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OK, congratulate me!! Thanks. I did it on the first try, no issue or hiccups what-so-ever.
Now for the info. I'm not sure that anyone will be interested, but I'm guessing other people in my position at least might be.
I'm very experienced with computers, but not working directly with rooting/unlocking devices. But I would say anyone who reads up a bit and can follow directions properly could pull it off pretty easily.
So I run 2.2.2, and I used superoneclick 1.6.3.
After opening superoneclick, I switched it from psneuter to rageagainsthecage. I had no idea if I was supposed to do this, but I read all about rageagainstthecage, and never heard of psneuter.
I had my phone connected to my PC, and I left my SD in the phone, but I unmounted it in settings. I have used ADB before, so I knew the drivers were installed and working, and I hit the button root.
After reading this site, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682, I started with debugging off, and turned it on as it said. I then turned it off, but didn't get a chance to turn it back on and off and on, so I just turned it back on (debugging) when it got to "Waiting for device" for the second time.
That was it! It asked to test and see if root was in fact accomplished, and it was. I then installed setCPU (which is basically the only reason I wanted to do this) and as far as I can tell it seems to be working fine.
I have been reading a lot about this for the past few days, but the actual procedure only took a couple of minutes. Keeping in mind, of course, that I already had ADB and drivers working.
Nothing was wiped off my phone, which surprisingly was hard to confirm on the web. I did read somewhere that only unlocking wipes data, but still, you never know.
I hope this helps anyone else who is new and unsure of the process, and I'd be happy to answer any other specific questions based on what I have learned of the last week or so. I know that people hesitate to ask questions in case they have already been asked lots of times, but are buried and hard to find (because that's the position I was in ).
Thanks for posting your "rooting" experience. I'm sure there are people that will find it helpful.
I think when I did mine, it was something along the lines of:
fastboot-oem-unlock
fastboot flash recovery <whatever>
reboot into recovery and flash rom
Other than the ability to install custom ROM's I've yet to see a huge deal in rooting my phone. Anyone care to tell me what I can do with a rooted N1 that is a must have? So far I tried to change some fonts, which didn't work, and discovered that I have to install a custom ROM to change the color of the notification bar, and I can't make the default Google music and news widgets slightly transparent. So educate me, what's the huge deal with rooting, aside from a custom ROM?
Set cpu of course like being said. I remember the first time I rooted my phone was universal androot it was a breeze. Then I lost root and use super one click to gain out back. Root really easy as well
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- Backup application, like MyBackup, can backup your app data(including game save...) if your device is rooted.
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7?
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to?
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away?
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
Built in trackball colors, call blocker, hide frequently called list in the favorites tab, remove unnecessary apps, tmobile wifi calling, notification bar power toggles, trackball wake and unlock, quiet hours, themes, etc., etc., etc. Just off the top of my head. Oh, and Gingerbread!!!
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Some apps want to bypass the home screen "5 second rule" like widget locker, you need root. I setup a widget to reboot (nice!).
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...I did read somewhere that only unlocking wipes data, but still, you never know.
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Unlocking the Bootloader wipes data, rooting does not. This is probably what you read.
offenberg said:
Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7? Yes you can. Often if the ROM is the next version in a series, you can flash without wiping data or cache, but some ROMs require you to do this first.
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to? A Nandroid backup can be reinstalled from any ROM, or even just from Recovery if there is no ROM.
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away? Yes. Either restore your stock ROM Nandroid backup or a passimg.zip.
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
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Hi N1 owners.
I also just root my N1 with superoneclick 1.6.3
After that I flashed CM 6.1.1 and yesterday I tried CM7. Everything has worked fine for me so far, but I have some questions, I hope someone can answer.
1/Can I just flash random roms on top of each other, like i did from cm6 - cm7?
2/ Can I always restore backups, nomatter what rom I come from or to?
3/ when/if official GB come out, can I flash a stock rom and get the OTA update right away?
Sorry, if I ask silly questions ..
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1. As a rule, if you are going from 1 ROM to another totally different ROM, it's always a good idea to wipe. It only takes a few seconds to sign back in to everything. You can bypass immediate sign in and activate wifi if you need it.
2. Nandroids can be reinstalled anytime. However, a nandroid does not contain your HBOOT and Radio. So if you updated those to use a specific ROM, they would stay in place with the nandroid restore.
3. When GB does finally make it out to our specific device, there is no way you would get an OTA before the ROM devs here had you up and running.
***Also note, the 1-click root tools may or may not work right away with the OTA 2.3. So to anyone that rooted using those tools and unrooted to hurry up and get an OTA, you may be stuck on stock until it gets fixed.
Know-Fear said:
1. As a rule, if you are going from 1 ROM to another totally different ROM, it's always a good idea to wipe. It only takes a few seconds to sign back in to everything. You can bypass immediate sign in and activate wifi if you need it.
