Hello!
So, I've read through the beginner guides (and that is a hilarious video btw!) and just want to double check a few things. I'm on Fido (Canada) with a stock S4 (i337M) that I got a couple days ago.
1. I assume I use the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494 [HOW-TO] and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2298299 [Canadian Root and Recovery].
1a. That tool will allow me to un-root in case I need the warranty, yes?
2. I also want to flash to vanilla Android (aka Pure Google / Google Edition)... which ROM do I use? There are so many I can't tell.
2a. I know the Samsung camera app doesn't work on the Pure Google ROM, but is basic functionality still working, i.e. can I still take a picture / video / etc.? Is there any other basic functionality missing? (I heard something about the volume button?)
3. Which ROM do I use if I want to restore to factory?
4. I also need to backup my SMS, contacts, call log, app data, settings etc. so I can restore them easily after flashing to new ROM, or after restoring to factory ROM. Will Titanium handle all of this?
Thanks
kabutar said:
Hello!
So, I've read through the beginner guides (and that is a hilarious video btw!) and just want to double check a few things. I'm on Fido (Canada) with a stock S4 (i337M) that I got a couple days ago.
1. I assume I use the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494 [HOW-TO] and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2298299 [Canadian Root and Recovery].
1a. That tool will allow me to un-root in case I need the warranty, yes?
2. I also want to flash to vanilla Android (aka Pure Google / Google Edition)... which ROM do I use? There are so many I can't tell.
2a. I know the Samsung camera app doesn't work on the Pure Google ROM, but is basic functionality still working, i.e. can I still take a picture / video / etc.? Is there any other basic functionality missing? (I heard something about the volume button?)
3. Which ROM do I use if I want to restore to factory?
4. I also need to backup my SMS, contacts, call log, app data, settings etc. so I can restore them easily after flashing to new ROM, or after restoring to factory ROM. Will Titanium handle all of this?
Thanks
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That guide should be fine. If you want "vanilla Android", right now the closest thing would be CM, you can get it from http://get.cm and select "jfltecan" (the canadian S4 model). Ye,s, Titanium can backup all of those things you mentioned, although I am not certain about system settings - there will be a lot of different settings between TouchWiz and AOSP.
CommentProvider said:
That guide should be fine. If you want "vanilla Android", right now the closest thing would be CM, you can get it from http://get.cm and select "jfltecan" (the canadian S4 model). Ye,s, Titanium can backup all of those things you mentioned, although I am not certain about system settings - there will be a lot of different settings between TouchWiz and AOSP.
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awesome thanks. I'm not worried about system settings just apps and their settings.
for the factory ROM would this work?: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261573 (again, I'm on Fido in Canada)
and lastly, I'm still not clear on the difference between Odin/Loki/whatever you use to root and/or flash - would someone be able to clarify?
Also, just to be clear, what is meant by 'recovery'?
Thanks again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41989987
Loki
refers to the exploit that allows us to run custom recoveries as well as custom roms. You only need to have a loki'd rom if you have a model with a locked bootloader (AT&T).
recovery is a partition that you can access at boot by holding down a combination of keys. (volume up and home button in the case of our sgs4) every phone has recovery stock but it doesn't do much. you can replace stock with clockwork mod recovery which is extremely useful for flashing all kinds of things and making backups before you do. There are other alternative recoveries besides clockwork but that seems to be the most common. TWRP is also gaining popularity these days. You can easily switch between recoveries and or upgrade your current recovery. All that needs to happen is for a new image to be flashed onto the recovery partition. See the rooting guide for more info on how to flash a custom recovery.
Sent from my SGH-I747
mymusicathome said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41989987
Loki
refers to the exploit that allows us to run custom recoveries as well as custom roms. You only need to have a loki'd rom if you have a model with a locked bootloader (AT&T).
recovery is a partition that you can access at boot by holding down a combination of keys. (volume up and home button in the case of our sgs4) every phone has recovery stock but it doesn't do much. you can replace stock with clockwork mod recovery which is extremely useful for flashing all kinds of things and making backups before you do. There are other alternative recoveries besides clockwork but that seems to be the most common. TWRP is also gaining popularity these days. You can easily switch between recoveries and or upgrade your current recovery. All that needs to happen is for a new image to be flashed onto the recovery partition. See the rooting guide for more info on how to flash a custom recovery.
Sent from my SGH-I747
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ok, great, thanks. just to clarify one last time: am I correct in understanding that I don't need to have a custom recovery in order to flash a ROM? or is that what installing clockwork mod/TWRP means? (or is that what rooting means?)
Lastly... is there somewhere with a list of what each custom ROM is, and/or what things don't work in the ROM? I do want vanilla, but I'd also be interested in checking out the other ROMs to see if there's one that will keep some TouchWiz functionality while removing the ridiculous skin.
Also, for vanilla Android, would you recommend waiting till devs release a MOD based off of the S4 GE?
kabutar said:
ok, great, thanks. just to clarify one last time: am I correct in understanding that I don't need to have a custom recovery in order to flash a ROM? or is that what installing clockwork mod/TWRP means? (or is that what rooting means?)
Lastly... is there somewhere with a list of what each custom ROM is, and/or what things don't work in the ROM? I do want vanilla, but I'd also be interested in checking out the other ROMs to see if there's one that will keep some TouchWiz functionality while removing the ridiculous skin.
Also, for vanilla Android, would you recommend waiting till devs release a MOD based off of the S4 GE?
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Check out the link in my first post. A plethora of knowledge that will help you in your Rom journey.
Play around and test the options of roms you have. Each user has different likes/dislikes. MAKE SURE YOU READ THE ORIGINAL POST OF THE ROM YOU ARE PLANNING ON FLASHING. They will contain the basic inductions to flash the Rom and usually any bugs that exist.
