I'm coming from the RAZR(xt912) and the droid 4 (xt894) I used safe strap 3.11 pretty simple I could flash whatever with out worry... Well both phones are now pretty much dead so I have to get a new one and I have chosen the M... So been doing a little reading on here.. I see how to root.. It seems as this has an unlockable boot loader I did not know that... I see that you have to unlock the BL and install a recovery then you can flash... Is this like safe strap can I flash ROMs and not worry about brick?Can I have multiple ROMs flashed and be able to alternate between them? I've only ever used the the RAZR and D4... Both with SS... I thank you kindly for your time...
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I believe that there is an exploit to unlock the RAZR M's boot loader now. Allowing you to install a recovery without the need of safe strap. I never had to use safe strap as I had a dev edition which can be unlocked from the moto website.
As for ROM's, I am running Carbon ROM coming from PacMan ROM, and I've never had a brick.
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right - unlocking the bootloader (which takes all of 15 seconds, but be sure to read up on it though) allows XT907 users to install a custom recovery (CWM or TWRP). within these custom recoveries, you can make a nandroid of whichever ROM you want, and switch back and forth between them.
the key benefit of TWRP/CWM over SS is that you don't have to create a ROM slot, thus saving you tons of space.
jco23 said:
right - unlocking the bootloader (which takes all of 15 seconds, but be sure to read up on it though) allows XT907 users to install a custom recovery (CWM or TWRP). within these custom recoveries, you can make a nandroid of whichever ROM you want, and switch back and forth between them.
the key benefit of TWRP/CWM over SS is that you don't have to create a ROM slot, thus saving you tons of space.
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Thank you kindly... I have read up on and understand the process of unlocking and installing the recovery... When you flash a ROM with this method do you still have the stock ROM on the device?
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dbreezy187 said:
Thank you kindly... I have read up on and understand the process of unlocking and installing the recovery... When you flash a ROM with this method do you still have the stock ROM on the device?
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No, the stock ROM will be overwritten.
However, overwriting the section of the phone with Fastboot is nigh impossible, and as long as you can get back into that, you can restore to stock through Matt's 1.20 tool or RSD. I know, I've had to do it
There is also a file of 4.1.2 Stock that you can flash in the Development forum. Going back and forth from backups takes no time at all and I do it all the time. To jump from one to the other takes me maybe 10 minutes. I just keep a backup of any ROMs I want to play with.
Thanks guys.... I haven't saw any bricks posted has it happened to anyone yet...
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i have gotten stuck in boot loops but thats about it and that was a real simple fix
Just got it in bout to get started with it all... Thanks guys...
Wow no captivate keys nor a menu button... I won't know how to function with out it
Or HDMI out bummer
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Backup Stock ROM
I strongly recommend making a backup of your stock Rom before you make any changes. This will allow you to easily flip back to stock if needed.
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I strongly recommend making a backup of your stock Rom before you make any changes. This will allow you to easily flip back to stock if needed.
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Whole heartedly agree on this.
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I have yet to flash a ROM... does any of the current options allow you to modify the soft keys? Rearrange, change color, customize functions use gestures to hide/show and what not? Thank you kindly for your time....
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dbreezy187 said:
I have yet to flash a ROM... does any of the current options allow you to modify the soft keys? Rearrange, change color, customize functions use gestures to hide/show and what not? Thank you kindly for your time....
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The AOSP based ROMs will allow you to do most of these things. I am running Slim Bean with soft keys disabled and pie control enabled.
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The AOSP based ROMs will allow you to do most of these things. I am running Slim Bean with soft keys disabled and pie control enabled.
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those only work with unlocked bootloaders
pbanj said:
those only work with unlocked bootloaders
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Yes...and? Everyone should unlock their bootloader. Safestrap is the easy way out.
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Yes...and? Everyone should unlock their bootloader. Safestrap is the easy way out.
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oh i know, but some people seem to not want to unlock their bootloaders. im not sure why
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oh i know, but some people seem to not want to unlock their bootloaders. im not sure why
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Yeah, true.
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oh i know, but some people seem to not want to unlock their bootloaders. im not sure why
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Because Moo won't honor the warranty any more after that point. Lame, but will keep some people from doing it.
Coronado is dead said:
Because Moo won't honor the warranty any more after that point. Lame, but will keep some people from doing it.
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Technically, rooting it and modifying it will void the warranty. If you want to modify, then the warranty should be last thing on your mind. It's like modding a car. You know it's going to void the warranty, but you do it anyway. Well. I do it anyway.