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I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
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I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
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So what do you lose (if anything) when flashing a new ROM if you backup and do things the right way?
Another question would be if you just flash a new kernal do you lose any/all data?
brettbellaire said:
So what do you lose (if anything) when flashing a new ROM if you backup and do things the right way?
The only thing you'd lose is the old rom
Another question would be if you just flash a new kernal do you lose any/all data?
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Nope
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Nope
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Interesting... Thanks!
@ brettbellaire
I've rooted before, and lost root when ota's came. I've rooted again using superoneclick, and am contemplating cm7. But I feel very cautious about flashing a different rom, I'd cry if I bricked my phone. However, I'm probably going to do it during the next week (unless gingerbread ota arrives).
Andy
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Hmmm, I have been anxious for GB too.... but I'm not sure it's worth it. I don't think it's such a big update. I don't think there's too much of a danger of brinking these days.
I have been contemplating doing what I have to to overclock, see what kind of a difference that makes...
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I agree, do a full wipe if it's a new ROM. Titanium Backup is a great way to get all of your apps and data back after installing the new ROM.
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I am a newbie to root. Can Titanium Backup restore the paid apps? because some apps require online verification with Google at the first time of use.
Also, Z4root does not work on my N1. I want to use superoneclick but where can I find the driver for my win7? thanks
unroot
is it possible to go back and unroot the phone? i.e. hide the padlock during phone startup ..I am using N1 ForYo 2.2.2..Thanks
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is it possible to go back and unroot the phone? i.e. hide the padlock during phone startup ..I am using N1 ForYo 2.2.2..Thanks
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If you see the padlock, you've got an unlocked boot-loader. This can't be re-locked.
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First off all, credit for this guide goes to steal25 and lowetaxes for the original guide
It was just revised for the Shift
A special thanks also goes to strapped365 for his help revising this guide
READ ALL THE INSTRUCTIONS ALL THE WAY THROUGH FIRST BEFORE DOING ANYTHING
I do not reccomend "just flashing over a ROM"
1. REREAD THE INSTRUCTIONS (If your seeing this for the second time, proceed)
2. Make a Nandroid backup of your present set up.
3. Boot into Recovery
4. WIPE EVERYTHING!!! I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH
•Wipe in this order:
DALVIK CACHE
CACHE PARTITION
FORMAT SYSTEM
FORMAT SD:EXT
FORMAT DATA
FORMAT CACHE
THEN WIPE ALL USER DATA/FACTORY RESET
Do all of these 3Xs . Some do it only once. Some do it as much as 4Xs . 3Xs is Recommended
WIPE EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE SD CARD
5. Flash ROM (of your choosing)
6. Reboot (first Boot may take a while ) this is NOT a Bootloop.
7. Before you do anything, let the ROM settle in for about 10 mins. After about 10 mins, unlock the lockscreen.
8. Skip through Initial set up. DO NOT set up any accounts yet. Check and make sure everything installed.
9. IF NOT ON A SENSE ROM go ahead and install google apps
10. Now go ahead and sign into all your accounts. Set up Google and all that good stuff.
11. Open market, and install apps. If you use Titanium Backup DO NOT RESTORE System Apps or Data. Try not to restore Data for any app. If you restore an app like games and such, just restore the app.
THESE ARE THE SAME INSTRUCTIONS I FOLLOW. THE RESULT IS A BETTER FLASH THAN JUST DOING A REGULAR WIPE.
THIS PROCESS WILL ENSURE THE SYSTEM IS WIPED PROPERLY. RESULT, LESS OF A CHANCE FOR ISSUES TO ARISE!
The Original THREAD for the Guide
***I am not responsible for any damage that may occur to your device. If it BLOWS UP - MELTS - STEALS YOUR CAR - OR EATS YOUR GOLDFIISH IT'S ON YOU. This is only a recommendation of what you should do to Properly Wipe your device. If you cannot follow instructions that is on you.
You forgot google apps and google apps new talk which should be flashed right after the rom.
He's a sense guy probably why.
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You forgot google apps and google apps new talk which should be flashed right after the rom.
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Yea these instructions were orignally posted (by him) on themikmik.com which is soley a sense rom development site, and he just reposted them on XDA because there are alot of people who don't read themikmik (i hardly do) lol.
Btw nice idea posting it here too Prboy1969
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VICODAN said:
You forgot google apps and google apps new talk which should be flashed right after the rom.
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Didn't forget . But just for you, updated OP .
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Didn't forget . But just for you, updated OP .
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I'd give you a thanks but I'm limited to 5 per day.
Thanks very much for the detailed step-by-step instructions. Great tips... and I've successfully flashed MikShifted G Executive Edition onto my Evo Shift. It's *gorgeous*!!
Your very welcome. Glad I could help .
9. Boot into recovery, and wipe CACHE and DALVIK-CACHE. Then Reboot phone.
is wipe cache the same as format cache ?
