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linux for our XDAII

im lookinf for a gnu linux for our XDAII. anyone know something?
i hope yours answers.
i need a gnu linux ofr pda at least.

jubey said:
im lookinf for a gnu linux for our XDAII. anyone know something?
i hope yours answers.
i need a gnu linux ofr pda at least.
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Hi, do you found any linux for XDAII?! I want Linux too...

hmm.. project Xanadux?

unapproachable2kx said:
hmm.. project Xanadux?
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But Xanadux is death... Or not?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Xanadux is NOT dead. Sorry for shouting but this is important
Xanadux is alive but yes, it is lacking capable developers. If you want to volunteer have a look at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaProjects.
Matthias

noone said:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Xanadux is NOT dead. Sorry for shouting but this is important
Xanadux is alive but yes, it is lacking capable developers. If you want to volunteer have a look at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaProjects.
Matthias
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And is usable? Pages of Xanadux are very unnoticed... :roll:

One of the problems we encountered during development was the need to switch between wince and linux (as long as you don't have a spare xda for development). This is why we concentrated on basic functionality, i.e. screen, buttons and touchscreen. This should be finished until the end of 2004. In combination with the software available from the handhelds.org project this would give us a working system. The next goals were then power management, sound and phone functionality. Research on most of these is almost complete, so we just need a handful of capable coders.
Cheers
Matthias

New reliance
noone said:
One of the problems we encountered during development was the need to switch between wince and linux (as long as you don't have a spare xda for development). This is why we concentrated on basic functionality, i.e. screen, buttons and touchscreen. This should be finished until the end of 2004. In combination with the software available from the handhelds.org project this would give us a working system. The next goals were then power management, sound and phone functionality. Research on most of these is almost complete, so we just need a handful of capable coders.
Cheers
Matthias
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Thanks a lot :wink:
This is new reliance for me and the best message of last two weeks :lol: "finished until the end 2004" - I tips february 2005 - but it is a good message... very good I'm hearty
Kato

Visual basic for Android

A new development tool is now available for Android devices: Basic4android.
Basic4android syntax is similar to Visual Basic with support for objects.
Basic4android includes a GUI designer that supports multiple screens and resolutions.
I believe that this tool is much simpler to start with than Eclipse + Java.
Compiled applications are regular APK files, and the performance is similar to Java performance.
You can see more information here: basic4ppc[dot]com

Does it have a tutorial or may some one leave a brief training here?

thanks for finding something like this. I've always wanted to create my own apps and now I can and with this program it looks pretty good.

Does it have a tutorial or may some one leave a brief training here?
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There are several tutorials in the documentation center.
basic4ppc[dot]com/android/documentation.html
Sorry that I cannot post working links...

Erel said:
There are several tutorials in the documentation center.
basic4ppc[dot]com/android/documentation.html
Sorry that I cannot post working links...
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Godsend. I've been self-learning Java this week and slowing developing my first two apps using Eclipse. I've got a good grasp of the language but I was always better with vb.
Thanks heaps

I had Basic4PPC for WM Development, then Android came along. I'm glad the author has released Basic4Android as well!
Doug

Looks very promising!! Though I would have liked to see C# instead of visual basic coding. I can't even remember it anymore. It's been so long since I have used visual basic!! Lol. Maybe it's time to study up. I have refused to use have for a number of reasons!
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Does anyone have now experiences with that programm? I have an application written in VB for Windows Mobile. I want to change that to Android.
Would be nice to get some information before i buy this tool.

Wow, this looks interesting. Might pick this up
Edit: wow this was an old topic..
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I tried it, seems to hard to get it to run any app, has a glitch

I tried it, seems to hard to get it to run any app, has a glitch
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It shouldn't be difficult. If you like you can post this issue in Basic4android forums. I'm sure that it will be solvable.

I use mostly b4a, it is very simple and there is a lot of help on the forums, and people developing libraries and code classes.
I am learning on android studio now, but I have been happy developing with b4a!

