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Hey guys, so I'm kinda new at doing custom roms and kernels and I'm super eager to learn everything. I just unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone succesfully yesterday. But of course, rooting the nexus s is a must to install custom roms.
I want to know what you guys think are GOOD and STABLE ROMS where everything seems to function.
I was looking at the nexusshacks website and they have the AOKP kang jellybean ROM but I'm hearing from a bit of people that not everything works and it freezes at the boot screen. also there's a problem that apparently you cant see your gallery and music, and also data doesnt work on it.... I just want something that works good and is stable and gives me good battery life!
Thanks for your time
MRsf27 said:
Hey guys, so I'm kinda new at doing custom roms and kernels and I'm super eager to learn everything. I just unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone succesfully yesterday. But of course, rooting the nexus s is a must to install custom roms.
I want to know what you guys think are GOOD and STABLE ROMS where everything seems to function.
I was looking at the nexusshacks website and they have the AOKP kang jellybean ROM but I'm hearing from a bit of people that not everything works and it freezes at the boot screen. also there's a problem that apparently you cant see your gallery and music, and also data doesnt work on it.... I just want something that works good and is stable and gives me good battery life!
Thanks for your time
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The best thing about these ROM is you can try them for yourself and see if it work for you.
A lot of people don't follow the instruction and complain all the time, there are people enjoying the ROM and you will never hear from them. My respect to the developers who do great work, because of them I have the latest and best android experience ever, for the last two years I have no need to upgrade my phone.
Try them all.
Robert
kwabby said:
The best thing about these ROM is you can try them for yourself and see if it work for you.
A lot of people don't follow the instruction and complain all the time, there are people enjoying the ROM and you will never hear from them. My respect to the developers who do great work, because of them I have the latest and best android experience ever, for the last two years I have no need to upgrade my phone.
Try them all.
Robert
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Cool, thanks alot for the advice, I'd still like to know what other ROMs are out there tho so that I can try them all out one day
Is there a good kernel? I'm not too educated on kernels lol
Hi
Rooting isn't a must for installing custom roms you can always use fastboot tool to install custom recovery
I've flashed one million custom roms to my i9023. And what I learned from it is flashing most of them was just a waste of time. However, if I hadn't done this, I wouldn't have known what to choose now. Gingbread roms are really fast and responsive. However they are not so smooth when it comes to scrolling. Also gingerbread roms lack a lot of nice features that come in later builds.
ICS was a misunderstanding for me. It was slow, laggy but the functionality was better than gingerbread. I was ready to sell my nexus because of that disappointment.
Finally Jelly Bean came along. And that, my friend is something different. Project butter makes the phone so smooth, scrolling is superb, animations and applications seems so smooth now. Speed of gingerbread(almost) and looks and functionality of ics
You can try every rom you can. You're gonna waste a lot of time just on flashing restoring, flashing and restoring and so on. You might even get frustrated. Or you can try this and simply start liking your phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854366
This is pretty stock, just the way I like it. It's freaking smooth, it hardly ever lags, perfect to bring you some smile from using your nexus most of other roms always come up with some bug or lack of some feature that works on stock rom. The rom I mentioned simply works. Trust me and install this one and you won't regret
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Hi
Rooting isn't a must for installing custom roms you can always use fastboot tool to install custom recovery
I've flashed one million custom roms to my i9023. And what I learned from it is flashing most of them was just a waste of time. However, if I hadn't done this, I wouldn't have known what to choose now. Gingbread roms are really fast and responsive. However they are not so smooth when it comes to scrolling. Also gingerbread roms lack a lot of nice features that come in later builds.
ICS was a misunderstanding for me. It was slow, laggy but the functionality was better than gingerbread. I was ready to sell my nexus because of that disappointment.