Check out this thread for a list of compatible roms -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41834056
[GUIDE][NOOB'S]These non-AT&T ROMs work on AT&T/TMO/Canadian S4 devices. Here's how!
A quick search can be a beautiful thing
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda premium
mymusicathome said:
Check out the link in my first post. A plethora of knowledge that will help you in your Rom journey.
Play around and test the options of roms you have. Each user has different likes/dislikes. MAKE SURE YOU READ THE ORIGINAL POST OF THE ROM YOU ARE PLANNING ON FLASHING. They will contain the basic inductions to flash the Rom and usually any bugs that exist.
Check out this thread for a list of compatible roms -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41834056
[GUIDE][NOOB'S]These non-AT&T ROMs work on AT&T/TMO/Canadian S4 devices. Here's how!
A quick search can be a beautiful thing
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda premium
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Thanks again for the link! I have actually seen several of those... but am just still very confused. mainly on these points:
- FIDO's rom isn't in those lists, and the variety of options for flashing (e.g. some ROMs say they need to be flashed with ODIN not TWRP) is a bit overwhelming!
- there's a post saying the Canadian ROMs are for odin not recovery flashing?
- I'm still not clear on whether I need to install a custom kernel just to flash a different ROM
- Also not clear on how to restore to factory stock (to take it to store for example)
- In the link you sent, the OP said non-ATT people should use the versions in their own forums... but does this apply to Canadian users too or is this ok for them?
Feel free to tell me if I'm being really dumb, but I really am a little lost lol.
As for buggy ROMs... would it be better to wait for one based off the S4 Google Edition?
Thanks again
Canadian dont need loki dont use loki never use loki
Take time to understand everithing before flashing
rodger is the same as fido exept for the rodger bloatware (my accout,visual voicemail etc)
what i did root with cf auto root
installed goomanager on google play ,this app can installed twrp and it really easy
in recovery i flash mint jelly rom ,after its done i flash faux kernel for canadian
To factory restore you have to installe stock rom thru odin ,(from what i understand) it change the rom and the kernel at the same time
zild8 said:
Canadian dont need loki dont use loki never use loki
Take time to understand everithing before flashing
rodger is the same as fido exept for the rodger bloatware (my accout,visual voicemail etc)
what i did root with cf auto root
installed goomanager on google play ,this app can installed twrp and it really easy
in recovery i flash mint jelly rom ,after its done i flash faux kernel for canadian
To factory restore you have to installe stock rom thru odin ,(from what i understand) it change the rom and the kernel at the same time
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ok, so I'm just sorting through all of this. Successfully rooted and flashed CM nightly. However, now I see 'rogers' instead of 'fido' and 4G in the status bar, which I understand means that I'm on LTE according to stock JB icons.
So to sort this out:
a) what do I do about this incorrect network name?
b) if I restore to stock rom through odin, and it installs the 'rogers' rom, how do I get back to the fido apps? will I still have the network access / wrong name problem?
c) if I want to go BACK to stock eventually, I seem to have two options:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261573 [FACTORY STOCK]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2269304 [12 May Official STOCK firmware collections for Canadian S4]
which do I use?
d) I took a nandroid image, BUT: can I restore from this (after wiping all data) to get back to factory ROM, or MUST I use ODIN? Or, do I need to use ODIN and then nandroid to restore everything about the stock ROM?
Thanks!!
A = I think cm have an option to rename carrier label if not you can install xposed framework and notach xposed and the go in frameword,module then activate nottach .open nottach then chose any option that you want ,over 100...
or i think you can try change your apn to show fido ( not sure)
B= check playstore for fido app
C= ? i dont know i think both of then are good, iwould use the one that say canadian stock firmware
D = if you restore from nandroid i think you flash counter gonna still show that you running cutom rom ,best way should be thru odin
Read a lot before you do anithing,you have to understand ..seem to be easy to brick .did not happen to me since one years ,but i read a lot..
And hit the thanks button when somebody helps you
zild8 said:
A = I think cm have an option to rename carrier label if not you can install xposed framework and notach xposed and the go in frameword,module then activate nottach .open nottach then chose any option that you want ,over 100...
or i think you can try change your apn to show fido ( not sure)
B= check playstore for fido app
C= ? i dont know i think both of then are good, iwould use the one that say canadian stock firmware
D = if you restore from nandroid i think you flash counter gonna still show that you running cutom rom ,best way should be thru odin
Read a lot before you do anithing,you have to understand ..seem to be easy to brick .did not happen to me since one years ,but i read a lot..
And hit the thanks button when somebody helps you
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AWESOME, thanks for all that. Successfully flashed, so hopefully that's the end of it all. And thanks for pointing out the thanks button!!
Two LAST quick things:
- if I use the Canadian stock firmware, do I still end up with a wrong carrier name sign? I imagine I may need to ask the dev that, but just in case you happen to know. I actually can't seem to fix it using the methods you suggested, so I'd prefer not to have this happen.
- ok so I can flash with ODIN and then use nandroid to restore a snapshot of the filesystem I assume?
kabutar said:
AWESOME, thanks for all that. Successfully flashed, so hopefully that's the end of it all. And thanks for pointing out the thanks button!!
Two LAST quick things:
- if I use the Canadian stock firmware, do I still end up with a wrong carrier name sign? I imagine I may need to ask the dev that, but just in case you happen to know. I actually can't seem to fix it using the methods you suggested, so I'd prefer not to have this happen.
- ok so I can flash with ODIN and then use nandroid to restore a snapshot of the filesystem I assume?
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-If you flash back to your stock carrier specific firmware with ODIN the carrier will be correct. You will be back to just as when you first got it from the dealer (provided they didn't set it up for you first).
-You shouldn't be able to restore the nandroid if you ODIN back to stock because you will no longer have a custom recovery.
blyndfyre said:
-If you flash back to your stock carrier specific firmware with ODIN the carrier will be correct. You will be back to just as when you first got it from the dealer (provided they didn't set it up for you first).
