future with the ability to return to official stock.
Sent from my XT925 using Tapatalk 2
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waiting for your update. Thanks for checking with the firmware team.
I think that the bootloader unlock that SFG is referring to is a non-Motorola warranty-voiding unlock. It's nice the Motorola supports the unlocking but it really means that they control who gets unlocked and removes any future warranty claims.
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Reporting after a long talk to Motorola Canada services:
The JB upgrade (which is controlled by Motorola) checks your IMEI, android version & the country code.
When I mentioned the 2 versions (492002 & 49003) no body had a clue what I am talking about !
If you bootloader is unlock by Motorola, regardless which version you got, your phone becomes an orphan; No more upgradable !
When I said that there message on line is misleading: Losing the warranty only but nothing about losing any upgrade privileges !
They agree it's wrong & "promise" to fix the worming message (after the fact).
Now I am not sure that there is or was a second version (the 49003) in Motorola arsenal. My guess is that the Boot loader unlock process does more to the phone then just unlock. Possible changing the version system...?
So,our only option is waiting & hopping that we get a full JB version upgradable by RDS.
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Reporting after a long talk to Motorola Canada services:
The JB upgrade (which is controlled by Motorola) checks your IMEI, android version & the country code.
When I mentioned the 2 versions (492002 & 49003) no body had a clue what I am talking about !
If you bootloader is unlock by Motorola, regardless which version you got, your phone becomes an orphan; No more upgradable !
When I said that there message on line is misleading: Losing the warranty only but nothing about losing any upgrade privileges !
They agree it's wrong & "promise" to fix the worming message (after the fact).
Now I am not sure that there is or was a second version (the 49003) in Motorola arsenal. My guess is that the Boot loader unlock process does more to the phone then just unlock. Possible changing the version system...?
So,our only option is waiting & hopping that we get a full JB version upgradable by RDS.
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I have a feeling they don't know what they are talking about. There are reports of a number of users who were rooted but still got the upgrade. I've reached out to a couple of them and hopefully we will get a full JB XML restore soon.
Don't forget the date and version differences between 49003 and 492002.
Unlocking the bootloader changes some of the encryption keys used, but definitely not the system version.
Sent from my XT925 using Tapatalk 2
I can understand your frustration but development takes time and requires opportunity. With a locked bootloader & lack of kexec, there simply isn't much developers can do right now. With time, good things may eventually come. But Motorola development will never match that of other popular phones.
I have a feeling they don't know what they are talking about. There are reports of a number of users who were rooted but still got the upgrade. I've reached out to a couple of them and hopefully we will get a full JB XML restore soon.
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Rooted will get you the OTA, not bootloader unlocked. Once you unlock using your IMEI, your phone info is deleted from Motorola databank.
We need to consolidate the information & comments on the Rogers ICS to JB upgrade to one topic & one location.
The subject is all over in this forum & it creates a great deal of difficulty to trace & follow the objective which is; how to fix the issue of compatibility of versions..
danifunker said:
That being said, I am working directly with the firmware team to try to procure an official version of the Rogers firmware. There are some server issues with the fastboot servers, so please give us a couple more weeks. I want official firmware for everyone here as well, and the ability to modify my phone in the future with the ability to return to official stock.
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Hi danifunker, for your efforts, thank you.
Out of curiosity:
- what causes the "delay" in you getting official firmware from rogers?
- which version(s) are you planning to get: 2002 and/or JB?
thanks!
I have uploaded Rogers ICS firmware for RAZR HD back in November: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/vanquish_u/list.php
There is no JB for it right now as I'm aware.
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I have uploaded Rogers ICS firmware for RAZR HD back in November: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/vanquish_u/list.php
There is no JB for it right now as I'm aware.
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The version available doesn't allow for OTA update to JB it's the wrong version
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I'm unfamiliar with Samsung phones (never had one), and I'm looking at getting a used/mint Galaxy S 4 for my wife. Here are the requirements:
1. SIM unlocked. I need to be able to use it on AT&T and T-Mobile networks in the US, and also other international carriers as need be when traveling, without a problem.