Finally Jelly Bean came along. And that, my friend is something different. Project butter makes the phone so smooth, scrolling is superb, animations and applications seems so smooth now. Speed of gingerbread(almost) and looks and functionality of ics
You can try every rom you can. You're gonna waste a lot of time just on flashing restoring, flashing and restoring and so on. You might even get frustrated. Or you can try this and simply start liking your phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854366
This is pretty stock, just the way I like it. It's freaking smooth, it hardly ever lags, perfect to bring you some smile from using your nexus most of other roms always come up with some bug or lack of some feature that works on stock rom. The rom I mentioned simply works. Trust me and install this one and you won't regret
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cool thanks man... ONE question before I begin... Im assuming the kernel is already in the ROM .zip file here right? Now if the kernel is seperate do you just add into the SD card like adding a ROM to the sd card? do you have to do anything under recovery?
Kernel is included. Just install this rom from the recovery kernels are always in a zip file, you install them like you install a rom.
But this time you don't have to even think about the kernel, because it's already built into whole rom zip file
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the pic & music issue is probably related to the bad Rom manager app update that put .nomedia files where they didn't belong.
I always run a new/updated Rom with its baked in kernel for a day or two to see how it does before flashing a separate kernel, unless I have major issues related to the baked in kernel. Not all devices act the same, even on the exact same setup.
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MRsf27 said:
Hey guys, so I'm kinda new at doing custom roms and kernels and I'm super eager to learn everything. I just unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone succesfully yesterday. But of course, rooting the nexus s is a must to install custom roms.
I want to know what you guys think are GOOD and STABLE ROMS where everything seems to function.
I was looking at the nexusshacks website and they have the AOKP kang jellybean ROM but I'm hearing from a bit of people that not everything works and it freezes at the boot screen. also there's a problem that apparently you cant see your gallery and music, and also data doesnt work on it.... I just want something that works good and is stable and gives me good battery life!
Thanks for your time
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If you're new to the whole flashing game with the android devices id say start with Flashing Custom Kernels. So you can get the the feel for what just the kernel can do for your phone. There's a couple well named ones that you might hear a lot about like the Matr1x Kernel, GLaDOS Kernel, Thalamus Kernel. For the most part a few of them have the same stuff but certain Kernels run faster or smoother. Once you get the hang of that then move to Custom ROMS. As everyone says you kinda have to try out Everything for yourself as 2 people can have 2 completely different experiences with flashing. Essentially though, the Names that you see a lot are typically the most liked ROMS and Kernels for there Features and Stability.
Happy Flashing
I think its the other way around due to fact that I would not recommend flashing a kernel over stock ota without backing up first. Reason for this is that if you want to get an ota update with the stock ROM it won't work if the kernel is different from the one Google provides (experienced this problem while trying to flash a completely stock Google provided rom). So I would first flash a ROM and test it, trying as many features and see if that's what I like and then start experimenting with different kernels as most might not be stable for your particular phone. I am a vanilla Android type of person nonetheless.
Note: the rom a developer chooses are most likely the ones that he thinks are the most stable so in theory you should not run into any problem with it.
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Hey guys i really appreciate the advise. Just to let you all know, I flashed AOKP kang ROM and it's so smooth and quick. I also flashed a matrix kernel v.22 (believe its the cfc version). However, I was really hoping to overclock my cpu a little to get some better gaming performance. I'm looking everything under the ROM settings and the actual phone settings to see if there's anything to change for the cpu.
How do I overclock the cpu??? I know there's customizable roms where you can overclock the cpu for games then tone it down for normal usage and what not; that's really what I wanted.
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Hey guys i really appreciate the advise. Just to let you all know, I flashed AOKP kang ROM and it's so smooth and quick. I also flashed a matrix kernel v.22 (believe its the cfc version). However, I was really hoping to overclock my cpu a little to get some better gaming performance. I'm looking everything under the ROM settings and the actual phone settings to see if there's anything to change for the cpu.
How do I overclock the cpu??? I know there's customizable roms where you can overclock the cpu for games then tone it down for normal usage and what not; that's really what I wanted.
