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Update message?

My wife's phone just said there is a new update available. I did not let it install. Anyone else get this update alert?

Not yet, no ota or via kies. I'm on Rogers, i know it's not ATT but since the S2, we had all updates a few days before ATT which is the sister company in the US and nothing here yet. Can you check and see if is this long awaited update samsung started rolling out 2 weeks ago?

I have AT&T version of S4 and did not get any update notice and nothing shows up on check updates.
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Well, from what I've been reading it's possible in addition to the update, they may be trying to patch Loki, which is why I was hesitant. I was messing with it to get rid of the lock icon/custom boot up. I tried flashing the stock Rom with Odin but it only seemed to flash on top of the Rom already installed. Then once it boot up, the update management thing kicked in. It's possible it was just triggering the first update we got a few weeks back, and not a new one.
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If this isn't about the "BMEA" update, please have it deleted or locked. Another Update thread that isn't about an update isn't helping anyone. Nothing personal, but people need to confirm what they are posting about before they post about it.

people also need to stop acting like moderators.

How am I going to verify it, if I haven't installed it yet? If it indeed was the new update with a patch for Loki, I am not the one who wants to flash it first.
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polish_pat said:
people also need to stop acting like moderators.
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Agreed, god forbid someone makes a post about something how dare they. lock them up and burn them!!!!!

Well what's your current baseband? Its most likely the AMDL update.
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AT&T SGH-I467 OTA Update I467UCAMF2

Hey everyone. I just got an OTA update for my Note 8.0 LTE (AT&T). It's a small update (16.3MB). The new firmware build is I467UCAMF2. This is probably just a bugfix update but OTAs are almost always a good thing.
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Yeah got it this morning... was hoping it would fix the screen from becoming unresponsive. Did not fix it
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Update the Software for the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 (i467)
Update summary
The latest software package updates the baseband version to I467UCAMF2, and includes improvements to the initial setup process on the device. The update is available for download over a Wi-Fi network connection.
What to expect after the update
Although there should be no impacts to settings or data, we recommend that you back up your media files to an SD card, a PC, or using a favorite application (from the Play Store), prior to upgrading the software. For information on backing up and restoring your phone using Samsung Kies, click here.
How to update
Customers will receive an alert and be prompted to download the update, or have the option to initiate the update manually. When prompted, you can postpone the update up to 3 times, and 4 hours per occurrence. After the update has been postponed for the maximum allowable time, your device will automatically download and install the update.
Note: Before the update can begin, your tablet must be connected to a Wi-Fi network.
To initiate the update manually, go to Settings .
Scroll to the "System" section, and then tap About device > Software update > Check for updates.
Tap OK.
The device will determine if new software is available, and begin downloading the software update. Once complete, the device will restart.
Please wait until your tablet reboots completely, and then tap Done to finish.
How to verify the update
From the home screen, tap Settings .
NOTE: Alternatively, from the home screen, press the Menu key, and then tap Settings.
From the "more" tab, tap About device. The following information will be displayed:
Android version: 4.1.2
Baseband version: I467UCAMF2
Build number: JZO54K.I467UCAMF2

Archon810 said:
Update the Software for the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 (i467)
Update summary
The latest software package updates the baseband version to I467UCAMF2, and includes improvements to the initial setup process on the device. The update is available for download over a Wi-Fi network connection.
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OK so allow me to translate that into English:
"Because we're A, T and f***ing T, we decided to make Samsung replace Google's normal Android setup app with our own called AT&T Ready2Go. The problem is, again because we're A, T and f***ing T, our app sucks. If you have two-step verification enabled on your Google account, you won't be able to sign into your Google account during setup with AT&T Ready2Go. I guess we underestimated how many people actually have it turned on, so oops! Our bad. Here, it's enabled. Happy now?"

