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Bootloop, SBF issue >please help

I accidentaly installed the CM9 kernel when i should have installed the CM7 one with ICS. Then i made a nandroid restore of my previous CM7. Than... phone dead. Starting but no CWM no ROM booting.
As i have had CM7 with GB kernel( i think) i flashed ( not knowing) an old SBF than didn't booted. I tried the JORDN_U3_97.21.51 T-Mobile It boots, i can root it, install CWM.
But than when i try to install a CM7 nightly ( installed ok) it dies again. Starts but No CWM no Rom booting.
What to do? I don't know what SBF to flash or what method to install?
Problem update I red that the above SBF has a CG Version 3: SBF 2.51 (Éclair) (Defy) so i installed several CG Version 4: SBF 3.4.2 (Froyo) (Defy).
They don't work. RSD says PASS but phone is dead .No stock recovery no boot. Only way to get it back to life is if i flash the eclair again.
I red that if i get a back screen when booting i have installed a lower CG version. As i tested with version 4, version 5 GB is the only option. I didn't try it out because there are some issues. Froyo would have been much more easier.

i think many readers of your post are getting problems with understanding your problem ...
you got a stock defy, rooted it, installed 2ndinit via apk, booted into recovery (vol- at blue led) and installed CM7 zip ??? correct ???
after succesfull install of CM7 your phone doesn't turn on? Black screen?
black screen after zip is (i think) impossible ... but i can fail ...
i would like to help you, but first you have to give the detailed steps you did and what you wanted to do ...

To make it simplier
I installed the JORDN_U3_97.21.51 T-Mobile (which is 2.1 update1) It boots, i can root it, install 2nd-init > CWM. Set Normal boot.
Than in CWM nothing works.
Installing a CM7 nightly, or restoring a CWM backup.
I install a CM7 nightly like this> In CWM> Custom Recovery> Wipe data, wipe cache> install Cm7 zip, install Gaaps zip. After this, phone restarts, screen is on, logo appears and i wait and wait. Nothing happens.
Do i have to install a special CM7 build?
The CWM backup does not restore. It says that files are missing ( like android.secure..) I am not interested in keeping downgrade ability. i would like to try another SBF. I am not 100% sure what SBF to use from the wiki page.
I red that the SBF i installed has some special "problems" here> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905371. They are talking of a CWM revoery app by tenfair here> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875233
Maybe that works^. Will try it after the phone is fully charged.

so, ok ... thats detailed as i wish
ok, the problem is clear i think ... first of all eclair is not a nice system for a defy ... upgrade to froyo or even gingerbread ... (keep in mind, that GB has problems with green lens camera) ...
than you can root it with SuperOneClick e.g. ... if this is running correctly, you can install 2ndinit via apk ... then boot, vol- while blue led (i know, you know how ) ... in that clockworkmod recovery you can wipe the devices data and cache partition (even wipe dalvik cache in advanced menu) ... then install CM7.2-nightly-.... .zip ... you may have to flash an fixed sbf with the nessesary kernel for CM7 at this point to boot ...
if this is working fine, you can install the gapps.zip via recovery ...
also try to set boot to 2ndinit in boot-menu ... i don't think it's "normal" boot for CM7 ... but i can't try at the moment cause of my bricked defy ...

Thanks for the reply.
The problem is that i can't install other Froyo SBF's. Will try Gingerbread SBF. The last froyo didn't boot, will try a new one. Weird, i know. Maybe someone can tell me which CM7 to flash? An older one with Kernel ? I didn't think the install would be so tricky.

Froyo Full-SBF doesn't boot on your defy?
be aware of flashing Gingerbread then ... if GB doesn't boot, you will have a problem downgrading to froyo / eclair ...
it sonds crazy, that froyo isn't booting on your device ... have you done a full wipe after froyo sbf? it's important ...

I'm on the Eclair SBF right now. What should i do? Go into recovery and do a wipe or install a new Froyo SBF? It's about the CG value maybe. I understand the mechanism but don't know how to check the CG value. If i search for my current eclair SBF i get all sorts of weird stuff. Nevertheless i will try and try until i succeed. It took me a while to figure out the Rooting method. Superoneclick does not work. It's a special method for the 2.51.
The thing is that i wanted to go the my Nordic SBF( the one Quarx used during the first days of CM7) and it didn't booted. That's why i tried this one. Funny ho flashing the wrong kernel(CM9 instead of CM7) can brake things like this. What i don't understand is how my CWM backup didn't restore. It restored well, finished, then phone dead. No CWM.
edit: i just red: 2.51 is Not downgradable. But no downgrade to what??? Will try to some Froyo SBF's, see if works. But that does not solve my CM7 issues.

Tried a few Froyo SBF's. Wiped data/cache in Stock Recovery. RSD says PASS than phone does not boot. Only the 21.51 eclair works all the time.....Where next?
Update 2 got it to work with this>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731&highlight=cg

OMG i dn't understand what was going on with your defy, but i'm happy to know your on the road again
the only sbf that are running are the stock eclair you have (21.51) and the modded BL6 with Froyo Kernel ???

