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I know this issue has been posted in forums for other devices, but I haven't seen anything about it for NC. I did try to search the NC forums but couldn't find anything that seemed to address this problem.
I am using MIUI 1.7.22. I have noticed significant battery drain due to Android OS (in battery stats), suspend (in the systempanel app), and event/o (also in systempanel). I have disabled auto-sync and any apps that appear to be likely culprits (those that might attempt to download data). This problem seems to appear with wifi on or off, and when on, I have tried both setting it to never turn off and to turn off when the screen is off. Initially I was experiencing battery drain due to cell standby, which I took care of by disabling the telephony provider, phone, and mms apks. I know many don't believe this has an effect, but I did it anyway. The cell standby drain is gone, but now I'm fighting the drain due to these other factors. Has anyone found a fix for this?
After scouting around for info, I have tried some suggestions seen elsewhere: rebooting and wiping dalvik cache. So far today I haven't had any Android OS, etc. issues. Standby life with screen off is as it should be (for now and hopefully forever)--very slow battery drain.
This is with wifi set to never shut off, which I prefer.
Suspend etc. came back last night although not as extreme as before. Hopefully some other folks will have things to add to this thread. I will continue posting progress info as I learn more about this.
From the code.google.com forums:
Confirm heavy battery drain with enabled Location & Security -> Use wireless networks / Use GPS satellites. I've disable both options and now my battery life is normal.
With enabled "Location & Security" options battery eaten by "Android OS" process (about 40-55%).
I will try this and report back.
Disabling WIFI and GPS in location/security had no effect. There appears to be a google process that prevents the system from sleeping.
I was still experiencing random battery drain due to Android OS, suspend, event/0 after switching to cm7. One suggestion I read was to disable calendar sync, as this appears to be a runaway process that attempts to connect to the server constantly without allowing the device to sleep. Doing this allowed me to get through the night with very little drain and the Android OS, etc. processes were finally behaving (within normal limits).
I'm not sure if anyone is reading this thread but I will continue to update until I figure out the solution, as I imagine this problem will become more noticeable to others who are equally frustrated with this issue.
Having same problems on my galaxy s2. Lots of people have this problem and think it's a problem with the os. What os version are you using?
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Having same problems on my galaxy s2. Lots of people have this problem and think it's a problem with the os. What os version are you using?
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Right now I'm using cm7 (2.3.5) but I was using MIUI before. Turning off calendar sync has worked well so far.
I had bad battery drain in the past and no deep sleep. but what worked for me was not to use any live wall paper. this fixed my deep sleep issues. for the battery drain, re-set your battery stats and re boot a couple of times for the stats to settle down. also check google map and latitude. in latitude just log out. un-checking sync in my yahoo email app also helped with my battery drain. my wifi is set at, off with screen. I went from 20 -30% drain in 7hrs to now 1-3% in 7hrs
I hope any of this info can help
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Thank you, boxcar. I had tried all of those things (froze live wallpaper, reset battery stats, reboot, froze maps and latitude) but the only thing that worked for me was unchecking the box for calendar sync. Email sync and wifi appear to be non-issues--no difference between off or on. Evidently this google calendar sync bug is a known issue (that very few people seem to know about!). I hope google will fix this soon.
I also have same problem on my Galaxy S2. These two(events/0, suspend) drain many battery, 14% one night, without WIFI, GPS, Bluetooth.
I'll keep on tracing this issue, and share the result in this thread.
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I also have same problem on my Galaxy S2. These two(events/0, suspend) drain many battery, 14% one night, without WIFI, GPS, Bluetooth.
I'll keep on tracing this issue, and share the result in this thread.
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Turning off autosync seems to help the most (although setting WIFI to turn off when the screen turns off appears to help, as well). I tried using an autosync toggle but just turning it on at all seemed to result in a gradual creeping up of the Android OS, etc. problems. Manual sync of calendar and perhaps gmail and contacts seems to be the way to go. For some reason, exchange mail set to push results in no problems. The other trick I've found is to go to applications, then calendar and calendar storage, and force stop, delete cache, and THEN manual sync of calendar (reboot, recovery, wipe dalvik, fix permissions are good ideas, too). When I flash nightlies, I go through this process and the offending processes work as they should. If I don't, problems appear sooner or later.
I've had my nook on for 9 hours now, WIFI on (off with screen off) and 30 minutes of display on time. I've lost 9%, so I think I'm on the right track. This is how it should work, I.think. Of course, the results SHOULD be the same with autosync on, but manual sync for good battery life is an acceptable small tradeoff in my opinion.
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I've had my nook on for 9 hours now, WIFI on (off with screen off) and 30 minutes of display on time. I've lost 9%, so I think I'm on the right track. This is how it should work, I.think. Of course, the results SHOULD be the same with autosync on, but manual sync for good battery life is an acceptable small tradeoff in my opinion.
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For the noobs in the audience, how exactly does one turn off autosync? Where is it located?
Thanks in advance.
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For the noobs in the audience, how exactly does one turn off autosync? Where is it located?
Thanks in advance.
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Menu, settings, accounts and sync (I leave background data checked).
I found part of the root cause, maybe some old application - can work on new version, but drain many battery. Today I uninstalled the 'Android photo widget', then only 1% battery has been drained within 2 hours when standby. Not totally solved the issue, but seems OK.
I guess you can also try this, find another 'bad' application which drains your battery.
