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[Q] Is this the best phone for 400€?

As the topic title says, i'm looking for a new phone to replace my boring xperia s (bootloader loocked...) and the maximum i wanna spend is 400€. So,for this money the oppo find 5 is the best option? The feature that i most apreciate is taking photos, and my xperia s do it very well...
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The camera is OK but nothing amazing in my experience which is fine for me and Faux kernel has done wonders my battery life (+30-40%). Not sure the camera can compare to the Xperia.
Despite those niggles, I'd recommend the F5 above others to friends if asked but it depends on your needs. I certainly prefer it over the Note 2 and Nexus 4. For me is the sweet spot between size, screen, performance and design.
What else is on your short list?
-- From my Find 5

Exactly the switch I made XS->Find5. I thought about getting the HTC One or the S4, but since I planned on running a custom ROM, I didn't want to pay for features I wouldn't use anyway.
Regrets? No. The Find5 has a Sony Sensor as camera, AFAIK the same as in the XZ. On stock ROM, the cam is pretty good, not so much on custom ROMs, though, usual closed source binary blob problems.

vitorugo-8 said:
As the topic title says, i'm looking for a new phone to replace my boring xperia s (bootloader loocked...) and the maximum i wanna spend is 400€. So,for this money the oppo find 5 is the best option? The feature that i most apreciate is taking photos, and my xperia s do it very well...
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Hi!
If you are looking a brand new one, maybe this is the one with best camera for this price (I dont know anything about Nokia and WP) you can buy for that amount.
If you dont mind, maybe you can take a Xperia Z (same sensor, but better app) in the second market.
P.S: Yes, this is my first post in about 3 years LOL! (I prefer reading)
Regards from sPAIN

kinghu said:
The camera is OK but nothing amazing in my experience which is fine for me and Faux kernel has done wonders my battery life (+30-40%). Not sure the camera can compare to the Xperia.
Despite those niggles, I'd recommend the F5 above others to friends if asked but it depends on your needs. I certainly prefer it over the Note 2 and Nexus 4. For me is the sweet spot between size, screen, performance and design.
What else is on your short list?
-- From my Find 5
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at the beggining i was thinking about xperia z (i'm a huge fan of the xperia line) or htc one (i don't like the samsung plastic), but i reconsidered that ... 550€ or more for a phone? i think it´s to much, so i stablished the 400€ limit, and for that money, and new phones (not used) i'm in between nexus 4 or the oppo find 5 ( i believe they are the only with superb specs and not so expensive phones ). But the nexus 4 is 4.7 inch screen, and an 8mp camera ( but i guess the 8mp i just a number).
3 things that i consider in a phone : camera; battery; development.
So, what you guys say?

If camera is a priority then you may be better looking elsewhere.
The Find 5 camera is OK in good light but struggles otherwise. My wife has a Nexus 4 and I don't rate that camera either.
-- From my Find 5

I agree the Oppo is nothing to get mad excited about. The camera is very noisy. Actually in HDR mode my pictures on the Nexus 4 turned out way better!

CodeX86 said:
I agree the Oppo is nothing to get mad excited about. The camera is very noisy. Actually in HDR mode my pictures on the Nexus 4 turned out way better!
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so the camera is worst than an xperia s?

vitorugo-8 said:
so the camera is worst than an xperia s?
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Never had the chance to compare to a Xperia S.
But for the claims made by their commercial it doesn't live up to the promise.
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kinghu said:
The camera is OK but nothing amazing in my experience which is fine for me and Faux kernel has done wonders my battery life (+30-40%). Not sure the camera can compare to the Xperia.
Despite those niggles, I'd recommend the F5 above others to friends if asked but it depends on your needs. I certainly prefer it over the Note 2 and Nexus 4. For me is the sweet spot between size, screen, performance and design.
What else is on your short list?
-- From my Find 5
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I too am interested in this phone, one of my main concerns is battery life.
When you say you have about 30-40% more battery life, how many screen on time are you talking about? 5-6 hours?
Thank you.