-You shouldn't be able to restore the nandroid if you ODIN back to stock because you will no longer have a custom recovery.
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- Well the problem is that my carrier is Fido, a subsidiary of Rogers, and so CM only has a 'Rogers' release. Similarly there is only a 'Rogers' stock firmware, so I don't want to flash back to that and have the carrier still wrong...
- OK, well I assume I could root, flash nandroid, and then unroot - yes?
Thanks!
kabutar said:
- Well the problem is that my carrier is Fido, a subsidiary of Rogers, and so CM only has a 'Rogers' release. Similarly there is only a 'Rogers' stock firmware, so I don't want to flash back to that and have the carrier still wrong...
- OK, well I assume I could root, flash nandroid, and then unroot - yes?
Thanks!
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-I see the dilema.
-Well as opposed to even flashing to stock with ODIN in the first place. I would suggest booting to recovery (TWRP or CWM), and restore your Nandroid backup. This should bring you to the point before you flashed any ROM. Keep in mind this won't however remove status showing 'custom'.
If you happened to already ODIN back to stock you would have to root again, install custom recovery and perform the step above.
blyndfyre said:
-I see the dilema.
-Well as opposed to even flashing to stock with ODIN in the first place. I would suggest booting to recovery (TWRP or CWM), and restore your Nandroid backup. This should bring you to the point before you flashed any ROM. Keep in mind this won't however remove status showing 'custom'.
If you happened to already ODIN back to stock you would have to root again, install custom recovery and perform the step above.
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that is what I was thinking... there are ways to unroot as far as I know so hopefully that should be ok!
thankfully I did take a nandroid backup. speaking of which - I have 3 files, does this sound ok?:
- boot/sys/data (these were originally selected so just went with it)
- efs
- other (everything else)
last clarification: I thought nandroid was not recommended if switching between ROMs? like if I had a computer backup (i.e. nandroid) but took the backup in Windows XP (i.e. stock rom) and then tried to restore it over Windows 8 (i.e. CM rom), bad things would happen? or is the nandroid more like an acronis boot image thing where it completely wipes everything?
lastly, if I do that... do I need to wipe factory data, dalvik cache, etc or will nandroid take care of that for me?
many thanks again!
kabutar said:
that is what I was thinking... there are ways to unroot as far as I know so hopefully that should be ok!
thankfully I did take a nandroid backup. speaking of which - I have 3 files, does this sound ok?:
- boot/sys/data (these were originally selected so just went with it)
- efs
- other (everything else)
last clarification: I thought nandroid was not recommended if switching between ROMs? like if I had a computer backup (i.e. nandroid) but took the backup in Windows XP (i.e. stock rom) and then tried to restore it over Windows 8 (i.e. CM rom), bad things would happen? or is the nandroid more like an acronis boot image thing where it completely wipes everything?
lastly, if I do that... do I need to wipe factory data, dalvik cache, etc or will nandroid take care of that for me?
many thanks again!
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I think when you go into recovery and restore nandroid everything will restore.
I would just restore the nandroid from your current state via recovery. If you are worried about it or it causes a problem, it isn't to many more steps to flash to stock via ODIN, root and install recovery and proceed with restore.
I think it is always safe practice to wipe first, and not to dirty flash.
blyndfyre said:
I think when you go into recovery and restore nandroid everything will restore.
I would just restore the nandroid from your current state via recovery. If you are worried about it or it causes a problem, it isn't to many more steps to flash to stock via ODIN, root and install recovery and proceed with restore.
I think it is always safe practice to wipe first, and not to dirty flash.
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ok thanks.
However: I may be SAVED! I just realized that Fido is often tagged as FMC, and there's a stock firmware for that one in this thread. Thank the heavens!
kabutar said:
ok thanks.
However: I may be SAVED! I just realized that Fido is often tagged as FMC, and there's a stock firmware for that one in this thread. Thank the heavens!
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Didn't know that! Never been with Fido. Great news for you, all you have to do is ODIN that firmware
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Didn't know that! Never been with Fido. Great news for you, all you have to do is ODIN that firmware
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Yeah, very relieved, and now just gotta figure out why my phone is showing up as a Rogers phone when the nightly is tagged Rogers + Fido and I'll be good to go. I must say I miss multi-window a little and the handwaving over screen a lot, but by god TouchWiz was ugly.
hey kabutar
Yesterday i flash the 12 may stock firmware thru odin ,to revert backt to stock
Here what i did
-latest odin 3.07
-put your phone in download mode with usb not pluged to computer ...
-closed all kies software
-plug your phone in computer
add firmware on pda button ,dont touch any other option.
reboot i add a lot of crashing app so i went to recovery and errase data
reflash thru odin the stock firmware ,and boom everthing was stock ,no more custom in os or in download mode
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I rooted my S2 a few days back... there is a lot of info in the forums but spread all over the place and it took quite a long time to find the specific answers to some of the questions i had. Thus I've done a short form guide to help anyone looking to root and give them a bit of extended background and *hopefully* reduce all the copy threads/posts in the forum.
NB/ I'm no android expert. Please don't flame if something i've said is wrong. Let me know/PM me and I'll change it. This is only meant to be high level info!
1. What is rooting?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooting_(Android_OS)
2. What are the warranty implications?
Warranty is void BUT you can return the phone back to *stock* (standard manufacturer ship state) so, as long as you don't bone anything in the root process you can get still get warranty returns.
3. What is [recovery]/[kernel]/[rom]?
Your samsung device memory is separated into different partitions to load different parts of the software to make you device work.
http://www.villainrom.co.uk/vBwiki/index.php/Glossary_of_Android_Terms
Typically you have the kernel partition which tells the device what to load on power on), you have the system partition where your ROM (main operating system is loaded) and you have the recovery partition which allows a user to access and write to the system partition (i.e. load custom roms).