Well guys, I'm not sure if I'm the last Nook Color user to continue fighting with this super annoying headache (I know SGS2 users are, too), but I think I'm on to something. I thought calendar sync was the culprit (and perhaps it was), but the Android OS drain (featuring nemeses suspend and event/0) would not go away and the arrival of this problem continued to be (apparently) random. I had an idea that, if the calendar sync kept alternating between suspend and event/0, perhaps this was due to old events that caused the sync process to continue longer than it would normally. So, based on this idea and logic, I changed my exchange e-mail account settings to sync email from the last month rather than to sync all mail. Looking at my work e-mail history, I realized I had e-mails in various folders and sent mail from as far back as 2001! Although it's nice to be able to access all e-mail history, perhaps the polling services were constantly monitoring the activity of super old emails and folders, which caused the suspend and event/0 processes to flip out. I don't know if this is the way Android actually works but it seemed logical to me. Well, for the last 24 hours, I have intermittently checked my cpu activity through systempanel, and what do you know, when the device is not being used, suspend and event/0 work as they are supposed to and Android OS stays low in the battery % list. PLEASE let this be the fix! I know there are other factors that contribute to the acting out of these processes, but on a stripped down device with no autosync or widgets and no out of control services identified in systempanel or watchdog, there can't be many other explanations. I'm curious if others with this problem have similar settings on their email accounts. In all the forums on different sites (and I've read a ton of them), I've never seen anything like this mentioned.
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...c=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars&id=16721
Please vote there, and, may be, Google will fix it.
For those still following this thread, here's a tip. Use Gemini app manager (in the market). This has been one of the best tools I've found for managing wakelock issues and battery drain during standby. It allows you to identify apps that start up on their own (more than you think) and prevent them from starting randomly. In my experience this has been a huge cause of the standby drain problem showing up as Android OS, suspend, and event/0 in battery monitors. I'm currently sitting on 81% battery remaining with over 1 hour of screen time after 21 hours since my last charge. I know it's not a lot of usage but it's the standby time that's fantastic.
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I had bad battery drain in the past and no deep sleep. but what worked for me was not to use any live wall paper. this fixed my deep sleep issues. for the battery drain, re-set your battery stats and re boot a couple of times for the stats to settle down. also check google map and latitude. in latitude just log out. un-checking sync in my yahoo email app also helped with my battery drain. my wifi is set at, off with screen. I went from 20 -30% drain in 7hrs to now 1-3% in 7hrs
I hope any of this info can help
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I've a Galaxy S2. Tried everything, except disable autosync. Was losing 30-40% battery at night. So far since turning off google sync I'm getting about <1% battery use an hour. Will see if it continues. Thanks.
Hi all,
Having just bought a Yotaphone 2, latest model 801 processor and with Lollipop installed, I was impressed with it... lovely screen, sharp response, great display on the back ....until I realised that battery life on the EPD or indeed doing nothing was (and is) terrible.
This somewhat negates the point of having the EPD. Because whether you use the EPD or not, as others have found, the processor seems to be spending 100% of the time doing something like trying to connect to Google headquarters to report my unethical swearwords as I look at the battery level heading south.
To try and make sure the phone was using the least power, I went through all the running apps and services and terminated as many as I could, turned off things like Yotafit tracking, turned off the service that sends all your contact details to the Kremlin, and so on... then, I turned on the Yotaenergy mode and despite that, we are at less than 24 hours with virtually no phone usage at all. Fully 50% of all the energy according to the battery stats is being used by Android System and Android OS processes when the system is in standby. And the historic battery screenshot shows that the processor is active 100% of the time., even though the phone has not been touched. (sorry, not attached, I'll post at some point, but its not very interesting)
So, does anyone have any clues about how this can be fixed? I have seen screenshots where people have shown that their processors are not active the whole time, and I imagine they have Lollipop? I have heard Lollipop has got some kind of bug which means that data connections are live the whole time, not sure if this is related.
(This might explain the sudden appearance of half price devices on eBay around six months after launch in the UK.)
Many thanks in advance!
YotaDevices has acknowledged the problems on Lollipop battery life, which is the reason they won't be shipping devices coming to USA preinstalled with Lollipop, but with KitKat. Now that I've played around with the EPD and created some widgets/applications for it, I can spot many places where things can go wrong in maintaining battery life and still keep things working.
Personally I've been lucky with the battery life on all versions of Android. When I updated to the last version of Lollipop (firmware 1.44), the phone did show poor battery life for hours after the installation was finished, before calming down to the promised 5 days stand by. Are you on the very last firmware? (Settings - about phone - build number)
As a last resort if your device won't settle down, I guess you could roll back to Kitkat, which had a very good battery life for pretty much everyone. You can install it with Yota's flasher tool: ftp://fw.ydevices.com/YotaPhone2/YotaPhoneFlasher/yotaphone2_flasher.exe
Just carefully select your own region and then the last version of KitKat (4.4.3) they offer. As you are rolling back from one major version to another, I would suggest flashing pretty much everything. You will lose your data.
Yota has said that they are working on bringing Lollipop 5.1 or 5.2 to Yotaphone 2. Let's hope that that works better.
Thanks that was very useful. The question is, will Yota do another build ... or build another device? I'm hoping the Y2 has a bit of life left in it yet and they do launch in the US - it can only help the development community!
I reset back to factory/Lollipop last night as it was eating battery so fast I could not believe it, and I am on the latest build 1.44EU (and was before). Since then.. it doesn't seem to be misbehaving so much, but it does seem to insist that the WIFI is on (when it is switched 'off' in the settings) by 'on' I mean the battery usage recorder... I wil take your advice and 'take it slow' for now, but may flash back to Kitkat if necessary. It is a bit tedious having to reinstall all your apps by hand but this seems to be the only way to ensure it is relatively clean.
The screengrabs below show the phone doing nothing at all in Yotaenergy mode - per first post.
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Thanks that was very useful. The question is, will Yota do another build ... or build another device? I'm hoping the Y2 has a bit of life left in it yet and they do launch in the US - it can only help the development community!