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I use a an APP called "NSTools" or "SetCPU"
I'm order to oc, you must be using a kernel that supports oc. The matr1x 22.5 (his jb version) doesn't support oc, but he should have a new version it soon. I can't say if it can be overclocked though.
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Hey thanks for the info... I was just be wondering if you know of any kernels that would go with aokp kang that I can over clock?
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OK wow I just installed my previous apps and now the phone is slow and buggy as hell.. must've rebooted itself at least 10 Tims in then last hour while I using it
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good question.. personally I use codename (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839249) with air kernel(that supports oc, even if I set max cpu 1000 as default).. really fast, no lags with good battery life and everything seems work great. I've tried a lot of roms and a lot of them are really good (I like to change a lot) and in my opinion you have to try a lot of them and chose your favourite
p.s.every time you flash a rom or kernel is better to make a backup(and then a wipe), so if something went wrong you can restore the phone as it was before.. sometimes kernel is not included in rom, you have to check it in phone informations.
I hope this was what you needed
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good question.. personally I use codename (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839249) with air kernel(that supports oc, even if I set max cpu 1000 as default).. really fast, no lags with good battery life and everything seems work great. I've tried a lot of roms and a lot of them are really good (I like to change a lot) and in my opinion you have to try a lot of them and chose your favourite
p.s.every time you flash a rom or kernel is better to make a backup(and then a wipe), so if something went wrong you can restore the phone as it was before.. sometimes kernel is not included in rom, you have to check it in phone informations.
I hope this was what you needed
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well i'll tell you right now, AOKP kang is not for me. Keeps crashing, almost all ****ing day. Its rebooted itself atleast 10 times within the last 10 mins. i click something and it freezes and crashes and reboots... ts ****ing ridiculous... I'm gonna go to codename
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well i'll tell you right now, AOKP kang is not for me. Keeps crashing, almost all ****ing day. Its rebooted itself atleast 10 times within the last 10 mins. i click something and it freezes and crashes and reboots... ts ****ing ridiculous... I'm gonna go to codename
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ahahah ok thanks for the information you saved my time
aww I forgot a thing.. usually results are different for different models. I have i9023 but I think it's good even in other models
let me know your opinion about it
serafo said:
ahahah ok thanks for the information you saved my time
aww I forgot a thing.. usually results are different for different models. I have i9023 but I think it's good even in other models
let me know your opinion about it
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Hey I actually checked out that codename jellybean thread you showed me... I clicked on the link and their zip is 3.1.0 and i have 3.3.2 downloaded on my computer.... I got the file from nexusshacks.com - am i missing something? Also, Im not sure if there's a kernal that comes with it, so i was wondering if there is any kernels and if there is, do you have a link?:cyclops:
EDIT: I'm going to have to apologize to AOKP. I think the ROM i was running on my phone was a buggy ROM, the unstable one before BUILD 1. I didnt realize this until I watched a video on nexusshacks.com.. but either way i flashed codename jellybean
MRsf27 said:
Hey I actually checked out that codename jellybean thread you showed me... I clicked on the link and their zip is 3.1.0 and i have 3.3.2 downloaded on my computer.... I got the file from nexusshacks.com - am i missing something? Also, Im not sure if there's a kernal that comes with it, so i was wondering if there is any kernels and if there is, do you have a link?:cyclops:
EDIT: I'm going to have to apologize to AOKP. I think the ROM i was running on my phone was a buggy ROM, the unstable one before BUILD 1. I didnt realize this until I watched a video on nexusshacks.com.. but either way i flashed codename jellybean
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I gave you the link with 3.3.2.. even because it's the same ad 3.3.0 but updated:laugh:
kernel is not included in that rom.. I use air kernel, which has everything you asked for (use nstools to control it). this is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469842
serafo said:
I gave you the link with 3.3.2.. even because it's the same ad 3.3.0 but updated:laugh:
kernel is not included in that rom.. I use air kernel, which has everything you asked for (use nstools to control it). this is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469842
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hey, I just flashed codename and air kernel (no modifications) and i just downloaded NStools. It came as an apk. file, I was just wondering what to do with this? do i just throw it into my SD card?