Only difference on the galaxy s2 is that the kernel partition and recovery partition linked. What this means for you is that if you change the kernel, you also change the recovery.
4. What is stock [kernel][firmware]?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282
Essentially the stock kernel is the original Samsung kernel shipped on the device (split into many different variants subject to location, sub model, carrier, date etc...) and firmware essentially is the kernel with the Samsung Rom.
5. My current kernel is KG*|KF*...n, can i install any other stock kernel? What are all the different stock kernels? Can I install one over mine?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Yes you can use any Kernel from any country as long as it is for SGS2 with the correct hardware
Check the models are the same.
6. What's the difference between Cf-Root and Clockworkmod and which do i want?
CF-Root is simply a customised version of the clockwordmod recovery. It still functions the same but cf-root has it's own app for making direct recovery calls from within android as CF-root doesn't function with Rom manager, where pure clockworkmod recovery does work with rom manager.
As far as I'm concerned, it's a question of whether you want to use Rom manager really?
7. How do I root the samsung galaxy S2?
All I will say is..ENSURE KIES IS NOT RUNNING IN SYSTEM TRAY OR TASK MANAGER. KILL THE WHOLE PROCESSS TREE IF YOU FIND IT BEFORE DOING ANY ROOTING!
CF-Root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Clockworkmod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118693
N00b guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126522
You can also use the root toolbox method for some stock firmwares without having to flash the recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319653
8. What is superoneclick and what is odin? Where do i get them?
Odin is a flash utility to allow you to push a kernel to your phone from your pc.
Superoneclick is a flash app that will root your phone from your pc.
If you don't want to use superoneclick then simply flash an unsecured kernel (i.e. CF-Root) using Odin and you'll get root already.
Look in the kernel posts and you'll find latest versions there.
9. Can i still get OTA (over the air) updates to my stock rom eventhough I've rooted?
you can update via Kies and root again. Kies wont detect if your phone is rooted or not as long as you are on Stock firmware.
10. How do i get back to stock (as if nothing has ever happened to the phone/factory ship)?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Flashing a full stock rom and kernel (firmware) using odin will remove everything.
11. What is this yellow exclamation mark and how do I get round it?
Whenever you access the download mode, and write a new kernel, your phone will know you've changed the kernel. The exclamation mark is simply a flag for samsung to easily know whether you've messed with the kernel on returns. You can easily get rid of it by using a jig OR re-flashing the stock kernel following an initial root...then re-flashing the zimage from the CWM image. - Jig is far easier and quicker though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14283369&postcount=2
12. What is the custom binary download counter and how can I restore it?
A counter living in the kernel to record the number of times you've changed the kernel. Only way to remove it is to get a usb jig...
13. What is a jig and what does it do?
it's a little usb plugin from ebay then puts the phone into download mode (even if you bricked a kernel update) resets the kernel counter and removes the yellow exclamation mark.
Simply boot off the phone. Plug it in. The screen will say something like 'Erasing boot information'...then unplug it and re-boot. Very simple.
A jig is a cheap and essential piece of hardware that everyone rooting should invest in!
14. What is download mode and what is recovery mode and how do I access them?
Recovery > enter recovery with the key combination of Vol Up + Home + Power
Download > Accessible on all phones, regardless of kernel via Vol Down + Home +
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134290
15. What is deodexed|Odexed?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16461907&postcount=2
http://www.villainrom.co.uk/vBwiki/index.php/Glossary_of_Android_Terms
16. Once rooted I can install custom roms, but can I overwrite the kernel?
Yes, so long as the kernel is compatible with the hardware and in some cases the rom.
17. I've rooted and put CF-Root XWKF(...n)...But I want to put a different kernel on and still have the CWM recovery?
Simply flash the CF-Root over the current CF-Root. However if you are updating a major version (i.e. CWM 4 to CWM 5) just check on CF-Root's thread first.
18. I've pwned my device? What do I do now?
Get a jig to put back into download mode and then flash the original stock firmware.
19. My device is sim locked and/or full of carrier apps? How can I get rid?
To get rid of carrier branding and apps simply flash a different firmware/rom that isn't branded from a carrier. See questions 4 and 5 above for lists of the different stock firmwares.
To get rid of the sim lock you have two options:
1. Root and then use one of the apps from market place (mixed success across the boards); or,
2. Extract some data from your phone in hex code and try and calculate the unlock code yourself.
I bought mine sim free so not done any of this but a quick scan of the forums turned up these two posts which may be useful.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1207513&referrerid=2648941
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064978&referrerid=2648941
20. What is a 'cooked' rom?
Cooked roms are just roms that someone has made based on the stock rom with slight high level changes. They are different from developed roms such as Cyanogen or Villainrom which receive significant low level modifications and developments.
Check out the Rom kitchen project which when released in stable version will allow you to build your own rom on the fly and select all the apps etc.. you want in it: brilliant example of the benefits of Android!
http://www.romkitchen.org/beta/index.php
21. What is CSC and how do i change my ROM CSC?
CSC = consumer software customisation. The file contains the software packages specific to that region, carrier branding and also APN settings for data connection, SMS, MMS etc...
Three ways to change it (NB it will wipe your device!):
1. Flash a multiCSC ROM and that use CSC Select from Market;
2. Flash a multiCSC ROM and type *#272*Device IMEI# into the dial pad and selecting the csc of your choice;
3. Flash a ROM using ODIN, then flash the desired CSC separately using ODIN.
22. Do you just install Rom over an existing?
Some people do and 9 times out of 10 it works, however I personally boot into recovery, wipe all data/factory reset and wipe Davlik cache > then power off > boot into download mode and install the new rom as above. Best way to ensure a 100% clean install.
