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[Q] Defy+ - Help choosing CM7 ROM (Android 2.3.4)

I own a Defy+ with Android 2.3.4 (4.5.1-134_DFP-89) branded by Vodafone-Italy.
I would like to run a CM7 ROM without flashing kernel as I read that flashing kernel 2.3.6 is a one way operation and no downgrade is possible.
I read in other thread that this WhiteRabbit ROM which is flashable but uses GO Launcher that I do not like.
Are there other CM7 ROMs working with Defy+ and with less customization (CM7 "pure" would be great but I think epsilon3 ROMs are 2.3.6 kernel only)?
Thanks and sorry for being noob

defy+ cm7.2 nightlies for 2.3.4
If you want pure CM7.2 you could actually use epsylon's defy+ nightly builds
I suggest new CM7.2 Nightly build for defy+
Epsylon7 currently makes Cm7.2 defy+ nightly builds WITHOUT Kernel so that they are compatible with most (all?) current defy+ phones (i.e android 2.3.4 / 2.3.5 / 2.3.6).
from this great thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1458729 i found:
12-01-27 Epsylon7/Defy+:
cm72-120127.0846-NIGHTLY-Defy+ link: http://www.defy-cm.net/defy_plus-cm7-nightly/
and AL's posted Defy+ fixes for camera and battery etc http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ostcount=15069
I flashed those over my stock Defy+ 2.3.4 build 4.5.1-134_DFP-74
Remember to make nandroid backup etc ... study this defy FAQ/guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
for Rooting I used SuperOneClickv2.3.3-ShortFuse
I used 2ndInit v2.0 from here (it has integrated busybox and CWM aka ClockWorkMod):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12837303
Then i installed the epsylon cm7.2 defy+ nightly directly over my stock rom using "2) How can I install CM7.1?" in this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065798)
have fun!
p.s. a lot of different roms can be tried without having to upgrade SBF and blow those damned efuses.. do some reading around here on fixed SBFs and nandroid backups and you will understand more

Thanks for suggestions. I already have CWR and Snd Init. I will try CM in the weekend.
EDIT: writing from CM72, I could not resist. At a quick look... it is another phone
Some occasional app crash, but works great.
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A little update and a big thanks.
Everything works fine here on CM 7.2.
The difference in fastness of CM is impressive, camera works and battery charges to 100%. It seems CM consumes a bit more battery but it worthes it.
The only feature which is significantly worse than the original are the vocal commands which does not understand italian at all, but the applications itself is ok.
I will investigate on that.
Does anybody know if CM 7.2 (whenever it will be out) will OFFICIALLY support Defy+?
I could not find anything neither here nor on CM forums.
Stock - Cyanogenmod 7.2

yes from what i understand the CM7.2 Nigtlies will become official when once they are stable Epsylon/Quarx (and maniac103 ?) are working as part of official CM team..

hi guys!
i have a annoying issue with this nightly version(cm72-120127.0846-NIGHTLY-Defy+). my wifi shot dawn after ~20 min, when im not using my phone (i dont switch on the screen) its a bug or thers a setting for solve that problem?
thanks!
ps: sry for my english, im kinda bigginer

UncleDan said:
Everything works fine here on CM 7.2.
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It works fine if I start from 2.3.6? I've got me too the MB526 form Vodafone (si sono italiano pure io ).
What do you think about this room after 2 days? Yes, it's not a long time...but...i cloud not resist me too!!!!!!!