I reset back to factory/Lollipop last night as it was eating battery so fast I could not believe it, and I am on the latest build 1.44EU (and was before). Since then.. it doesn't seem to be misbehaving so much, but it does seem to insist that the WIFI is on (when it is switched 'off' in the settings) by 'on' I mean the battery usage recorder... I wil take your advice and 'take it slow' for now, but may flash back to Kitkat if necessary. It is a bit tedious having to reinstall all your apps by hand but this seems to be the only way to ensure it is relatively clean.
The screengrabs below show the phone doing nothing at all in Yotaenergy mode - per first post.
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I am quite confident that they will release updated Lollipop sooner or later. They don't have the resources to piss off all their customers just yet.
Your Wifi still does some scans on its own for Google's location service, even if it's not enabled. You can disable this feature in the advanced wifi settings. But that is not the cause of your battery problem. Basically your device is awake all the time, meaning something is holding a wake lock. And by something I mean one of Yota's EPD compoments, which are counted as part of "Android OS" and "Android System" - your biggest battery hogs. It could be one of the EPD widgets that is misbehaving, or it could be some specific combination of them, or just something out of your control.
You could try removing ALL the widgets from the rear screen from Yotahub, then restart the device, and then let it run for an hour with the screen off. Then check the detailed battery log if the device went to sleep or if it was awake. If it went to sleep, you can try adding widgets back one at a time, and then check again if the device sleeps. Basically all the widgets which update periodically hold a wake lock momentarily (time, battery, calendar, weather etc). Of course if the problem lies on Yota's EPD framework, then this wont help at all.
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I am quite confident that they will release updated Lollipop sooner or later. They don't have the resources to piss off all their customers just yet.
Your Wifi still does some scans on its own for Google's location service, even if it's not enabled. You can disable this feature in the advanced wifi settings. But that is not the cause of your battery problem. Basically your device is awake all the time, meaning something is holding a wake lock. And by something I mean one of Yota's EPD compoments, which are counted as part of "Android OS" and "Android System" - your biggest battery hogs. It could be one of the EPD widgets that is misbehaving, or it could be some specific combination of them, or just something out of your control.
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Agreed, I suspect the YotaFit app going bonkers despite my efforts to kill it.... or the Yotagram service, the thing is, looking at the Yota specific apps, you don't really need them, as you can flip the screen with the Yotamirror, and then use any Android app. Sure it would be nice to have notifications on the EPD, but my main focus for this phone is use in bright daylight, and long battery life, not to actually look at the thing 24x7 so I can respond to emails every 30 seconds.
At this point though I'm just trying to determine how bad the underlying hardware is. The GPS on this phone seems to a bit flaky, as does the basic reception of mobile signal. (And I'm not using a metal bumper.) So, I'm happy to flash back to KitKat 4.4.3 to try and give it the best chance..
So, any clues/links about the Yota flash tool? I've put the phone into USB debug mode, installed the flash tool on my windows 7 desktop, and installed ADB/Fastboot as well, but at this point I'm having a bit of an android driver problem, and ADB can't see the phone so that probably explains why the Flashtool says 'waiting for device' when I fire it up. I will go digging to fix that, but I assume that the Flashtool will do all the stuff like putting the phone into bootloader mode, unlock etc...
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Agreed, I suspect the YotaFit app going bonkers despite my efforts to kill it.... or the Yotagram service, the thing is, looking at the Yota specific apps, you don't really need them, as you can flip the screen with the Yotamirror, and then use any Android app. Sure it would be nice to have notifications on the EPD, but my main focus for this phone is use in bright daylight, and long battery life, not to actually look at the thing 24x7 so I can respond to emails every 30 seconds.
At this point though I'm just trying to determine how bad the underlying hardware is. The GPS on this phone seems to a bit flaky, as does the basic reception of mobile signal. (And I'm not using a metal bumper.) So, I'm happy to flash back to KitKat 4.4.3 to try and give it the best chance..
So, any clues/links about the Yota flash tool? I've put the phone into USB debug mode, installed the flash tool on my windows 7 desktop, and installed ADB/Fastboot as well, but at this point I'm having a bit of an android driver problem, and ADB can't see the phone so that probably explains why the Flashtool says 'waiting for device' when I fire it up. I will go digging to fix that, but I assume that the Flashtool will do all the stuff like putting the phone into bootloader mode, unlock etc...
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The widgets I'm running at the moment without any problems are Time, Mini Calendar, weather, battery, and communications (the small widget which shows phone calls, notifications and sms). And of course my own widget.
The best way to make sure there are no useless services running is to root the device and uninstall them completely, but that's another story.
For the flashtool to detect the device, you need to boot it into download mode manually. The easiest way is to turn off your device and plug the usb in while holding volume down -button. The screen will show "download" or something in very small white text. After that the flashtool should find the device. You probably don't have to flash the user partition (it asks for it separately), i.e. the simulated sdcard section which holds all your photos, documents and music.
Edit. And when you have kitkat installed, the first thing you might want to do is to disable automatic system updates. Otherwise it will nag you about the Lollipop update all the time.
I've been facing similar issues and am considering a downgrade when I have the time. I'm really disappointed in yota and won't be buying their next device.
I have found this thread useful, you may too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
thanks gents, oddly, the advice to let the phone 'calm down' seems to be working. I decided not to revert to KitKat (yet), as every day I use the phone the battery life seems to improve. Yesterday it was down to 40%, today 60% after about a days use. I'm thinking a week of running in will give it time to stabilize. I would love to root the phone but I want to use the Good app, and that doesn't run on rooted phones... (shame but I guess that's the flipside of working for a big corporate for you!)
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thanks gents, oddly, the advice to let the phone 'calm down' seems to be working. I decided not to revert to KitKat (yet), as every day I use the phone the battery life seems to improve. Yesterday it was down to 40%, today 60% after about a days use. I'm thinking a week of running in will give it time to stabilize. I would love to root the phone but I want to use the Good app, and that doesn't run on rooted phones... (shame but I guess that's the flipside of working for a big corporate for you!)
