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How to uninstall unrevoked root and recovery reflash tool so I can get OTA update?

I would like to get the OTA update that comes out today, but assume I cannot do that with root and the custom recovery. Are there directions somewhere on how to do this for the unrevoked3 setup? Thanks.

If you are running a rooted stock rom and all you've done is push super user, busybox, and maybe a modified host file for adfree, I don't understand why you would need to unroot to receive the OTA update. None of the core system has been modified. Am I totally off base here? To my mind, the worst that would happen is you would loose root.

need stock recovery to flash the ota properly. downgrade via the instructions posted in this forum and do the two ota. then reroot using unrevoked 3

I'd just wait for the devs to clear the new OTA. Didn't take long with the EVO.
No need to jump the gun quite yet...

shoman24v said:
I'd just wait for the devs to clear the new OTA. Didn't take long with the EVO.
No need to jump the gun quite yet...
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Yeah, this is what I'm waiting for. A similiar EVO solution to the OTA

seriously, you open a thread to answer your other thread? while the answer you looking for is right in the 1st page.

I've reported both threads and suggested a temp ban. **** on the first page there is a huge orange font telling me how to install the ota. I wish this phone woulda came out on anything but verizon. To many kids on verizon....and idiots.

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What do I have to do when the real froyo comes out if I'm rooted

Question is pretty straight foward. Do I have to unroot? Do I lose root if I update and have to wait until the real froyo is rooted?
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Very quickly (perhaps hours) after the official Samsung update becomes available OTA, one of the developers here will surely post a stock rom for Froyo that is already rooted and Clockwork Recovery ready. There will probably be versions flashable by both Odin and Clockwork. Custom roms will be updated soon after that.

To actually answer your question you would most likely be safe with just using odin back to an older build 2.1 then let the ota take over after you boot in to your homescreen.
However, answering your question completely. Losing root is a big maybe better yet a most likely. There is a root already out that i'm almost positive will work with the official 2.2 also though.

What if I just want to update to froyo using my phone and then root later?
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iwantAdollar said:
What if I just want to update to froyo using my phone and then root later?
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That would be a bad idea because it's possible that samsung/sprint will have patched all the currently known root exploits. Most likely there will be a flashable zip available on xda within hours of release that will let you maintain root. The froyo update can be altered easily to maintain root but if you use it unmodified to update and then expect to reroot you will likely be screwed.

So far I have yet to flash one OTA that has intervened with root...though doesn't the exploit effect ADB which google needs to fix..I dont think its that simple to just patch up..

If someone is rooted but has not modifed their phone in any way or removed any stock apps, would they still be able to receive OTA?

gTen said:
So far I have yet to flash one OTA that has intervened with root...though doesn't the exploit effect ADB which google needs to fix..I dont think its that simple to just patch up..
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There have not been any major OTAs yet so I don't see why that would be much of an argument that this huge OTA won't kill root. We had OTA's on the hero that preserved root and others that patched it. If you want to go ahead and take your chances with the OTA be my guest, but I was just trying to let the OP know that the risk to reward ratio is way to high in my opinion.

richse said:
There have not been any major OTAs yet so I don't see why that would be much of an argument that this huge OTA won't kill root. We had OTA's on the hero that preserved root and others that patched it. If you want to go ahead and take your chances with the OTA be my guest, but I was just trying to let the OP know that the risk to reward ratio is way to high in my opinion.
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The ops question is whether or not the OTA would not work if he is rooted..similar to removing stock apps..hence I answered based on that, not maintaining root...

Elixis said:
If someone is rooted but has not modifed their phone in any way or removed any stock apps, would they still be able to receive OTA?
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Yes u will still get ota and it should work fine. U might need to reroot after but that's all. The 2.2 ota might break root on ur current setup, but I don't think the update will patch the root exploit so u should be able to run the same oneclick and get root again.

how about we wait till it happens? it could all change depending on what the OTA update does to our phones. The advice has always been wait ... Wait.. and wait.. when it is safe then do the OTA.

