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Windows 8 RTM Disk Management Service

Whenever I try to open the Disk Management Service mmc, it is unusually slow. Several minutes to load the disk information. My Ram checks out and the hard drive showed no errors either.
Don't know if its related, but while I was installing Windows from USB flash drive, it took a very long time, 10 minutes, to proceed from the drive options to the copying of actual files. Windows 7 flies by with no problems. Any suggestions as to what might be causing this? Thanks.
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Pc wont turn off

so im running windows 8 release preview 32 bit.
and every time i use an usb device my pc gets an error when i shut it down and i have do manually shut it...
intel pentium D dualcore 3.2 ghz
2gb of ram kingston
mobistar 945P-A7A

Anyidea? Any drivers need to be installed?
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I got this in consumer preview a lot but i didnt really turn off my computer.

Im on release preview
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Cascabreu said:
so im running windows 8 release preview 32 bit.
and every time i use an usb device my pc gets an error when i shut it down and i have do manually shut it...
intel pentium D dualcore 3.2 ghz
2gb of ram kingston
mobistar 945P-A7A
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Have you tried using different (or not using certain) USB ports? I have seen problems with Windows 8 and shutdown/sleep/hibernate that were worked-around by going into the BIOS and reducing the number of USB ports and/or disabling Fast Startup.
I'd be interested in seeing if this was fixed in the final RTM build (or the subsequent General Availability Cumulative Update [kb2756872] MS released).

earthsound said:
What computer model do you have? Have you tried using different (or not using certain) USB ports? I have seen problems with Windows 8 and shutdown/sleep/hibernate that were worked-around by going into the BIOS and reducing the number of USB ports and/or disabling Fast Startup.
I'd be interested in seeing if this was fixed in the final RTM build (or the subsequent General Availability Cumulative Update [kb2756872] MS released).
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i have desktop, it was kind of build by my self ages ago (10 years)
all the specs are in the first post, were are the options for disabling usb ports? fast start? i dont think i have it.
it happen with all the ports

Cascabreu said:
i have desktop, it was kind of build by my self ages ago (10 years)
all the specs are in the first post, were are the options for disabling usb ports? fast start? i dont think i have it.
it happen with all the ports
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Depending on the BIOS, you can change the number of USB ports that are available to the OS. Did you mean a BIOSTAR mobo? I don't have any experience with their BIOS, but it looks like the latest BIOS for their 945P-A7A was released on 2012-09-17. Perhaps the BIOS update, alone, will fix the issue.

Can u give me a link?
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Cascabreu said:
Can u give me a link?
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Well, it looks like I misread their download page. The 2012-09-17 file appears to be the BIOS updater application. The latest BIOS shown (available when you click on ver. 8.x in the "Ver." drop-down menu) is dated 2007-11-19:
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=80#dl
It appears an older BIOS is available at http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdownloads.asp?model=945P-A7A%20V8.X, dated 2006-09-14.

earthsound said:
Well, it looks like I misread their download page. The 2012-09-17 file appears to be the BIOS updater application. The latest BIOS shown (available when you click on ver. 8.x in the "Ver." drop-down menu) is dated 2007-11-19:
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=80#dl
It appears an older BIOS is available at http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdownloads.asp?model=945P-A7A%20V8.X, dated 2006-09-14.
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i already installed that one, thanks anyway

Btw, Fast Startup is enabled/disabled at System Settings > scroll down to the Shutdown settings & uncheck "Turn on fast startup (recommended)."
Fast Startup uses a hybrid shutdown that saves the kernel session and device drivers to the hiberfil.sys on the HD instead of closing everything.
You can also disable Fast Startup by disabling Hibernate.

I will check that when im back home. Is that on the bios or on windows?
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Cascabreu said:
I will check that when im back home. Is that on the bios or on windows?
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Fast Startup is in Windows. See this tutorial.

earthsound said:
Fast Startup is in Windows. See this tutorial.
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i will post here then if it works

Same problem here
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earthsound said:
Fast Startup is in Windows. See this tutorial.
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It kinda fixes it, now the pc gets an error but is able to turn off. Thanks again!
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U tell me, wich one u think the best for the price!

My lappie had the 'won't stay shutdown' thing...
After I allowed all the windows updates it kind of fixed itself...
I wonder if there are some updates that require a restart that call for restarts only, no shutdowns and we'll configure later scenarios?