Elwood_It said:
I too am interested in this phone, one of my main concerns is battery life.
When you say you have about 30-40% more battery life, how many screen on time are you talking about? 5-6 hours?
Thank you.
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Well you can forget the Stock firmware even with fauxes Kernel it will suck you dry. The best experience as far as battery life i had so far was with Cyanogenmod. Even so it is not running an optimized Kernel it seems to handle power mangement way better!
5-6 hours screen on is way over what you will be able to achieve with normal day 2 day use. For sure you will max out at the moment at 4 hours screen on time.
If you are looking for a new phone with lot's of battery life i would hold of another 1-2 month and see what others have to offer because Oppo didn't even release 4.2 yet but they are planning on in early August. Until then don't bother!

so, in conclusion, despite the problems with the camera ( which i think it's a software problem, not hardware ) for 400€, and with a custom rom, the oppo it's the best phone on the market?

CodeX86 said:
Well you can forget the Stock firmware even with fauxes Kernel it will suck you dry. The best experience as far as battery life i had so far was with Cyanogenmod. Even so it is not running an optimized Kernel it seems to handle power mangement way better!
5-6 hours screen on is way over what you will be able to achieve with normal day 2 day use. For sure you will max out at the moment at 4 hours screen on time.
If you are looking for a new phone with lot's of battery life i would hold of another 1-2 month and see what others have to offer because Oppo didn't even release 4.2 yet but they are planning on in early August. Until then don't bother!
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Thank you very much for the answer!

camera is far from bad.. not the best in low light and yes noise can be a problem but i walked out in garden snapped some pics
nothing wrong with it IMO, i actually think its quite good! a lot better than my s2 was.

grudas said:
camera is far from bad.. not the best in low light and yes noise can be a problem but i walked out in garden snapped some pics
nothing wrong with it IMO, i actually think its quite good! a lot better than my s2 was.
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uou those pictures are amazing ... i'm not any expert, but i think the picture quality are far from bad ... are you using any tweak or something? or it's the stock camera app?

vitorugo-8 said:
uou those pictures are amazing ... i'm not any expert, but i think the picture quality are far from bad ... are you using any tweak or something? or it's the stock camera app?
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stock camera and stock rom only thing i've done is root and kill the stock launcher, thats it no editing on those either straight out of the phone in full res.

Elwood_It said:
I too am interested in this phone, one of my main concerns is battery life.
When you say you have about 30-40% more battery life, how many screen on time are you talking about? 5-6 hours?
Thank you.
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Sorry just saw this... I've tried most of the stock/beta ROMs and as a light to moderate user, it lasts me about 24-36 hours. Without faux kernel I would get around 3 to 3.5 hours screen on (email, twitter, browser, Tapatalk, watching a TV show, taking pics/video and a few calls).
With faux setup for battery life, I can get 4.5 to 5 hours doing the same stuff and there isn't really a performance hit as I'm not doing much needing the phone to run at full speed for long.
It was really the idle drain that was killing it at around ~1.5%-2% per hour rather than ~0.8% with faux. Usually, I'm on wifi and have GPS on and leave them on when sleeping so it was overnight that saw a big improvement.

grudas said:
stock camera and stock rom only thing i've done is root and kill the stock launcher, thats it no editing on those either straight out of the phone in full res.
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Yeah I used Stock to for a while and when you do close ups the camera makes some pretty nice pictures. But as soon as contrasts aren't really there anymore it gets potentially noisy.
I mean how much can you really expect from a smartphone camera sensor without any optics to adjust depth.
Your pictures are nice. I made some nice ones myself but they don't measure up to HTC One's Ultrapixel contrast and light condition abilities.
Funny part about all of this is probably that drivers neither on Stock or Custom are really optimized.
I do though still think the state the phone is in right now it is not worth it. Neither Stock Software nor Custom give you a really great experience with the device right now.

CodeX86 said:
I do though still think the state the phone is in right now it is not worth it. Neither Stock Software nor Custom give you a really great experience with the device right now.
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After trying numerous stock and custom ROM/kernel combinations, I have to disagree. Last week's Chinese Firefly is, IMO, very usable in terms of performance, battery life, and reliability.
I posted some findings here:
http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/project-firefly-v1-0-0_3186b.2016/page-19#post-53441

kinghu said:
After trying numerous stock and custom ROM/kernel combinations, I have to disagree. Last week's Chinese Firefly is, IMO, very usable in terms of performance, battery life, and reliability.
I posted some findings here:
http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/project-firefly-v1-0-0_3186b.2016/page-19#post-53441
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Yeah and you will have to lay a little more weight on chinese open beta...

kitkat camera - how improved is it

Hi,
I read two opinions in another thread, one said the camera quality is improved in kitkat, the other opinion said there was no difference.
My only reason for maybe upgrading to kitkat is if the camera is better. I dont want to upgrade otherwise as my moto g is working fantastically on 4.3 right now.
So would people be able to let me know if they think the camera is improved on kitkat, especially if it manages to focus faster and better.
Thanks.