23. What is the best way to go from Android 2.x to Android 4.x (Ice Cream Sandwich)?
I struggled trying to get Titanium to quickly and efficiently migrate my data (I'm sure it's very possible but I didn't have the time nor inclination to work around it) therefore I just restored my apps data after manually installing the apps from the marketplace. Once you have a stable working phone on ICS future titanium backup/restores are easy as normal.
24. Titanium Backup? What's the difference in app colour?
Menu => Legend;
Green = App - with data that you should backup;
White = App - should be fine to backup;
Red = System app/service - Wouldn't backup as typically installed by default.
Other tools apps that will be helpful are Titanium Backup (from Android Marketplace https://market.android.com/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup&hl=en) and also get a Dropbox account (for free) from Free 2GB Cloud Storage from Dropbox as Titanium can sync to Dropbox.
25. Anything else of note?
Other tools apps that will be helpful are Titanium Backup (from Android Marketplace https://market.android.com/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup&hl=en) and also get a Dropbox account (for free) from Free 2GB Cloud Storage from Dropbox as Titanium can sync to Dropbox.
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Would not this be better in the General section .As a sticky even though noobs dont read stickies .
Witness a very similar Guide posted long time .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282
jje
I welcome suggestions on how to move it and or make it sticky?
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I welcome suggestions on how to move it and or make it sticky?
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PM a Mod.
jje
This was exactly what I was looking for - thanks for this! I got my Galaxy S2 about 3 hours ago and now it's all rooted and awesome thanks to this guide.
You have been great help thnx man .
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Can you post a step by step guide as how to debrand the S2 ?
it will be very much appreciated.
Debranding is easy... just flash a rom that isn't branded. See q. 19.
New to xda. Thanks to threadstarter, really useful information for newbies like me.
great info there . keep up the good work.
thank you very much
Thanks
Just like to say thanks for this appreciate you taking the time to write this.
Nice one
I want to flash back to stock firmware, but after download from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278, instead of PDA, CSC and MODEM files, there were several image files (Power ISO). What to do with them? I desperately need to download stock firmware with MSR - CSC... Any help would be so appreciated!
Thanks. I think it is nice to have all the info in one post. Makes life easier.
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thanks for the info!
Thanks dude for the very useful info.
Thanks for the info. Nice to have it all in one place.
i get its. thanks for guide
Thanks! Makes much sense!
Thanks for the summary! This have helped a lot for newcomers like me
+1. Very helpful.
Should I root My Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 ?
Model : GT-N8000
Country : Malaysia
BTW will root cause the Tab to become slow ?
Do I need stock recovery to get OTA ?
As always if you have to ask then the answer is no .
You root when apps or mods require root only .
Root voids warranty ..
This is not the Tab forum do not use any firmware or mods from here on a Tab .
Do I need stock recovery to get OTA
Yes stock and original with no root for OTA .
jje
If you are happy with your Note, than it's not necessary.
I rooted mine, because it was still on 4.0.3, and that is the reason for the many bad reviews on the internet.
After upgrading to 4.1.2, it was like a whole new tablet.
JJEgan said:
As always if you have to ask then the answer is no .
You root when apps or mods require root only .
Root voids warranty ..
This is not the Tab forum do not use any firmware or mods from here on a Tab .
Do I need stock recovery to get OTA
Yes stock and original with no root for OTA .
jje
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This is not the Tab forum
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What you mean ? I tot I am at the correct forum ?
ic3tea said:
What you mean ? I tot I am at the correct forum ?
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You're from Malaysia..me too.
Btw you're in correct forum.When you wrote tab people will confuse it with galaxy tab and root will not slowing down your note.
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I actually liked my Note even at 4.0.3.. but I rooted so I could use the Multiwindow manager for multiwindow.. EVERYWHERE!
asdfuogh said:
I actually liked my Note even at 4.0.3.. but I rooted so I could use the Multiwindow manager for multiwindow.. EVERYWHERE!
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So that I will try and root but BTW just asking is HighXXXXXXXX CMW Recovery good or Darkman Recovery Good ?
TWRP is only for stock rom right ?
There are many benefits to root. All the flashable files here require it.
But technically you will void your warranty.
However there are ways to get back to stock and "unroot" so mostly no one will know the difference if you have to return it.
Both recoveries are good, but HighOnAndroid supported a couple ROMs that Darkman didn't, though I'm not sure this is still the case
blud7 said:
There are many benefits to root. All the flashable files here require it.
But technically you will void your warranty.
However there are ways to get back to stock and "unroot" so mostly no one will know the difference if you have to return it.
Both recoveries are good, but HighOnAndroid supported a couple ROMs that Darkman didn't, though I'm not sure this is still the case
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How about TWRP Recovery ? TWRP Recovery only work in stoock rom ?
ic3tea said:
So that I will try and root but BTW just asking is HighXXXXXXXX CMW Recovery good or Darkman Recovery Good ?
TWRP is only for stock rom right ?
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You will need to flash the HighXXXXXXXX CMW in ODIN to get root and cwm. You can then flash either darkman recovery with CWM, TWRP recovery or stay as is..
TWRP recovery isa modified recovery like the other 2 and requires root to use. If you look around you'll find the stock recovery too.
I root my tab with Darkman Recorvey is easy then I tot . Thx you guys .
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Yes! Rooting is the way to go. There are ways around the warranty issues.
My main reason for rooting is for these essential apps:
Titanium Backup
Ad Blocker
Mobile ODIN
Triangle Away
ROM Toolbox Pro
and many more apps that have useful extended capabilities once rooted.
Some Con's of rooting
1) good mobile app no longer works after rooting.
So if u use good mobile for checking corporate emails, rooting device will break this.
2) there will be some overhead for you to upgrade device when any new firmwares are released. If u are a very busy professional, then this is an overhead you can live without.
3) there are and there always will be chances that you may brick your device.
4) I think u legaly void warranty on device by unlocking it. (I am assuming u want to root to load different firmware)
I am not discouraging.. just givin you other side of the coin.