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Try putting the battery widget on your epd. If it shows 5 days remaining when you are above 85% and you don't use the phone, then the device works as advertised.
That Good app sounds like a real killjoy. There seems to exist some Xposed modules to disable the root check, but they seemed to be rather finicky to setup and very easy to mess up.
I was suffering from terrible battery life after the lollipop upgrade and the EPD battery widget was never showing much above 1d anymore. After much research and tinkering, it has now improved and I am seeing greater than 3d again. I think the culprits were maybe google fit tracking which I have now turned off and I also de-installed and re-installed the google play services updates which is a tip I saw in an android forum. I also over the last two days have received several yota widget updates which may have also helped. At least for now I am seeing a comfortable day's use again!
I experienced poor battery life out of blue again. I went through all the settings, cleared dalvik-cache and cache partition, tried disabling everything, but nothing helped. It only showed <1 day battery life at 100%.
But then I went to mess around in the developer settings, and when I set the animation scales from 1x to 0.25x and enabled "Force GPU rendering", the battery life returned instantly to 5 days.
Just thought I'd add this to the list of things to test out if someone's experiencing poor battery life. The forced GPU rendering might have some unexpected effects on some software rendering based games.
dont know if this will help but just seen some of the new features of android m "marshmallow" one of which is doze and there is a separate app available on play store for this. i have installed and it has helped battery life !!!
I was going through terrible battery life after Lollipop as well. Suffered, tinkered, tried various things. Eventually I just said screw it, backed everything up and factory reset it from recovery. Since then it seems like it's almost back to it's old self. Obviously having root and using some kernel control apps, greenify and some other things helps it but It will happily do at least a couple of days with little-normal usage. Still don't think it's as good as KitKat but it's not too far off. The EPD really does help spread battery out too.
I did the same thing but a 3 weeks on, the battery is as shocking as ever.
Today, on battery since 0730, now @ 1115 51% and 3hrs left!??
No obvious apps causing battery drain, just google services!
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I did the same thing but a 3 weeks on, the battery is as shocking as ever.
Today, on battery since 0730, now @ 1115 51% and 3hrs left!??
No obvious apps causing battery drain, just google services!
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I have had the phone nearly a week, and these are similar figures I experience. What's the point of the epd if my battery dies by lunch!
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I think it is something with Android 5.0 that is causing the drain issues. I can go anywhere from half a day to a week with good batteyr life and then it will randomly start draining again. Some background activity seems to hold a permanent wakelock and will not let go of it. I am unable to pinpoint what app is creating the wakelock with better battery stats or wakelock detector since there isn't access to kernel wakelocks in either of the apps for our phone. A restart always fixes things though, so I have a tasker script now that lets me know when idle battery drain exceeds a threshold for too long so I know to do a restart, it's not elegant, but my battery life is exponentially better and gives me enough battery life to make it through the day without a recharge and leave the eink screen on all night as a tv remote.
I got a new phone
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I think it is something with Android 5.0 that is causing the drain issues. I can go anywhere from half a day to a week with good batteyr life and then it will randomly start draining again. Some background activity seems to hold a permanent wakelock and will not let go of it. I am unable to pinpoint what app is creating the wakelock with better battery stats or wakelock detector since there isn't access to kernel wakelocks in either of the apps for our phone. A restart always fixes things though, so I have a tasker script now that lets me know when idle battery drain exceeds a threshold for too long so I know to do a restart, it's not elegant, but my battery life is exponentially better and gives me enough battery life to make it through the day without a recharge and leave the eink screen on all night as a tv remote.
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In the end, I got a new phone after my Yotaphone decided to brick itself. Its a Zopo Speed 7, Octacore, dual SIM, nice screen, and does 4G very well in my part of the world. It is also around $200 at time of writing. Its a Chinese phone typical of the genre, Zopo seem to be moderately responsive to bugs compared with Yota... This Zopa phone is running 5.1 Android and I can tell you that Lollipop is not the problem...
That's after charging the phone and leaving it overnight, with the battery saver mode on... not too shabby. Of course it won't actually last 28 days, but this phone is nothing special and it is capable of running without all those services running that the Yota has.
The Yota spent its entire time when I had it trying to contact Moscow with that dodgy 'dictionary app'. What (honestly) is the point of the e-ink display if it doesn't save power...
If you are experiencing "always awake" and wifi always on despite your settings saying otherwise it may be worth going into your advanced wifi settings and changing "wifi frequency band" from "auto" to "2.4 GHz only. I remember reading this tip somewhere else for an Android 5.0 phone that was having battery issues similar to this. I made this change about 24 hours ago and have noticed a dramatic difference in battery drain when the screen is off. When I look at my battery stats I am no longer seeing a solid bar for both wifi and awake. Worth trying.
For what it's worth, I have had fairly light use today, some checking of emails and facebook, 40 mins or so of music via bluetooth (with screen off). Total screen on time of 35 mins. The phone has been off charge since 06:30 this morning. It is now 17:00 and is showing battery of 71% with an estimated 2d and 8h left. Better battery stats show deep sleep of 71% whereas previously it had shown awake at 100%. Far better than I had before.
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If you are experiencing "always awake" and wifi always on despite your settings saying otherwise it may be worth going into your advanced wifi settings and changing "wifi frequency band" from "auto" to "2.4 GHz only. I remember reading this tip somewhere else for an Android 5.0 phone that was having battery issues similar to this. I made this change about 24 hours ago and have noticed a dramatic difference in battery drain when the screen is off. When I look at my battery stats I am no longer seeing a solid bar for both wifi and awake. Worth trying.
For what it's worth, I have had fairly light use today, some checking of emails and facebook, 40 mins or so of music via bluetooth (with screen off). Total screen on time of 35 mins. The phone has been off charge since 06:30 this morning. It is now 17:00 and is showing battery of 71% with an estimated 2d and 8h left. Better battery stats show deep sleep of 71% whereas previously it had shown awake at 100%. Far better than I had before.