[M10Tools] M10Tools is going OpenSource, helpers needed

Hey guys,
today I come to you with good and bad news.
Bad news first: Flemmard decided finally, that he hasn't got enough time anymore to support and develop M10Tools fulltime.
That means, he is quitting the main development. This is very unfortunate because Flemmard and I are the only two person who actually know how to reverse engineere the *.m10 format.
Therefore I am searching a new developer now, who can take Flemmard's part over.
And here comes the good news: The next version is going to be OpenSource (most likely some kind of GPL).
(This doesn't include the upcoming Virtuous Ten Studio, only the decoder/encoder for the m10 files itself)
Now let's get to the actual search. The requirements are quite hard:
We search (Flemmard will be still here as some kind of help) one or two very experienced C# or C++ developers with the following requirements:
Very good experience in C# and/or C++
Windows dev of course
Experience with reading/writing binary data would be helpful
Experience with reverse engineering file formats would be also helpful
Good spoken english required (German would be nice too)
Communication is done via either IRC or Skype
Development uses SVN, so knowledge about SVN and how it works is quite helpful
Having a HTC phone with a sense 3.0/3.5 ROM is strongly advised. You don't totally need it, but it helps a lot
Now lets come to the tasks that needs to be done and the usual workflow
We do know everything important about the m10 file format, so the hard work is already done
But you still WILL be starring at your hexeditor four hours (no joke here), so if you don't like digging through hexcodes you are totally wrong here
This is not a halftime job. Writing such a decider/encoder requires quite a bit of spare time
Once I explained you most of the things we know about m10 formats, YOU will start writing a parser for those files. This is much trial and error.
The time will come where you understand the basics of the format. Then you need to finish that decoder/encoder and start working on the addtional things (mainly image decoding/encoding)
Image decoding: The images saved in m10 have different special file formats. We do know how to decode them. There is just ONE format that needs further research.
One last thing: Flemmard won't give out his current source code. We have to accept that.
As I am too lazy to put up another G-Forms thing, I'd just like you to answer here in that post if you are interested in becoming a main m10tools dev.
Flemmard and me had a great time developing this tool, so I guess this will repeat with the new guy(s).

Did you ever speak to THIS guy?

Dunc001 said:
Did you ever speak to THIS guy?
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Nope, everyone should have a chance of getting in here if he is still interested, he can just post here

This is sad for our HTCs , I used to build some themes but HTC new m10 files are as bad as locking the bootloader!
Why the hell do they play like that?

Unfortunate that flemmard can't keep putting his time on this but we all understand that all devs do what they do here out of their passion and hobby not because they have to do it.
That being said, I will more than happy to help you guys here. I have been a c# developer since .net 1.0 and work with svn day in and day out. As far as reverse engineering goes, I haven't worked with hex editor much but I'm pretty comfortable with IL. Though I know we cant compare binaries with IL. Please pm me if you would like to know anything else.

vegetaleb said:
This is sad for our HTCs , I used to build some themes but HTC new m10 files are as bad as locking the bootloader!
Why the hell do they play like that?
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because they hate people like us, messing with their files prolly
I'd say : it's as bad as a locked bootloader AND closed source camera drivers
HTC is taking a piss out of Android and open source, unfortunatly their phones have the best build quality, otherwise i would own a sony or samsung phone ...

I have a large experience on C++, and free time too
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i lack on those three requirements
Experience with reading/writing binary data would be helpful
Experience with reverse engineering file formats would be also helpful
Having a HTC phone with a sense 3.0/3.5 ROM is strongly advised. You don't totally need it, but it helps a lot

traduz said:
I have a large experience on C++, and free time too
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i lack on those three requirements
Experience with reading/writing binary data would be helpful
Experience with reverse engineering file formats would be also helpful
Having a HTC phone with a sense 3.0/3.5 ROM is strongly advised. You don't totally need it, but it helps a lot
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Can you please come to IRC? (#vts-dev on Freenode)

im a windows dev with some spare time but i cant make any promises.
i have experience reading/writing binary data but not with reversing file format.
and a spare desire z
i have been following your dev work on irc for a while

I am hoping to help!
Come to #vts-dev and #m10tools on freenode irc!

What is M10(Tools)? Can you explain?

mesaj said:
What is M10(Tools)? Can you explain?
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look this:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/update-m10-file-tools-finally-released/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13407763

I do not have experience in C. I have experience with free time at work (midnight shifts) and looking at hex code most nights. I would love to help when and where I can with that portion of it. I also have an HTC EVO 3D (Sprint CDMA, not rooted, has 1.50 hboot which I am trying to bypass), an HTC Thunderbolt (Verizon & rooted & primary phone), and an old HTC HD2 which has had android and winmo, all of those are available for testing if need be.

Good to see M10Tools is coming back hope to see OSX and Sense 3.5 support soon. Thanks so much for all the work you (Diamondback) and Flemmard did and hopefully will continue. You make it easier for us to theme Sense and we are grateful for all of the work you have done for us.

sweet hopefully m10 tools will make a comeback!