Yes and no. It's a deeper clean allegedly.
This is the one I meant
Here we go again . I meant this one .
Can we get this stickied please?
is there anyway to write a script that can be run from recovery to do all that stuff automatically?
I'm sure it can be accomplished. I just don't know how :'(
TEAM MiK
Mik Roms Since 3/13/11
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Can we get this stickied please?
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I'd second that but I don't agree with the instructions regarding Titanium. Of course, one should only restore system data at their own risk with the expectation that it'll mess things up but I've never had any trouble restoring data for nonsystem apps. For me being able to restore an app's data after a wipe or reset is one of the main benefits of having root access. I would never flash different ROMs if I thought I was gonna lose all my app data.
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is there anyway to write a script that can be run from recovery to do all that stuff automatically?
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Yes. My Linuxfu is weak though, so I'm not gonna be writing it but I think it's a fairly easy task. Maybe check the Evo forums, I've seen a lot of them mention a full wipe zip. I wanna say it's Myn's but wouldn't place money on it.
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I'd second that but I don't agree with the instructions regarding Titanium. Of course, one should only restore system data at their own risk with the expectation that it'll mess things up but I've never had any trouble restoring data for nonsystem apps. For me being able to restore an app's data after a wipe or reset is one of the main benefits of having root access. I would never flash different ROMs if I thought I was gonna lose all my app data.
Yes. My Linuxfu is weak though, so I'm not gonna be writing it but I think it's a fairly easy task. Maybe check the Evo forums, I've seen a lot of them mention a full wipe zip. I wanna say it's Myn's but wouldn't place money on it.
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There is a " Format ALL " for the OG EVO made by Calkulin. It's on his thread HERE. But it's only for 2.1 / 2.2 . As for my opinion on TB, well it comes from a LOT of Flahing ( read FLASHAHOLIC ). That's why I'm always flashing devices for other people. Just so I can get that rush of installing a new Rom on a device . Yes I know it's a sickness . But I figure it's safer to instruct people not to restore any data. Because we are who we are, and if you say some is ok. Then what is likely to happen is it will almost all be restored . Most always causing all kinds of weird issues. Yes you can restore some app data, but you have to use common sense ( no pun intended ) .
Mod can you please sticky this for us. Thank you
good guide noticed a big improvment! thanks. +1 for sticky!
No problem. Glad it helped you .
Im not rich or I would have got a newer version tablet by now, but if anyone who helps has a donate button I have no issue donating a couple dollars to the person who helps me get this done, Thanks. Or just a couple dollar PP gift. better than nothing I guess.
I just want to be sure I dont mess anything up here. I have a nexus 7 wifi model.
I used NRT to unlock and root and all seems fine. Am I correct in this:
I use nandroid backup to backup first
Put ROM file on device (where do I put it?)
Wipe (is this done via nexus root toolkit or is ok do do in the custom recovery?)
Then what, boot into recovery and find the ROM and install it via recovery install button?
Then do I do the same with a kernal? Where do I put it?
Then done?
I know there are guides around but for a complete newbie I need to be sure cause I dont always see a complete fully explained step by step. Just like when I was stock not getting SU to work after rooting via nrt, I did read to flash SuperSU.zip, but had no idea how, then when I found the file and thought maybe install from recovery meant same as flash, I didnt know the message about messing the device up was normal so I was afraid at first.
THANKS to any replies,
Been unsure for days now trying to make sure my ducks are in a row before i commit to a ROM/Kernal. I want to CPU control for both under and overclocking etc. Mainly overclock just a little. I must say I love root already, got stuff to work I couldn't before
1. Create nandroid- there's a free app called something like nandroid on line - very simple to use
1a. I'd also recommend backing up with titanium backup app. It means you can keep your app data (e.g. game progress) when switching between ROMs, unlike a nandroid which is just a backup of your device as a restorable image
2. Put ROM file on device - ROM will be a .zip file, out it wherever you want, as long as you remember where it is
3. Put kernel anywhere on device - easiest to find a kernel with .zip format (recommend M-kernel)
4. Wipe - from custom recovery
5. Hit install in your custom recovery, I always flash kernel and then ROM, but I don't think it really matters
Install from recovery and flash are the same thing.
I'd recommend only flashing ROM or kernel and sticking with that set up for a few days, then flashing the other desired element. That way, if anything goes wrong then it's easier to pinpoint.
Good luck!!
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THANKS! Don't see a donate button, did you want anything?
No, of course not! God luck!
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butler0607 said:
5. Hit install in your custom recovery, I always flash kernel and then ROM, but I don't think it really matters
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Actually that completely matters. Flashing a kernel before rom is worthless because the rom contains a kernel that will replace whatever you have just flashed.
If you want to run a custom kernel on a rom it is recommended to boot into the rom first before flashing the kernel.