Hello, I hope you guys can help me as i don't know what to do with my phone, here is how it is right now:
Green lens defy, one year old, I replaced the earpiece manually, running right now on Cyanogen 7.1-11, but getting some errors:
Phone stability issues: sometimes phone/launcher freeze/go very slow, sometimes games run fine, other times phone freezes and need a reboots. when i'm updating apps from google play phone can't be used while that is going on (I get a message that 'system' is frozen and if i want to force close it)
there are heavy battery drops to, 20%. I already did the battery drop topic thing, so i think it is a problem of my battery...
How could I solve this? reflash another rom? I don't want to be changing rom every week/month... I was waiting for CM10 or 9 stable but I think i can't wait anymore, the phone can't even last 5 hours on 3G...
About the battery, I heard people that bought a new battery get the 1% bug, this happens with every battery? if not, anyone has a link (send by PM if you want) to a battery that doesn't have this problem?
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Hello, I hope you guys can help me as i don't know what to do with my phone, here is how it is right now:
Green lens defy, one year old, I replaced the earpiece manually, running right now on Cyanogen 7.1-11, but getting some errors:
Phone stability issues: sometimes phone/launcher freeze/go very slow, sometimes games run fine, other times phone freezes and need a reboots. when i'm updating apps from google play phone can't be used while that is going on (I get a message that 'system' is frozen and if i want to force close it)
there are heavy battery drops to, 20%. I already did the battery drop topic thing, so i think it is a problem of my battery...
How could I solve this? reflash another rom? I don't want to be changing rom every week/month... I was waiting for CM10 or 9 stable but I think i can't wait anymore, the phone can't even last 5 hours on 3G...
About the battery, I heard people that bought a new battery get the 1% bug, t
his happens with every battery? if not, anyone has a link (send by PM if you want) to a battery that doesn't have this problem?
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So first of all you can update to one of Maniac103s CM7.2 nightlys, theyre very stable, running smooth and contain some nice features.
If you want to try something new out CM10 could be something for you, if you dont install too many apps its running pretty fine, but for me after 1 week it always got slow and laggy as hell. CM9 hasnt got as many updates as CM10 but for me its running pretty good, almost like an RC version, so you could give epsylons latest nightly a try . Another thing could be a rom like CM7.2 Whiterabbit, thats a modded CM7 version with many speed tweaks which runs pretty good
For your stability issures, try a Cache and Dalvik Cache Whipe, if this doesnt work try a fullwhipe and flash your rom again, but your Apps will be lost. It should get better when you do this, but if you want to make sure that it will run like the first day do an installation from scratch(fullwhipe flash stock sbf, flash rom again) and you should be fine.
You can try whiping your batterystats, this might help but you could also try and buy a new Moto Defy "stock" battery, simply buy one from amazon they arent that expensive. I havent heard about people having an 1% bug with a Motorola Battery (its the same battery youve already got )
Please ask all questions in the Q&A section. Thread moved there.
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So first of all you can update to one of Maniac103s CM7.2 nightlys, theyre very stable, running smooth and contain some nice features.
If you want to try something new out CM10 could be something for you, if you dont install too many apps its running pretty fine, but for me after 1 week it always got slow and laggy as hell. CM9 hasnt got as many updates as CM10 but for me its running pretty good, almost like an RC version, so you could give epsylons latest nightly a try . Another thing could be a rom like CM7.2 Whiterabbit, thats a modded CM7 version with many speed tweaks which runs pretty good
For your stability issures, try a Cache and Dalvik Cache Whipe, if this doesnt work try a fullwhipe and flash your rom again, but your Apps will be lost. It should get better when you do this, but if you want to make sure that it will run like the first day do an installation from scratch(fullwhipe flash stock sbf, flash rom again) and you should be fine.
