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A horrible thing just happened today...my god damned friend dropped my universal down from 3 feet height...nothing really has happened, but the edges are bruised...a little paint chipped off at a couple places....small deformations in the contours :-(
he says....."duh....sorry"
i'm all freaked out here :-(
now.... the question
is the body/ outer shell of the universal replacable?
if yes, how much does it cost and where can I order it from?
arghhh :-(
thanks,
San
PS: if you don't have an answer, or nothing to say at all, atleast sympathize for me!!
Presumably, you mean "ex-friend" ;-)
Cheers,
Steve
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Presumably, you mean "ex-friend" ;-)
Cheers,
Steve
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food for thought indeed!!!
cheers,
San
dreamtheatre39, I am so sorry. I know you waited so long for your Qtek. I suggest you friend should start saving now for your birthday - perhaps a replacement?
I too am very careful with my EXEC. I want it to last forever or at least till its next Pocket PC phone upgrade. I would really hate it if my EXEC would get any scratch or defect due to handling, especially if it is not my fault. So I do understand your frustration.
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Presumably, you mean "ex-friend" ;-)
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Would have had to carry him out in a pine box, if it had been mine!
pine? cardboard at a push :wink:
send it back under the insurance for the device?
thanks everyone!
I guess only people who own a universal will know how valuable it is....I am over obsessed with my gadget, and have constantly been "over protective" since i've got it! I keep a "wipe" sandwiched in the clam shell al the time to prevent scratches on the keyboard and display.....I keep wiping off the dirt at 5 minute intervals thru the day!
and in the name of satan why o why is it meeee to suffer this wretched wrath :-(
Can anyone tell me if its possible to change the outer casing? Is it complicated and too difficult to do so?
Thank you all once again!
San
I think only contact with HTC or where you bought Universal to see what they can do , my PDA2K got replace by HTC.
Hi!!!
Sad to know...but I can tell u the goodthing that IT IS POSSIBLE to have a new body..Entire casing can be changed..so do not worry.As of now the stocks are not there as it is just launched officially in India...In case I get a dead one with a Good Body, will let u know...I am based in Pune....
I can relate dreamtheater.... I dont think I can trust any friend with my device without constant guidance. Even my husband has to be under my eye when he's tinkering with my dopod.
Is it still under warranty? Then maybe it can be replaced... or maybe you can always give subtle or not so subtle hints to your friend (if he is really a friend) to replace it...
Good luck
hey!
hee hee I wish i could give those *subtle* hints lol
It really is not so bad, frankly speaking....but, the freak that I am....makes me soooo damn fussy about things, and i keep looking at those tiny abrasions all the time....and cant get it off my phucking head :x
I'll just have to wait until I screw it up a little more, and by that time....I'd possibly get an outer casing so that I could slip it in some new clothes!
Until then.....
cheers and have a great new year guys (n angelika!)!
San
Hey DT,
That really sucks mate.
Your friend should really take responsibility for this, but i know its not the money. I know you would pay good money to have your universal back in good shape this instant...
I could have helped you if you had a Jasjar since i-mate is based in Dubai, but since you got yourself a qtek, there really isn't anything i can do. However, i do advise you talk to MMB about this as he might be able to arrange for a body from his supplier. No harm in trying!
Dont worry, it will be fine. Also, get yourself a good case like the ones from Piel Frama or a metal case from Brando
Cheers.
Gutted for you m8. Know exactly how you must feel. Been treating my new Wizard like a new born baby since christmas day and wont let anyone touch it. The wife asked to have a look at it and I just told her it was too much phone for her to handle
Im totally anal when I get a new phone and am constantly looking at it thinking it that a scratch. Im thinking of making the whole family shave their heads as head hairs dont half look like scratches from a distance.... Pubic hairs are far easier to spot though :wink:
Hope you sort yourself out m8.
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Hey DT,
That really sucks mate.
Your friend should really take responsibility for this, but i know its not the money. I know you would pay good money to have your universal back in good shape this instant...