Pirateghost said:
Actually that completely matters. Flashing a kernel before rom is worthless because the rom contains a kernel that will replace whatever you have just flashed.
If you want to run a custom kernel on a rom it is recommended to boot into the rom first before flashing the kernel.
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If I just want root access and overclock should i just flash kernal and forget a rom?
can i revert back to stock kernal if need to? ask cause need to find a kernal that has V4L enabled for a usb camera app i use currently to use an inspection camera via usb on my tablet. I guess i need to read what various roms and kernals add. do i need to do both. Hard to know what to pick out of them, lol.
Thanks for advice.
Anyone know of a list to show ROMs with V4L enabled? None seem to mention it?
I have read and see different suggestions around on various sites. What all do I wipe? I have read cache, dalvik cache, plus other stuff. What all must I wipe before flashing a rom or kernel? I did a nandroid backup already.
PirateGhost, Ill donate a couple dollars if you help, thanks.
Thanks.
When going from one rom to a different one all you need to do in custom recovery is select factory reset.
This wipes out your currently installed apps, their settings, but doesn't touch your 'sdcard'
Wiping dalvik is pointless as it's automatically handled in the rom process, and cache is wiped in factory reset.
When switching kernels follow the instructions provided by the dev. If no instructions are provided, it's safe to assume you just flash without wiping anything.
When doing this, I'd recommend titanium backup too. When you do a factory reset, all apps are lost, but some data is kept (not sure on the details). Basically Titanium allows you to restore all your apps with data when you change ROMs.
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Pirateghost said:
When going from one rom to a different one all you need to do in custom recovery is select factory reset.
This wipes out your currently installed apps, their settings, but doesn't touch your 'sdcard'
Wiping dalvik is pointless as it's automatically handled in the rom process, and cache is wiped in factory reset.
When switching kernels follow the instructions provided by the dev. If no instructions are provided, it's safe to assume you just flash without wiping anything.
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Thanks! Ill donate a couple dollars later today when I get back from the doctor.
I have not put any customs ROM(s) on yet, so is it the same still? All I have done so far is unlock/root with custom recovery and nandroid backup....
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When doing this, I'd recommend titanium backup too.
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Yeah I backed up the one app I needed to via TB, I just recently unlocked and rooted so lost most app data anyway and have only added one back so far. Thanks.
butler0607 said:
When doing this, I'd recommend titanium backup too. When you do a factory reset, all apps are lost, but some data is kept (not sure on the details). Basically Titanium allows you to restore all your apps with data when you change ROMs.
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No data is kept except what's on the sdcard. Mostly only game saves and some basic stuff. Apps databases are wiped during factory reset.
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No data is kept except what's on the sdcard. Mostly only game saves and some basic stuff. Apps databases are wiped during factory reset.
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Thanks, Ill donate a couple bucks. had bad day yesterday so wasn't on much.
Is it normal for the donate link to be missing the regular PayPal security info on the browser?
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Is it normal for the donate link to be missing the regular PayPal security info on the browser?
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I have no idea what this means.
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I have no idea what this means.
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Maybe Ill just do it and change my password when finished. Thanks. Sorry not replied yet have been in a lot of pain Only a couple dollars but better than nothing I guess. Thanks for your help. Ill be back online tonight to do it.
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Maybe Ill just do it and change my password when finished. Thanks. Sorry not replied yet have been in a lot of pain Only a couple dollars but better than nothing I guess. Thanks for your help. Ill be back online tonight to do it.
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Not forgot about you, had family issues, holiday etc, well did forget but I'll look into why it does that and figure it out. Sorry for delay.
Hello everyone. I've tried really hard to DO NOT create this thread. As it happens I have used all I know (which isnt much) to try to fix this problem but got no success.
So I've got a S4 GT-I9505. I've recently decided to root it mainly because I wanted full External SD-card access to some apps. Here are some facts about my rooting:
- I used TWRP;
- I used SuperSU;
- I kept the stock ROM. I personally dont have anything to complain about it so I didnt install any custom ROMs.
- I had a problem with Knox afterwards, the phone was rebooting and freezing. I made a backup on Titanium and then uninstalled every Knox-related app.
- The system worked nicely for days.
Then I decided to clean some garbage that I knew was present in my device, like ghost folders and foster files and such.
- I installed SD-Maid and Clean Master.
- On the same day, I switched my SIM card because of some personal issues. I'm brazilian but now living in Deutschland. The change of SIM cards (if it matters) was as follows: bought the phone > inserted brazilian SIM > inserted deutsch SIM > inserted brazilian SIM (due to a personal problem) > back to deutsch SIM. I'm telling you this because I'm not sure of how relevant it is. Just trying to give as much info as possible.
- I cleaned some **** with SD-Maid AND Clean Master.