I haven't noticed any difference, also tried focal but it's even worse, except at low light I think it's a little better.
Does anyone else have any suggestions? Has anyone tried LG camera?

It's the same. Motorola needs to push out a firmware update which is not part of the Android OS.
You should update to 4.4.2 anyway because its free, its an improvement in performance and there's no reason not to upgrade.

CADude said:
It's the same. Motorola needs to push out a firmware update which is not part of the Android OS.
You should update to 4.4.2 anyway because its free, its an improvement in performance and there's no reason not to upgrade.
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Wasn't 4.4.1 to improve the Nexus 5 camera? Then 4.4.2 provided other fixes.

wrj54 said:
Wasn't 4.4.1 to improve the Nexus 5 camera? Then 4.4.2 provided other fixes.
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Yes but Google controls the Nexus firmware. Motorola controls the Moto /g/ firmware. It's up to Motorola to fix their camera.

CADude said:
Yes but Google controls the Nexus firmware. Motorola controls the Moto /g/ firmware. It's up to Motorola to fix their camera.
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Motorola is Google now
@scott_doyland, you should always keep you device on the most up-to-date software possible. Also included in updates are various security updates to keep your device safe from viruses and such.
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I used Infusion ROM (Beta 2 which was 4.3 based) for a few days which uses the AOSP camera/gallery instead of the Motorola one. The image quality was much better compared to the stock camera.

CADude said:
Yes but Google controls the Nexus firmware. Motorola controls the Moto /g/ firmware. It's up to Motorola to fix their camera.
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I probably didn't state it clearly but I was thinking if 4.4.1 was aimed at the Nexus 5 camera, why would it improve the Moto G camera unless they have the exact same app and same issue.
My next thought is does Google/Motorola even think they have an issue with the Moto G camera? They obviously knew customers where unhappy with the N5's camera but unless they feel there's an issue with the Moto G, there will be no fix.

wrj54 said:
I probably didn't state it clearly but I was thinking if 4.4.1 was aimed at the Nexus 5 camera, why would it improve the Moto G camera unless they have the exact same app and same issue.
My next thought is does Google/Motorola even think they have an issue with the Moto G camera? They obviously knew customers where unhappy with the N5's camera but unless they feel there's an issue with the Moto G, there will be no fix.
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I agree here... I think everyone should take a couple minutes to voice their opinions to Motorola about the camera. Heck, all you have to do is live chat on the Help app and ask if they plan on releasing a software update to improve the camera quality. I think if enough of us do this, we could see results.
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I'm for that idea, though we'd need more than 10 participants to raise Googorola's concern.
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i even just don't wanna touch that camera icon.
just forget about taking picture with it.

same here
tonyleeloveyou said:
i even just don't wanna touch that camera icon.
just forget about taking picture with it.
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me too, but sometimes you need it. For example, you see some celebrity. But I will not be surprised when that celebrity refuse a photo on your MOTO G. That noise reduction is terrible. Just too much. If this will be fixed, I think that'll be decent camera.

The best camera is the one that's with you
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I did a live chat with Moto using the help app, I told them the camera takes terrible pics and asked if they were planning a software update for the camera app... The CS rep I was chatting with basically ignored the question and wanted me to clear the data on the camera and reboot the phone. Lol
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Is Motorola cheap (£99) because of cheap Camera? Not sure but you cannot have all top spec for this price range. Personally I don't think any update will improve this camera, more likely it's hardware issue. Anyway still great device.

Defy+ made way better pictures than this. KK doesn't improve it.

If anyone's interested, I did a quick write up in the themes & apps section on how to replace the stock Moto cam with the KitKat AOSP camera, which imo takes far better pics. Root is required.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2602054
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lowrider262 said:
I agree here... I think everyone should take a couple minutes to voice their opinions to Motorola about the camera. Heck, all you have to do is live chat on the Help app and ask if they plan on releasing a software update to improve the camera quality. I think if enough of us do this, we could see results.
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I did that just now. They told me to get latest version of camera app, so nothing useful as I had it already installed on my phone. It's the least I can do.