[Q] Windows 8 overheating my ultrabook

Strange little problem I’ve got here. I’m using the brilliant Asus UX31E ultrabook which is a 1.8ghz i7.
Didn’t have any problems running windows 7, but just installed a fresh windows 8 last week.
I’ve installed all the updates I could find from the ASUS website but here’s the problem, with windows 7 the fans would only ever come on if you were really pushing it playing a game. Using windows 8 the fans will regularly come on just browsing in chrome.
when you open task manager the computer details recognise that it’s only a 1.8 processer yet it often is being utilized as high as 2.8ghz! This is making the machine overheat, turn on the fans and sometimes have to turn itself off.
I’ve been into power settings and reduced the maximum power usage to 70% and that usually does the job, but then it quickly forgets this setting and restores it to 100% (2.7GHZ!). In task manager the highest task utilisation wise is ‘system’ but no idea exactly what it’s doing..
Is there anything I can do to have greater control over the processor speed or investigate what might be causing the problem?
Asus had some power control software for windows 7 but don’t seem to offer it for windows 8.
Cheers guys

andypa1 said:
Strange little problem I’ve got here. I’m using the brilliant Asus UX31E ultrabook which is a 1.8ghz i7.
Didn’t have any problems running windows 7, but just installed a fresh windows 8 last week.
I’ve installed all the updates I could find from the ASUS website but here’s the problem, with windows 7 the fans would only ever come on if you were really pushing it playing a game. Using windows 8 the fans will regularly come on just browsing in chrome.
when you open task manager the computer details recognise that it’s only a 1.8 processer yet it often is being utilized as high as 2.8ghz! This is making the machine overheat, turn on the fans and sometimes have to turn itself off.
I’ve been into power settings and reduced the maximum power usage to 70% and that usually does the job, but then it quickly forgets this setting and restores it to 100% (2.7GHZ!). In task manager the highest task utilisation wise is ‘system’ but no idea exactly what it’s doing..
Is there anything I can do to have greater control over the processor speed or investigate what might be causing the problem?
Asus had some power control software for windows 7 but don’t seem to offer it for windows 8.
Cheers guys
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Have you done a upgrade or clean installation from windows 8
if you had done a upgrade please do a clean installation of windows 8
if not then go to the advance power settings in the control panel and set processor cooling state to active

shreshth89 said:
Have you done a upgrade or clean installation from windows 8
if you had done a upgrade please do a clean installation of windows 8
if not then go to the advance power settings in the control panel and set processor cooling state to active
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I was wondering if it was a true clean install or upgrade. I read he installed a fresh copy nut wasn't sure if that was meaning clean (wiped the drive) or what. I didn't really notice.alot of heat issues with my last laptop I upgraded; I chose to keep personal files and settings. I do have about 180gb of pictures and movies which were scattered in multiple locations on win7. Now my media is very orderly, as well as my 20gb of music.
Saying all that, I believe when I installed the media center that it cleaned up my files, or it may have just been windows 8, but either way it took some work on wimdows8 to organize my hard drive much better than before. I have scanned my hd for the need to defrag it, but it shows to be dang near perfect. If you have alot of media on your machine I wonder if its doing file management, which is making it run hot, etc. I know phones are different but when I load a new ROM it takes it several hours to slow down the media system usage.
How many days have you been running the system with wimdows8 ? Do you have a lot of Files/media on your machine ?
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The majority of the time, the issue isn't with the Operating System as much as it is with a single application. Check task manager while your computer is running and see what applications are causing the processor to go nuts. If it is indeed a system application, then I would suggest doing a complete wipe and fresh install of Windows 8. You can back up your authentication key by saving a specific folder in the File Browser. Do a search on MyDigitalLife for that information.
Doing a quick search on your Processor, it runs standard at 1.8 ghz, and the 2.9 jump is completely normal. It's a feature called "Turbo Speed". With Windows 8 came upgraded drivers, which probably enabled this feature that you've never noticed.

jlangleyrn said:
I was wondering if it was a true clean install or upgrade. I read he installed a fresh copy nut wasn't sure if that was meaning clean (wiped the drive) or what. I didn't really notice.alot of heat issues with my last laptop I upgraded; I chose to keep personal files and settings. I do have about 180gb of pictures and movies which were scattered in multiple locations on win7. Now my media is very orderly, as well as my 20gb of music.
Saying all that, I believe when I installed the media center that it cleaned up my files, or it may have just been windows 8, but either way it took some work on wimdows8 to organize my hard drive much better than before. I have scanned my hd for the need to defrag it, but it shows to be dang near perfect. If you have alot of media on your machine I wonder if its doing file management, which is making it run hot, etc. I know phones are different but when I load a new ROM it takes it several hours to slow down the media system usage.
How many days have you been running the system with wimdows8 ? Do you have a lot of Files/media on your machine ?
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yes it is true
whoever each and every application running sometimes FC itself or crashes while operation which leaves a unmarked thread or loos end of the application (which also termed as viruses when they start further spreading the system)
in system which were already troubling you creates a problem due to upgrade

Windows 8 RTM cold boot in 6 Seconds!!