What happened next:
- WhatsApp was broken. I couldnt receive any media (voice recordings, videos, images, nothing at all).
- I tried re-installing the App
- I tried to restore my WhatsApp backup from Titanium. No success*.
- I tried to restore my backup from TWRD. No success.
- I tried to change WhatsApp folder (on data/media) permissions to r-r-r---- and then back to 00775. No success.
- I tried re-registering my phone to whatsapp network. No success.
- I tried deleting whatsapp folder on data/media (WhatsApp FAQ recomendation). Thats when WhatsApp stopped also SENDING media. I couldnt simply send or receive through the app.
- I tried re-creating the WhatsApp media folder on data. No success.
- I tried a factory reset followed by a TWRD backup restoration. WhatsApp was once again SENDING, but NOT RECEIVING media. When my phone finished booting and the launcher loaded, I was immediately prompted by a WhatsApp message saying something like "Conection failed! Please verify your phone number. WhatsApp can only be installed in one device per phone-number" even though everything else internet-related was working just fine.
(* when I say NO SUCCESS, I refer to the fact that WhatsApp still not receiving/sending media, not that I failed to implement that given fix)
Now, when I wiped my phone to factory defaults, I noticed that in TWRD prompt it said something like "Wiping Data, EXCEPT data/media". My knowledge of the subject isnt great but I think it might be something with this folder.
Any thoughts?
Thank you very much in advance!
Do nothing. Delete your account from whatsapp and recreate it with the number you wish to use
My whatsapp works fine with a different no. And has a diff sim for calling.
Maybe to much of backup.. restore...bla bla..made it crash.
Press Thanks if I helped
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Venorian said:
- I tried re-registering my phone to whatsapp network. No success.
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DeepankarS said:
Do nothing. Delete your account from whatsapp and recreate it with the number you wish to use
My whatsapp works fine with a different no. And has a diff sim for calling.
Maybe to much of backup.. restore...bla bla..made it crash.
Press Thanks if I helped
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It was not very clear in my post, indeed, but yes I have tried that as well. Thanks for trying!
I would just take the shortcut.
- Backup the apps you want to backup with Titanium.
- Make a backup of Whatsapp from within the app.
- Wipe from TWRP recovery (I assume that's what you mean by TWRD). Use the option prepare for rom flash (don't know the excact words, but you understand when you see the option).
- Reflash the rom you are currently on with Odin (or flash a custom rom).
You can also just skip the wiping part and just flash the rom with Odin again. I always like to start from scratch if something goes wrong, but it should probably work without the wipe.
Then restore the apps you want to restore. Whatsapp should probably be working now.
You can spend many more hours finding a solution, but my guess is that SD-maid or Clean Master deleted something it should not have. Always be carefull with those kind of apps. I don't really like those apps because the benefit you get from them is limited.
GOT A FIX!
After 2 days of hitting my head on the wall with this, I came up with a solution.
My girlfriend has the exact same phone as me (though I think any rooted android with WhatsApp installed would do).
I entered her data/media/whatsapp folder and created all the folders that were missing on my own folder (deleted by CleanMaster just for being empty). Then I gave all the folders the exact same permissions (rwxrwx--x or 0775) as my girlfriend's device and voila! It's working perfectly!
Now just for future reference and to feed my curiosity: why does factory reset through TWRP do not also wipe data/media? If this folder were wiped, I would get a fresh WhatsApp install and the problem would have been gone sooner. I kinda dont understand the folders' structure in my phone. Sometimes it looks like I can get to the same very place using diferent paths (like /data/ OR /emulated/ OR /0/ OR /sdcard/).
Anyway, thanks people! Though I figured it all by myself, this forum still rocks!
Venorian said:
GOT A FIX!
After 2 days of hitting my head on the wall with this, I came up with a solution.
My girlfriend has the exact same phone as me (though I think any rooted android with WhatsApp installed would do).
I entered her data/media/whatsapp folder and created all the folders that were missing on my own folder (deleted by CleanMaster just for being empty). Then I gave all the folders the exact same permissions (rwxrwx--x or 0775) as my girlfriend's device and voila! It's working perfectly!
Now just for future reference and to feed my curiosity: why does factory reset through TWRP do not also wipe data/media? If this folder were wiped, I would get a fresh WhatsApp install and the problem would have been gone sooner. I kinda dont understand the folders' structure in my phone. Sometimes it looks like I can get to the same very place using diferent paths (like /data/ OR /emulated/ OR /0/ OR /sdcard/).
Anyway, thanks people! Though I figured it all by myself, this forum still rocks!
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Good that you found a solution.
It would be bad thing if the custom recovery would standard wipe data/media because that would wipe your entire internal sd. People that flash roms don't want that to happen. You can still wipe it from the recovery, it's just in a different place then the standard wiping.
Lennyz1988 said:
Good that you found a solution.