2. I need to have root access. Some apps that need to be installed on this phone requires root. It's not necessary to have the capability to flash custom ROM, etc. so stock ROM (or any ROM, for that matter, as long as it's stable) is fine. I just need root.
3. It has to have at least 4.3, or if possible 4.4.2. OTA capability for further update (if there will be any) is a good bonus but not required.
I likely won't be modifying this phone (flashing ROM/mods/etc.) after I set it up the first time. I'll set it up, give it to her, and forget about it.
So, which version of GS4 should I look for in ebay/swappa (and if there are any firmware requirements for easy rooting)? I'm going to be using it almost solely on a GSM-based network (currently a T-Mobile MVNO, but may switch to an AT&T MVNO soon) so AT&T version seems like an obvious choice, but I've heard that this model is a pain to SIM unlock (is it true?), while Verizon version is factory unlocked completely out of the box, and will work without a problem on AT&T or T-Mobile (and obviously overseas as well).
Can anyone give me any suggestion?
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I'm unfamiliar with Samsung phones (never had one), and I'm looking at getting a used/mint Galaxy S 4 for my wife. Here are the requirements:
1. SIM unlocked. I need to be able to use it on AT&T and T-Mobile networks in the US, and also other international carriers as need be when traveling, without a problem.
2. I need to have root access. Some apps that need to be installed on this phone requires root. It's not necessary to have the capability to flash custom ROM, etc. so stock ROM (or any ROM, for that matter, as long as it's stable) is fine. I just need root.
3. It has to have at least 4.3, or if possible 4.4.2. OTA capability for further update (if there will be any) is a good bonus but not required.
I likely won't be modifying this phone (flashing ROM/mods/etc.) after I set it up the first time. I'll set it up, give it to her, and forget about it.
So, which version of GS4 should I look for in ebay/swappa (and if there are any firmware requirements for easy rooting)? I'm going to be using it almost solely on a GSM-based network (currently a T-Mobile MVNO, but may switch to an AT&T MVNO soon) so AT&T version seems like an obvious choice, but I've heard that this model is a pain to SIM unlock (is it true?), while Verizon version is factory unlocked completely out of the box, and will work without a problem on AT&T or T-Mobile (and obviously overseas as well).
Can anyone give me any suggestion?
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Check About Phone
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This is basically the point of this thread. I need suggestions on what to check for
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This is basically the point of this thread. I need suggestions on what to check for
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Yeah I deserve that. I basically set myself up to get this answer. This is what I get for not being clear enough from the get go. Doh.
Obviously the international unlocked version is the most ideal, because there's no potential for headaches as I explained above. I of course knew this.
And yes, there are several of them available at Swappa, but they are all (understandably) much more expensive (some more than 150%) compared to the local version.
So, I guess my real question is whether I should get AT&T, T-Mobile, or Verizon version for my purposes above.
I also just examined the title of this subforum and realized that I may not be asking this on the right place. So, sorry about that. I'll switch over to the correct forum and ask this again. Thanks for answering!
As the title says, It seems the bureaucrats at EE UK network are using phones that cannot be bootloader unlocked, even if Sony do allow, albeit with some loss of features.
Considering I flashed a generic rom, and my important photos/whatsapp files got wiped (I forgot to backup) as it was stated with flashtool only account based user data will get wiped not data from internal memory/sd card, well that didn't work.
I needed to root to allow some recovery software get my photos/whatsapp files back.
Now finding that the booloader is unlockable . I just want to throw the phone at the kunts at EE management. " EE the UK's biggest and fastest growing, bunch of dicks!"
Is their anybody else on EE who's bootloader is unlockable?
I'm so depressed with this all.
You needed to root to recover deleted files that you deleted by rooting?
davestuarts said:
As the title says, It seems the bureaucrats at EE UK network are using phones that cannot be bootloader unlocked, even if Sony do allow, albeit with some loss of features.
Considering I flashed a generic rom, and my important photos/whatsapp files got wiped (I forgot to backup) as it was stated with flashtool only account based user data will get wiped not data from internal memory/sd card, well that didn't work.
I needed to root to allow some recovery software get my photos/whatsapp files back.