I manually updated a couple of hours ago. After playing around with the Note 8 with the update for about an hour I no longer experience the screen stutter/freeze/pause/etc. issue. I hope this in fact is fixed, but so far so good.

cataloochee said:
I manually updated a couple of hours ago. After playing around with the Note 8 with the update for about an hour I no longer experience the screen stutter/freeze/pause/etc. issue. I hope this in fact is fixed, but so far so good.
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I'm still getting the unresponsive screen issue post-update. I've thought about doing a reset, but haven't actually done it yet.

Would be nice if someone had the OTA zip, as it is possible a root could be made from it if the right images are included.
- Dan

DanMc85 said:
Would be nice if someone had the OTA zip, as it is possible a root could be made from it if the right images are included.
- Dan
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Nobody cam get the zip file unless they're rooted and root isn't currently possible on the AT&T model.
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oldblue910 said:
Nobody cam get the zip file unless they're rooted and root isn't currently possible on the AT&T model.
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So is this thing super locked down or do not many people have it yet? No root is killing me.
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joshw0000 said:
So is this thing super locked down or do not many people have it yet? No root is killing me.
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A little of both. The bootloader is encrypted and locked on the AT&T model, but also, very few of us on XDA actually have one. Let's be real. People around here thumb their noses at tablets with an LTE connection a lot of times. They just have no hipster cred in the Android geek community. The in crowd just buys a WiFi-only tablet and tethers it to their phone. It's the geekier thing to do, even if it's a pain in the @$$. You can talk about why LTE tablets are useful until you're blue in the face but it falls on deaf ears more often than not.
Unfortunately, I'm not very optimistic that we'll ever see root unless there comes a time where the WiFi-only root method works on the AT&T model.
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oldblue910 said:
A little of both. The bootloader is encrypted and locked on the AT&T model, but also, very few of us on XDA actually have one. Let's be real. People around here thumb their noses at tablets with an LTE connection a lot of times. They just have no hipster cred in the Android geek community. The in crowd just buys a WiFi-only tablet and tethers it to their phone. It's the geekier thing to do, even if it's a pain in the @$$. You can talk about why LTE tablets are useful until you're blue in the face but it falls on deaf ears more often than not.
Unfortunately, I'm not very optimistic that we'll ever see root unless there comes a time where the WiFi-only root method works on the AT&T model.
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Is it encrypted? I got this tablet 2nd hand and I may never even put service on it. If I can't root it, I'll probably trade it for a wifi version. I know AT&T and Verizon pushed an OTA to the S4's that prevented root. Luckily I was rooted/rom'ed prior to that. My GN8 doesn't have the latest OTA. I'm still hopeful for root and unlock/simunlock so I can grab a pre-paid card for this tab.
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joshw0000 said:
Is it encrypted? I got this tablet 2nd hand and I may never even put service on it. If I can't root it, I'll probably trade it for a wifi version. I know AT&T and Verizon pushed an OTA to the S4's that prevented root. Luckily I was rooted/rom'ed prior to that. My GN8 doesn't have the latest OTA. I'm still hopeful for root and unlock/simunlock so I can grab a pre-paid card for this tab.
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Yes is encrypted and was in the original shipping firmware too, sadly.
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oldblue910 said:
Yes is encrypted and was in the original shipping firmware too, sadly.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk HD
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Damn. I couldn't find any info online about it when I got it so I assumed it was just a matter of time before it was rooted like the others.
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Has anyone tried fc or moyochopper?
My device is trying to update but I blocked it (for now)...
If I can root it before the download starts them maybe I can grab the file...

prestonjb said:
Has anyone tried fc or moyochopper?
My device is trying to update but I blocked it (for now)...
If I can root it before the download starts them maybe I can grab the file...
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I haven't tried personally, but if you want to try, go for it.

oldblue910 said:
Yes is encrypted and was in the original shipping firmware too, sadly.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk HD
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Damm, I was going to try to learn to build a rooted kernel.
If it's not a hassle can you point me to the post that IDed the encryption, or did you verify it?