You can try whiping your batterystats, this might help but you could also try and buy a new Moto Defy "stock" battery, simply buy one from amazon they arent that expensive. I havent heard about people having an 1% bug with a Motorola Battery (its the same battery youve already got )
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With not installing too many apps what do you mean? if you install lots of apps it gets laggy, or that some apps may not be optimized for JB?
I did the cache an dalvik cache wipe and I think the phone is running much better, thanks, didn't think about that If i get more problems I will have to do a clean flash.
I didn't think about amazon for the battery, only looked at ebay, but yes there are batteries sold by motorola on amazon! awesome.
So what would you suggest? updating to 7.2, CM9 or a nightly of CM10?
Sorry for posting on the wrong section.
All the stuff TeeJay3800 is good.
Well in my opinoin...
CM10 - Looks great, batter y life is really good, very stable, somewhat slower than CM7.2 rom, lots of extra features.
CM7.2 - Doesn't look as good in my opinoin, slightly less features, battery life is amazing, Very very stable and reliable, very fast.
So basically for CM10 at the moment, you are getting extra features that ICS and JB have (you can research for yourself if you dont already know ) but right now the rom isnt as polished as CM7.2. so basically decide which option will suit you.. maybe you are bored of the gingerbread interface and just want a change? You can also show off to your friends that you have the latest operating system etc etc etc
at the end of the day, it doesn't take long to change if you don't like it
naleyb01 said:
All the stuff TeeJay3800 is good.
Well in my opinoin...
CM10 - Looks great, batter y life is really good, very stable, somewhat slower than CM7.2 rom, lots of extra features.
CM7.2 - Doesn't look as good in my opinoin, slightly less features, battery life is amazing, Very very stable and reliable, very fast.
So basically for CM10 at the moment, you are getting extra features that ICS and JB have (you can research for yourself if you dont already know ) but right now the rom isnt as polished as CM7.2. so basically decide which option will suit you.. maybe you are bored of the gingerbread interface and just want a change? You can also show off to your friends that you have the latest operating system etc etc etc
at the end of the day, it doesn't take long to change if you don't like it
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And what about MIUI gingerbread? Is it as good with battery as CM 7.2 but with the new UI?
Thanks a lot
Sorry for doublepost but
do an installation from scratch(fullwhipe flash stock sbf, flash rom again)
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Right, i am a bit lost on the sbf part. I remember flashing a SBF and then installing CM7 .zip on it, but right now the computer where i have this SBF saved is not working, so i don't know what rom is it. (on phone kernel version it says 2.6.32.9 and more letters)
EDIT: now I know what rom it is, Spanish official vodafone rom 3.4.2-179-4.4.
I should jump to an stock SBF, then flash another SBF? which ones?
Installing miui/WIUI is similar to CM7? just flash an update.zip ? it is recommended to install on 2.2 CEE ROM (3.4.2 too?)
thanks a lot.
Anyone have any recommendations on a good kernel for Paranoid Android? Franco, Faux or the default? Thank you.
Franco. Another good pick is Trinity (found here: http://derkernel.com/mako.php# )
Is there a resource somewhere that has comparisons of the kernels? Do people just go off of the reputation of the dev that makes them, how do we know what they do?
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Is there a resource somewhere that has comparisons of the kernels? Do people just go off of the reputation of the dev that makes them, how do we know what they do?
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No there are no comparisons. All kernels are relatively early in it's releases at the moment. I'd say they are pretty smooth, I go off based on my past experiences. On Galaxy Nexus, I've used between Franco and Trinity, mainly Franco and bought his app so I use Franco kernels only. But all kernel developers are talented, some phones just like some kernels more often.
Yes, there is a comparison! Check this out @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
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Yes, there is a comparison! Check this out @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
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That's for the Nexus 7...