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Because Moo won't honor the warranty any more after that point. Lame, but will keep some people from doing it.
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Yeah that's what made me wait for a moment...(and the wife busted me) just in case... I have bad luck with phones... went through 5 droid 4's on warranty replacement due to bad ear piece speakers... haven't really read about defects in the device yet I'm thinking I'm good to go ... have noticed the screen flicker tho a few forums suggests its the kernel so I'm guessing it'll be gone in a flash... probably gonna give it a full week continue to educate my self on the device more
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Yeah that's what made me wait for a moment...(and the wife busted me) just in case... I have bad luck with phones... went through 5 droid 4's on warranty replacement due to bad ear piece speakers... haven't really read about defects in the device yet I'm thinking I'm good to go ... have noticed the screen flicker tho a few forums suggests its the kernel so I'm guessing it'll be gone in a flash... probably gonna give it a full week continue to educate my self on the device more
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I think the warranty void issue only applies to software related stuff. if there is something wrong with the hardware, then they'll still honor that.
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Hi, I found this accidentally. I'm on 2.3.4 stock rooted with locked bootloader.
1. You must have root.
2. Install Rom Manager from Market
3. Open Rom Manager and flash ClockworkMod Recovery
4. Turn off you phone and connect to the wall outlet charger and its going to bypass bootloader and open recovery
That's all I found it by accident
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This isn't news, clockworkmod is on most people's phones here, from a few different sources. Did you know you can install themes, radios, fonts, bootanimations, all kinds of things from recovery? Check out the development forum.
Yes but you don't need to unlock the bootloader to install rom's.
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Incorrect.
If you try flashing a ROM right now you will brick your phone. We could get into a bootstrap recovery before the bootloader was unlocked, but if you installed a different system the phone would catch that upon next boot and won't start up. I believe it's at least something like that... You need an unlocked bootloader, basically!
If I install a different rom its not going to boot in to the rom? Why not?
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Because your bootloader isn't unlocked lol, that's the whole point of the locked bootloader.
Why don't you just unlock it so that you CAN install custom ROMs?
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If I install a different rom its not going to boot in to the rom? Why not?
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ROM Manager installs recovery over the stock recovery, which is in the fastboot menu prior to loading the boot image. You can get into stock recovery prior to booting, but it basically does nothing. The ROM Manager recovery is semi-functional but doesn't wipe anything, which fails with installing. Romracer's recovery appears to be fully functional. After anything is installed in recovery, you will need to reboot system to initiate the bootloader. The bootloader has to load the kernel as well as the system/ROM for you to get into the environment. The bootloader checks that the signatures of the kernel and ROM match what it is expecting to see or you will get a brick. Unlocking the bootloader still loads the bootloader, but avoids the checking of signatures of kernel or ROM, if I understand correctly.
Ok but its going to let me install a rom, isn't the bootloader spouse to stop it from installing?
I just made a backup and it let me.
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Ok but its going to let me install a rom, isn't the bootloader spouse to stop it from installing?
I just made a backup and it let me.
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That's not good.
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That's not good.
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Since you say you are locked, and you installed a ROM from ROM Manager, hope that you can get into RSD since you seem insistent on booting this up.
Sorry whats RSD? And why I need that?
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Search before do a stupid thing. Because if you brick yoyr device, and you will.....you will start blaim xda forum and devs
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Why im going to blame ? Nobody. Told me to do anything.
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Sorry whats RSD? And why I need that?
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RSD Lite is Moto software, not for public use but leaked, that is needed for loading stock boot files (SBF). Check the development forum for all details about what you are doing/about to do/have done.
Thanx
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samomamo said:
Sorry whats RSD? And why I need that?
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STOP doing ANYTHING to your phone RIGHT NOW. take some time to read several of the threads on the development forum and verse yourself in what RSD, SBF, fast boot, recovery, boot loaders and pudding are. there are LOTS of guides for beginners on how to change ROMs on the phone. what you're doing is NOT one of them.
if you do anything else with your phone right now without reading up and knowing what you're doing, you WILL **** up your phone.
This seems to be a troll attempt or an attempt to look really stupid, either way, the user doesn't seem to want to hear out anyone telling him to stop what he's doing, so I say just let him figure it out the hard way.
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That's not good.
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+ 1 uh ohhhh
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Sergent00stupid did you see me not agreeing with anyone?
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Hey everyone.