I don't know coming from 2.3.6, but coming from 2.3.4 I was really impressed.
PROs:
- phone is much more responsive
- switching wifi and silent mode on/off very fast and no need to confirm which wlan each time
- I got rid of Motoblur (common inbox is awful)
- audio volume increased
VSs:
- some occasional app crash
- camera works but the impression is a little less quality
- original vocal commands worked much better
From what I understood 2.3.6 should be ok as you don't flash kernel, but backup backup and backup again!
@lord: if the phone is idle why you need wifi? I would not notice that, but I will take a look.
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does not work..
slstr said:
If you want pure CM7.2 you could actually use epsylon's defy+ nightly builds
I suggest new CM7.2 Nightly build for defy+
Epsylon7 currently makes Cm7.2 defy+ nightly builds WITHOUT Kernel so that they are compatible with most (all?) current defy+ phones (i.e android 2.3.4 / 2.3.5 / 2.3.6).
from this great thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1458729 i found:
12-01-27 Epsylon7/Defy+:
cm72-120127.0846-NIGHTLY-Defy+ link: http://www.defy-cm.net/defy_plus-cm7-nightly/
and AL's posted Defy+ fixes for camera and battery etc http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ostcount=15069
I flashed those over my stock Defy+ 2.3.4 build 4.5.1-134_DFP-74
Remember to make nandroid backup etc ... study this defy FAQ/guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
for Rooting I used SuperOneClickv2.3.3-ShortFuse
I used 2ndInit v2.0 from here (it has integrated busybox and CWM aka ClockWorkMod):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12837303
Then i installed the epsylon cm7.2 defy+ nightly directly over my stock rom using "2) How can I install CM7.1?" in this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065798)
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Hi your posts were very helpfull to me, cause you have the same phone and build as I do. However, installing a CM7.2 on my Defy+ is still unsuccesfull.. As you said, I did not install a different SBF, but root my phone, install 2ndinit an made a nandroid backup (which I am now restoring after a failed ROM load )
I follow the steps in the topic you gave, but the problem is that my 2ndinit (CMW) says: "E:/Can't open /tmp/recovery.log" when I load the zip file from my SD card (after wiping cache and data). Pretty annoying. I tried now with "cm72.120127.0846-Nightly-Defy+" and a non Defy+ and more recent one: "CM72-20120304-NIGHTLY-Defy.zip"
Have been googling the error message, but most people say it happens when the wrong CM is used (not for Defy+) but I am doing that right..

Which version of CWM did you install?
After you install 2nd init for defy and open the app there are two options:
Stable recovery
Latest recovery.
I think you installed the stable recovery. If yes, now try installing the Latest recovery and install CM7. If no may be we will have to figure out something else!

I did choose the stable version indeed 0.6.7.
Now i did uninstall it and installed the latest 1.0.7, but when I reboot my phone it won't get into the boot menu but just boots into android. Tried it several times, but only with 0.6.7 I seem to be able to get in the menu

I have white rabbit 1.3 right now and it came with a bunch of cool customizing installation options though aroma, including ICS style which runs ADW instead of GO, much cleaner/faster, also my battery life is awesome. or you could download CM7 Barebones Jordan and build your own. I'm pretty sure I found both ROMs somewhere in these pages.

Bigbabyjesus said:
I have white rabbit 1.3 right now and it came with a bunch of cool customizing installation options though aroma, including ICS style which runs ADW instead of GO, much cleaner/faster, also my battery life is awesome. or you could download CM7 Barebones Jordan and build your own. I'm pretty sure I found both ROMs somewhere in these pages.
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And 1.4 coming today or tomorrow
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[Q] Battery Life on CM7.1 Stable

Hello,
Using CM7.1 jordan stable on my MB525 Red Lens. Everything is working perfectly, but i have some pretty nasty battery uptimes. I charged the phone to 100% last night, the moment i unplug it i already have 99%, and after 8 hours spent with the phone unplugged while i was sleeping overnight, it went down to 46%. Any ideas as to why this happens and what i can do to tame it?
Thanks.

This is nasty.did you calibrated the battery after you installed cm7?
I too have red lens and running 1403 quarx defy + build with Walter 4.5.3-109 kernel which gives best battery life. The same kernel is used in ms2 ginger 3.0 which is known to have best battery.
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Running kernel 2.6.32.9-gb08c3c8, EPU93 baseband. I have not calibrated, but after reading around on the forums it looks like it's not much use. Or is it? I installed the calibrator, i will let the phone power down completely and then will charge up to 100% and recalibrate. Any other advice that might be useful?
Thanks.