It would be bad thing if the custom recovery would standard wipe data/media because that would wipe your entire internal sd. People that flash roms don't want that to happen. You can still wipe it from the recovery, it's just in a different place then the standard wiping.
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So basically its just a matter of keeping your apps and app data? Not something system-damaging or system-related at all?
And thanks for your answer!
Venorian said:
So basically its just a matter of keeping your apps and app data? Not something system-damaging or system-related at all?
And thanks for your answer!
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No your apps and data will be wiped. Basically every part that could interfere with a new rom is wiped. It's only the data on your internal storage that is kept. So apps (like Whatsapp) also write data to your internal storage and that won't get wiped.
/system
/data (excluded /data/media)
/cache
and a few more will be wiped.
(There are more parts that don't get wiped, but that are parts that neither an app or you will ever touch.)
Now the problem is back. I can't really understand what happened.
I rebooted my phone just to check if everything was OK and then to do a new backup in TWRP.
Checked WhatsApp and the problem was back. Then I went to see the files and some folders that I've just copied were gone! The WhatsApp main folder on data/media was still there, but some subfolders were simply missing. I also noticed that my copy of that folder on my External SD-card was also gone! Like WTH?!
Any help will be much appreciated.
P.S.: and to my happiness, copying the files once again (as I've done before) simply doesnt work. This is driving me crazy, seriously.
this happened to me once, and wasn't whatsapp only, the reason whatsapp wasn't being able to receive/send media files was because it somehow could not access the internal storage.. same with all my other apps, it happened when restoring a full rom backup with CWM.. and the only way i managed to fix it was to re-flash the stock rom with odin
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this happened to me once, and wasn't whatsapp only, the reason whatsapp wasn't being able to receive/send media files was because it somehow could not access the internal storage.. same with all my other apps, it happened when restoring a full rom backup with CWM.. and the only way i managed to fix it was to re-flash the stock rom with odin
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Not even a factory reset will do?
How do I find a stock ROM from Samsung (with 4.4.2) compatible with my S4 GT-I9505? Also: should I also wipe everything or simply flash the rom without doing anything else?
Now that you said, I also noticed that one of my favorite games (Mushroom Wars) has also stopped working. Might be that you're right!
Venorian said:
Not even a factory reset will do?
How do I find a stock ROM from Samsung (with 4.4.2) compatible with my S4 GT-I9505? Also: should I also wipe everything or simply flash the rom without doing anything else?
Now that you said, I also noticed that one of my favorite games (Mushroom Wars) has also stopped working. Might be that you're right!
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Do as I suggested. Start from a blank sheet and stay away from those rom cleaners for now.
You could just take a clean custom rom, then you don't have to worry about deleting those knox stuff and rerooting again.
Venorian said:
Not even a factory reset will do?
How do I find a stock ROM from Samsung (with 4.4.2) compatible with my S4 GT-I9505? Also: should I also wipe everything or simply flash the rom without doing anything else?
Now that you said, I also noticed that one of my favorite games (Mushroom Wars) has also stopped working. Might be that you're right!
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i honestly didn't attempt a factory reset because i wanted to keep all my stuff, so i just flashed the stock rom on odin and everything worked out fine, was the only way i was able to fix it
-Ric- said:
i honestly didn't attempt a factory reset because i wanted to keep all my stuff, so i just flashed the stock rom on odin and everything worked out fine, was the only way i was able to fix it
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By doing this I'll have to reroot, right? Do you think it is a problem if I recover my backup from TWRP after flashing the stock rom?
Dont wanna go through the configs and app installing all over again.
Venorian said:
By doing this I'll have to reroot, right? Do you think it is a problem if I recover my backup from TWRP after flashing the stock rom?
Dont wanna go through the configs and app installing all over again.
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you don't need to re-configure or recover a backup, if you flash the same stock on odin as you already had running, without wiping, it should work right away, without any issues and without any need for a wipe or a restore, you will have to re-root though, yes.
-Ric- said:
you don't need to re-configure or recover a backup, if you flash the same stock on odin as you already had running, without wiping, it should work right away, without any issues and without any need for a wipe or a restore, you will have to re-root though, yes.
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Here is your stock firmware: http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=33568
Tkkg1994 said:
Here is your stock firmware: http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=33568
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This is for switzerland, isnt it? A Brazilian version would be most welcome! I'm currently downloading one from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265477
-Ric- said:
you don't need to re-configure or recover a backup, if you flash the same stock on odin as you already had running, without wiping, it should work right away, without any issues and without any need for a wipe or a restore, you will have to re-root though, yes.
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Sure! Thank you for your help!
Just a side note: while downloading the stock rom, I found this and installed the given app (Folder Mount) just to check. As soon as I opened it, it pop'd a message saying that he identified a crucial problem with my /bin/sdcardwhatever file. So yes, I'm confident that your solution will be the one to fix my problem. Let's see...