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Have you tried using the setting so Wifi is only on while screen is on? (Unless on charge...)
I think I found the issue, at least with my phone.
I was syncing with exchange, and there is a nasty bug with android 5.0 and exchange sync. The sync is taking forever and doesn´t sync everything. Calendar and contacts missing.
Then I removed the ActiveSync connection on my phone and set up the app Nine to sync instead.
After that I got much better battery. This may help for others as well. The phone is just hammering the exchange server all the time and this takes up a lot of power.
I got a S4 i9505 with albe95 S6 port ROM. I've tweaked the settings to pretty much disable all background activity so there's no syncing, no GPS, no bluetooth no NFC etc. I've got airplane mode on 24/7 with WiFi turned on. I've also installed Greenify and System Tuner Pro (I have root) and disabled a few GooglePlayServices services and stuff. Followed a tutorial for that. Looking at the settings app, I've got 40% battery remaining and have been on battery for 2 hours 40 minutes. Probably slept for 30-45 minutes and when it was on, I go on chrome, mess with Theme engine and some other light stuff. Now I just waited 20-30 minutes and it drained 4% screen off. I waited 5 minutes and it drained 1%. Is there an app that runs in the background and I leave my phone screen off overnight to tell me what processes are using the most battery and then disable those processes? I've tried to google it but none have helped. I've disabled Gtalk and a bunch of other processes, no luck. About to download Titanium and mess around with Greenify a bit more. I'm new to Android, reason I don't like Android is it's battery life. My iPod touch 5's 910mAh battery lasts 5 hours watching YouTube, surfing the web and light gaming (Clash of Clans) while the S4's 2600 mAh battery lasts 3-4 hours. Triple the size but less battery life?
Android's root is a lot more complicated than iOS, we just go to Cydia and download tweaks like an app from the Play Store. But yeah, any apps you guys use to check background processes using battery?
It's called BetterBatteryStats.
I don't think you will find it on the play store. Or if it's free there. There is a free version on the forums here. And I mean free, not cracked or anything.
And there's more to battery life than just mAh. Your iPod has a smaller screen and a smaller resolution. Which means less work for the GPU.
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It's called BetterBatteryStats.
I don't think you will find it on the play store. Or if it's free there. There is a free version on the forums here. And I mean free, not cracked or anything.
And there's more to battery life than just mAh. Your iPod has a smaller screen and a smaller resolution. Which means less work for the GPU.
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Right so I messed around with BBS and I discovered the different tabs. Looked at Kernel wakelocks and Partial wakelocks. Did some research and PowerManagementService is a big one. Was told to go to partial wakelock and found RILS and RILJ0. Did some more research on that and it's related to radio and wireless stuff. (Radio Interface Layer) Did some MORE research and apparently my modem is the problem. Someone suggested me to get "GetRIL" from Play Store and see if the two ... things match but GetRIL either isn't compatible or it doesn't work. Now problem is, I have Airplane mode on 24/7 and WiFi enabled so cellular should b turned off, right?
With airplane mode on yes, network should be turned off.
The modem can be changed anyway. So maybe you just have to update the modem.
Also try a different rom.
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With airplane mode on yes, network should be turned off.
The modem can be changed anyway. So maybe you just have to update the modem.
Also try a different rom.
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I read that ROMS and kernels have no affect on battery life other than disabling sync and background stuff in the settings app. Only time it will affect battery life is if it's badly written.
So if cellular is turned off, why is "Cell Standby" the second most draining thing behind "Screen"? All the websites I looked at just say "Turn airplane on and wifi on" but what I'm really looking for is to completely disable cellular with "System Tuner", or do something with root permissions to force stop cellular. I've got no SIM card installed.
Not true. Both kernel and ROM can have a significant effect on battery life. For the kernel, a custom kernel can improve battery life by allowing the processor to be undervolted, thus using less power per CPU cycle. The ROM could also have battery-saving features, e.g. Doze in Android 6.0. The ROM could also have battery-sapping bugs.
The modem is separate from the ROM and kernel. It will have its own enhancements and is updated frequently, so you should update it.
If you dial *#*#4636#*#* you should get to a menu where you have the option to turn off radio. But that's probably the same thing as airplane mode.
And roms and kernels do have an impact on battery life. I once flashed a kernel that drained my battery very quickly. The same rom without that kernel was fine and with great battery life.
So, as I said, consider changing your rom. Just to see if it is rom related or not.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Not true. Both kernel and ROM can have a significant effect on battery life. For the kernel, a custom kernel can improve battery life by allowing the processor to be undervolted, thus using less power per CPU cycle. The ROM could also have battery-saving features, e.g. Doze in Android 6.0. The ROM could also have battery-sapping bugs.
The modem is separate from the ROM and kernel. It will have its own enhancements and is updated frequently, so you should update it.
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I updated my modem and bootloader from the same thread as my ROM, not sure if it did anything but I've managed to raise battery life from ~4 hours to ~7 hours just non-stop google chrome, theme-ing, downloading apps and trying to get better battery life. Also watched some YouTube videos.
I actually flashed this ROM because of themes, specifically the Avengers theme. Also there's a few pure black themes, did some research and pure black actually gives your battery ~40% more juice. Real world usage will probably be at least 15-20% more battery. But I'm still trying to find out how to fully disable cellular, anybody know? I've got root and Titanium Backup. I'm not sure what to freeze though and "Cell standby" continues to be the second most draining thing in the settings app.
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If you dial *#*#4636#*#* you should get to a menu where you have the option to turn off radio. But that's probably the same thing as airplane mode.
And roms and kernels do have an impact on battery life. I once flashed a kernel that drained my battery very quickly. The same rom without that kernel was fine and with great battery life.