Walliser said:
I also have same issue. My camera is slow. I need to hold the camera for a little while during each shot.
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Slow? Mine is so fast that it doesn't even bother to focus :laugh:

Advice please

Hello Xda members, I currently have i9300 (S3) and willing to go for a high end phone, I am amazed with Note 3 specs and S-pen, but shocked about how people say both N9000 and N9005 lag and they drop frame while playing games, would like to know your opinions and recommendations for other phone to buy, thank you in advance.

No lag or dropped frames ever for me, only game I play is Dead Trigger 2 and it runs perfectly.
By the way, why are you posting here if you want a recommendation for a device that isn't going to be a Note 3??

B3311 said:
No lag or dropped frames ever for me, or looking game I play is Dead Trigger 2 and it runs perfectly.
Why are you posting here if you want a recommendation for a device that isn't going to be a Note 3??
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cause Note 3 users are the best to recommend whether to buy it or go for something else, thank you for sharing

darkshaft said:
cause Note 3 users are the best to recommend whether to buy it or go for something else, thank you for sharing
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OK, understand. In that case my advice is buy it.

darkshaft said:
Hello Xda members, I currently have i9300 (S3) and willing to go for a high end phone, I am amazed with Note 3 specs and S-pen, but shocked about how people say both N9000 and N9005 lag and they drop frame while playing games, would like to know your opinions and recommendations for other phone to buy, thank you in advance.
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No lag on my device.
Ever since I use it on MJ7 4.3 stock non-rooted, NB7 4.4.2 stock non-rooted and rooted, NC2 custom ROM. All no lagging, and to be frank eversince 4.4.2, the device even smoother.
The best phone in my opinion of all Samsung phone currently, in terms of smoothness and battery. You won't regret to buy. If your country have N9005 (LTE), you better by this one, as snapdragon has more support on this Note 3 forum, because more ppl use it compare to the exynos. But if your country only have N900, then no choice.
PS :
If you ever buy it, first thing that you have to do is download the multitouch test app from google play, and try to touch by 10 fingers (and try to move the 10 fingers around the screen. The 10 fingers should be still detected wherever you move them, then your screen is okay). If got problem, return it direct. This Note 3 device has issue with its multitouch screen, other than that, all are good. :good:
Cheers.

The note 3 camera has problems. The wi-fi and/or GPS interfere with it in normal light and mostly in low light conditions showing up as horizontal lines on screen and when you take the picture. I was expecting a much better camera on a 700€ phone and it has made me question if i'll ever buy a samsung product again.
My stylus has been used a total of maybe 3 times. Never touched it again.
The rest is all great.

Riqz said:
The note 3 camera has problems. The wi-fi and/or GPS interfere with it in normal light and mostly in low light conditions showing up as horizontal lines on screen and when you take the picture. I was expecting a much better camera on a 700€ phone and it has made me question if i'll ever buy a samsung product again.
My stylus has been used a total of maybe 3 times. Never touched it again.
The rest is all great.
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Just to feedback, my camera doesn't have the problem you have mentioned earlier
My wifi is on, and GPS on all the times, just try to take picture on a low light conditions. No horizontal lines on screen nor on the pic taken.
Cheers.

No issues here whatsoever. Well worth it
Love the Spen, but then I'm a Wacom Intuos user so it's second nature to me to use a pen.
Riqz said:
The note 3 camera has problems. The wi-fi and/or GPS interfere with it in normal light and mostly in low light conditions showing up as horizontal lines on screen and when you take the picture. I was expecting a much better camera on a 700€ phone and it has made me question if i'll ever buy a samsung product again.
My stylus has been used a total of maybe 3 times. Never touched it again.
The rest is all great.
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You pay 700 euro for the phone, not the camera. Do some basic research into sensor chips before you blather on about camera quality in smartphones. I've explained it numerous times.