Here is the Firmware for the newest OTA It has everything you could possibly want. I'm working a double or i would of already cracked it open and at least done something with it.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzgUrWZ7XZ0rRWNZNlU0bmg2Uk0/edit?usp=sharing

dirtydroidx said:
Here is the Firmware for the newest OTA It has everything you could possibly want. I'm working a double or i would of already cracked it open and at least done something with it.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzgUrWZ7XZ0rRWNZNlU0bmg2Uk0/edit?usp=sharing
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Thanks for this. This is actually the original firmware, not the OTA. The link you provided was for MF1. That's the original shipping firmware. MF2 is the OTA. Still, this is great to have!

oldblue910 said:
Thanks for this. This is actually the original firmware, not the OTA. The link you provided was for MF1. That's the original shipping firmware. MF2 is the OTA. Still, this is great to have!
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yeah forgot about that little OTA I made a boot.img and pushed it via hemdall, and it took , Im guessing that the everything by-name is writable via odin. Well lol at least im hoping it is haha.

dirtydroidx said:
yeah forgot about that little OTA I made a boot.img and pushed it via hemdall, and it took , Im guessing that the everything by-name is writable via odin. Well lol at least im hoping it is haha.
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How did you dump that? Are you rooted?

Intersting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYbWZNtCjA

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYbWZNtCjA
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I saw this posted earlier. I think the big question is does he release it and thus burn an exploit or does he wait for 4.3 in hopes that it is still there and thus provides a root option for 4.3 as well. I'm not sure which is my preference. The only thing I personally miss by not being rooted is the tethering, which I only use in emergency situations anyway, so its not crucial for me. However, it is nice to have freedom from the carrier release cycle if we get a way to flash roms without an unlocked bootloader.

bugsy said:
I saw this posted earlier. I think the big question is does he release it and thus burn an exploit or does he wait for 4.3 in hopes that it is still there and thus provides a root option for 4.3 as well. I'm not sure which is my preference. The only thing I personally miss by not being rooted is the tethering, which I only use in emergency situations anyway, so its not crucial for me. However, it is nice to have freedom from the carrier release cycle if we get a way to flash roms without an unlocked bootloader.
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you got any idea what was going on with the order in which he clicked on things in the about phone menu? was that part of the exploit or what? I couldn't tell if it was doing something or he was just showing you it was the OTA.

jayboyyyy said:
you got any idea what was going on with the order in which he clicked on things in the about phone menu? was that part of the exploit or what? I couldn't tell if it was doing something or he was just showing you it was the OTA.
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Just proving the version.

I would rather that he wait and see if the exploit is still available in 4.3. There's a way to go back to the first build from this update, so if you really need root that badly, you can always just do that. Once SafeStrap is ready, we'll probably see a zip of the update that can be flashed, so I find little reason for him to burn this flaw right now.

freak4dell said:
I would rather that he wait and see if the exploit is still available in 4.3. There's a way to go back to the first build from this update, so if you really need root that badly, you can always just do that. Once SafeStrap is ready, we'll probably see a zip of the update that can be flashed, so I find little reason for him to burn this flaw right now.
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how would one go back to the first build after the update is applied?

mj0528 said:
how would one go back to the first build after the update is applied?
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You can't. Jcase stated in another thread that the exploit he used wasn't practical for most users so he probably won't release it. Was more a proof of concept
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mj0528 said:
how would one go back to the first build after the update is applied?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46007395
Not sure if anybody ever tried that on a locked device, but I think it should work.

[Q] Cannot install Verizon OTA after towelroot

Hi All,
Please forgive me if this sounds like a noob question...
Here is the situation:
Rooted verizon galaxy s5 with towel root.
Cannot install the new OTA update they just released, the update downloads and fails on the attempt to install. Shows the little green android with red ! in his belly:cyclops:
Please help! You guys are awesome! I really want this update

nickd1976 said:
Hi All,
Please forgive me if this sounds like a noob question...
Here is the situation:
Rooted verizon galaxy s5 with towel root.
Cannot install the new OTA update they just released, the update downloads and fails on the attempt to install. Shows the little green android with red ! in his belly:cyclops:
Please help! You guys are awesome! I really want this update
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First, plug phone into computer, and install updater software from the phone that is on the device in 'Installer Mode'. Take the download on the PC, then follow directions below, and you can still have root after.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-g900vvru1ane9-t2836201
For more information, read through this thread as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/verizon-ota-rolling-t2834027