I personally have used PA roms with 3 kernels:
- probuild in rom - was good, but not as smooth as my experience on stock rom
- Franco (r21 and r22) - i have experienced some lags so decided to try another one
- Matr1x (3.5) - currently am using this one and it's very fast and smooth
Not letting me delete
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After deciding I wanted to use my Best Buy warranty and dropping my phone in boiling water (interesting side note, I took it out after about 20 seconds, still worked fine!) I just got my new replacement. Graciously enough it came to me unlocked. I used Wug's toolkit to root it.
I flashed PA, successfully rebooted. Downloaded Franco Milestone 6 onto my GNex, booted to recovery, wiped partition cache, wiped dalvik cache, flashed the Franco zip, and then rebooted. I've tried this exact same procedure three times, and every time my phone gets stuck (waited at least one hour on the boot animation. I'm back to PA w/ stock kernel, but would really like to get Franco working, any ideas/advice?
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Uh this isn't the GN forum?
My bad!!!
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Uh this isn't the GN forum?
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Shoot man... Sorry! I'm new to using the forums and I did a google search for PA and Franco and forgot to check on what phone forum I was in. I will delete previous post.
hey guys (and girls)
pulled trigger after doing some homework the last few days and successfully rooted my gingerbread 2.3.6 defy+.
played around with a few things then decided to go with the CM9 just to have a look.
was ok in my hand walking around all day today, basically had the phone setup how i wanted then i installed busy box and things went downhil for some reason and basically had to do a wipe restore etc (stil on CM9). Anyways i just find it a bit crashy now (im using 9-20120716-nightly-jordan) build and was wandering if anyone can recommend a decent build wether higher or lower to revert/upgrade to.
cheers
ryan
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turbominicooper said:
hey guys (and girls)
pulled trigger after doing some homework the last few days and successfully rooted my gingerbread 2.3.6 defy+.
played around with a few things then decided to go with the CM9 just to have a look.
was ok in my hand walking around all day today, basically had the phone setup how i wanted then i installed busy box and things went downhil for some reason and basically had to do a wipe restore etc (stil on CM9). Anyways i just find it a bit crashy now (im using 9-20120716-nightly-jordan) build and was wandering if anyone can recommend a decent build wether higher or lower to revert/upgrade to.
cheers
ryan
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If U want CM9 i recommend the last Epsylon CM9 ROM. (no lags and has very soft handle ICS ROM)
If U want try some newest try the last Qarx2K CM10 ROM or Kayant CNAv4 or SlimBeanv3x. (JellyBean ROMs)
All this roms can be addopted as DailyUse ROMs.
Good Luck
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If U want CM9 i recommend the last Epsylon CM9 ROM. (no lags and has very soft handle ICS ROM)
If U want try some newest try the last Qarx2K CM10 ROM or Kayant CNAv4 or SlimBeanv3x. (JellyBean ROMs)
All this roms can be addopted as DailyUse ROMs.
Good Luck
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shot in the dark but by any chnce do you have the epsylon cm9 link stored in your favorites (or back of your brain)? cheers
turbominicooper said:
shot in the dark but by any chnce do you have the epsylon cm9 link stored in your favorites (or back of your brain)? cheers
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This should be the one he is talking about:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353003
Click through to this link provided on that thread:-
Download Links: http://tanguy.forumdoandroid.com
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Then Nightly Server (EU/FR)
Then defy-cm9/
And finally CM9-NIGHTLY-121116-Defy.zip
Hope that helps :good:
Heya, everybody.
I'd like to know if you guys could recommend a good kernel for undervolting and overclocking the Nexus 7. (I'm only looking into very mild overclocking, I don't want worse battery life)
But here's the main thing: I'm wondering about how you'd best go about updating your tablet after flashing a custom kernel. Will I be able to take OTA updates? Am I forced to flash new ROMs every update?