gTen said:
The ops question is whether or not the OTA would not work if he is rooted..similar to removing stock apps..hence I answered based on that, not maintaining root...
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Maybe you should try reading the OP again. It says:
iwantAdollar said:
Question is pretty straight foward. Do I have to unroot? Do I lose root if I update and have to wait until the real froyo is rooted?
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He was asking a lot more than if he would get the OTA. I answered his question and gave some advice. You chimed in with some crap about never having lost root with an OTA. That was crap advice so I responded.

richse said:
Maybe you should try reading the OP again. It says:
He was asking a lot more than if he would get the OTA. I answered his question and gave some advice. You chimed in with some crap about never having lost root with an OTA. That was crap advice so I responded.
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I could have sworn the question was different when I read it :/..and I'm pretty sure I reread it after you posted..but I dont see edited, unless it got lost or..hmm..am I going senile? :/ lol

What if I'm rooted and there's an OTA?

1. can I accept it if I'm on the stock rom?
2. if not, will there be a comprehensive update from the dev community with new radios and the updated rom?

We already got the update go look in dev section for glacier gingerbread leak posted by faux123, not teampokerface
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This wasn't always true in the past on older phones, but on the MT4G and you're rooted, you won't receive OTA updates even if you're on the stock ROM.

so in other words i have to unroot to get the ota update when it comes out?

Gregory.u317 said:
so in other words i have to unroot to get the ota update when it comes out?
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no, those are the exact words.

The new OTA will be GB MySense, we've had it for over a week. We now also have GB Sense 2.1 built specifically for our hardware. So in other words, everything tmo has to offer and SO much more is already posted in the dev section. The pecking order of AOSP>Sense>MySense pretty much means that it takes FOREVER to get updates, so official OTA's are like celebrating Christmas in July.

Merge just got 2.3.4 (build 3.05.573.1), Shift still on 2.3.3

I wonder if this Merge update has the same bugs our 2.3.3 Evo Shift update from Sprint has like the major problem with the Sense reloading. If not, I hope that Sprint will follow very soon if this update if it doesn't have any major bugs.
Any Sprint insider info out there on if the Shift will be getting this 2.3.4 version too??? Especially if it fixes the Sense reloading issue.

What you should do is root your phone ASAP and NOT accept any OTA from HTC/Sprint while you still can. If you want to run Sense there are many Sense based ROMs you can flash.
Instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255360

Amen...
Ota go away!
Ota go away!

I will never again accept an ota update. That was the worst month and a half. The phone is running great now though. Try one of the sense based roms if you want to stick with sense.

im using the warm synergy and its great on my shift

Econ212 said:
Try one of the sense based roms if you want to stick with sense.
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And try Cyanogenmod 7 if you think sense is just shiney bloat.

Just say no to OTA's . When and IF the Shift gets another update hopefully people have learned their lesson. Don't accept OTA's. If your already rooted stay that way. Wait for updates to be worked on by the Dev's.

prboy1969 said:
Just say no to OTA's . When and IF the Shift gets another update hopefully people have learned their lesson. Don't accept OTA's. If your already rooted stay that way. Wait for updates to be worked on by the Dev's.
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+1 just ask the people that took the last OTA and suffered for a few months.
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Edit: don't want to confuse anyone so I edited my post
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crump84 said:
Ota? What's an ota? I just got a message saying there's a update for my phone... Should I take it..?
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Sure but before you do please do us all a favor so we don't have to read thru 50 threads that you will start. DON'T ACCEPT ANY OTA'S TIL A DEV HAS LOOKED IT OVER AND SAYS IT'S SAFE!
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crump84 said:
Ota? What's an ota? I just got a message saying there's a update for my phone... Should I take it..?
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Yes definately . Then take it to Sprint , and complain to them about about how it unrooted your phone
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prboy1969 said:
Yes definately . Then take it to Sprint , and complain to them about about how it unrooted your phone
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Hah !
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Just an FYI:
The last time there was a major OTA update for the Shift, I posted a working, rooted version of the update within four hours of us getting the zip file. I'm pretty sure we had a rooted Gingerbread Sense ROM available before the official update was available OTA for most of you.
I have no idea why anyone with an interest in keeping root access would ever accept an OTA update from Sprint.