So, as I said, consider changing your rom. Just to see if it is rom related or not.
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Dialing that says "Not registered with network" because I have no SIM installed. Cellular would kill my battery but even without a SIM, cellular still is active because of emergency.
I've googled everything I can think of, within 2 days I've increased my battery by at least 60% but cellular is driving me nuts. It's using ~20 of my battery while using my phone, that's 20% plus another ~20% once I find a way to get a pure black theme that works in third-party apps as well for my AMOLED display. Also, titanium backup isn't able to convert Google Play Services or GSF into a app so I can greenify it. It just processes and processes.
There is no theme that can make all apps black. Dark material makes many apps pitch black, but it's for CM based roms only.
You can get the pro version of greenify and maybe xposed. Then you can greenify system apps. Including Google play stuff. But greenify works only when screen is off. When screen is on, the greenified apps will run again.
Or use titanium backup to freeze everything Google play related, until you need it. But doing so will require you to input your gmail account again.
You might also freeze the phone app and anything else related to network. Since you're not going to use the phone for calls. Maybe that will solve cell issue.
Right, I have no idea how I did it but my phone for the past hour and a half has not dropped a single percent and has mostly been in deep sleep. No more wakelocks too, only thing I noticed was a alarm from Google in BBS but didn't mind that too much. Excited to see how much it will drop overnight.
Also, do you know the largest battery for the S4 that I can buy on amazon.ca? I don't want a case or a separate battery, I just want a battery that's more than 2600 mAh. So far, I think the ZeroLemon 3000 mAh battery is the biggest but I heard it's got no NFC. I don't use NFC or anything wireless other than WiFi but could you give me a quick explanation of what this does cause apparently it's a part of the battery itself.
You know that thing where you put two phones together (back to back) and it transfers data from one phone to the other? That is NFC. You can basically send web pages, app pages in the google play store and phone numbers with it. Just bring whatever you want to send on the screen and touch your phone on another phone to send it.
You can't sent actual apps and files.
The connection is established through connectors on the battery. That's why it won't work if the battery doesn't have one. It also is a method to verify the autenticity of batteries. Fake batteries don't usually have working NFC.
Now, the biggest S4 battery I heard of is about 9000 mAh. The second is 7500 mAh. I don't know if you can find them on Amazon.ca.
Use amplify and limit all "safe to limit" wakelocks.
Hi guys,
I have been having an issue with my Motorola X Play (UK Single Sim) I have only owned it for a few months from new.... The battery is draining fast and I can see in the battery stats that it's not sleeping, otherwise the battery usage page shows nothing of interest, apart from perhaps Mobile Standby which is quite high, above the screen but the signal bar is all green...
I rooted my phone to better find out what was causing these issues, otherwise stock Marshmallow. Unfortunately Motorola now are not interested as they say my phone is rooted and now has no warranty - useless idiots!
Using GS Sam battery monitor (rooted) I can see that the following is keeping the phone awake, no other app is.
48.3% of battery consumed by Kernel (Android OS)
Keep awake over 2 hours
CPU usage 59m 53s
Number of Wake Locks: 1
Byes sent: 246.21KB
Bytes Received: 5.70MB
App UID: 0
Wakelock Detail:
Google_C2DM 0.0s (1)
I have tried safe mode but it appears to be the same, I have hardly any apps installed apart from Facebook and Facebook messenger and I have even tried it without them...
I have tried turning off/on WiFi / Location / GPS is now disabled. WiFi Scanning is off. Restarts make no difference... I have even done a factory reset about a month ago.
Any ideas, this phone is having the same battery life or less than my Nexus 5 which had a much smaller battery...
Many thanks
here's a way to avoid it http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/help/google-c2dm-checkin-services-t1321520
i'll update if i find anything else.
don't tell them your device is rooted. if you go to service center just re-lock the bootloader and its back to normal.[it won't get your warranty back but they don't check that much]
can you post a screenshot of gs sam.
1 - Install BetterBatteryStats (BBS) - this will give you detailed information on what is draining your battery. Get it from XDA v2.2.0.0B6 - this gives you the detailed breakdown in the UI that you are after, the google play version doesn't do it in the UI (older version).
Get baseline results (charge it full, don't touch it for 5-6 hours) I like to do this while sleeping.
2 - Install Greenify (you don't need the Xposed module if you don't want to fiddle with that yet, alto I highly recommend it) set the working mode to root. If applications are still not sleeping, add the widget and force sleep everything before you turn off your screen
Get BBS results (do the 5-6 hours while sleeping) - improved?
3 - Install Naptime from the google play store (by Fransico Franco)
Get BBS results - improved?
Getting anal about battery usage?
4- Read up on Amplify - this yielded even more results for me. But this can take a bit of work to get right. There's a lot of great threads on XDA for setting this up.
5 -Smart network - allows you to control data, networks, wifi, bluetooh, nfc, gps on/off with a ton of great features for auto. management.
I have all the above and yield a 0.4%/hr drain on stand by (see signature for phone build).
Amplify is a god sent app. It has been 4 hours now, and I have been using whatsapp on and off (about 20 seconds each time) and I still have 97% left in the tank.
LaurenceGough said:
Hi guys,
I have been having an issue with my Motorola X Play (UK Single Sim) I have only owned it for a few months from new.... The battery is draining fast and I can see in the battery stats that it's not sleeping, otherwise the battery usage page shows nothing of interest, apart from perhaps Mobile Standby which is quite high, above the screen but the signal bar is all green...
I rooted my phone to better find out what was causing these issues, otherwise stock Marshmallow. Unfortunately Motorola now are not interested as they say my phone is rooted and now has no warranty - useless idiots!
Using GS Sam battery monitor (rooted) I can see that the following is keeping the phone awake, no other app is.