Also thanks for Lennyz1988 for your suggestion. Your fix seems a little bit... harder?... for me, but if this one doesnt work I'll try yours and post the results. BTW, where do I find a clean custom ROM? Thank you!
Venorian said:
This is for switzerland, isnt it? A Brazilian version would be most welcome! I'm currently downloading one from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265477
Sure! Thank you for your help!
Just a side note: while downloading the stock rom, I found this and installed the given app (Folder Mount) just to check. As soon as I opened it, it pop'd a message saying that he identified a crucial problem with my /bin/sdcardwhatever file. So yes, I'm confident that your solution will be the one to fix my problem. Let's see...
Also thanks for Lennyz1988 for your suggestion. Your fix seems a little bit... harder?... for me, but if this one doesnt work I'll try yours and post the results. BTW, where do I find a clean custom ROM? Thank you!
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Cause you want a Brazil version, here you go : http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=31097
Lennyz1988 said:
I would just take the shortcut.
- Backup the apps you want to backup with Titanium.
- Make a backup of Whatsapp from within the app.
- Wipe from TWRP recovery (I assume that's what you mean by TWRD). Use the option prepare for rom flash (don't know the excact words, but you understand when you see the option).
- Reflash the rom you are currently on with Odin (or flash a custom rom).
You can also just skip the wiping part and just flash the rom with Odin again. I always like to start from scratch if something goes wrong, but it should probably work without the wipe.
Then restore the apps you want to restore. Whatsapp should probably be working now.
You can spend many more hours finding a solution, but my guess is that SD-maid or Clean Master deleted something it should not have. Always be carefull with those kind of apps. I don't really like those apps because the benefit you get from them is limited.
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-Ric- said:
this happened to me once, and wasn't whatsapp only, the reason whatsapp wasn't being able to receive/send media files was because it somehow could not access the internal storage.. same with all my other apps, it happened when restoring a full rom backup with CWM.. and the only way i managed to fix it was to re-flash the stock rom with odin
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I just realized both solutions are the same, LOL.
ODIN just finished flashing the stock rom. Will update soon with the preliminary results.
Apparently it did NOT work. Not completely at least.
WhatsApp is now once again making voice recordings and receiving them as well, but is not handling any other kind of media. Mushroom Wars (the game I talked about earlier) is also not loading.
The system looks just it was before, only without root (I know that was expected).
Don't know what to do now.
Just one more question: how much of a problem is it restoring a backup using TWRP? I mean, in a scenario in which I get this problem fixed, I couldnt simply restore any backup due to the possibility of screwing my internal storage thing all over again?
Hi,
I want to install the ROM here on my Samsung Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505). I rooted and installed CM on it about 4 months ago, but since have forgotten anything about the process except for towelroot lol. My phone is currently running jflte snapshot M10 ROM for CM. Unfortunately, I have grown quite sick of it as I find I have to restart my phone once, maybe twice a day for everything to run smoothly. I run into problems where the WiFi likes to get stuck saying 'Turning on..'. Ive also been having problems with Google Maps and GPS lately and havent been able to rely on it, possibly its an issue its having with CM. I want to have the fresh Lollipop feel on my phone without any problems if possible. The only trouble is I dont know how to get there. Can anyone help me? Ive completely forgotten the process needed and when I try to look for it on here I am overwhelmed with things I need to do, which version I need to use etc etc. If anyone would be able to help me achieve this it would be greatly appreciated. In the end I just want a nice Lollipop android phone that doesn't have problems on my current S4 (Id rather not have to get a new phone at least until December ) I'm pretty sure I dont have a custom kernel or anything like that as it mentioned in some pages that I will need to get one I think? I also have philz CWM installed.
You have Philz installed, so you don't need to root again. Download the ROM and follow the instructions on the page.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
You have Philz installed, so you don't need to root again. Download the ROM and follow the instructions on the page.
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It also mentioned to make sure I have the latest modem for my variant, how do I check/update that?
In regards to the kernel (which has a link on the same page), what do I do with that?
I don't have the latest modem for my I9505 and that ROM works perfectly fine. Where you've been on a custom ROM for a while finding out which modem you're supposed to use may be difficult. That's also why I recommend not worrying about it, unless you need to.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I don't have the latest modem for my I9505 and that ROM works perfectly fine. Where you've been on a custom ROM for a while finding out which modem you're supposed to use may be difficult. That's also why I recommend not worrying about it, unless you need to.
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Ok thanks. In regards to the kernel that is linked on the page, I guess I would be at an advantage if I downloaded and installed that too. How do I install it?
If' we're talking the same GPE ROM, and I think we are, the kernel is included in the ROM download. You'll be prompted to select a kernel when you run the install through the recovery.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
If' we're talking the same GPE ROM, and I think we are, the kernel is included in the ROM download. You'll be prompted to select a kernel when you run the install through the recovery.