I'd just like the most simple way of updating my OS while being able to overclock and undervolt my Nexus 7. (OTA updates would be the most simple, right? If possible ofc)
I've got a Nexus 7 32GB. Android 4.2.1, IC 3568A-ME370T, Model ME370T, Build JOP40D
there aren't many kernels so quick search through android/original sections 1st pages you can find information about everything you need. i would suggest m-kernel or omega most stable (on my device) and with features you seek, although OC is kinda pointless IMHO if you are not going to benchmark it and given how scores/real world perfomance show well...it's pointless
i think you can't easily just update rom and keep kernel, but it's not much work, download newer version of the rom flash it, flash kernel, boot and resume... 5mins tops.
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there aren't many kernels so quick search through android/original sections 1st pages you can find information about everything you need. i would suggest m-kernel or omega most stable (on my device) and with features you seek
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Okay, I'll have a look at them. Thanks.
OC is kinda pointless IMHO if you are not going to benchmark it and given how scores/real world perfomance show well...it's pointless
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Well, even if I'm only getting a 5% increase in performance or battery life I still consider it worth it. It's a rather simple upgrade that will last for years (I plan on taking good care of my device )
i think you can't easily just update rom and keep kernel, but it's not much work, download newer version of the rom flash it, flash kernel, boot and resume... 5mins tops.
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Wait, so you can update Kernel and ROM separately?
Am I correct in assuming that most ROMs (including stock) come with a Kernel that will replace whatever Kernel I have?
I am using trinity kernel alpha 4 version along with cm 10.1 ROM. Can over clock to 1.7 GHz with this kernel. Downloaded trinity tool box also. You can under clock, over clock and set voltages along with some kernel tweaks. Has worked flawlessly so far. I also downloaded and installed cyan delta app. It will flash the delta file of each nightly you want and also flash kernel all in one shot. (Cyan Delta will only work with CyanogenMod ROMs.)
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kevk60 said:
I am using trinity kernel alpha 4 version along with cm 10.1 ROM. Can over clock to 1.7 GHz with this kernel. Downloaded trinity tool box also. You can under clock, over clock and set voltages along with some kernel tweaks. Has worked flawlessly so far. I also downloaded and installed cyan delta app. It will flash the delta file of each nightly you want and also flash kernel all in one shot. (Cyan Delta will only work with CyanogenMod ROMs.)
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I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
I'll probably use Franco if possible, cuz amazing battery life. I noticed that my Nexus 7 only lasts like 5hours when gaming with it(stock clocks). That's not good enough for me! :S
If it doesn't work I'll probably go for Omega or M-Kernel. (or AOKP stock kernel)
I'll probably go for Paranoid Android 3.0 with the Franco kernel. I've read that they're compatible.
Updating to newer versions might be a bit of a pain, but the cool functions are probably worth it :3
You don't need to update every time a new version of a ROM or Kernel comes out, you know. If it's setup and working perfectly, the best thing to do would be to enjoy your tablet.
OTA updates do a lot of validation checks before they begin; in fact, they perform a checksum on every file targeted for a patch update.
It is quite common (not always, but common) for the kernel or ramdisk to be modified during an OTA update - so this means a high likelihood that an OTA update will not succeed on a device with a custom kernel.
There are lots of ways to do what you want, though; two basic strategies would be:
- From a backup, restore only the (stock) boot partition. Apply the OTA, and then restore a backup of your OC kernel/boot partition.
- Using Titanium Backup (or Carbon), back up your apps & data. Restore a pure stock backup, and take the OTA update on that. Make a Nandroid Backup of this. Flash the replacement kernel & a root kit. Boot and restore your apps. (This method is more labor intensive).
Note the frequent mention of full (nandroid) backups in the above. Backups are a good thing to have; make them early and often.
Anyway, there you go - two methods for the price of zero.
I prefer PA3.0 & Motley Kernel
Searz said:
I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
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I'll probably go for Paranoid Android 3.0 with the Franco kernel. I've read that they're compatible.