48.3% of battery consumed by Kernel (Android OS)
Keep awake over 2 hours
CPU usage 59m 53s
Number of Wake Locks: 1
Byes sent: 246.21KB
Bytes Received: 5.70MB
App UID: 0
Wakelock Detail:
Google_C2DM 0.0s (1)
I have tried safe mode but it appears to be the same, I have hardly any apps installed apart from Facebook and Facebook messenger and I have even tried it without them...
I have tried turning off/on WiFi / Location / GPS is now disabled. WiFi Scanning is off. Restarts make no difference... I have even done a factory reset about a month ago.
Any ideas, this phone is having the same battery life or less than my Nexus 5 which had a much smaller battery...
Many thanks
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Facebook app has been known to cause serious battery drain in the past. Uninstall it and test again.
In 99% of the cases it is caused by an app. Try to find out which one is causing the drain.
Hi all,
Sorry for the delay and thanks for the replies. I performed a factory reset again, after clearing the cache etc, the same as I did last time. The only difference is I then installed Android 6.0.1
The battery drain has now gone. I didn't perform a restore of apps etc, and the only apps I have installed so far in addition have been Facebook and Facebook messenger but I have found these have had no effect at all on the battery drain. I haven't even updated the stock apps (apart from the security ones).
I now get two days of use easy. It also seems to be running slightly faster. I will update apps one by one, over the course of a few days to make sure nothing causes it again...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
I use this guide, works really great to limit wake locks.
And I don't use Fb app but use the browser instead, battery lasts easily two days of "heavy" usage !
I found the problem, or at least a major bug. Whenever you cast to Google Chromecast Audio and then stop casting completely there is a massive wakelock until you next restart the phone. My phone was awake all night and down to 20% battery life. Android OS takes a massive portion of the battery life and under keep awake stats it's 9 hours +. It seems that when it says disconnected it is not. A major bug! I'll try and report it using Google's bug reporter...
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I found the problem, or at least a major bug. Whenever you cast to Google Chromecast Audio and then stop casting completely there is a massive wakelock until you next restart the phone. My phone was awake all night and down to 20% battery life. Android OS takes a massive portion of the battery life and under keep awake stats it's 9 hours +. It seems that when it says disconnected it is not. A major bug! I'll try and report it using Google's bug reporter...
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not even Doze could kill it? perhaps you could try Servicely and see if it could stop the thing from running.
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not even Doze could kill it? perhaps you could try Servicely and see if it could stop the thing from running.
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Nope, Doze had no affect at all but it should be as it was sitting stationary overnight - normally the drain overnight is a few percent at the most, last night it was around 65% and I was left with 20% in the morning and this was I think the first time I had used Google Chromecast Audio since the factory reset with great battery life up to last night... I could try Servicely but I am not sure on the service to kill and I'd like to keep it 100% stock for now so I can help out Google to fix the bug (or Motorola if they bother)... What a pain as I just bought 4x Google Chromecast Audios!!
I have reported it here in the Android bug tracker, feel free to comment / star the issue to bring it to Google's attention.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=208324
However I am not sure if this is a Motorola Issue or a Google Marshmallow / Chromecast issue?? Motorola support have been very unhelpful so no luck if that is the case...
If anyone else with Chromecast Audio could confirm the bug that would be great.
Thanks
Laurence
There's a post on reddit about battery drain with chromecast audio about a year ago, not sure if it's the same issue though.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/fix-fix-systemupdateservice-wakelock-t3060548
maybe this help, on moto g this helped
apart from greenify and naptime...i dont think we have something like amplify yet for nougat devices, also with the governor scripts they are providing better results now
yep
miss5tability said:
i dont have root etc but on my just buy moto x play with stock android 6 i dont have 2 sensors working and deep sleep is gone so battery drain... even after cler cache. reset etc, this phone is pure ****
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If you bought it brand new just go back to the shop for replacement
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If you bought it brand new just go back to the shop for replacement
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Hello all,
So I know there's various discussions all over the web about the Galaxy s10 and battery issues on both Snapdragon and Exynos variants. It seems people are experiencing a wide margin of difference in avg battery life..
So here's my situation. My wife and I both have S10+'s through AT&T. We got them the first week they came out. I looked though the forums and performed several battery optimization tweaks on both phones and since then the battery life has been really impressive... No complaints really. Until this last week.
We both recieved the March security patch and fingerprint scanner fix about a week ago. My wife's phone seems unchanged by this. Everything working as expected. My phone however has been draining battery MUCH faster both in SOT and standby time. I'm losing 2-3x more battery % overnight. In the last 20 mins of just reading through threads on the XDA forum app, I've lost about 10% battery. I'm sitting in the dark with my screen brightness very low too. (down another 5% since I started typing this!)
My wife and I have very similar phone habits. Since both our phones are optimized identically, and we used most of the same apps a play the same games, I started looking through everything different I've done in my phone since this problem started. I installed Adhell3, which seems to be setup properly and working. Mike B. from Adhell's Discord assured me that Adhell shouldn't be draining my battery. I'm mostly using it just to remove a bunch of basic bloatware and block some ads.
The update seems to have worked fine otherwise. My FP scanner is much better now, but something is definitely wrong. I've tried wiping the partition cache afterwards. I've tracked down others experiencing issues after this particular update, but cant seem to find a way to fix this problem yet. I saw something about Deep Sleep problems after the update when someone uses a VOIP service like Skype or WhatsApp, but I dont use anything like that. I can't even find a good tool to use to see more information about my battery usage, as the built-in battery monitor lacks a good deal of information. CPUspy doesn't work on my version.
If anyone has any ideas of what could be the culprit, what else I could try, or what tools I could use to try and track down what exactly is causing this sudden increase in drain, I'd really appreciate it.