I could have helped you if you had a Jasjar since i-mate is based in Dubai, but since you got yourself a qtek, there really isn't anything i can do. However, i do advise you talk to MMB about this as he might be able to arrange for a body from his supplier. No harm in trying!
Dont worry, it will be fine. Also, get yourself a good case like the ones from Piel Frama or a metal case from Brando
Cheers.
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hey m8! how've you been? ;-)
I wonder why I didn't think of asking mmb....I'm sending david a mail right away! He gave me excellent service while I bought it from him, hope hed do his magic once again ;-)
I spent the whole of today trying to find a case for my universal...I looked around for camera cases, waist pouches, n-gage cases.....all of them are either tooo small, or hideously bigg! Gave up....I guess its only piel frama for now :-(
got to keep humans away from my qtek until then
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lol are u still allowed to stay at home?
cheers,
San
Yes but apparently only because she feels sorry for me that I wouldnt be able to charge my Wizard living on the streets
I always liked the couch anyway :wink:
my baby
I am appalled how easy it is to get the Jasjar scratched, the metal also gets dents so easily. I need to find out the cost of a new cover, I don’t like my baby with imperfections
Three feet? That's like... 3 stories in human-height scale!
Hey, at least your screen didn't crack like http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=36932 jesax's... poor guy.
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Three feet? That's like... 3 stories in human-height scale!
Hey, at least your screen didn't crack like http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=36932 jesax's... poor guy.
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3 feet indeed :-( it fell right off the table...
lucky for me, I had the cover protecting it....the one that comes with the device....I guess that took most of the impact!
If my screen had cracked....holy hell :O I don't quite know what I would have done!! I couldn't force my friend to buy me a new one, cuz....I would have killed him immediately
anyways, I've decided that i'd live with the scratches :-( considering the fact that it would take me another month and *all* the complications all over & again for me to source it! Now i'm ten times more careful....a little late though :-(
Best,
San
Hi dt,
Doing good mate, thanks.
Just be happy that the incident occurred on the 31st of last year and not the 1st of this year. Otherwise, that would have been a nasty way of starting a new year!
Any response from MMB?
Chin up mate!
Hi!
A few days ago, my Jasjar's display started to become horizontal mirrored after I resume from standby. The screen flickers from normal to mirrored several times per second :-(
I can temporarily fix it by applying some pressure on the display border and doing a few stand-by/resume cycles but after all, that's really annoying. I'm quite sure that there's some kind of cable broke inside my Jasjar but unfortunately, my warranty's gone and I have to repair it by myself.
Has anyone done something similar? Which spare parts might be needed? How much might it cost if I'll send it to an authorized Imate dealer?
Any help would be greatly appreciated ...
Greetings,
.ox
Mine did exactly the same thing and was replaced under warranty from t-mobile, my guess was it was dry solder as opposed to a broken cable.
Not much help I know, but you're not alone in having the problem
Oh, if it's a dry solder, I guess I'm out of luck and the mainboard needs to be replaced :-(
So I'm going to find some very small screwdrivers and take a look inside.
.ox
this was a failure that was common on early pocketpc. i guess somethings never change
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Hi!
A few days ago, my Jasjar's display started to become horizontal mirrored after I resume from standby. The screen flickers from normal to mirrored several times per second :-(
I can temporarily fix it by applying some pressure on the display border and doing a few stand-by/resume cycles but after all, that's really annoying. I'm quite sure that there's some kind of cable broke inside my Jasjar but unfortunately, my warranty's gone and I have to repair it by myself.
Has anyone done something similar? Which spare parts might be needed? How much might it cost if I'll send it to an authorized Imate dealer?
Any help would be greatly appreciated ...
Greetings,
.ox
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sorry to ask but how come you're already out of warranty? your device can't be 1 year old yet. :shock:
My Jasjar did the exact same thing. Unfortunately, I bought it from a betch on eBay who did not tell me they were having problems with the unit. The device did the flickering for about a week as I was trying to get in touch with iMate and the seller (which I was unsuccessful with both), and then quit flickering. Unfortunately, the device has other problems now, as the screen is unresponsive for the first few seconds after startup.