Glad it worked.
DJ_Synergy said:
OMG i dn't understand what was going on with your defy, but i'm happy to know your on the road again
the only sbf that are running are the stock eclair you have (21.51) and the modded BL6 with Froyo Kernel ???
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Yes but now i am running CM9 flawlessly. So happy. The only thing that bothers me is the Chinese Boot screen )). But that can be changed. It's great that one SBF works, moded or not. I tried like 6,7 other Stock sbf's before. So a message to whom tries to install SBF's: Stay away from JORDN_U3_97.21.51 SBF. Even the Rooting method is awful (until you find it) .

HI Deonix, I have the similar problem. However I am unable to use RSDlite as it gives a failure messg when u click start. I tried JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-36-1.7.sbf and JRDNEM_U3_2.59.0_CHN_P3_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B50AA028.0R_USAJORDANRTINT15_P003_A020_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.
Both failed, I will try using the rsdlite after the cache and factory rest this time based on your suggestions. Can you tell, if your adb command was listing your device, as mine is not.
my CWM is also gone I get some old android recovery system 3e instead which fails after signature check.

Hi,
I think I know what is your problem.
I also installed the firmware JORDN_U3_97.21.51 and now I can only install any Custom ROM after installing the firmware fix for JORDN_U3_97.21.51.
I did upload it for you: http://www.4shared.com/rar/o02VEk_v/firmware.html?refurl=d1url
It is the following:
Install JORDN_U3_97.21.51;
Rootear;
Install the Recovery;
Install the fix;
enter the recovery and install any rom you want, remembering to delete the caches (data and Dalvik cache)
ps: have 100% of the battery before installing the SBF.
any problems let me know.

Sometimes you could get stuck in a bootloop and all you need to do is pull battery and reboot
Sent from my MB525 using xda premium

Same Problem, Please help!
Deonix said:
Yes but now i am running CM9 flawlessly. So happy. The only thing that bothers me is the Chinese Boot screen )). But that can be changed. It's great that one SBF works, moded or not. I tried like 6,7 other Stock sbf's before. So a message to whom tries to install SBF's: Stay away from JORDN_U3_97.21.51 SBF. Even the Rooting method is awful (until you find it) .
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Hey bro.
Even i have got the Defy working, but its not detecting the device when connected to the computer, i have done all the basic troubleshooting, is it working for you??
is it bcoz this room is for ME525??

[Q] Help with Defy (green lens) and custom ROMS

I am currently on a stock Android 2.1-update1 TMobile US ROM on my Defy (green lens) ROM. I would like to try out CyanogenMod 7.1 (or 7.2 RC) and need help confirming my understanding of the process. I am already rooted and have installed the GoAPK recovery.
1. I need to flash my kernel to froyo to 2.2. In order to be able to downgrade back to 2.1 I need to use a "fixed" sbf. If I run the smgver.exe utility on the sbf file and it says "no version found" than this is a safe sbf to flash (can still downgrade).
2. Before I flash this new kernel I need to (should) do a full nandroid backup of my current rom so I can restore it if things go wrong. I might need to install SuperOneClickFor2.x to do the backup and future recoveries.
3. Once I flash one of these "fixed" sbf I can then do the "update.zip" process to flash CM7 onto my defy. I will need to do a factory reset and wipe the data/cache partitions. This will cause me to lose my contacts/calendar/etc AND my installed applications (and their data, so I need to back them up using something like TitaniumBackup).
4. Once I've got CM7 (with froyo kernel) I can flash one of the CM9 builds for the defy green lens that is built specifically for the froyo kernel
I've searched and read as much as I can, I feel like I "got it" but I just wanted a little confirmation before I start hacking this phone apart =)
Thanks for any help you can give me =)

Here is the explanation from all that I know:
1. I need to flash my kernel to froyo to 2.2. In order to be able to downgrade back to 2.1 I need to use a "fixed" sbf. If I run the smgver.exe utility on the sbf file and it says "no version found" than this is a safe sbf to flash (can still downgrade). Ya, that is true. But after flashing fixed SBF you also need Nandroid backup to be restored.(This is not your nandroid backup. Its the nandroid backup supplied with the fixed sbf)
2. Before I flash this new kernel I need to (should) do a full nandroid backup of my current rom so I can restore it if things go wrong. I might need to install SuperOneClickFor2.x to do the backup and future recoveries.
Yes Nandroid backup is always recommended. Superoneclick is a software needed to root your phone. That answers the rest.
3. Once I flash one of these "fixed" sbf I can then do the "update.zip" process to flash CM7 onto my defy. I will need to do a factory reset and wipe the data/cache partitions. This will cause me to lose my contacts/calendar/etc AND my installed applications (and their data, so I need to back them up using something like TitaniumBackup).
Yes, however its not update.zip but its <ROM NAME>.zip Your contacts,calender can be backed up in your google account and if you use gapps(google apps. Needs to be installed separately by install .zip in CM) in your CM those will come again. Your installed apps and data yes can be restored from TB. You can backup SMS using SMS backup+
4. Once I've got CM7 (with froyo kernel) I can flash one of the CM9 builds for the defy green lens that is built specifically for the froyo kernel
Yes either that or you can even directly flash CM9 for Froyo kernel.
Hope that helps...