I have read alot of threads relating to the different ways to flash my samsung fascinate. They are all pretty easy to understand.
But i have a tablet, a Zenithink C91, It came with 2.3 and updates have been released from the manufacturer regularly.
The tablet comes rooted. On my tablet, when i reload, or upgradem i simply put the upgraded ROM zip on the SD card, hold the 3 buttons and it finds, loads and reboots all in one operation.
Why isnt the process the same on the fascinate? i mean once the phone is rooted, Why cant you just load a jellybeen ROM zip on the SD card and use the 3 button method.
I guess im not making the connection as to why its so much more complicated for the phone. I can reload 2.3 from 4.0, upgrade 2.3 to 4.0 without doing anything but putting the file on the sd card.
Is this because the updates are straight from the manu and for that specific model?
Hope that doesnt sound to stupid. Thank you for any help. Love the work bein done i try to donate much as poss.
Fry
for the fascinate you can actually view, select and flash more than once thing at once in recovery. we can't use the 3 button method due to a bug but you can boot into CWM using apps or a computer and then browse all your files and flash whatever you want. It isn't as simple but gives you a lot more freedom and options in how you do things.
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sageDieu said:
for the fascinate you can actually view, select and flash more than once thing at once in recovery. we can't use the 3 button method due to a bug but you can boot into CWM using apps or a computer and then browse all your files and flash whatever you want. It isn't as simple but gives you a lot more freedom and options in how you do things.
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Jt literally just fixed that a day or so ago. Lol. so it'll come soon enough.
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times_infinity said:
Jt literally just fixed that a day or so ago. Lol. so it'll come soon enough.
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For the fascinate you can actually view, select and flash more than once thing at once in recovery. we can't use the 3 button method due to a bug but you can boot into CWM using apps or a computer and then browse all your files and flash whatever you want. It isn't as simple but gives you a lot more freedom and options in how you do things.
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Thank you guys for the replys.
Is it the boot loop bug ur referring to for the 3 button method?
I guess if that is fixed the phone could be flashed alot like the tab then right?
What will have the JT fix when its released?
?
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?
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yes
Do I need to unlock the boot loader on the s4 to be able to install a custom recovery? Can I just install cwm from the the playstore and flash from the app? My s4 is rooted?
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webbie2 said:
Do I need to unlock the boot loader on the s4 to be able to install a custom recovery? Can I just install cwm from the the playstore and flash from the app? My s4 is rooted?
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Bootloader is locked. Use Loki from the Original Development section to install a custom recovery.
Also use the search funcution on these forums, please. This is a very common question.
Search and read. Everything you've asked has already been answered.
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webbie2 said:
Do I need to unlock the boot loader on the s4 to be able to install a custom recovery? Can I just install cwm from the the playstore and flash from the app? My s4 is rooted?
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DONT DO ANYTHING right now. READ, READ, READ, READ, READ. Next week when you have READ every post in development and original development about bootloader, loki, recovery, and kernels then and only then you should proceed. After you READ feel free to ask questions on things you don't understand.
It is easy to tell when some one has read and does not understand vs when some one is to lazy to even read.
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webbie2 said:
Do I need to unlock the boot loader on the s4 to be able to install a custom recovery? Can I just install cwm from the the playstore and flash from the app? My s4 is rooted?
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Easiest way ive found to add a custom recovery is through the goo.im app. Cant get any easier then that
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DONT DO ANYTHING right now. READ, READ, READ, READ, READ. Next week when you have READ every post in development and original development about bootloader, loki, recovery, and kernels then and only then you should proceed. After you READ feel free to ask questions on things you don't understand.
It is easy to tell when some one has read and does not understand vs when some one is to lazy to even read.
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Thank you for your words of wisdom. It's always great to get such positive feed back. I have rooted and rom'ed a whole bunch of phones and unlocked boot loaders etc. I'm just a little nervous to do it to my brand new phone and I was just looking for a little guidance. Im glad that you took the time to rip me apart for making one post instead of pushing me in the right direction. It take more time to write a negative response than to just link me I guess. I will READ, READ, READ, and READ before I ever post again.
webbie2 said:
Thank you for your words of wisdom. It's always great to get such positive feed back. I have rooted and rom'ed a whole bunch of phones and unlocked boot loaders etc. I'm just a little nervous to do it to my brand new phone and I was just looking for a little guidance. Im glad that you took the time to rip me apart for making one post instead of pushing me in the right direction. It take more time to write a negative response than to just link me I guess. I will READ, READ, READ, and READ before I ever post again.