Which update do you have ASBA or ASCA? This is rather weird, Battery drain can also come from restoring from backups. I lose 2% every night and my phone is on airplane mode, not connected to anything except location. I do not have adhell, and last time I tested before the fingerprint update I had 10h SoT on wifi purely. When I got the new fingerprint update I checked if the phone went to deep sleep and it does, so I really do not know what might be your issue. I have an exynos variant btw. Also I charge my phone constantly from 80 I let it drop to 40 and charge it back, I do not use fast charging options. Since unplugging my phone now on LTE fully I have lost 1% in 30 min, I have my fitbit always connected, location on, max resolution, I have a semi black wallpaper and brightness around 40-50%.
I will see today how much SoT I can get from 80% part wifi, part LTE, I will update.
clear cache helped a lot of people
Update 1
Reset all phone settings to factory. Don't do full factory reset, just all the settings, fixed my post update battery drain issues
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Hrrm. It seems I don't have ASBA or ASCA, I have ASD3. The March update.
I'm really hoping I don't end up having to factory reset and manually install everything... Because I did do a restore from backup with AT&T Transfer, because it seemed really convenient and time saving. I had no idea that so many people have had issues with restoring from various back up services (AT&T, Samsung, Google etc.)
I did the same restore from backup on my wife's S10+ too and she's had no problems. Her battery life is phenomenal. My battery issues only started after this last update.
SinisterDev said:
I'm really hoping I don't end up having to factory reset and manually install everything... Because I did do a restore from backup with AT&T Transfer, because it seemed really convenient and time saving. I had no idea that so many people have had issues with restoring from various back up services (AT&T, Samsung, Google etc.)
I did the same restore from backup on my wife's S10+ too and she's had no problems. Her battery life is phenomenal. My battery issues only started after this last update.
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Well that seems rather strange to be honest, you can eliminate possibilities by just testing and see what works. Last possibility can be that factory resetting and installing all new, but then again, it could be that it solves your issues or not. You should be having rather horizontal lines to prove your phone is truly going into deep sleep in my opinion, but also you can check with CPU Spy
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Try to log too safe mode and check the battery drain
If stopped then it was from an application that have a problem
If not I think it might be a system app or something
So. I'm starting to think that some of my problem has to do with wakelocks. Unfortunately I have limited access to wakelocks statistics since my phone is unrooted. However. Last night I fully charged my phone right before bed and then took it off the charger to see how much it would lose overnight. It dropped a whopping 10% vs the 1-2% it used to.
I looked through some of the battery info and noticed several apps running in the background for very long periods of time since last night. Chrome(2hrs) , Discord(2hrs), Google Play Services(a whopping 13hrs 30mins running in background) and Google Play store (5hrs)
Somehow Discord was responsible for draining 7.6% battery in that time!
So, could this be a wakelock issue causing my phone to lose so much battery overnight? I know that's only half the problem, because I'm also experiencing higher drain than usual while using certain apps too. But I'm trying to figure out one thing at time.
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So. I'm starting to think that some of my problem has to do with wakelocks. Unfortunately I have limited access to wakelocks statistics since my phone is unrooted. However. Last night I fully charged my phone right before bed and then took it off the charger to see how much it would lose overnight. It dropped a whopping 10% vs the 1-2% it used to.
I looked through some of the battery info and noticed several apps running in the background for very long periods of time since last night. Chrome(2hrs) , Discord(2hrs), Google Play Services(a whopping 13hrs 30mins running in background) and Google Play store (5hrs)
Somehow Discord was responsible for draining 7.6% battery in that time!
So, could this be a wakelock issue causing my phone to lose so much battery overnight? I know that's only half the problem, because I'm also experiencing higher drain than usual while using certain apps too. But I'm trying to figure out one thing at time.
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You can look at this thread and see if you can install the app without being root or not
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
aromerodaniel said:
Which update do you have ASBA or ASCA? This is rather weird, Battery drain can also come from restoring from backups. I lose 2% every night and my phone is on airplane mode, not connected to anything except location. I do not have adhell, and last time I tested before the fingerprint update I had 10h SoT on wifi purely. When I got the new fingerprint update I checked if the phone went to deep sleep and it does, so I really do not know what might be your issue. I have an exynos variant btw. Also I charge my phone constantly from 80 I let it drop to 40 and charge it back, I do not use fast charging options. Since unplugging my phone now on LTE fully I have lost 1% in 30 min, I have my fitbit always connected, location on, max resolution, I have a semi black wallpaper and brightness around 40-50%.
I will see today how much SoT I can get from 80% part wifi, part LTE, I will update.
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10 sot？！？！？you sure about it?!?whatever I try I always only have 7 something sot,how can you make it 10?!?
paullu said:
10 sot？！？！？you sure about it?!?whatever I try I always only have 7 something sot,how can you make it 10?!?
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I have done it before, I can look for the image, if you would like. That was a full day of wifi actually.
paullu said:
10 sot？！？！？you sure about it?!?whatever I try I always only have 7 something sot,how can you make it 10?!?
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Here is the pic
Also you can look at this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/how-to/official-exynos-battery-life-thread-t3917814/page7
You have it good compared with me I get background drain on all apps and I have all apps set not to run in the background
da1e8 said:
You have it good compared with me I get background drain on all apps and I have all apps set not to run in the background
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You just need to tweak your settings more, put which apps do not run on the background or go to sleep, how many days you need to wait to put unused apps to sleep. Is all tweaking the settings.
aromerodaniel said:
You just need to tweak your settings more, put which apps do not run on the background or go to sleep, how many days you need to wait to put unused apps to sleep. Is all tweaking the settings.
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I've put all apps to sleep and they still register as been used
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I've put all apps to sleep and they still register as been used
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Then I don't what you can do, either do a factory reset and so not restore anything from backups and see if that works. I usually set my phone that way, clean no restoration from any backup all apps are installed manually, and I do not even use adhell to disable most of Samsung crap apps and services.