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sorry to ask but how come you're already out of warranty? your device can't be 1 year old yet. :shock:
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very simple: eBay and no proof of purchase
.ox
PDAholic said:
My Jasjar did the exact same thing. Unfortunately, I bought it from a betch on eBay who did not tell me they were having problems with the unit. The device did the flickering for about a week as I was trying to get in touch with iMate and the seller (which I was unsuccessful with both), and then quit flickering. Unfortunately, the device has other problems now, as the screen is unresponsive for the first few seconds after startup.
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What software do you have loading at startup? Check your \Windows\StartUp folder
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cmonex said:
sorry to ask but how come you're already out of warranty? your device can't be 1 year old yet. :shock:
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very simple: eBay and no proof of purchase
.ox
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isn't the IMEI enough for the warranty?
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isn't the IMEI enough for the warranty?
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it definitely *should* be enough but I've found no i-Mate service point here in Germany willing to do it for free
But now I've found a company which told me to repair my jasjar for about 30 EUR plus spare parts (which, I hope, doesn't involve a new display for about 200 EUR )
.ox
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cmonex said:
isn't the IMEI enough for the warranty?
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it definitely *should* be enough but I've found no i-Mate service point here in Germany willing to do it for free
But now I've found a company which told me to repair my jasjar for about 30 EUR plus spare parts (which, I hope, doesn't involve a new display for about 200 EUR )
.ox
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imate, oops. they really suck then! have read a lot of threads on this, so is this true actually.. :x
wow which company is this, can you give details? might be useful to many users!
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wow which company is this, can you give details? might be useful to many users!
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I prefer to wait until I've got my Jasjar back :wink:
.ox
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cmonex said:
wow which company is this, can you give details? might be useful to many users!
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I prefer to wait until I've got my Jasjar back :wink:
.ox
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OK thanks for the details in advance.
The mirror fault is due to over driving the display unit more than 180 degrees. Flex cable is damaged.
As such I understand they wont cover this in warranty since this is caused by the user twisting the display 380 degrees or even more.
Seen one particular unit which had one (1) cable left out of the whole bundle this flex consist of!
Regards
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The mirror fault is due to over driving the display unit more than 180 degrees. Flex cable is damaged.
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Not in my case it wasn't, I was very careful with the phone (as I have been with the replacement).
As such I understand they wont cover this in warranty since this is caused by the user twisting the display 380 degrees or even more.
Seen one particular unit which had one (1) cable left out of the whole bundle this flex consist of!
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It was covered under warranty in my case as well, T-Mobile replaced it FOC
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oxident said:
cmonex said:
wow which company is this, can you give details? might be useful to many users!
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I prefer to wait until I've got my Jasjar back :wink:
.ox
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OK thanks for the details in advance.
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Okay, now I've got my Jasjar back (about 6 days after I've send it) and it's working great 8)
They've charged me 39 EUR (and 6 EUR for shipping and handling) which sounds really fair to me. Their address is http://www.handy21.de but unfortunately, the site is only german.
.ox
oxident said:
cmonex said:
oxident said:
cmonex said:
wow which company is this, can you give details? might be useful to many users!
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I prefer to wait until I've got my Jasjar back :wink:
.ox
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OK thanks for the details in advance.
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Okay, now I've got my Jasjar back (about 6 days after I've send it) and it's working great 8)
They've charged me 39 EUR (and 6 EUR for shipping and handling) which sounds really fair to me. Their address is http://www.handy21.de but unfortunately, the site is only german.
.ox
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WOW!!!!
Yes, it's true. My precious was run over by a car last night. I left it on the roof of my car
It was pretty well destroyed but the battery, SIM, mem card and stylus are all still ok. The stylus and mem card were still in it after being run over twice! HAH.
Spilt milk - new phone time. I can't justify getting a black one because of the ongoing coating issue. They are still shipping junk. HTC recently replaced my bezel and the new one peeled within 2 weeks. Question: white Trinity or alternative? Can anyone suggest a better device? I don't need GPS, BT or Wifi. HSDPA is a must and I won't buy Eten.