Since your defy is red lens I would suggest you to flash defy + builds. You can use latest quarx 0316 cm72 defy + build and flash walter79 4.5.3.109 kennel.that would give awesome battery life and at the same time you are on beauty of cm7.
For quarx builds, get it from http://quarx2k.ru/cm7-nightly-defy+/
For kernel just see the ms2 ginger thread, there you would find 4.5.3.109 and zip file which can be flashed by cwm.
Btw, earlier releases had problem in booting with that kernel which quarx fixed on 0316. If you flash earlier cm72 releases, then flash 4.5.2.109dht22 kernel, which you can find in the same ms2ginger thread.
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Can i flash the Kernel you suggested on my current CM7 without flashing CM7.2 for Defy+? If i can, what will the effects be? Will it mean any changes in my settings, applications or any other thing, or will it just improve certain computing aspects?

Luppertazzi said:
Can i flash the Kernel you suggested on my current CM7 without flashing CM7.2 for Defy+? If i can, what will the effects be? Will it mean any changes in my settings, applications or any other thing, or will it just improve certain computing aspects?
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No don't flash that kernel which leads to boot loop on cm7 stable which uses froyo kernel. I assume you have froyo kernel now correct.
Kernel won't change any computing aspects nor will change any settings, you don't find any noticeable difference as far as the system goes.
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Correct. 2.2.2 CEE as base. Any other kernel you might recommend for this base and CM7.1 stable? Or any other battery calibration suggestions, way to make it last longer?

Well on froyo I don't have one to recommend. GB builds give better battery life and we have alternatives.
I was with cm7 fire quite some time but didn't like battery life. Then I moved to ms2ginger, battery life was awesome but then it's stock, missing cm7.
Now finally I have mix of cm72 with ms2ginger kernel, loving it.
If you have nandroid backup of original stock froyo and gives better battery life then try restoring it's 'boot' through cwm recovery, please nandroid backup the existing 'boot' before you do this, just in case if you stuck in boot loop, you can restore it back.
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premaca said:
No don't flash that kernel which leads to boot loop on cm7 stable which uses froyo kernel. I assume you have froyo kernel now correct.
Kernel won't change any computing aspects nor will change any settings, you don't find any noticeable difference as far as the system goes.
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I was using the MS2Ginger 3.0 based rom by walter79 and I got wifi issues with my office wifi not working.. I then flashed to cm7.1 and though battery life is not that good, wifi works smoothly...
I will try the cm7.2 with ms2ginger and see if I get wifi issues with that as well.

New to the Defy - most recent stable rom

Hi,
I've picked up a motorola defy, and am wondering what is the most recent e.g ICS, rom that is stable and everything works?
So far i've rooted the phone and that's about it.
It's a 2.51 UK phone.
I'm familiar with the HTC Desire S roms, but haven't a clue when it comes to the Defy.
I've searched through the dev forum, but can't quite get an indication of what's what.
Sorry for the noob question.
Thanks for any replies.

Did you maybe already found out if it has green (SOC) lens or red (bayer) lens camera module? SOC only works on Froyo kernels, while bayer works on both Froyo and Gingerbread kernels. (Which is not of great importance, cause almost all ROM's are available for both kernels)
Anyways... What do you like? Here are some of my recommendations...
For MIUI v2 - Pikachu MIUI (WIUI comes 2nd, as Pikachu had fewer bugs for me and was overall snappier)
For MIUI v4 - WIUI v4
For CM7(.2) - maniac103's builds or FuZZ's KANG's - almost the same, but details do make them different
For CM9 - Epsylon3 made the latest CM9 builds with the final fixes and touches
For AOKP ICS - There's a Milestone 6 coming up soon, built by Kayant (he's building from source, port's can't compare with that)
For JellyBean - I must say I would recommend ParanoidAndroid, which is based on CMX, but somehow manages to be snappier and much better at RAM management. AOKP JP alpha is snappy, too, when compared to CMX. Although the CMX I'm talking about is the one build by Quarx, but people do say tha Epsylon's builts are better performance-wise.