Now finding that the booloader is unlockable . I just want to throw the phone at the kunts at EE management. " EE the UK's biggest and fastest growing, bunch of dicks!"
Is their anybody else on EE who's bootloader is unlockable?
I'm so depressed with this all.
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In Poland Orange locks bootloaders for good in SONY devices, as I know there are tricks to make it unlockable, but not sure if possible to do it at home.
adamk7 said:
You needed to root to recover deleted files that you deleted by rooting?
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I have not rooted yet, have only applied a generic less bloated rom. But now I need to root, so I can use software like 'hexamob recovery' which needs root to access the internal memory.
Tbh, the photo's I took that got wiped are sentimentally so important, hence me getting so stressed about it.
rollesky said:
In Poland Orange locks bootloaders for good in SONY devices, as I know there are tricks to make it unlockable, but not sure if possible to do it at home.
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Oh, so orange there do the same. Here its now T-mobile/orange joined together as EE.
There must be a way to change that Bootloader state to yes. I know Orange/EE won't do it. Many people have asked in their forums about similar devices.
Thx for the insight tho...
I'll be totally honest with you here & you wont like the answer...
...if it says "bootloader unlock allowed: no" it will most probably stay that way.
My last Sony phone was from O2 & it was the same story.
The history of Sony phones with that state have stayed that way, as far as I'm aware
This means, once (optimistic) we get root you will only be able to flash stock based roms
Considering rooting newer versions of android seem to be getting more difficult, finding a way to bypass the bootloader is going to be near impossible...never say never but don't hold your breath.
The only Sony phone I had where the bootloader got unlocked unofficially was the X10 mini pro (beast phone) & that is when they were still Sony Ericsson & over 2 years after release (luckily back then you could flash CM / AOSP etc with locked bootloader, not any more though!)
Best bet is, give the phone back & buy it from a reseller like Clove / Handtec if unlocking the bootloader is that important to you & its not a contract deal you're after (or get sim only contract or something...PAYG FTW)
Otherwise, remember this for next time...
davestuarts said:
I have not rooted yet, have only applied a generic less bloated rom. But now I need to root, so I can use software like 'hexamob recovery' which needs root to access the internal memory.
Tbh, the photo's I took that got wiped are sentimentally so important, hence me getting so stressed about it.
Oh, so orange there do the same. Here its now T-mobile/orange joined together as EE.
There must be a way to change that Bootloader state to yes. I know Orange/EE won't do it. Many people have asked in their forums about similar devices.
Thx for the insight tho...
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phroenix said:
I'll be totally honest with you here & you wont like the answer...
...if it says "bootloader unlock allowed: no" it will most probably stay that way.
My last Sony phone was from O2 & it was the same story.
The history of Sony phones with that state have stayed that way, as far as I'm aware
This means, once (optimistic) we get root you will only be able to flash stock based roms
Considering rooting newer versions of android seem to be getting more difficult, finding a way to bypass the bootloader is going to be near impossible...never say never but don't hold your breath.
The only Sony phone I had where the bootloader got unlocked unofficially was the X10 mini pro (beast phone) & that is when they were still Sony Ericsson & over 2 years after release (luckily back then you could flash CM / AOSP etc with locked bootloader, not any more though!)
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What phroenix said is true.
From Xperia T (2012) onwards, there's no chance to get the bootloader unlocked if you read "bootloader unlock allowed: no".
@davestuarts Your old customization was 1289-4465 (T-mobile/EE) so I'm making a new FTF for you with that old firmware, let's try this way
istux said:
What phroenix said is true.
From Xperia T (2012) onwards, there's no chance to get the bootloader unlocked if you read "bootloader unlock allowed: no".
Sony, will they ever learn. I'm glad I didn't get rid of my viper running One X yet.
Tbh, the Sony layer on kitkit is pretty good considering and I'm plenty happy keeping stock roms, My main things are to run exposed and xprivacy.
@davestuarts Your old customization was 1289-4465 (T-mobile/EE) so I'm making a new FTF for you with that old firmware, let's try this way
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Thanks istux, appreciate the help and less stress feeling.