Any info would be great to get me started on my search. Also, I am in Chicago for business but I have a couple of afternoons to kill. Does anyone stock phones there?
Get the white one!
It's still the best PDA-phone around (if no H/W keyboard needed)
Anyone have any stories where their trinity beats the car? Heard of a legend once of an unbreakable pre-production trinity where the dude ran it over and it still worked flawlessly. Anyway sorry to hear about your trinity guess it isn't the chosen one.
http://hijackapp.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/hahashow.jpeg
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So much for an stupid link!
Nobody told you time is money?
Please don't waste mine!
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So much for an stupid link!
Nobody told you time is money?
Please don't waste mine!
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so when are you going to have the surgery done to get that stick out of your ass?
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so when are you going to have the surgery done to get that stick out of your ass?
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Why your'e not in the Paris Hilton blog instead of a savvy, polite and technically interesting forum as this one?
Never mind, I already know the answer... no signature, no references... closed thread.
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Why your'e not in the Paris Hilton blog instead of a savvy, polite and technically interesting forum as this one?
Never mind, I already know the answer... no signature, no references... closed thread.
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Oh was that a shot at me being stupid? I was being polite until you came along and left your little comment.
I didn't know I needed a signature and references to post on forums or otherwise be creditable. *roll eyes*
Anyway Baxter, it's really a shame to hear about your phone. When you get back home you've got to take pictures and post them if you still have the phone and have not thrown it away yet. (Yes Looking Glass, that's what the picture was implying, to post pictures. Stop being such a negitive Nancy, a man just ran over his 500 dollar phone.)
Don't know about the trinity but I ran over my mio A701 (fell out of my pocket outside mates house and I didn't realize). Smashed the screen and put a few kinks in the casing but it still rang ( mates neighbour picked it up after I'd been ringing it for 10 mins or so). Replaced lcd and its working fine but will be changing to a trinity or a eten x800 end of July when contract expires.
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Don't know about the trinity but I ran over my mio A701 (fell out of my pocket outside mates house and I didn't realize). Smashed the screen and put a few kinks in the casing but it still rang ( mates neighbour picked it up after I'd been ringing it for 10 mins or so). Replaced lcd and its working fine but will be changing to a trinity or a eten x800 end of July when contract expires.
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Nice choice.
I'm using my Torq P120 (Eten M600) for now. Maybe they have improved the build quality but their customer service is non-existent. I posted my experience on Eten Users forum last year. People are contacting me to figure out how I was able to get service from them. Evidently just getting a response is difficult now.
I think it's time for a white Trinity. Anyone know what ROM is shipping now? When they service my black one, they shipped it back with the original ROM. Is there a particular brand to look for in the US? My last one was HTC branded.
Heh. Had some time to revive my trinity. It works! Well, a little. It booted and I was able to sync & browse via PC. I couldn't get the phone to work. Atleast I can get all of my data & backup one last time.
Screen is toast
Camera glass is broken
Phone doesn't work
Probably not worth the repair even though it would make a good backup device.
Finally remembered...
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u305/Krash7172/Misc/deadtrinity.jpg
It makes a nice charger for my backup battery!!
Hello everyone
this is my maiden voyage into this forum having lurked for a while since i got my HD2...
Please stick with me,
I have uncovered some grossly outrageous prices from 2 of the leading hd2 repair teams on the internet in the U.K.......
read on .....
well,
The day i decide to step foot into primark, i drop my hd2 and it drops less than a meter from my hand and catches the corners and shatters the glass screen....
after a slightly delirious 20 minutes of laughing i tried to use my phone.
unbelievably it worked absolutely fine! albeit with cracked glass and fine shards of glass sticking into my fingers....
so i immediately set about trying to find out where i could get it fixed online.
The first stop was TurnOnYourMobile.co.uk who quoted me just over £200 to have the screen replaced. They offered a "We'll beat the Price of our competitors" thing, and so i looked elsewhere .
Hence, next stop, Undercutter.co.uk...