I have problems with wifi and mobile network on at the same time! I also have problems with lines when taking a photo in low light! It's only a couple of months old could I address these problems if I root and use a custom rom? I love this phone I've had most galaxy's and I wanna keep it should I root?
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ShadowLea said:
You pay 700 euro for the phone, not the camera. Do some basic research into sensor chips before you blather on about camera quality in smartphones. I've explained it numerous times.
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Actually he has a point, picture quality aside the camera shouldn't have weird artifacts if WIFI or mobile data are on. That is clearly a build issue.

akselic said:
Actually he has a point, picture quality aside the camera shouldn't have weird artifacts if WIFI or mobile data are on. That is clearly a build issue.
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Clearly not, as I currently have Wifi, GPS, Mobile Data and NFC enabled, and experience no such issue on any camera app, including stock.
(Unless I point at a fluorescent lamp, which is something even my 1800 euro EOS 70D does.)

ShadowLea said:
Clearly not, as I currently have Wifi, GPS, Mobile Data and NFC enabled, and experience no such issue on any camera app, including stock.
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I meant that his device is obviously faulty, not that all Note 3:s have that issue Or I hope I didn't misunderstand your post...

akselic said:
I meant that his device is obviously faulty, not that all Note 3:s have that issue Or I hope I didn't misunderstand your post...
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I think we both had a bit of miscommunication there. Most Note 3's had this issue, mine used to as well on 4.3. Since the update NB7 4.4.2 it's gone.

denny1970 said:
I have problems with wifi and mobile network on at the same time! I also have problems with lines when taking a photo in low light! It's only a couple of months old could I address these problems if I root and use a custom rom? I love this phone I've had most galaxy's and I wanna keep it should I root?
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does the problem occured since D1 you use ?
If so, you should contacted samsung earlier before you root and KNOX it off.
But if only happen after u use custom ROM, perhaps you would like to change to others.

Mines running 4.4.2 kit kat and still has these issues!!!
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I've not rooted mine as yet! But really wanna but I don't understand the knox part?
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denny1970 said:
Mines running 4.4.2 kit kat and still has these issues!!!
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I've not rooted mine as yet! But really wanna but I don't understand the knox part?
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and if you are on 4.4.2 and still have the issue, and you haven't rooted, why don't go to the service center. claim from them, since some of us not experience it (especially after 4.4.2).
But u r on NB7 or later? or earlier? if earlier, try to update to NB7 first, and see how.

Sorry not sure what NB7 means does this help identify what I need to know
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denny1970 said:
Sorry not sure what NB7 means does this help identify what I need to know
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yes you are on NB7.
so I guess your choice is to go samsung and claim from them
or maybe wait for someone who knows better, because I have never experienced this thing since 4.3 MJ7.

Thanks for you time much appreciated!
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Thanks everyone for sharing, my only fear was the lag issue with touchwiz, but now its gone, my fear now is with horizontal line in camera

[Q] Camera so slow...

So I'm guessing its the device being slow but I wanted to see what everyone else had experienced and if there is a fix.
Basically I find the camera terrible. The only way to get a decent shot with less than perfect light is to use the stabilizer, which as many of you know slows down the pictures as it has to process the picture. This is VERY annoying to me. My iPhone 5s takes a much better shot and instantly without processing.
Has anyone found a fix for this be it prop settings or alternate camera apps?
I have to imagine there is a fix for this...

My last iPhone was the 5 (had the 4s before it). Apple sure has the whole "just works" thing down. That said, I REALLY like the Note 3 camera and the screen - I think it's better than the 5 - but in low light, the processing thing is INCREDIBLY ANNOYING. For a phone with this hardware, you'd think a 2 second "processing" bar would be a thing of the past.

Yea, so anyone find a fix? I want to take pics of my kid and don't have time to wait between pictures...

Drachnem said:
Yea, so anyone find a fix? I want to take pics of my kid and don't have time to wait between pictures...
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I am also interested - so "bump" --- I can't stand the "processing." I remember the 4.3 roms had a mention that prevented this. I wonder if the 4.4.2 roms will get it?

Bonniecal said:
yah it's right but i think it can take a very nice picture. for this it take much time. i knew an apps like as capture it. but it will not good for note 3. thanks
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Gladyscoleman said:
Root your cell phone to get rid of this.
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I mean seriously. Are these two accounts just for straight trolling or what? I'm so confused.