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Ok thanks a lot!
So process:
Backup data/photos etc
Nandroid backup
Full wipe using philz?
Flash ROM
Done?
You've got it.
When you are prompted to select the kernel, use the Googy Max kernel. The stock kernel sometimes causes random reboots. Also, on first boot the S4 will sit for a fair amount of time before prompting you to set a language. THIS IS NORMAL. It's because Android 5.0.x uses Art instead of Dalvik, and has to compile the apps the first time around.
In other words, after rebooting, just be patient.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
You've got it.
When you are prompted to select the kernel, use the Googy Max kernel. The stock kernel sometimes causes random reboots. Also, on first boot the S4 will sit for a fair amount of time before prompting you to set a language. THIS IS NORMAL. It's because Android 5.0.x uses Art instead of Dalvik, and has to compile the apps the first time around.
In other words, after rebooting, just be patient.
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Ok, thanks a lot for the help! Greatly appreciated. Hope I dont run into any problems
I installed that ROM on Sunday, so what I did is still fresh in my mind. If you have problems, just use this thread and quote me. I'll do my best to help.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I installed that ROM on Sunday, so what I did is still fresh in my mind. If you have problems, just use this thread and quote me. I'll do my best to help.
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All installed, was quite easy! Looks bloody beautiful, love it already. Thanks a heap!
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I installed that ROM on Sunday, so what I did is still fresh in my mind. If you have problems, just use this thread and quote me. I'll do my best to help.
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I made and error when backing up and didnt back up my photos onto a computer Is there any way that my nandroid recovery or titanium backup have saved my photos and how could I recover them?
jc258 said:
I made and error when backing up and didnt back up my photos onto a computer Is there any way that my nandroid recovery or titanium backup have saved my photos and how could I recover them?
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No, they are gone forever.
How is that even possible that you wiped them? Wiping in the custom recovery never touches your internal storage by default. So you have done it yourself. You probably did a factory reset from within android itself. Never do that again. Use the custom recovery for wiping only and you never will have this problem again.
Lennyz1988 said:
No, they are gone forever.
How is that even possible that you wiped them? Wiping in the custom recovery never touches your internal storage by default. So you have done it yourself. You probably did a factory reset from within android itself. NEVER DO THAT AGAIN. Use the custom recovery for wiping only and you never will have this problem again.
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Are you sure about that? It happened the first time I flashed a ROM. Wiped cache, wiped Dalvik through CWM. Never did a factory reset. No need for caps.
jc258 said:
Are you sure about that? It happened the first time I flashed a ROM. Wiped cache, wiped Dalvik through CWM. Never did a factory reset. No need for caps.
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No it's not possible for it to happen without you doing so. Unless you encrypted your phone or something.
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The rom he installed has an aroma installer which offers the option to do a simple wipe (Dalvik, cache and data), no wipe (Dirty flash) and a factory reset (which also wipes the internal storage).
By default it is set on factory reset option.
It also says in red letters that this option is recommended.
So maybe he left it on factory reset (since it was also recommended) , instead of changing it to simple wipe, and that wiped the whole phone, including the internal storage.
Will a software that recovers deleted files not work? Since the phone wasn't encrypted.
It would if Windows saw the internal storage as a drive. Due to MTP it doesn't. He'll have to do a search, but there was another S4 owner who lost his photos and was trying to get them back. I don't know if a solution was ever found.
GDReaper said:
The rom he installed has an aroma installer which offers the option to do a simple wipe (Dalvik, cache and data), no wipe (Dirty flash) and a factory reset (which also wipes the internal storage).
By default it is set on factory reset option.
It also says in red letters that this option is recommended.
So maybe he left it on factory reset (since it was also recommended) , instead of changing it to simple wipe, and that wiped the whole phone, including the internal storage.
Will a software that recovers deleted files not work? Since the phone wasn't encrypted.
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If that's the case then shame on the developer. A factory reset in a custom recovery should leave the internal storage intact.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
It would if Windows saw the internal storage as a drive. Due to MTP it doesn't. He'll have to do a search, but there was another S4 owner who lost his photos and was trying to get them back. I don't know if a solution was ever found.
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No it's impossible. Once it's gone the files are permanently gone. Not even a professional company can restore them. That's because of TRIM that Android has from version 4.3.
Lennyz1988 said:
If that's the case then shame on the developer. A factory reset in a custom recovery should leave the internal storage intact.
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It's not in the recovery. It's in the aroma installer. Those are 2 different things.
Besides, there is a description, under each setting, of what each one does.
@Lennyz1988: Perhaps you should bring this up with the developers of the ROM and see what they say. I suspect they have a very good reason for wiping the internal storage, and my gut instinct tells me it has to do with the Android folder on there.
On the flip side, thanks for the homework you gave me. I have to look into what TRIM is all about, as my last device was powered by Gingerbread.