x99percent said:
Just an FYI:
The last time there was a major OTA update for the Shift, I posted a working, rooted version of the update within four hours of us getting the zip file. I'm pretty sure we had a rooted Gingerbread Sense ROM available before the official update was available OTA for most of you.
I have no idea why anyone with an interest in keeping root access would ever accept an OTA update from Sprint.
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Could not have been said any better

x99percent said:
Just an FYI:
The last time there was a major OTA update for the Shift, I posted a working, rooted version of the update within four hours of us getting the zip file. I'm pretty sure we had a rooted Gingerbread Sense ROM available before the official update was available OTA for most of you.
I have no idea why anyone with an interest in keeping root access would ever accept an OTA update from Sprint.
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Yes, many n00bz accepted the ota, but the largest group got a new phone, either upgraded or got a replacement, and it came with the ota. I had to take my phone back and that's what happened to me. With the help of otaking and scaryghoul, I got my root back, and I am now rocking miui thanks to you

today's OTA update from Sprint - Q&A time!

to hopefully decrease the number of posts from members in the coming days about the new OTA that Sprint/HTC released today (but will not officially "push" to devices until January 24,) I would like to point out some things to new members as well as veterans, as we see this happen every time a new OTA is pushed.
latests news/updates in bold.
flashing lights reminder: IF YOU ARE ROOTED, DO NOT UNROOT TO GET THIS OTA UPDATE FROM SPRINT. YOU WILL LOSE THE ABILITY TO RE ROOT AS REVOLUTIONARY DOES NOT WORK YET WITH THE NEW HBOOT 2.18
1. Number one rule, and i will cap this DO NOT ACCEPT A OTA UPDATE IF YOU ARE ROOTED. it has been said many many times here, and members with rooted phones do it anyways. why risk it???? we all saw the gingerbread debacle last year.
2. New HBoot. it seems the new ota update has a new h-boot, 2.18, and from what it seems and this may remain to be seen 100% it is not unlockable with revolutionary. i can not confirm this personally. EDIT: seems the new 2.18 hboot is preparing the evo4g to be added to the unlock bootloader list at htcdev. we await word on when this might be official from htc. UPDATE: seems Captain_Throwback has a way to get your hboot down to 2.10 to use unrevoked. the process is long but it does work, as I have tested it myself.
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...18-HBOOT-with-HTCDev-com-No-More-Watermark!-"
4. Why the update? The big part of this update was to remove CIQ from the evo's. yay. There were small improvements to Peep (the htc twitter client) and other various fixes. report of battery life being worse than 4.54 have been reported.
5. So when will my favorite rom be updated to the OTA base? well, we already have a stock rom based on the ota (actually 2!) , it is located here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455340
so this is a start. your favorite rom will be updated by it's developer when the dev has time, last update we had (4.54) we saw a rapid update of roms.
6. Great, so has sense changed at all? No we are still at sense 1.0 sigh.
7. so how about the new kernel? it is now based on htc 2.6.35.10 dated december 21, 20011. Captain_Throwback has extracted the kernel standalone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21654186&postcount=3214
7a. What "hacks" work with the the new stock rom you posted? look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459982
8. i have a question!! well use the search function and see if it has been answered, look here, the Q&A threads, or the dev threads. I hope this will clear down some of the clutter that comes up during this wonderful thing called an OTA update.

I'm far from a sense person, and more seasoned veteran, but good post, and has some good info that people should read. I'd like to believe it'd cut down on threads, but you can't say you didn't try.

teh roxxorz said:
I'm far from a sense person, and more seasoned veteran, but good post, and has some good info that people should read. I'd like to believe it'd cut down on threads, but you can't say you didn't try. :_
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i just want the new members to realize 2/3 their questions can be answered by reading for ten minutes, and may save them major headaches, but your right. we shall get some doozies. lol

brad560 said:
i just want the new members to realize 2/3 their questions can be answered by reading for ten minutes, and may save them major headaches, but your right. we shall get some doozies. lol
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They need to set up like a new user pen where they can only post there for the like 2 days and learn those things. Also, glad you're rom is doing well, know you had a semi uphill battle at the start.
Also, I can't WAIT to see all the 'I just updated, and now I wana root" threads.

interesting
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Awesome post bro.. thank you.