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Some Con's of rooting
1) good mobile app no longer works after rooting.
So if u use good mobile for checking corporate emails, rooting device will break this.
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Sorry to bump a three month old thread, but would anyone know whether the Lotus Traveler app used for syncing corporate email and calendar works after rooting? Good is trash, so I'm not surprised it wouldn't work. There's not much of a downside finding out for myself by rooting my Note 10.1 because I intend to keep flying stock on my Note 2; but I thought someone might save me the time and trouble.
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Sorry to bump a three month old thread, but would anyone know whether the Lotus Traveler app used for syncing corporate email and calendar works after rooting? Good is trash, so I'm not surprised it wouldn't work. There's not much of a downside finding out for myself by rooting my Note 10.1 because I intend to keep flying stock on my Note 2; but I thought someone might save me the time and trouble.
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For Lotus Traveler - I have no idea. I am unlucky enough to have Lotus Domino for our corporate e-mail and I hate it with a passion.
I have installed and configured Aqua Mail to connect to our Domino server (IMAP) and I can confirm that it works perfectly after rooting. You just need your IT guys to ensure that you have web access enabled. I set mine to check for mail every 15 minutes, if it's more urgent than that then why is it an email anyway.
Rom Noob tips, from a noob, please feel free to correct, add or expand on any points
General rooting options
Titbits
- rooting under normal circumstances shouldnt slow your system, in fact most devs i believe will attempt to make their roms bring out the best performance from that particular tab/phone you may own, throught software optimizations, in cojunction with working as best as it can with your specific hardware, although, sometimes you may have a N8013(american wifi version), the dev may have the n8000(3g version).......n810 is the european wifi version...................weve been mixing and matching rom versions here, i.e. using a n8000 rom on a n8010 hardware, ive done it, as far as i know, no adverse effects, well at least no obvious signs of em
- Usually, the process of flashing a rom will first involve rooting your tablet, and then flashing a recovery, which replaces the official one that may already be on your tab, the official one is usually pretty limited in what you can do, the custom RECOVERY is flashed because it gives you these options, but not limited
-factory reset
used when, flashing new rom, best to use the recovery when ever you wanna factory reset, i dont know if this was a oje of, or just specific to my situation, but ive used the android factory reset on my tf201 asus prime, after having rooted, custom recovery and been running a custom rom for some time, and it soft brick, since thats happenened ive been shy to do it on any android device, which is cool, as the custom recovery is a beatiful thing.......maybe someone can expand on or correct that suspicion
- wipes
cache- wipe your app cache
Davlik - someone gonna have to chime in there
factory/data reset- brings back your android back to its original state, wipes your data, that means, all apps installed, all settings changed
format - allows you to format the different seperate sections of your android rom, example of the different sections would be......kernel, os, sd hardrive ........
nandroid - the best part of a custom recovery in my opinion, the ability to completely back up your rom, settings, apps, homescreens, widgets......essentially, restoring your android EXACTLY where you left off, the few seconds before, it takes to boot into recovery and start the backup procedure..........you can also backup and restore only certain sections of your rom, so you may decide to back up just the kernel, or you may decide to restore, JUST the kernel from a FULL previous backup (that is, all sections backed up, minus, the sd hardrive,
Unless you specifically FORMAT the sd card, it usually wont be touched......id advice caution and reading up, before making a decision to format sd harddrive, with a custom RECOVERY, that may not know the requirements to your android device, i.e. a custom kernel ported from another android device from another company....plus, formatting sd harddrive is not really a thing done all the time, not unless you are thinking about starting from scratch, i mean, REALLY fresh, disclaimer:this would wipe any files you have stored on your android devices, specifically, documents, pics, vids so on so forth
- stock rom
the original android OS shipped with the device
- stock based rom
tweaked stock rom, speed, battery other mods
-CM (CynogenMod)
third party rom, built from the ground up, kinda....there are other different flavors of third party roms, CM is one of them
-when flashing a new rom, it is strongly advised by most devs to wipe cache/davlick and factory reset....before flashing, this helps avoid any conflicts with the previous rom and the new rom......at this point, if you were to reboot, rather then flash the rom, you would have essentially reset the rom to its original state, that means re-entering your wifi, changing settings, installing apps, generally a pain in the ass, if you find your self having to do it to many times in a short period.....titanium backup(root) is your friend, does a good job at backing up your apps and wifi.....havent figured out how to backup the settings i change in the android setting
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup
-quick boot
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.siriusapplications.quickboot
This free app, is a life saver when your new rom doesnt give you the option to reboot into your recovery, sometime found in hold power button/restart/recovery.......just more quicker then the manual way......especially when your having to google up the hardware method because you've not done it in a while and forgotten......which i believe is power off/hold volume down key/then press hold power button/wait for samsung logo/then let go of all buttons and reapettedly press volume up key untill the recovery shows up.......if you end up in DOWNLOAD mode, hold power to switch off, and repeat the process, changing the volume key, its one or the other, one takes you to the recovery, the other to download mode......so just reverse the volume keys, same method, just up instead of down
- supersu/superuser
installable app, that hands out root permission to apps that ask for root, if you dont expresly give persmision, using a supersu app, the app asking for root permission most likely will not work.... .....this app is installed as part of the rooting process
- afwall+ (free)
third party wifi/3g firewall, requires root........allows you to control what apps are able to use your wif/3g......i think its a passive firwall, as in, it uses very little of your resources, in the way it operates
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dev.ukanth.ufirewall
- rom flashing
sometimes, if you have already flashed a custom rom, and the dev has released the next version of his custom rom, as long as no drastic changes have been made between the two versions, you are able to flash the new version over the old version, keeping all your settings/apps/homescreen/widgets.......although a cache and davlik wipe is usually suggested if doing so
ive forgotten half of what i was originally going to write, so ill just leave it there before i rack my brains .......goodluck whatever you decide
Yes :good:
if it was me?
yea i would do it. it brings life to an old tablet. the 80XX tablets were abandoned by samsung. there are custom roms for Oreo the latest Android OS for N8000. i have a 8020 but no custom roms at the moment.