Hi, my Thinkpad X230 Tablet boots win 8 in just 6 seconds!
see it in action: youtube
My computer is running UEFI "BIOS" and it has a Crucial mSATA SSD.

A) No, it doesn't. Read up on hibernation boot.
B) This has been discussed before...
Don't get me wrong, it's cool (if you don't mind blowing a ton of disk space for a hiberfile, which is becoming a problem on machines with tons of RAM and tiny SSDs). It doesn't improve reboot time at all though, and I almost never just "turn off" my computer. Why would I? You know what's a heck of a lot faster than a 6-second boot? Instant-on resume from sleep.

HTCalltheway said:
Hi, my Thinkpad X230 Tablet boots win 8 in just 6 seconds!
see it in action: youtube
My computer is running UEFI "BIOS" and it has a Crucial mSATA SSD.
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It is literally 3-4 seconds on my Toshiba U925.

Oh, and for the record, the full reboot time on my Win8 Enterprise desktop (which has a SSD but no hibernation support because 32 GB of hiberfile would be too much of the SSD) is a little over 20 seconds. Still excellent, and a noticeable chunk of that is due to the computer's old-ish BIOS.

GoodDayToDie said:
Oh, and for the record, the full reboot time on my Win8 Enterprise desktop (which has a SSD but no hibernation support because 32 GB of hiberfile would be too much of the SSD) is a little over 20 seconds. Still excellent, and a noticeable chunk of that is due to the computer's old-ish BIOS.
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I haven't checked the full boot time when the hibernation support isn't invoked. The screen comes up in around 10 - 15 seconds, and I can log on immediately afterwards, but I've noticed that it isn't really fully up for many more seconds - it appears to be continuing to load various subsystems for up to a minute.

Yeah, all OSes do that. XP and before were awful about it, especially on single-core machines; they tried to load everything at the same time and performance went to crap as a result for a while after login. Vista and later introduced a way to launch services with a delayed start, which improves responsiveness during this period dramatically. I'm not sure what Linux or OS X do, but I've seen the same kind of delay on them too.
Multi-core, high-RAM, and SSD-equipped machines have reduced the impact of this to almost negligible levels, although even on my 8-core, 32-gig, SSD-based beast of desktop, the initial login does still take a few seconds longer before being usable than subsequent ones.

Windows 8/8.1/10 doesn't work with Switchable Graphics. Sign the petition!

Since Windows 8, First generation Intel users were unable to update our graphics drivers because they lead to bootloops, BSODs, screen/brightness glitches etc. Almost every 2010-2012+ Hewlett Packard user (and some MSi, Vaio and Toshiba Sattelites) is having this issue. Now that Windows 10 is released the situation still remains the same.
The problems:
BSOD while installing the drivers provided in Windows Update. When the OS installs the new driver, the screen starts flickering and then shows a Blue Screen of Death. After that, the PC never boots again (see below). Since W10 these updates are forced to auto-install everytime, so it's almost imposible to stop the laptop to get into that state.
Bootloop - Blackscreen after Windows bootlogo. After the BSOD, the laptop restarts itself after 5 seconds, and it never boots again. In some cases it leads to a blackscreen and then bang! BSOD again. In others, it just stays in a blackscreen with sound and the ability to control brightness and core functions like Wi-Fi network and Sound. In other words, the laptop works, but the screen doesn't.
After another "update" the laptop boots in Intel Mode only. Seems like the "workaround" for the problem by AMD/Microsoft was to disable AMD cards and force the device to run in Power Saving mode (Intel Card). If you force an app or game to run in AMD mode, it will lead to a blackscreen with sound and the only way to revert that is by rebooting the laptop.
Some apps still use Intel Graphics, even if they were forced to run ATI ones. This can be checked with DXDiag.exe, which displays Intel info in Video Graphics, even if the program was forced to use ATI. TL: DR: Apps don't recognize the ATI card.
HDMI Output doesn't work. Since ATI cards doesn't work, so does the HDMI output. There's no audio/vido in the external multimedia device.
Here's a link for the problem and all those affected users in Microsoft Community. A Microsoft Representative answered the first two pages, then dissapeared. Right now there're almost 40 pages about people claiming at least one response or a guarantee to get this fixed. This is not Windows XP, we still have more than 10 years of support.
I can't work because Microsoft and AMD don't support me, they don't support a one-year-old technology. I'm a Video Designer/Editor, I can't work with a power saving GPU. I (we) didn't bought a $700 laptop for a performance of a $250 one.
Thanks for your time reading this, feel free to sign the petition or report this thread as spam. Remember that you only need to do a few clics to sign it and no account it's required. Again, thanks for helping us.
Link to change.org petition:*https://www.change.org/p/microsoft-advanced-micro-devices-amd-fix-hybrid-switchable-graphics-for-first-generation-intel-laptops