Thanks.
From the looks of my lens it's bayer.
Are any of those roms a default/minimal ice cream sandwich? That's all i'm after really, as I guess jelly bean will have loads of stuff not working correctly yet.

Actually CM10 is working as good as CM9, maybe better. But I must say, I switched to CM10 since the 2nd nightly, and never went back to CM9, so maybe there was an improvement since that in CM9 nightlys...
But you should try them all and choose which you like
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x0149128 said:
Thanks.
From the looks of my lens it's bayer.
Are any of those roms a default/minimal ice cream sandwich? That's all i'm after really, as I guess jelly bean will have loads of stuff not working correctly yet.
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When you say minimal, I'm assuming you mean feature-wise, not GUI-wise, so I guess the best choice for you would be to wait up for AOSP Jelly Bean which Kayant is trying to build from source here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824551
If you don't want Jelly Bean, but ICS, then I think this is the way to go - CM9 Moto Ice Gun - http://www.custom-android.de/portfolio/cm9-motoicegun-edition/ (you can find it in the defy development forum, too). Most of the guys who tested it claim that it's the fastest ICS ROM for the Defy.

niksy+ said:
When you say minimal, I'm assuming you mean feature-wise, not GUI-wise, so I guess the best choice for you would be to wait up for AOSP Jelly Bean which Kayant is trying to build from source here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824551
If you don't want Jelly Bean, but ICS, then I think this is the way to go - CM9 Moto Ice Gun - http://www.custom-android.de/portfolio/cm9-motoicegun-edition/ (you can find it in the defy development forum, too). Most of the guys who tested it claim that it's the fastest ICS ROM for the Defy.
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i still think , that CM9 is the most stable rom for defy
CM9 is fatser then GB , ICS if definitely better then GB in all terms
so a recent stable rom - CM9 .
but in near future , if TI releases proper SGX drivers for our devices .. then , m sure CM10 will be the most stable rom for defy .

IMHO I would choose CM10
What Kayant is doing isn't pure AOSP. It has some fixes!
I was talking with Quarx recently and he said that CM10 is very similar to pure AOSP..so trust me...go CM10
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I've given AOKP ICS milestone 5 a go.
Seems to be lacking polish compared to the HTC ICS roms with sense 3.6 - I guess that's something i'm going to have to get used to. I don't like his boot screen either.
When I say minimal i mean without a bunch of pre-installed stuff like games, twitter etc..

Boot screen can be changed for one you like
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x0149128 said:
I've given AOKP ICS milestone 5 a go.
Seems to be lacking polish compared to the HTC ICS roms with sense 3.6 - I guess that's something i'm going to have to get used to. I don't like his boot screen either.
When I say minimal i mean without a bunch of pre-installed stuff like games, twitter etc..
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All ROMs are minimal then!
They come only with essential apps preinstalled (DSP manager, HWA Settings and FM Radio) + default ROM ones (phone..camera...you know)
This is app set up for CM10
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Go for cm10
Go for CM10..i have been using it since the first nightly of quarx..
i would recommend you to try quarx builds ...because it is updated frequently..

go for pa 2.0. It is stable

Walking dead said:
go for pa 2.0. It is stable
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Pa 2.0 is based on Quarx ROMs!
Plus Pa doesn't have working tether like Quarx build
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ppero196 said:
Pa 2.0 is based on Quarx ROMs!
Plus Pa doesn't have working tether like Quarx build
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I can't have working tether since CM9 from Quarx or E....
I don't know whether I'm using BL6 kernel (2.3.6) on Defy which cause this problem.
Also, since CM9, I can't play myTV (apps from TVB) live broadcast.
Anyone can help to try it on your CM9/10? Here is the apps:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quickplay.tvbmytv

Quarx,no doubt, he develops this. Anyways, if it includes some apps you don't want or some to add simply do this with an archiver manager on computer...