According to the very difficult to use website, it would cost me £85! bargain i thought...
so i went back to TOYM to see if they could do a price match?
the answer was no....
oddly, it seemed that Mark at TOYM used to do the repairs for Undercutter and believed that Simon at Undercutter was confusing the Touch HD with the HD2 and that his quote was incorrect.
Back to Undercutter and when i emailed directly to Simon i was quoted £115 plus £8.50! still less than TOYM but a little bit more than undercutters own website stated! not a good sign!
So i did my own survey of prices of the HTC HD2 screen Glass Screen Digitizer.....
to find that the screen alone ranges from £23.50:gultek.eu/htc-hd2-digitizer.html
to £44.95 mobilefun.co.uk/htc-hd2-replacement-lcd-p23948.htm
I emailed Simon at Undercutter about this!
The fact that the screens were available for Under £50 and yet he was charging nearly £70 on top of that to spend less than 20 minutes replacing the screen..... a Whopping rate of nearly £70 an hour for the repair....
Absolutely extortionate.....
after sending my findings to Simon he sent me an email back saying
"We are not going to justify our repair prices and service further, but if you would like to use our services, please let us know."
so my advice to anyone getting a screen repair is, unless you can afford the extortionate prices, see if you can get it repaired on your insurance, and if that takes too long, try and fix it yourself.....
After my findings, I am tempted to buy a screen and repair it myself.....
But i need your advice.... Is the anyone out there who can fix my phone for a lot cheaper and at a resonable rate???
and If i am to repair it myself, Any tips or instructions on hopw to do it???
Many MAny thanks to you
and thank you for reading.
Darren
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please someone... please say something..... come out from the shadows... have a view....
Darren
i think its ok for ppl to ask that much money for it from what i have seen its verry difficult to do.
you have to think for yourself. if you do it yourself and you destroy your phone. what will it cost you? is that risk really worth saving a relative small amount of money?
in my opinion its not.
Hello
I had my screen replaced by HTC in the UK and they charged me £79 +VAT so I would say your being well ripped off mate.
Marshall1975, who did you get yours fixed by? and did they replace it with the glass screen as opposed to a platic alternative i've been hearing about? and was it just the glass that was replaced or the LCD digitizer too?
I have a feeling it's just my glass that needs replacing not the bit underneath it.
jamieeeee, I don't think it's reasonable for people to make that much money out of customers at all, just my view but to make such a big profit out of one customer is shocking.
The reason i've posted my findings is to highlight the nature of people preying on a niche market such as us. HD2 is still fairly uncommon and these companies are making a killing bacause we are a niche market... i think it's dispicable...
Marshall, I haven't got mine fixed yet;. i'm doing my research good and proper first before i go for it....
Thank you so much
Darren
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to find that the screen alone ranges from £23.50:gultek.eu/htc-hd2-digitizer.html
Darren
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that is just the plastic digitizer that reads your finger, not the glass.
also, the second link is for the lcd screen not necessarily the glass. (I think im correct in saying it is a three piecesetup, lcd - glass -digitize ((or lcd digitizer glass))
Thanks for the Info SamSamuel...
so can i assume then, that as it's just the glass that is broken that , that is all i need to replace?
My phone still works brilliantly and no touch problems at all other than tiny bits of glass...
does anyone know How crucial it is after a drop to replace the whole lot? as SamSamuel suggested, the 3 parts that make up the screen?
Simon from UnderCutter didn't appear to say that the screens i listed were incorrect? who knows. Does anyone here have more detailed information to what is on there on the market.
Surely these screens must be Official as they are HTC branded?
below another os Simons gems in repsonse to my findings of screens at a lower price.....
If you have the skills to replace the screen yourself then please have a go at buying and fitting. Some cheaper parts don’t work or last very long, so there are cheaper ones out there but don’t hold your breath for a great product.
Also Just wondered if anyone knew of the whereabouts of the video tutorial on how to replace the screen???
and £79 wow, i can't beat that, Where did you get it done Marshall?
darren
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Also Just wondered if anyone knew of the whereabouts of the video tutorial on how to replace the screen???
and £79 wow, i can't beat that, Where did you get it done Marshall?
darren
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the videos are here
but its verry hard to seperate those 2 things..
hmmmm taking the whole of the screen looks fairly simple in the video! but i'm sure there has to be more to it because of all the separate components that make up the screen....
still wiatin got hear from Marshall1975 to see where he got his done.....