Wondering if you guys ever found the extra help you were looking for? I love m10 editor

Planning to learn coding games for android - need help

I would love to create an android game. So I am planning to start learning it.
I have coded an application already and I think I know the basics. So now I want to get into game programming which is too complex if I heard it right.
I would like my fellow developers who have experience in coding games to give me some links and tutorials which will come handy for newbie like me.
Thanks in advance!

obscurant1st said:
I would love to create an android game. So I am planning to start learning it.
I have coded an application already and I think I know the basics. So now I want to get into game programming which is too complex if I heard it right.
I would like my fellow developers who have experience in coding games to give me some links and tutorials which will come handy for newbie like me.
Thanks in advance!
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I think the best way to learn any new area of software development is to get stuck into a project. I've been working in various embedded and real-time environments for years but a couple of years ago myself and a couple of mates decided to try to make a game. At the time we wanted to learn C# so we dived into the XNA framework & made something that ran on Windows & XBox. It was never released, but I learned a lot of new stuff. Started with their tutorials and went from there. I can't help with links and so on for Android but don't be put off by the idea that games are too complex - the first software job I ever did was on a full size submarine simulator for the Navy & that really was complicated!

I think that this is a very good piece of advice: http://www.raywenderlich.com/12065/how-to-create-a-simple-android-game
It helped me very much.

Coding games has become very easy these days thanks to the superb engines but some do come at a premium price
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sak-venom1997 said:
Coding games has become very easy these days thanks to the superb engines but some do come at a premium price
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I agree. But Andengine is free and very good. Look at the link I gave above.

I used Unity3D for my class project before. It's very nice and easy to use. You should check it out

there is a great guide on xda: link.

ciao99 said:
there is a great guide on xda: link.
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Thanks I have started learning!

Also another great resource is the new Boston. You can see them here and select Java Game Development. http://thenewboston.org/tutorials.php
You can also learn regular Java and Android development on that Site!
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When I started to learn android game developing I found some very useful tutorials at: obviam.net. Look for the series 'Getting started in android development with libgdx'.
This series uses the framework libGDX, which enables you to write your game once and easily port it to many different platforms.

Fíghter02 said:
When I started to learn android game developing I found some very useful tutorials at: obviam.net. Look for the series 'Getting started in android development with libgdx'.
This series uses the framework libGDX, which enables you to write your game once and easily port it to many different platforms.
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I totally support this. I created my first Android game (Rock Ninja) with no previous game development experience thanks to the awesome Libgdx framework/community.

Yeah, LibGDX great thing and very easy to learn on GoogleCode's wiki page by simply reading topics one by one. Of course if you are familiar with java first

I'm also member of libGDX community, even helped to fix some bugs in particle editor. But after deeper look at this engine, you find some problems in deployment on other platforms. So, I'm looking at the Unity 3d now, besides it became free for android and iOS version.

Widesteppe said:
I'm also member of libGDX community, even helped to fix some bugs in particle editor. But after deeper look at this engine, you find some problems in deployment on other platforms. So, I'm looking at the Unity 3d now, besides it became free for android and iOS version.
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True, iOS is still work in progress with Libgdx. Good news is that the new RoboVM backend(that will replace Monotouch/Xamarin) is looking really promising and a first app has already been successfully published to the Appstore.

I have a decent stash of books on mobile development. I would start with either monogame, libGDX(provided you know openGL), AndEngine, Unity3D, or use cross platform tools that turn HTML5/CSS3/Javascript into native code. Give me a PM if you need anything, best of luck :good:

Monkey_King said:
I have a decent stash of books on mobile development. I would start with either monogame, libGDX(provided you know openGL), AndEngine, Unity3D, or use cross platform tools that turn HTML5/CSS3/Javascript into native code. Give me a PM if you need anything, best of luck :good:
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You don't need any knowledge of OpenGL for Libgdx, everything is abstracted out for you.

ob1cat said:
You don't need any knowledge of OpenGL for Libgdx, everything is abstracted out for you.
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Isn't the GLSL used in LibGDX?

Monkey_King said:
Isn't the GLSL used in LibGDX?
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Internally yes, but it's abstracted by the framework for you not to need to worry about it.

Advise needed: How do I go about developing my first android app ?

Hi,
I am a recently laid off 30 year old SAP consultant from India. Over the last few weeks, I have been reading about the wonderful world of android apps. There is a great opportunity in India for android apps as millions of smart phones are sold every year. I have decided on building apps targeted at the Indian stock market - like stock screeners, that help people reach a proper investment decision. I want to make money out of my apps, so I want then to be fairly professional so that somebody buying them wont feel cheated. Also, there are not many (any) stock screener apps targeted at Indian stock market. So there is an opportunity there and I want this idea to be my first.
But how do I go about it ? I learnt Java at college, 10 years ago. My Java is highly amateurish even after I refreshed it over the last few weeks.I have bought a book on MIT App Inventor...and developed a few simple example apps already and tested them on my mobile. I am not yet sure App Inventor can help me develop more complex apps like the one I mentioned above.
So, I am desperately looking for advise from people who have been there, done that. How do I go about developing my first app ? Should I go about it the hard way - learn Java better ? Read a book on Android application development ? Build Web Apps using HTML5, JavaScript, JQuery ? Or stick to MIT App Inventor ? Try some app builder development tool like Tiggzi, Codiqa or Kinvey ?
I really need your advise as I really need to develop something quickly and make money out of it. :fingers-crossed:

Hi!
As far as i can help....i made some apps, some of them native with Java and others with HTML5.
From my experience, if you plan to make somekind of "atlas app (like wikipedia)" or not very user interface intensive or if you already know html5+css+javascript, you could go with html5, but i will always recomend native with Java as you have much more control over you app.
Anyway, if starting from 0, go for Java (Android SDK) get any tutorial around the web, there are tons of them, some better than others ofc, and free.
Hope you find your way to go!
good luck!

forgin said:
Hi!
As far as i can help....i made some apps, some of them native with Java and others with HTML5.
From my experience, if you plan to make somekind of "atlas app (like wikipedia)" or not very user interface intensive or if you already know html5+css+javascript, you could go with html5, but i will always recomend native with Java as you have much more control over you app.
Anyway, if starting from 0, go for Java (Android SDK) get any tutorial around the web, there are tons of them, some better than others ofc, and free.
Hope you find your way to go!
good luck!
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Thanks for that. But may I also know your opinion on MIT App Inventor ?

I started with App Inventor and quickly out grew it. Using java will make it easier to move on to complex apps or add more complexity to any current ones.

RedDevil99025 said:
Thanks for that. But may I also know your opinion on MIT App Inventor ?
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I personally wouldnt use app inventor nor any other kind of "easy app maker"

I would not use the inventor, too.
I recommend reading the Head's First Java books (skip the UI part) and for Android the Vogella tutorials.
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(Btw, you cannot build an app quickly to make big money. If you want to be successful, you need to spend a lot of time on development.)

RedDevil99025 said:
Hi,
I am a recently laid off 30 year old SAP consultant from India. Over the last few weeks, I have been reading about the wonderful world of android apps. There is a great opportunity in India for android apps as millions of smart phones are sold every year. I have decided on building apps targeted at the Indian stock market - like stock screeners, that help people reach a proper investment decision. I want to make money out of my apps, so I want then to be fairly professional so that somebody buying them wont feel cheated. Also, there are not many (any) stock screener apps targeted at Indian stock market. So there is an opportunity there and I want this idea to be my first.
But how do I go about it ? I learnt Java at college, 10 years ago. My Java is highly amateurish even after I refreshed it over the last few weeks.I have bought a book on MIT App Inventor...and developed a few simple example apps already and tested them on my mobile. I am not yet sure App Inventor can help me develop more complex apps like the one I mentioned above.
So, I am desperately looking for advise from people who have been there, done that. How do I go about developing my first app ? Should I go about it the hard way - learn Java better ? Read a book on Android application development ? Build Web Apps using HTML5, JavaScript, JQuery ? Or stick to MIT App Inventor ? Try some app builder development tool like Tiggzi, Codiqa or Kinvey ?
I really need your advise as I really need to develop something quickly and make money out of it. :fingers-crossed:
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My Hibernate trainer quoted the following "You guys are brought up with IDE we used to compile on console". My sincere suggestion even in this RAPID developmental technologies around refresh your "Java skills" on console (DOS or Unix your wish) and make use of Eclipse IDE with Android SDK plugins for fast development. That would do. Start with Eclipse Helios and Google Android SDK and AVDs. Here you go... http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
I have developed a couple of very good apps and I use one myself but Google play store expects payment to become one of their developers Why should I pay for my own app to releasing to public for free? I choose XDA let them validate and evaluate my apps and enjoy. Let us CJava++++
The day is not far may be you get donated enough expand your ideas.

My advice is - don't read books, just start coding. A year ago I knew absolutely nothing about Java or Android. Find a webpage with sample android Activity. Start spawning your code from there. That's how I did it. Then lear something about deriving from View class... and so on...

Hey guys, thank you for all the advise. I will go through what each one of you has said and do things systematically.....I am basically starting from zero......so, lets see how far I go....and I will inform you guys about my progress and seek guidance from you.
Thanks again.

developer.android.com
Best site there is to start it has a training part and other examples. I'd personally work my way up from there if I was starting now.

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Best site there is to start it has a training part and other examples. I'd personally work my way up from there if I was starting now.
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I didn't like the site when I started. In my opinion it is too difficult for beginners.

Better now
nikwen said:
I didn't like the site when I started. In my opinion it is too difficult for beginners.
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Yea it wasn't always good but now they have a good training part + they provide sample code that you can run and fiddle with

It has a couple good step by step stuff, but its mostly "add this code" and has snippets that don't often make sense till you have a decent understanding of the rest of the code.