Hi all!
What stable ROM do you guys recommend for Defy green lens? I recently installed the most stable CM7 and I like but there are some thing I don't quite like, like the incompatibility with Titanium backup, the vibration issue for notifications, and the battery life didn't improve significantly. So, I am looking for the one but without having to flash 7-8 roms, that where you guys coming in, which rom out there is the best and stable for defy green lens?
And if you could include a download link would be great, because I encountered so many sites with links and versions and rom and kernels, and this and that, that is confusing for a newbie like me.
Thank you!

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act_tony said:
Hi all!
What stable ROM do you guys recommend for Defy green lens? I recently installed the most stable CM7 and I like but there are some thing I don't quite like, like the incompatibility with Titanium backup, the vibration issue for notifications, and the battery life didn't improve significantly. So, I am looking for the one but without having to flash 7-8 roms, that where you guys coming in, which rom out there is the best and stable for defy green lens?
And if you could include a download link would be great, because I encountered so many sites with links and versions and rom and kernels, and this and that, that is confusing for a newbie like me.
Thank you!
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You could try with cm11, goes very well, but has some bugs with bluetooth, calls and other stuff, you could try the 20-01-14 build, or you can try the latest build of cm10.2 by quarx
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DiegoxG said:
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You could try with cm11, goes very well, but has some bugs with bluetooth, calls and other stuff, you could try the 20-01-14 build, or you can try the latest build of cm10.2 by quarx
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Thank you for your answer. I will try that. I have another issue though last night I charged my phone, today it was at 98% well I went online to check my email and the battery went from 98% to 5% like in 7 minutes, and the main reason I flashing my phone was because battery life, I guess the joke was on me! :crying:

act_tony said:
Thank you for your answer. I will try that. I have another issue though last night I charged my phone, today it was at 98% well I went online to check my email and the battery went from 98% to 5% like in 7 minutes, and the main reason I flashing my phone was because battery life, I guess the joke was on me! :crying:
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I think your battery is quite old, or give the try to cm11 or 10.2 and tell us

DiegoxG said:
I think your battery is quite old, or give the try to cm11 or 10.2 and tell us
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Both, lol, my battery is 2+ years old and I should try CM10.
From all the CM10 and 11 what version is the most stable? If I flash it could I go back to stock eventually? (keep in mind that I have a Defy green lens) because if these custom roms don't work quite as smooth I think I'm going to ended up flashing the stock rom.
Diego, Thanx for all the help!

[Q] stable ROMs

which is the stable ROM for defy+ for Daily usage....plz do rply
thanks in Advance

coolshahabaz said:
which is the stable ROM for defy+ for Daily usage....plz do rply
thanks in Advance
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Didint test CM 9s myself , coz i jumped from Stock to 2ndboot immediately CM 10 Cyanogen, but from what i can read - mostly all 4.0.4 are stable now.
CM 10s are also stable enough, used all versions of Cyanogen by Quarx from 2013 - suggest , if you decide to go that way to start with 0409 ROM. It has pretty good battery management, and no WiFI dropouts..All in all good choice..And no ringtone bug too.
If you get no WiFI and or no mobile signal - check FIRST aeroplane mode - it tends to boot with it on.
Just turn it off - and all works.
Cheerz

raven34 said:
Didint test CM 9s myself , coz i jumped from Stock to 2ndboot immediately CM 10 Cyanogen, but from what i can read - mostly all 4.0.4 are stable now.
CM 10s are also stable enough, used all versions of Cyanogen by Quarx from 2013 - suggest , if you decide to go that way to start with 0409 ROM. It has pretty good battery management, and no WiFI dropouts..All in all good choice..And no ringtone bug too.
If you get no WiFI and or no mobile signal - check FIRST aeroplane mode - it tends to boot with it on.
Just turn it off - and all works.
Cheerz
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thx buddy i've installed latest CM10 and running well too....
at the start i got wi-fi problem, wi-fi is not starting but after tweaking the baseband all started well....
now the thing is that I can not overclock my cell stcuk on 1GHz stcok frequency....
anyone here plz suggest me what should i do to get overclocked CPU...
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is that franco kernel updater will able to update the kernel???