^ great info, thanks brad, no doubt this will help some!
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Thanks Brad I flashed your rom. I'm waiting along with everyone else for the new Radios. I cant wait.

teh roxxorz said:
They need to set up like a new user pen where they can only post there for the like 2 days and learn those things. Also, glad you're rom is doing well, know you had a semi uphill battle at the start.
Also, I can't WAIT to see all the 'I just updated, and now I wana root" threads.
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OMG! I just had nightmare flashbacks of "Root the *****!"

Thanks Brad for the update,its good to know whats going on with our EVO.Looks like sprint has a hardon for stopping developement,but as smart as you guys are,you'll get the HBoot unlocked before long.

HipKat said:
OMG! I just had nightmare flashbacks of "Root the *****!"
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That was a nightmare that needs to just stay a memory. D:

will try to update this with relevant info as it comes along.

Great thread and maybe some of the noobs will read it before thinking the ota update is the next greatest thing.
It will be once the devs get ahold of it and move along updating their great roms.
Thank Brad for the new info,
Long live the Evo 4g.

Seems your rom file host is struggling this morning. I can not dl either version of your ROM, Brad.

Has it been confirmed that it cannot get S-Off with Revolutionary and SuperTool?
Oh how I hope it can be unlocked... If it cannot, then a deluge of root threads will open and I might be driven to insanity.
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tropicalbrit said:
Has it been confirmed that it cannot be rooted with Revolutionary and SuperTool?
Oh how I hope it can be rooted... If it cannot be rooted, then a deluge of threads will open and I might be driven to insanity.
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Cannot since revolutionary doesn't support the hboot with the new ota
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I feel I must chime in here and make some further clarifications.
Tools like unrevoked and Revolutionary do NOT give you root. This is a very common misconception. What these tools DO give you is NAND access (S-OFF).
In order to obtain root, a custom recovery is required to flash a rooted ROM. In order to flash a custom recovery, you must have NAND access (S-OFF).
If your phone has S-OFF, you can run rooted and non-rooted ROMS just the same. It all depends on what ROM you flash. What gives a ROM root access is having superuser permissions. This is achieved with ChainDD's Superuser app which grants a ROM with SU permissions. If a ROM has the Superuser app cooked in, it has root access.
So it goes a little something like this:
unrevoked/revolutionary --> S-OFF
S-OFF --> allows flashing custom recovery
custom recovery --> allows flashing custom ROMs
custom ROMs with SU permissions cooked in --> gives you root
S-OFF and Root are only indirectly related.
If you have S-OFF, you will ALWAYS have the ability to flash ROMs, even the latest newest releases.
Here's a further example, my own personal experience:
I obtained S-OFF over a year ago using unrevoked3, which permanently granted S-OFF. Since then I have applied every radio, hboot, etc as they have been released. Never lost S-OFF.
Now regarding this latest OTA release, #12 (4.67.651.3), here is what I did. I flashed a stock unrooted/unmodified 4.54 rom. I then went into settings->system updates and checked for the new ota. I downloaded the OTA, and APPLIED the OTA. Applying the update flashed the new hboot, the stock recovery, and the new radios, as well as the new stock 4.67.651.3 ROM.
After it fully completed it's process I reflashed the custom recovery. From there I am free to flash any ROM I wish. What I did was took the new rom into the developer kitchen and rooted it. Then flashed it. Viola, I am on rooted 4.67.651.3 with full access. In actuality I'm running my barebones build currently, linked in my sig.
Once you run unrevoked or revolutionary you should never have to again. They give you permanent S-OFF. You'll always have the ability to flash a custom recovery, even if you accept an OTA update, and flash ANY custom ROM.
I hope this post helps people better understand the whole root and NAND security process.

bman3333 said:
Seems your rom file host is struggling this morning. I can not dl either version of your ROM, Brad.
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strange, no problems here, i use dev-host for now, seems it is easier to download there for people in work, etc.

thanks misery for your post. newbies would get confused by all of that, but i still will say to the day i die, lol. do not accept a OTA from sprint if you are rooted. things could go wrong..

brad560 said:
thanks misery for your post. newbies would get confused by all of that, but i still will say to the day i die, lol. do not accept a OTA from sprint if you are rooted. things could go wrong..
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Accepting an OTA does indeed cause you to lose root acces. No arguement there. But it's a simple matter of reflashing a custom recovery and flashing a rooted ROM through recovery and bam back to being rooted.