I'm long over due for an upgrade. I'm coming from a Nexus S and the screen is a pain to see outside. How is the outdoor experience? Bonus if you were a former NS owner.
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If you like to keep the phone at low brightness and you are in bright light, you really struggle to see anything on the screen. However, just putting the brightness up to full will allow you to view the screen in bright light no bother.
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Presumably the auto-brightness copes with such situations fine - it turns it up to max brightness when in daylight, right?
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MercuryStar said:
Presumably the auto-brightness copes with such situations fine - it turns it up to max brightness when in daylight, right?
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Screen is beautiful especially contrast, vivid colors and pure black
Inside I set brightness static low and as soon as I get outside I use Auto.
Only downside is heat when brightness is high and pages/app is light themed.
One example could be my light themed newsreader. If I use it in light conditions (near window) phone get a bit hot after some time (10-15 min)
One day using it in direct sun light, I had to stop reading due to heating ...
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Presumably the auto-brightness copes with such situations fine - it turns it up to max brightness when in daylight, right?
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It does, but it's a bit dim-witted, needs a second or two to react to the lighting outside.
hmm s4 is the best screen dont worry about anything i can only say 2 words FREAKING AWESOME!
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oh and ye its also birght! (remmber also ask someone else my eyes are so so sensitive to brightness!
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It does, but it's a bit dim-witted, needs a second or two to react to the lighting outside.
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Thats generally a good thing. On some older Android phones, it would be overly sensitive and would be constantly changing its brightness just in response to small changes in which angle you're holding it, etc.
From the answers here, it looks like this might be subjective. My last phone was an Xperia Arc and I have to say that in comparison, the SG4 screen is pretty bad outside. In bright, direct sunlight it can be VERY difficult to make out any detail even with the brightness turned all the way up. But I guess this is the trade off for the battery saving of super OLED. In shadow or indoors, the screen is pretty much unbeatable, bright, clear and sharp.
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This is a big concern of mine. I love the specs of the n1 but I've read that nothing can be seen on the screen in direct sunlight. I'd buy an HTC HD2 because I can even read books in sunlight with it but they stick with the win mobile and I like to have an android phone. So what do you say about n1 screen quality in comparison to the htc hd2 screen?
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This is a big concern of mine. I love the specs of the n1 but I've read that nothing can be seen on the screen in direct sun light. I'd buy an HTC HD2 because I can even read books in sunlight with it but they stick with the win mobile and I like to have an android phone. So what do you say about n1 screen quality?
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The only people who say this are people who don't know how to use the phone. Basically there is an automatic brightness option that changes the brightness based on how bright it is around the phone. Unfortunately, it seems like this feature always keeps the screen fairly dim, so I don't like it.
I have this feature disabled at all times and keep my phone at maximum brightness. It looks perfectly fine in sunlight.
People who say the screen doesn't work in sunlight don't know how to disable this feature (ie don't know how to use Android / change simple settings).
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I have this feature disabled at all times and keep my phone at maximum brightness. It looks perfectly fine in sunlight.
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I've seen an app on an htc hd2 that changes the brightness automatically but one can adjust the brightness for specific surround conditions (i.e it looks like a graphical equalizer). I do not own the phone but I was told that this app works quite good. Is there something similar for the n1?
I can attest the screen pretty much sucks in sunligh at full brightness. The beaming sun in south florida is relentless.
Yeah, the N1 is hard to read in the bright sun and its not just pooping on stupid people that dont understand computerz or a simple setting that fixes it, it just gives glare in the sun.
Most phones/screens, regardless of their technology, are difficult to see in direct sunlight. But then, why are you trying to read the screen in direct sunlight? Just turn the other way, or shield it with your hand. Not that hard to figure out, really.
I use the automatic light sensor all the time. The only time is gets confused is is in a dim room, bright source (window, lamp) directly in front of the sensor. You have to realize what the sensor is seeing. Often times it's seeing light reflected off your face, hence the up/down/up/down of the screen brightness.
I honestly don't see either as issues with the phone, but the users rather.
I've had no problems using my Nexus One in direct sunlight.
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I've had no problems using my Nexus One in direct sunlight.
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really? i will be honest, i cannot see **** in direct sunlight unless i have the brightness all the way up... and that screen on full brightness is a battery hog...
I have no major probs with mine in direct sunlight, it's not that much different to the G1. I'm sure there are phones with better screens for direct sunlight but it's far from unusable.
The auto brightness feature works fine, you just have to wait a couple of seconds for it to adjust. Only people who don't know how to use the phone disable it and waste all their battery.
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really? i will be honest, i cannot see **** in direct sunlight unless i have the brightness all the way up... and that screen on full brightness is a battery hog...
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Really. I usually leave the screen set to auto, on the odd occasion I've had to turn it up to the brightest setting, but as the last poster said usually it'll catch up and turn the brightness up itself.
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I have no major probs with mine in direct sunlight, it's not that much different to the G1. I'm sure there are phones with better screens for direct sunlight but it's far from unusable.
The auto brightness feature works fine, you just have to wait a couple of seconds for it to adjust. Only people who don't know how to use the phone disable it and waste all their battery.
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Or people who don't have any problem with the battery? With my use the battery lasts for 20+ hours, which is more than enough time for me to get to a charger again.
I always have the brightness at max and have had it that way for all the phones I've had (where you can set the brightness). If I'm gonna be more than a day without charging it I'll of course turn it down, but it's far from a neccesity for day to day use.
Just checked my phone and it's been off the charger for 16 hours and I still have 53% left on the battery.