[Q]bootloader screen and SBF

Well, i just tried to install MIUI on my defy+ 2.3.5 and it's stuck on the bootloader screen with white text.
I have a question regarding SFB, never flashed them before. Which one can i flash so i can restore my phone with my old nandroid backup? read somewhere that the new sfb from motorola change the kernel and you can't downgrade so id rather ask before digging a bigger hole.

densets said:
Well, i just tried to install MIUI on my defy+ 2.3.5 and it's stuck on the bootloader screen with white text.
I have a question regarding SFB, never flashed them before. Which one can i flash so i can restore my phone with my old nandroid backup? read somewhere that the new sfb from motorola change the kernel and you can't downgrade so id rather ask before digging a bigger hole.
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If you wat to install MIUI on your defy+ ( like me ), u need to flash the SBF in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731
After that u can root via Super one click and install 2nd int, then install miui easily.
If you want to switch back to old defy plus, you just need to flash a SBF with boot loader 6 ( bl6 ).
Note : don't flash SBF with Bl7, u cant root it, means u can do nothing custom to your Defy+

You should root your phone and install CWM and go with nandroid backup of your rom and install desired rom via CWM to keep downgrade ability for safe side.

binhtop said:
If you wat to install MIUI on your defy+ ( like me ), u need to flash the SBF in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731
After that u can root via Super one click and install 2nd int, then install miui easily.
If you want to switch back to old defy plus, you just need to flash a SBF with boot loader 6 ( bl6 ).
Note : don't flash SBF with Bl7, u cant root it, means u can do nothing custom to your Defy+
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I have a defy plus and I flashed it with the following full sbf: "4.5.1-134-DFP-1321 - retail-asia full Blur multilanguage". Everything works well.
Also remember to wipe data,cache after flashing sbf.
Here is how you do it:
1. After flashing completes shutdown phone.
2. Enter bootloader by pressing VOLUP key and simultaneously power button.
3. Then press both VOLUP and VOLDOWN
4. Wipe data/ factory reset.
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binhtop said:
If you wat to install MIUI on your defy+ ( like me ), u need to flash the SBF in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731
After that u can root via Super one click and install 2nd int, then install miui easily.
If you want to switch back to old defy plus, you just need to flash a SBF with boot loader 6 ( bl6 ).
Note : don't flash SBF with Bl7, u cant root it, means u can do nothing custom to your Defy+
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What kind of message do you get?
Something like bootloader v9.10 ...

Yes, every defy+ has 9.10 boot loader, that's bl6 any way

Guys,
I'm facing the same problem.
Defy+ running 2.3.5 and everytime I try to install MIUI (STABLE or ICS BETA) I got stuck in motorola bootloader.
I've already installed the CM9 and everything worked just fine, but with MIUI i'm having this problem.
I flashed a stock rom again, installed 2ndinit 1.4, 2.0, 2.3.
Tried wipe data, cache, dalvik cache and so on.
Does anyone know what I should do to solve this?
Best regards.

[Q] Downgrade to stock Froyo from CM

Dear All,
I am currently running Defy with stock FROYO and thinking of installing CM7.2.
My question: Will I be able to downgrade back to stock FROYO if I want to?
Hady

sure c8
go to clockworkmod recovery -- advanced -- backup -- backup all, so when you want to go back just retore the backup or.. you can download a froyo sbf and flash it via rsd lite, and then you got it , have froyo again in your defy

[Q] Motorola Defy+: Return phone to factory state

Hi,
I have Defy+ running quarx's CM10 android 4.1.2.
What I want is to recover my phone as it was, with official gingerbread and no 2nd init or other software installed on it.
Is there any way to do that?
If yes I would appreciate some help with it.
Thanks!

That's quite easy, isn't it? Simply download one of the offical bilds (sbf files), copy it (i mean if needed thing you need for flash like safe wipe) on sd card, wipe everything, boot into stock recovery (well i believe dl-mode) and flash official rom.

I was thinking about doing that and thanks for confirming it. What I am not sure about is if everything else installed that does not run in android, like 2nd init and other stuff lets call them , pre os, get deleted and only the stock firmware will be left. I will do this though and we will see how it goes.
Now do any of you helpful people have an sbf for Europe without blur UI in it?
A link would be helpful if so.
Thanks again!

Sbf cannot be flashed from sdcard! It must be done thru RSDLite. 2ndinit, etc will get wiped. If stuck in a boot loop after flashing, wipe data after stock recovery
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Quite simple. Wipe Data / Cache first via Stock Motorola Recovery. Flash SBF for your region. Voila! your phone is all stock again.
If you want a good De-Blur ROM try WIUI or if you still dont want the customizations move to MS2Ginger ->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140839