Thank you so much!!!
Sent from my SM-G900V using XDA Free mobile app

Some reason the upgrade button is greyed out
kprice8 said:
First, plug phone into computer, and install updater software from the phone that is on the device in 'Installer Mode'. Take the download on the PC, then follow directions below, and you can still have root after.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-root-g900vvru1ane9-t2836201
For more information, read through this thread as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/verizon-ota-rolling-t2834027
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Hi again,
I installed the upgrade assistant in installer mode but for some reason it is not picking up the new NE9 update on my computer. See attached print screen. Very strange.. It sees the update on my phone to download though.:cyclops: Do you know why this is and how I can get it to see the update on the upgrade assistant as you mentioned?
Kind Regards

Can you explain why you want the update so bad? You do realize that rooting and accepting official otas is completely contradictory, correct? OTAs are generally what fix things like what towelroot exploits. If you accept official OTA, you will likely lose root.

But can't I just re root after the ota? I guess the reason I want the Ota because I heard of camera enhancements and stability fixes
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nickd1976 said:
But can't I just re root after the ota? I guess the reason I want the Ota because I heard of camera enhancements and stability fixes
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No. OTA have patches for known security flaws as well. The flaw that towelroot relies on is closed after the new OTA. Meaning, no more root.
edit: in this case I believe folks have figured out a work around for keeping root with the update. In general though, if you value root and what it provides you do not accept official releases.

ks3rv3rg said:
No. OTA have patches for known security flaws as well. The flaw that towelroot relies on is closed after the new OTA. Meaning, no more root.
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@ks3rv3rg I believe the links mentioned above provide a workaround for the Root to be kept after updating.
As for the problem nick, I can't help you there. I haven't personally take it as I see taking OTA's is silly with a rooted phone you can modify to be much more. Perhaps someone else who has done it will chime in...

Thank you both for your perspectives.. Plus, I can always just wait for a ROM that currently has the update installed.

ks3rv3rg said:
No. OTA have patches for known security flaws as well. The flaw that towelroot relies on is closed after the new OTA. Meaning, no more root.
edit: in this case I believe folks have figured out a work around for keeping root with the update. In general though, if you value root and what it provides you do not accept official releases.
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@ks3rv3rg I believe the links mentioned above provide a workaround for the Root to be kept after updating.
As for the problem nick, I can't help you there. I haven't personally take it as I see taking OTA's is silly with a rooted phone you can modify to be much more. Perhaps someone else who has done it will chime in...
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Thank you both for educating me on this. Ill try the work around to try to keep the root and update. I just wish I could get the Verizon update assistant to download the NE9. Either way Ill just wait for a ROM with the new OTA.

nickd1976 said:
Thank you both for educating me on this. Ill try the work around to try to keep the root and update. I just wish I could get the Verizon update assistant to download the NE9. Either way Ill just wait for a ROM with the new OTA.
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I just saw that JasmineROM came out and it's updated to NE9 and all you do is flash the stuff. Check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/rom-jasminerom-v1-0-bases-t2836387

nickd1976 said:
Thank you both for educating me on this. Ill try the work around to try to keep the root and update. I just wish I could get the Verizon update assistant to download the NE9. Either way Ill just wait for a ROM with the new OTA.
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Good choice. I know I saw someone mention that they were building a safestrap flashable ota rom.

ks3rv3rg said:
Good choice. I know I saw someone mention that they were building a safestrap flashable ota rom.
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Me? Directly above you? XD lol

ks3rv3rg said:
Good choice. I know I saw someone mention that they were building a safestrap flashable ota rom.
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I think you are referring to my safestrap flashable OTA zip file. I'm going to keep that one in my back pocket for the next OTA since the kernel swap worked.