Have you contacted your network to see how much they can do the repair for?
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hmmmm taking the whole of the screen looks fairly simple in the video! but i'm sure there has to be more to it because of all the separate components that make up the screen....
still wiatin got hear from Marshall1975 to see where he got his done.....
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I believe he stated in his post it was directly with HTC in the UK.
Why not plump for HTC. Save the hassle of DIY and its cheaper than the other quotes you have?
When its all fixed, work out how much insurance would cost per year balanced against dropping it, smashing it and repeating the whole process again......
Aha
must've not seen that through my cracked screen!
I have contacted HTC to eagerly await their response which i will post here!
Darren
kbm said:
Why not plump for HTC. Save the hassle of DIY and its cheaper than the other quotes you have?
When its all fixed, work out how much insurance would cost per year balanced against dropping it, smashing it and repeating the whole process again......
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Oh I am SERIously getting insurance after this!
I also asked HTC about extending the Warranty.... will wait to hear back...
Darren
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Hello all,
Lately I have been facing a lot of issues related to Defy Access.
Almost no one has any access for Defy here in Delhi. Looked online and only Amzer is providing the silicon cover and I ordered one too. But it's not at all good and looks very cheap.
Also I did mistake by ordering Mirror finish screen protector and the visiblity in open area has taken a hit. so will be changing it now.
Also I noticed, the light sensor is functioning very wierd. If i call or get a call, the screen turns black and to bring back the display I have to pull the screen guard near the screen protector. The same is happening with another person and he is using normal screen protector.
Any idea and options for better accessories in India or New Delhi??
Flipkart has the Anti glare screen protector from Amzer for 120 bucks.!!!
mine just got delivered today...... its ok ..... feels a bit rough...but a bit of the glare is reduced..... touch however feels even better than before especially while playing nova.
also, try Fommy.co.in ... they have all the accessories you night need including car docks.
Its good to go for Flipkart, they are quite trusted. But I opted for a local store for the screen protector!
Bangalore
hey guys!
do you have any idea where i can pick up a white back panel (battery door) in bangalore or if i can place an order online?
if you guys have any idea please tell me!
and is it just me or does EVERY one around me think that the defy is a bad phone!
i feel like pasting those shop keepers when they tell me "is product ke liye kuch nahin milega sir! "
oh and also do any of you have the link to the froyo update???
i didnt make a back up and now i dont seem to be finding it!
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and is it just me or does EVERY one around me think that the defy is a bad phone!
i feel like pasting those shop keepers when they tell me "is product ke liye kuch nahin milega sir! "
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I agree that Motorola is not so popular in India like Nokia or Samsung and getting accessories for it is a nightmare in showrooms.
But I completely disagree with you saying its a bad phone. Its the best phone in this price range and compared to other mobiles, its powerful too. I Love my defy
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I agree that Motorola is not so popular in India like Nokia or Samsung and getting accessories for it is a nightmare in showrooms.
But I completely disagree with you saying its a bad phone. Its the best phone in this price range and compared to other mobiles, its powerful too. I Love my defy
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Exactly. Defy is far superior then other phones in this price bracket.
But finding accessories is such a pain. Have been to multiple shops, Online sites such as Flipkart etc but no use.
Almost all other phones have amazing back panels and covers available but not Defy.
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hey guys!
do you have any idea where i can pick up a white back panel (battery door) in bangalore or if i can place an order online?
if you guys have any idea please tell me!
and is it just me or does EVERY one around me think that the defy is a bad phone!
i feel like pasting those shop keepers when they tell me "is product ke liye kuch nahin milega sir! "
oh and also do any of you have the link to the froyo update???
i didnt make a back up and now i dont seem to be finding it!
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defy is a superb phone dude best for rough and tough use, btw did u check ebay.in & here u can check this post for froyo rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093352