Updating to newer versions might be a bit of a pain, but the cool functions are probably worth it :3
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I use PA3.0 with Motley Kernel and it works like a champ. There are stretches where I get 2-3 days of battery life (but I am paranoid and have everything disabled when I don't use it, and brightness down to ~15%). The link you provided though is a good resource.
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Searz said:
I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
I'll probably use Franco if possible, cuz amazing battery life. I noticed that my Nexus 7 only lasts like 5hours when gaming with it(stock clocks). That's not good enough for me! :S
If it doesn't work I'll probably go for Omega or M-Kernel. (or AOKP stock kernel)
I'll probably go for Paranoid Android 3.0 with the Franco kernel. I've read that they're compatible.
Updating to newer versions might be a bit of a pain, but the cool functions are probably worth it :3
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Well don't expect major improvement in battery life while gaming, maybe if you down clock CPU for less demanding games, if you run demanding 3d games like Horn you will drain battery fast. Kernels change from version to version, performance and battery wise, so try different versions from same Dev. When it comes to games the way tegra 3 is designed you will not see much of benefit if any from oc cpu. Just look at the latest m36 kernel, your n7 will basically become dual core device with immeasurable performance loss. All I want to say don't expect wonders. If you are after battery life I would suggest you to look into other less bloated ROMs, like code fire, dirtybox, rasbean jelly. Paranoid is great in some aspects but I found less popular roms are easier on the battery, but not by a large margin.
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I would have to agree. You do not have to update your rom with every nightly or your kernel with every version. If your tab is working fine, use it for what you got it for. Sorta like Murphy's law. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. (Read the changelogs)
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ynrozturk said:
You don't need to update every time a new version of a ROM or Kernel comes out, you know. If it's setup and working perfectly, the best thing to do would be to enjoy your tablet.
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kevk60 said:
I would have to agree. You do not have to update your rom with every nightly or your kernel with every version. If your tab is working fine, use it for what you got it for. Sorta like Murphy's law. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. (Read the changelogs)
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Yea, I won't be reflashing things unless there's new features that I really want.
dchriste90 said:
I use PA3.0 with Motley Kernel and it works like a champ. There are stretches where I get 2-3 days of battery life (but I am paranoid and have everything disabled when I don't use it, and brightness down to ~15%). The link you provided though is a good resource.
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Motley is apparently one of the "worst" kernels when it comes to optimization and battery life. The best thing about it is probably the features, but I don't really need any of them, so I probably won't be using that one
bftb0 said:
OTA updates do a lot of validation checks before they begin; in fact, they perform a checksum on every file targeted for a patch update.
It is quite common (not always, but common) for the kernel or ramdisk to be modified during an OTA update - so this means a high likelihood that an OTA update will not succeed on a device with a custom kernel.
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Yea, that seems to be the case from what I've read. But flashing the stock kernel would make it work fine, right?
bftb0 said:
- From a backup, restore only the (stock) boot partition. Apply the OTA, and then restore a backup of your OC kernel/boot partition.
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This seems like it has a possibility of going wrong. I think I'll go with the second method.
bftb0 said:
- Using Titanium Backup (or Carbon), back up your apps & data. Restore a pure stock backup, and take the OTA update on that. Make a Nandroid Backup of this. Flash the replacement kernel & a root kit. Boot and restore your apps. (This method is more labor intensive).
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This method is actually not that "labor intensive". As long as you've got Ti Backup Pro it's very easy to do this, you just gotta wait a while things backup/restore.
berkos said:
Well don't expect major improvement in battery life while gaming, maybe if you down clock CPU for less demanding games, if you run demanding 3d games like Horn you will drain battery fast.
If you are after battery life I would suggest you to look into other less bloated ROMs, like code fire, dirtybox, rasbean jelly. Paranoid is great in some aspects but I found less popular roms are easier on the battery, but not by a large margin.
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Yea, I realize now that battery life when gaming probably won't change much.
Battery life is very important to me, but if it comes at the expense of features then the difference has to be noticeable.
How has your experience been? (compare the ROMs you've used)