coolshahabaz said:
thx buddy i've installed latest CM10 and running well too....
at the start i got wi-fi problem, wi-fi is not starting but after tweaking the baseband all started well....
now the thing is that I can not overclock my cell stcuk on 1GHz stcok frequency....
anyone here plz suggest me what should i do to get overclocked CPU...
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is that franco kernel updater will able to update the kernel???
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Think that read here on forums that SetVsel won't work well with CM10s..and tends to crash the thing ...look it up, not sure about it where i read it. If ur using it - try with something else. Also , read about developers pages - they are doing something wtih 3+ kernel but still very experimental.. check Quarx pages ull find all kinds of it there.

wajkiui 3.1.27 (gb) seems very stable, more than any other rom i tried including stock. second best would be stock (imo)

gsd99mg1 said:
wajkiui 3.1.27 (gb) seems very stable, more than any other rom i tried including stock. second best would be stock (imo)
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But, its based on 2.3.7 , isn't it? My guess was we are talking about CM10 4.1.2...All 4.0.4 are fully stable and thats CM9. Your talking about CM7 if im not mistaken, and that's way old. For that to put on defy plus - you can leave stock..

raven34 said:
But, its based on 2.3.7 , isn't it? My guess was we are talking about CM10 4.1.2...All 4.0.4 are fully stable and thats CM9. Your talking about CM7 if im not mistaken, and that's way old. For that to put on defy plus - you can leave stock..
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cm9/10 seemed too slow to me. stock is somewhat better but nowhere near gb-based miui. and the subject thread does not mention cm10. to me, the improvements of cm10 in terms of features do not make up for the loss in speed.

[Q] Suggest a Stable Version After Cm7.2 !!

Im using Cm7.2 absolutely stable..
Now i wish to update to a new version !!
cm9 is stopped and cant find download link
cm10.1 is on progress....
or any AOSP Stable ICS/ JB ?
Basically i need a stable one for max daily usage with max battery ... i use internet and games rarely
and whats this thread contains.. many ROM names and which one are for DEFY !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824551

CM9 is the best option for you. Go to uncledan's android mirror to get CM9
I'm using CM10 27/05 but it does have few bugs.
All the roms on that thread are for the Defy and Defy+.

hotdog125 said:
CM9 is the best option for you. Go to uncledan's android mirror to get CM9
I'm using CM10 27/05 but it does have few bugs.
All the roms on that thread are for the Defy and Defy+.
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Quarx' CM10 18/03 was pretty stable, no bugs at all for me. 27/05 is considerably faster though. I'd say CM10 is a safe bet as it's quite mature by now. Be aware that some of these builds are marked as experimental (the ones with the red colour)

I am using Quarx' CM10 17/2 with Blechdose 22/3 Jellyx kernel... It's very smooth and stable

thanks you all...(i mean it)
decided to try cm9 ...
downloaded the last one from http://defy-cm.net/defy-cm9-nightly/ (its Quarx)
flashed the OS , its gr8 for now. will update soon .
Going to install basebandswitcher 4.
and also battery calibration tool after a full recharge !!
inbetween one dbt ..im using a DEFY mb525 .(prev os was cm7.2). So my kernel will be a FROYO One . R8?
Should i install GB kernel for better performance ...?

cm9 of Quarx Vs cm9.1 of epsylon
like i said i installed Quarx cm9
now found a cm9.1 by epsylon http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353003
anyone tried this !!

v2dare said:
like i said i installed Quarx cm9
now found a cm9.1 by epsylon http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353003
anyone tried this !!
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Yes, there's not much of a difference. You don't need to install any kernel.

But in this thread it shows i need to flash kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1618904
r8 now my phone shows kernel as 2.6.32.9-gb ....
got kernel-gb-234-451-134-signed.zip from http://defy.wdscript.fr/kernel/
Before that my Questions are
should i update the KERNEL .. its some threads its shown Kernal Update is necessary ...
hotdog125 said:
Yes, there's not much of a difference. You don't need to install any kernel.
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