Good been waiting a whole 5 years for a reply .
Just running this by, to see if i have everything correct.
if i have cwm installed, regardless of model,
to install a stock firmware from samsung, thus basicaly resetting my device back to stock,
i can go into cwm and install this,
http://samsung-updates.com/details/12916/Galaxy_Note_8.0_LTE_Canada/SGH-I467M/RWC/I467MVLAMG2.html
since thats my model,
and it will restore the device to factory settings, correct?
will this wipe out cwm or will cwm stay?
also, can i do this from odin?
if so,
as long as one can get there device into download mode, they can restore the device correct?
and if thats the case, what are the ways that one may wipe out that portion of the device?
is that part of the bootloader?
or is it part of the kernal,
sorry for such noob questions...
i am really new to rom flashing, but really want to get good at it.
thanks everyone in advance,
ths forum is amazing, and all you people are amazing.
Samsung devices are pretty easy to restore and hard to brick, as long as you have some firmware you can flash through Odin. Download mode should remain intact even if you mess up the bootloader/system.
I haven't looked at the link you provided, but assuming the downloads there are in Odin format, flashing back to stock should be easy as pie.
If however, you don't have Odin flashable firmware, and you ahve soemthign that needs to be flashed via fastboot/recovery, then I'm hoping your recovery is still intact and you can boot to it via Volume Up + Home + Power. If you can get into it, you should be able to load firmware onto a MicroSD card and flash from there.
GhostCyber said:
Just running this by, to see if i have everything correct.
if i have cwm installed, regardless of model,
to install a stock firmware from samsung, thus basicaly resetting my device back to stock,
i can go into cwm and install this,
http://samsung-updates.com/details/12916/Galaxy_Note_8.0_LTE_Canada/SGH-I467M/RWC/I467MVLAMG2.html
since thats my model,
and it will restore the device to factory settings, correct?
will this wipe out cwm or will cwm stay?
also, can i do this from odin?
if so,
as long as one can get there device into download mode, they can restore the device correct?
and if thats the case, what are the ways that one may wipe out that portion of the device?
is that part of the bootloader?
or is it part of the kernal,
sorry for such noob questions...
i am really new to rom flashing, but really want to get good at it.
thanks everyone in advance,
ths forum is amazing, and all you people are amazing.
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sorted!
Got it sorted, thanks very much..:good::laugh:
Hi,
I am looking at flashing some custom roms to see which one I like, I have got root by using the cf-auto root by cahinfire but, before I begin I just want to make sure that I back every thing up correctly to avoid any trouble further down the line.
As I understand it ( I use the term 'understand' loosely ) I need to back up the EFS folder and imei
Is that all that is needed? or is there something else that i should do? essentially I would just like to ensure that I can revert back to a stock rom, im not that concerned about knox or warranty. Im sorry if this has been brought up before but as a novice I would appreciate some assistance in gaining a proper understanding of the requirements before starting off
thanks
Backing up EFS has it's pros and cons - I done it, but then I got a mess up, and restoring my EFS did not work. I had to run the fire script posted in the dev section (this script rebuilds your EFS partition so it can be read properly again) - I have seen countless users brick their devices by backing up EFS with bad/rogue apps, so if you go this method, choose very very wisely.
My advice, install CWM, and make a back up via that. - it'll see you right. - If by chance you do get a mess up, you can run the fire script by firausman in the dev section and it'll fix unknown baseband and bootlooping errors.
Ultimately, I cannot stress that you read as much as you can and are aware of the potential what can and does happen, what cannot happen and ultimately can you fix it if something does go wrong.
EDIT:: here is the SCRIPT if you do indeed need it, keep it on your extSD Card for just in case reasons.
radicalisto said:
Backing up EFS has it's pros and cons - I done it, but then I got a mess up, and restoring my EFS did not work. I had to run the fire script posted in the dev section (this script rebuilds your EFS partition so it can be read properly again) - I have seen countless users brick their devices by backing up EFS with bad/rogue apps, so if you go this method, choose very very wisely.
My advice, install CWM, and make a back up via that. - it'll see you right. - If by chance you do get a mess up, you can run the fire script by firausman in the dev section and it'll fix unknown baseband and bootlooping errors.
Ultimately, I cannot stress that you read as much as you can and are aware of the potential what can and does happen, what cannot happen and ultimately can you fix it if something does go wrong.
EDIT:: here is the SCRIPT if you do indeed need it, keep it on your extSD Card for just in case reasons.
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Thanks for the reply and advice Radicalisto.
I will check out CWM and how and what that backs up. If I take a guess now it will make an image of my current system that can be restored? If so does that ensure a back up of efs folder?
mjneil.81 said:
Thanks for the reply and advice Radicalisto.
I will check out CWM and how and what that backs up. If I take a guess now it will make an image of my current system that can be restored? If so does that ensure a back up of efs folder?
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CWM offers an EFS backup yes, it has to be done seperate to the IMAGE back up though. Also note if you back up a 4.3 ROM on MJ7 firmware you cannot downgrade to a lower version ie: MJ1-2-3-4-5-6 etc - you can go to MK2 and back to MJ7 though.
Similar if you back up a 4.3 and upgrade to 4.4.2 then that backup becomes useless as it cannot be restored.
CWM - Install custom ROM, keep that script I posted close by, and you'll be 100% :good:
radicalisto said:
CWM offers an EFS backup yes, it has to be done seperate to the IMAGE back up though. Also note if you back up a 4.3 ROM on MJ7 firmware you cannot downgrade to a lower version ie: MJ1-2-3-4-5-6 etc - you can go to MK2 and back to MJ7 though.