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Good, you'll be following rule #1.
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He is right though. Just because you have done it before on other devices does NLRB mean you know what your doing know this device. Each Android device you get will even some differently when it come to boot loaders, root and flashing roms. He is just trying to help save you from getting bricked and then being stuck with no warranty.
Wayne Tech Nexus
What is required to (firmware version) root, unlock and flash a custom recovery?
I've looked here in the forums but I couldn't find anything. Unless if I'm blind as a bat. Haha.
But seriously.
Thank you anyone who helps out.
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mike253 said:
What is required to (firmware version) root, unlock and flash a custom recovery?
I've looked here in the forums but I couldn't find anything. Unless if I'm blind as a bat. Haha.
But seriously.
Thank you anyone who helps out.
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Update to the official 4.1.2, use Matt's 1.20 utility to root, unlock, and flash a recovery.
Welcome to the club
I'm already at 4.1.2 so I'll continue, anything else I need?
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Matts utility will do all the work for you. Just make sure you have a full battery charge.
I did it. Its unlocked and currently running the latest Cm10.1.
Wish I could change the start up screen though. Then again I don't really restart my phone that often.
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mike253 said:
I did it. Its unlocked and currently running the latest Cm10.1.
Wish I could change the start up screen though. Then again I don't really restart my phone that often.
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are you talking about the boot image that nags about the unlocked bootloader?
This isn't my own work but it's a goodie. Flash it in recovery
Pulled link. didn't feel right about posting without giving proper credit and I don't remember where I got it
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if it is the boot image u want to change http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901444 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2340764
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are you talking about the boot image that nags about the unlocked bootloader?
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Yeah lol.
PantherVT said:
This isn't my own work but it's a goodie. Flash it in recovery
Pulled link. didn't feel right about posting without giving proper credit and I don't remember where I got it
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The boot image is what you were talking about correct?
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if it is the boot image u want to change http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901444 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2340764
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Thanks man. It'll come in useful later Lol.
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Just purchased my G2 yesterday and am shocked at the amount of development being done. So far I am loving it. Speed and data for me are insane. I'm already rooted however still researching recovery options. Something is telling me this phone is a pain to flash. But Evert if that is the case the HTC one S was a pain also and there was still tons of development being done. I'm I missing something?
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Chris Boyer said:
I'm already rooted however still researching recovery options. Something is telling me this phone is a pain to flash.
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Just throw TWRP or CWM on it and get started. It's as simple as that. I have flashed many times already.
This is the simplest phone phone ever had.
Easy to root and easy to flash.
Just make sure read on it before you do anything.
Right know I'm on pa-4.4.km.
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Agreed. Development on the G2 is amazing, the scene seems even hotter than when the Gnex came out.
My Note 3 is going on Swappa tonight!
Note 3= Dissapointment & Development Joke.
LG is really making magic happen latley.
I appreciate everyone's input. Don't get me wrong I'm loving so far. I'm just accustomed to more Roms with different ports . picking up the HTC one today. Love new toys
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My question is did anyone found a way to remove that ROOTED text when you boot into download mode after going back to stock? I meant after unrooting by flashing back lg stock firmware using the ODIN or something like that.
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My question is did anyone found a way to remove that ROOTED text when you boot into download mode after going back to stock? I meant after unrooting by flashing back lg stock firmware using the ODIN or something like that.
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No
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superbg said:
My question is did anyone found a way to remove that ROOTED text when you boot into download mode after going back to stock? I meant after unrooting by flashing back lg stock firmware using the ODIN or something like that.
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Based on my experience after flash stock rom, at download mode root text is gone, and changed to unroot.
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Okay, I'm still confused by the lack of ROMs available. No ports. Very few mods. Am I missing something? This is just my observation and not a judgment
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Chris Boyer said:
Okay, I'm still confused by the lack of ROMs available. No ports. Very few mods. Am I missing something? This is just my observation and not a judgment
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Agreed. Especially the VS980. Development has been very slow and there are only a handful of 4.4 ROMs for it. The casual flashers will continue to praise the "quick development", but the avid crack flashers are, I'm sure, disappointed by the slow updates.
Also just my thoughts and observation. I support the ROMs I use by donating, but I don't know how to to develop.
There's only a handful of 4.4 ROMs for every phone. Carbon, AOKP and PAC aren't doing many nightlys now because of the 4.3 to 4.4 switch. When they get ROMs more stable for us we'll see more of them rolling out.