Tha
Hello!
I bought my mom an inexpensive S4 and it came with Orange wireless service provider and it's in French out for the box.
It's having some problem suck as MMS issues and all that, not to mention it's just being a pain in the butt to work with.
I want to flash the stock AT&T ROM to it ASAP so she will stop yelling at me about it, but I can't seem to find a copy around here. Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong areas, but I would appreciate some help locating it, thanks!
Also, it's been a while since I have done any ROM changes, so maybe showing me how they do it now would be helpful as well, thanks.
-Dave M.
AT&T ROMs cannot be installed on your phone. Odin will reject it at best, and you could hard brick the S4.
Unlock the phone by using the service menu exploit, RegionLock Away, or by purchasing an unlock code. Once the S4 is unlocked, you can install an unbranded firmware in place of the Orange-branded firmware. Keep in mind that this phone will never get LTE in the states as the frequencies are different.
Yes, I was made aware of the no 4G, no LTE issue with using a European phone by the guy who didn't know what he was doing when he programmed in the wrong APN settings at the AT&T corporate store...
Supposedly, the company I bought it off said this phone was unlocked already, so what then? It's been about 2 years since I did anything with ROMs, so I might be a little out of the know about the new stuff, thanks.
If it's already unlocked, then you can install any I9505 stock ROM you want. Download this ROM from Sammobile and follow the instructions on that page to install it. It's UK firmware so at the language prompt it will default to English. Be aware that you may have to flash the ROM twice before the S4's wireless radios function properly.
If everything goes as expected the APN should be automatically set. If not there are tutorials all over the place on adding an APN.
EDIT: Download the drivers from Samsung's website if not included in the Odin download on Sammobile. You'll need to have them installed for Odin to function.
Thanks. Now, how can I check to make sure this one is unlocked? Service mode is weird, because I had to do the Q followed by 0000 in key input to get it to give me the menu...
Put your Mom's AT&T SIM into the phone. If it asks for an unlock code then the S4 is still carrier locked.
Oh, okay. It's been working for like 2 months like this, lol.
Aren't there still a few carriers that aren't blocked for other regions? I just want to be sure, absolutely. I just want to know if there's another way to check.
Since it was Orange by origin (and those guys tend to lock stuff) I would say you would NOT be able to run AT&T on it as well (Orange ONLY lock - not really region lock)
When you say AT&T works I would assume previous owner already did what was needed and unlocked this device.
Sounds solid, thanks a bunch, fellas.
I just really wish there were a touchwiz ROM from AT&T for this particular model...
No, no you don't. If anything, you have it far easier by not having AT&T firmware. Unless of course you happen to LIKE encrypted (i.e. locked) bootloaders. AT&T and Verizon lock their bootloaders, which makes the simple things like rooting, bloatware removal, and custom ROMs far more difficult, and in some cases bordering on the impossible.
Your Mom may not give a damn, but by not having to deal with the headache of a locked bootloader you've made your life easier.
I've dealt with several so-called finished custom roms, such as the likes of such as Cyanogenmod and others, and lets just say they aren't quite as solid as the stuff that the phone comes with.
There's always something that doesn't work like it's supposed to or some important app that won't work somehow. Last time, I went with a stock rom, custom recovery (I like TWRP) and rooted the device and it ran just like I wanted. SO yeah, I'd like to use a stock touchwiz rom for the US if it's available somewhere.
I understand not wanting to toss a custom ROM on the phone, but that wasn't the point of my post. The ROM I prompted you to download several posts upthread is a stock Touchwiz ROM. In fact, up until this morning it was the same ROM I was using on my O2 I9505 that I'm using here in the US. As the I9505 is not available and never will be available from a carrier in the United States, there will never be a US ROM available for this phone. The ROM I had you download, unlike the AT&T ROM, has no carrier branding of any kind, no carrier bloatware, and no locked bootloader. As a result, you don't have the carrier meddling around with the ROM and making the experience worse by having crud added.
My point is, bluntly, that you're far better off now than you would be with an AT&T device. So, hopefully, now that you got everything sorted out your Mom can enjoy the phone.