I'm happy to say I installed this rom and the firmware and it rocks!! Thank you .plus I got my download booster and my overclock settings!!
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I have a similar question but reversed. How do I stop it from updating and it from asking me to update? I have the free version of titanium backup and can't freeze it. Is their another way? I can't turn off SDM that runs the ota upgrade i can only force stop it.

jpcloudsurf said:
I have a similar question but reversed. How do I stop it from updating and it from asking me to update? I have the free version of titanium backup and can't freeze it. Is their another way? I can't turn off SDM that runs the ota upgrade i can only force stop it.
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Remove it. Won't hurt anything.

TiBu
Buying the pro version of TiBu was the best money I ever spent!!!!

What is tibu?
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What is tibu?
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Titanium Backup

Nk4 update

Update coming thru..
G900PVPU1ANK4
OTA file size: 366.65MB
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=sm-g900p
http://support.sprint.com/support/a...ndUpdateTheSoftwareVersionOnYourSamsungGalaxy

Finally about time!
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The update has been released downloading now

I'm downloading right now too
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Insert obvious follow-up question about towel root
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There is already an RDF discussion thread here with announcements and links.
Please refer to this thread to prevent multiple cross posting.
RDF Discussion Thread for Sprint Galaxy S5 (SM-G900P)

This is about the update itself and specific discussions about the update. This is not about the RDF itself.
Why would you want to fill that thread with stuff not immediately about the RDF discussion?
tdunham said:
There is already an RDF discussion thread here with announcements and links.
Please refer to this thread to prevent multiple cross posting.
RDF Discussion Thread for Sprint Galaxy S5 (SM-G900P)
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tdunham said:
There is already an RDF discussion thread here with announcements and links.
Please refer to this thread to prevent multiple cross posting.
RDF Discussion Thread for Sprint Galaxy S5 (SM-G900P)
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Nope
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Can anyone confirm whether or not NK4 can be rooted freely at the moment? And if so, your method of choice? I've been hearing rumors about root-killing updates(especially in regards to Lollipop) and am hesitant to do any updating. I don't want to lose superuser access just so I can get an HD Voice icon.

Jay5583 said:
Update coming thru..
G900PVPU1ANK4
OTA file size: 366.65MB
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=sm-g900p
http://support.sprint.com/support/a...ndUpdateTheSoftwareVersionOnYourSamsungGalaxy
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Can someone grab and post the ota from your cache/fota folder.

Yes new update can be rooted

The official 4.4.4 and unofficial 5.0 can both be rooted with CF auto root
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banccalif said:
The official 4.4.4 and unofficial 5.0 can both be rooted with CF auto root
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I wouldn't use that unless you care to trip KNOX and give up warranty. If all you want is root to remove bloat and tweak you can without tripping.
I can say I am now on the official 4.4.4 update, rooted without knox flagged (IE still full warranty).
Runs great.
The only change I don't like is before I had WiFi calling always set to on and it would be on when I turned my WiFi on and not when Wifi was off.
Now if I have it on and my WiFi off, it turns my Wifi on randomly or on reboots, even if it was prior off.
Oh well.
Anyway. For those that want to root and keep Knox 0x0 (not tripped) it's simple.
I used Kies to update to the latest release (OTA kept giving an error that many others on sprint forum are getting).
After this I installed towelroot (don't run yet). Next I used Odin to flash the NE5 stock kernel. Ran towelroot, ran Odin to flash NK4 kernel back, after installed SU and now all is well. Full root, good performance and not knox tripped. One thing to note is that while on the NE5 kernel you will get tons of errors, just ignore them, the original kernel will fix when all done.
I don't care for custom recovery and the stock kernel honestly runs great and I can manually do any tweaks I want but have the piece of mind of not having tripped knox.
Just wanted to share though that this work around works on sprint. I know other forums mention how to do on other providers etc.
**update**
I posed the files I used in another thread (as seems we have duplicate topics). So if anyone needs the kernels I got em already converted to tar and ready to go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57139088&postcount=76

Nice work. I'm sure some would find this helpful! I tripped knox within the fist 20mins of owning my device ?