Similar if you back up a 4.3 and upgrade to 4.4.2 then that backup becomes useless as it cannot be restored.
CWM - Install custom ROM, keep that script I posted close by, and you'll be 100% :good:
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Thanks alot for your assistance im going to get the back up sorted and read up some more there is fair bit that i need to understand before flashing
Wise words my friend. Read up and understand are the two most important words of advice anyone can give and words that anyone should take heed of.
Good luck, if you run into problems, just holler :good:
radicalisto said:
Wise words my friend. Read up and understand are the two most important words of advice anyone can give and words that anyone should take heed of.
Good luck, if you run into problems, just holler :good:
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so far the best thing I have come up with is to flash the latest 4.4.2 stock rom, I think this is the best option until some of the custom ROMs develop along a bit further.
but this leeds to a few more questions (I hope its not too much of a bother) Im going ( i think) to download the rom from Firmwares|SamMobile but it will be from another country(im in Australia) could this affect the perfomance of the phone in anyway or can I just flash other modems/radios in order to fix any problems that may occur?
mjneil.81 said:
so far the best thing I have come up with is to flash the latest 4.4.2 stock rom, I think this is the best option until some of the custom ROMs develop along a bit further.
but this leeds to a few more questions (I hope its not too much of a bother) Im going ( i think) to download the rom from Firmwares|SamMobile but it will be from another country(im in Australia) could this affect the perfomance of the phone in anyway or can I just flash other modems/radios in order to fix any problems that may occur?
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So long as your note isn't a Hong Kong model you're alright, Here is a faster download link for XEO (Stock Polish ROM) - So long as it's an Intl N9005 (not HK) should be fine
all done upgraded to 4.4.2 no problems at all thanks radicalisto
mjneil.81 said:
all done upgraded to 4.4.2 no problems at all thanks radicalisto
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:highfive:
ok now I have a problem I just tried to root the phone again with cf autoroot and its stuck in a boot loop. I cant get it back in download mode or recovery any suggestions
all good i got back into download mode hahaha *stops having a heart attack
Greetings, what is the best way for me to take my JFLEATT from MDL to NJ4?
I've not yet put a SIM or SDHC in the phone. It's been connected to my PC to run Casual and to a Wi-Fi network to install the TWRP Manager from the Play store. I also updated TWRP to 2.8.4.0 (after first updating to 2.8.5.0 and experiencing the dead recovery discussed here). I've just wiped the phone and made a compressed, non-encrypted backup of all the filesystems for disaster recovery purposes.
I've performed steps 1-5a in this awesome topic.
Is it true, can I just flash stock/rooted/custom ROMs through TWRP?
Although it's probably right in front of me, I can't seem to find a stock/rooted NJ4 ROM to use with TWRP. A recommendation would be very much appreciated.
So what do I do next to get from MDL to NJ4?
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xpanmanx said:
Greetings, what is the best way for me to take my JFLEATT from MDL to NJ4?
I've not yet put a SIM or SDHC in the phone. It's been connected to my PC to run Casual and to a Wi-Fi network to install the TWRP Manager from the Play store. I also updated TWRP to 2.8.4.0 (after first updating to 2.8.5.0 and experiencing the dead recovery discussed here). I've just wiped the phone and made a compressed, non-encrypted backup of all the filesystems for disaster recovery purposes.
I checked out this awesome topic. I think step 5B, near the bottom of the OP, applies to me. .......is it true, can I just flash stock/rooted/custom ROMs through TWRP?
Although it's probably right in front of me, I can't seem to find a stock/rooted NJ4 ROM to use with TWRP.
What do I do next to get from MDL to NJ4?
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If your bootloader is MDL and you take the NJ4 update you will be locked and forced to use safestrap recovery. If you are MDL you are one of the few lucky ones remaining with the options to flash a lot of custom roms using TWRP. Don't upgrade would be my suggestion. You can find great TW roms without upgrading.
Thanks
What do I need to watch for to make sure I don't lock the bootloader?
I want the KK/Sammy stock experience, rooted. I'm thinking Goldeneye is a good place to start.
With much respect to iB4STiD and his users, I might like to try something tighter to stock. Is there a popular TWRP-flashable ROM which could get me there?
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xpanmanx said:
Thanks
What do I need to watch for to make sure I don't lock the bootloader?
I want the KK/Sammy stock experience, rooted. I'm thinking Goldeneye is a good place to start.
With much respect to iB4STiD and his users, I might like to try something tighter to stock. Is there a popular TWRP-flashable ROM which could get me there?
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Follow the instructions in the thread you mentioned. They apply to your device. Specifically the FIRST post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42320391&postcount=1
Once that's done report back to us. Some parts might be out of date, in that case just do a quick search around the forum. Your want to get the latest version of TWRP flashed into recovery for example.
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Follow the instructions in the thread you mentioned.
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Thanks, I've done that already, through step 5a.
(I see how my OP could be confusing on that point; I've gone back and edited it for clarity.)
Are there any other recommendations for a KK/Sammy stock/rooted experience that can be flashed from TWRP? Goldeneye looks great, I'm just trying to learn of others.
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xpanmanx said:
Thanks, I've done that already, through step 5a.
(I see how my OP could be confusing on that point; I've gone back and edited it for clarity.)
Are there any other recommendations for a KK/Sammy stock/rooted experience that can be flashed from TWRP? Goldeneye looks great, I'm just trying to learn of others.
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Your set then, you already have a Nandroid.
Grab a ROM, put it on your external SD card, reboot into TWRP, wipe the device, and flash the ROM, kernels, etc. ~ Most ROM's your find in the subforums around here are already have been loki-doki'ed so you shouldn't be over worried about. Besides, most ROM threads will mention in the first post if they are already loki patched. Enjoy your "unlocked" S4, you lucky person ^^