A Fix!
Hey guys I found a fix!
After poking around on my rom (Beans) I noticed they had the option for the CM 11 camera app so I grabbed it...
BOOM instantly better quality, speed, the works. :good:
So seems like the stock camera app was just terrible. CM got it right and now I'm really happy with the quality.
I compared both cameras and in almost ever case the note 3 was on par or even better than my 5s.
If you guys want some compare shots between both android cams and vs. iphone 5s let me know and i'll post some.
If you want the CM 11 camera I'm sure a little goggling will get you the APK. :laugh:
I'd also love to see what your experiences are and if you found the CM camera app to your liking.

Drachnem said:
Hey guys I found a fix!
After poking around on my rom (Beans) I noticed they had the option for the new camera app (from kitkat) so I grabbed it...
BOOM instantly better quality, speed, the works. :good:
So seems like the stock camera app was just terrible. Kitkat got it right and now I'm really happy with the quality.
I compared both cameras and in almost ever case the note 3 was on par or even better than my 5s.
If you guys want some compare shots between both android cams and vs. iphone 5s let me know and i'll post some.
If you want the KitKat camera I'm sure a little goggling will get you the APK. :laugh:
I'd also love to see what your experiences are and if you found the KitKat camera app to your liking.
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If it's the Google camera you can get it from the Play Store also.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.GoogleCamera

airmaxx23 said:
If it's the Google camera you can get it from the Play Store also.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.GoogleCamera
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No, it is not this one. Let me take a shot of the app.

Drachnem said:
No, it is not this one. Let me take a shot of the app.
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Please see attached

Drachnem said:
Please see attached
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Ahhh, the CM11 camera.

airmaxx23 said:
Ahhh, the CM11 camera.
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Ah ok, CM 11. Well its awesome.

I really miss a macro mode. I take a lot of close up detail photos for work. Now I use an eye loupe over the lens and it actually works better than before but.. you would have to carry it in your pocket...
On a side note I find the kit kat camera faster than the jellybean camera.
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neyenlives said:
I really miss a macro mode. I take a lot of close up detail photos for work. Now I use an eye loupe over the lens and it actually works better than before but.. you would have to carry it in your pocket...
On a side note I find the kit kat camera faster than the jellybean camera.
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The CM11 camera has macro mode.

Can anyone provide a link to a legitimate download for the CM11 camera? I'm always a little worried of an apk from a Google search. Lol. Unless it is from a reputable website.
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Adam Browning said:
Can anyone provide a link to a legitimate download for the CM11 camera? I'm always a little worried of an apk from a Google search. Lol. Unless it is from a reputable website.
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HERE ya go, I uploaded it to my Box account for you. Enjoy.

airmaxx23 said:
HERE ya go, enjoy.
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Very much appreciate it! Please accept my "Thanks" as payment.

Adam Browning said:
Very much appreciate it! Please accept my "Thanks" as payment.
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Not a problem, hopefully you like it.

[REFERENCE] To all those looking to purchase the Mate 8.

There are many people who come to xda to read reviews and tests about a device before purchasing it, some even check for custom ROMs to see if one has been released but always think more will come in the future. As it is now Custom ROMs based off CM or AOSP is NOT possible. It may NOT be possible in the future either so please buy accordingly.

Indeed.
Single most reason (along with camera) this device is not in my greedy hands already. Shame, really! :crying:

Pfeffernuss said:
Indeed.
Single most reason (along with camera) this device is not in my greedy hands already. Shame, really! :crying:
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Camera is great best I've seen in a while. Better than Note 4 about up to par with V10 in my opinion

Yeah thats true....Glad I am not super big fan of CM. This is just a perfect phone for me specially with the battery life. Camera is pretty good too specially the day shots.

I use layers. Works for enough for me

Ephemera said:
Camera is great best I've seen in a while. Better than Note 4 about up to par with V10 in my opinion
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In that case I do not quite understand why most of the photos I've seen (also on XDA) are "adequate", at best :rolleyes"

Pfeffernuss said:
In that case I do not quite understand why most of the photos I've seen (also on XDA) are "adequate", at best :rolleyes"
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Most have been taken before updates to address the issue. Low lighting is what kills the camera but it kills every camera on nearly every phone.
http://imgur.com/a/8hmSB

Ephemera said:
Most have been taken before updates to address the issue. Low lighting is what kills the camera but it kills every camera on nearly every phone.
http://imgur.com/a/8hmSB
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The camera actually is not that bad in low lighting. I used Zenfone 2 previously, much worst.