banccalif said:
Nice work. I'm sure some would find this helpful! I tripped knox within the fist 20mins of owning my device ?
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Yea, I've been fighting hard to avoid tripping it for the moment. I mean I guess when all said and done I don't care TOO much, but for now if I can root without tripping I will do it. (resale value also higher if not tripped so might get new phone in March).
I imagine this work-around won't work when 5.0 comes out as the kernel is changing too much so unless someone finds a new exploit to root without knox trip I will probably end up tripping it upon official 5.0 lol but until that time I have some piece of mind if anything stops working.
I'm actually fine with stock I just hate all the damn bloat they put on it so have to root to ditch it all. I don't know why they don't just make it so we can uninstall whatever we want...

Is there any reason to update to this? I might just skip and wait for Lollipop.

slickdealers said:
Is there any reason to update to this? I might just skip and wait for Lollipop.
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Performance, bug fixes etc. etc.
Remember this is already a skipped update. Sprint skipped 4.4.3.
It also includes new modem firmware among other things.
The wait game could be a bit. I don't expect Sprint to get 5.0 until around the time the S6 is releasing. Samsung is almost done with it but it takes months before Sprint will pump it out. Do you think they would have bothered with 4.4.4 if this was going to be out in a month?
I see no reason why one would wait? Nothing is lost, root is still possible. It may also be a prep for 5.0. Maybe they are using it as a firmware stepping stone. Who knows. I wouldn't bother waiting.

bryanu said:
Performance, bug fixes etc. etc.
Remember this is already a skipped update. Sprint skipped 4.4.3.
It also includes new modem firmware among other things.
The wait game could be a bit. I don't expect Sprint to get 5.0 until around the time the S6 is releasing. Samsung is almost done with it but it takes months before Sprint will pump it out. Do you think they would have bothered with 4.4.4 if this was going to be out in a month?
I see no reason why one would wait? Nothing is lost, root is still possible. It may also be a prep for 5.0. Maybe they are using it as a firmware stepping stone. Who knows. I wouldn't bother waiting.
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So you think we won't get Lollipop until April when we already have a leaked (pretty damn stable) build?? I'm sorry but that is straight up idiotic. We will have Lollipop by the end of Dec-Jan.

As of now there is no towelroot for 5.0 so you might have to. Xposed also doesn't work and might be a while before its able to run on the new platform.
I'm running the 5.0 leak now, we will definitely have Lollipop by Jan at the latest, I think more like late Dec
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JoeFCaputo113 said:
So you think we won't get Lollipop until April when we already have a leaked (pretty damn stable) build?? I'm sorry but that is straight up idiotic. We will have Lollipop by the end of Dec-Jan.
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Might not be April but it won't be by February or probably March even.
The key word you said is "Leaked"...
Sprint had 4.4.4 builds in testing for months also, they just don't always leak out.
Just because you have a non-production version doesn't make it magically release sooner.
If you look around you will notice Sprint is generally a tad slower on some releases at times. This is because they like to wait and see what other providers do and also avoid having to do more releases.
Take Verizon S5 for example. It got 4.4.4 a lot sooner vs. we did, but the downfall was it had issues and security holes that they had to go back and patch again with more OTA's.
Sprint waited longer, didn't have to turn around and do all of this.
Waiting longer can often mean a more stable product as it allows other things to mature.
Sprint also generally doesn't like to update an phone right away if a newer model is about to come out with the new stuff also as it could cut into sales.
S5 will get 5.0 but based on how Sprint operates and historical events I don't see them doing it before a new flagship model comes out in which some people may feel they can now hold off longer. The leak FWIW is kind of like a marketing toy. It shows that they are committed to upgrading the OS so people don't do the whole "I'll never use sprint/samsung on sprint again cause they stopped updates". They are doing the updates, just doing it slower.
At the end of the day we are all speculating. You don't know for 100% just as I don't. I'm just saying (in my head at least) my thought makes more "sense".
FWIW I hope I am wrong because like you I own this phone too and want to have the new fancy stuff