Brightness in the direct Thai sunlight is fully adequate. The only problem I've had is that in direct sunlight, everything else is well lit, and so reflects off the screen.
Brightness: no problem
Reflection off the screen: annoying.
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The only people who say this are people who don't know how to use the phone. Basically there is an automatic brightness option that changes the brightness based on how bright it is around the phone. Unfortunately, it seems like this feature always keeps the screen fairly dim, so I don't like it.
I have this feature disabled at all times and keep my phone at maximum brightness. It looks perfectly fine in sunlight.
People who say the screen doesn't work in sunlight don't know how to disable this feature (ie don't know how to use Android / change simple settings).
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False. I know this phone well and disabled the auto brightness within 20 minutes of owning the phone. As much as I love my N1, and would not trade it for any phone, the amazing OMLED screen is one of the worst screens I've used as far as clarity in direct sunlight. This is not an N1 problem, but a problem with OLED screens in general. Assuming the new iPhone that should be released in June will have an OLED screen, it will have the same problem in direct sunlight.
You can buy anti-glare screen protectors that help this problem, but you do sacrifice some of the stunning brightness and clarity of the N1 screen in regular viewing conditions.
There is no way I would trade the N1 screen for the likes of the iPhone screen as the benefits of the OLED screen in non-direct sunlight viewing far outweighs the difficulty seeing the screen in direct sunlight. In fact, the N1 screen is probably its most impressive feature (aside from its blazing speed).
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the amazing OMLED screen is one of the worst screens I've used as far as clarity in direct sunlight. This is not an N1 problem, but a problem with OLED screens in general. Assuming the new iPhone that should be released in June will have an OLED screen, it will have the same problem in direct sunlight.
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of cause this is the n1 problem and yours in the end! How are you suppose to take pictures with the n1 if you see nothing on the screen? How you suppose to dial a number if you see nothing on the screen? Saying this is not the phone to blame but the screen manufacturing process sounds stupid to me.
I have never in my life encountered an electronic device with a screen that was perfectly readable in direct sunlight, that is to say, as readable as indoors (not even my laptop plugged in the mains and set to full brightness). Reason: no screen technology can provide as much brightness as the sun. Solution: accept it, and cover the screen with one hand while you use the device with the other....
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of cause this is the n1 problem and yours in the end! How are you suppose to take pictures with the n1 if you see nothing on the screen? How you suppose to dial a number if you see nothing on the screen? Saying this is not the phone to blame but the screen manufacturing process sounds stupid to me.
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take pictures: look over the device and hit the shutter button..
input: open you jacket and form the number while providing shadow with it, or provide shadow with one hand while forming the number with the other. It's a fact that you need to accept, period.
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Here is a video I found, it basically compares the N1's screen in sunlight to the Droid's screen at three different brightness levels. Enjoy.
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The screen is really nice in normal light but yeah it sucks in the sunlight LOL Probably depends where you live but in sunny South Florida it's a pain sometimes. Doesn't matter which direction you turn definitely have to shield it with your hand and it's still pretty hard to read. I'm looking into getting an anti glare screen protector for it to see how that helps. The display is absolutely beautiful but i'm starting to think maybe oled isn't the best technology for cell phone screens
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The main difference between the screen technology in the N1 and most other phones is that on the N1, as I understand it, each pixel emits its own light (OLED = Organic Light Emitting Diode) as opposed to a 'liquid' film lighted from the back (LCD = Liquid Crystal Display). The only technology that I know of that will work well in direct sunlight is e-ink.
It is not likely that a pixel or a backlight could ever reasonably compete with direct sunlight, but on an LCD screen it is possible for the sunlight to reflect off the back layer or to hold the device is a certain angle to 'perhap's see the image better in sunlight then on the OLED type display.
However, having the N1 myself, I have found that I am able to shade the display in full Southern California Sunlight well enough to function with the device. The OLED display is much too gorgious to give up for LCD in my opinion.
I feel like the screen brightness is trending significantly lower with the auto brightness sensor enabled. I could swear that the screen would bump up the brightness more in certain settings that now appear too dim. Is anyone else seeing this, or am I imagining it?
Actually, I didn't really notice at first, but my girlfriend's Epic has been updated already and mine has not (still waiting for the update message). After i read this post I put them side by side to check...in the same lighting conditions her Epic is definitely dimmer now.
Sigh... why'd the break it! Screen brightness was perfect! Now I find myself pointing the screen at a light source from time to time because it goes too dim too fast. Sure, it may give the OLED matrix a slightly longer life, but most of us don't use this thing for hours outdoors anyway - in addition to the fact that we'll (probably) be replacing the phone after 1-2 years for the next best thing anyway. Any fixes anyone?
It seems like the screen can get dimmer now but I could be wrong.
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i was thinkin that before and also while web browsing i used to be able to adjust brightness even with my general brightness on auto .. but now i cant ....
I just leave mine at either 50% or 100%
They lowered the minimum brightness, which affects the auto scaler at all levels. I noticed that the EVO could get much duller than the Epic and that when indoors, the lowest setting was still quite bright. It should help save battery.
I use manual, so I don't care.
i really love the dimmer screen, i always have it very low because at work i really dont need a brighter screen and of course save battery, love that change.
I like the lower setting because it was hard to look at in the morning after waking up before. You can easily adjusting the brightness by swiping left or right on the status bar.
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Can anyone please tell me how Galaxy s4 screen handles Sunligh is it same as S^3
It's not that great, I have not comparted it to S3 but it is sometimes hard to see what's on the screen (it was better on my fake S3 from China). The most annoying thing is if you have autobrightness turned on and you get a call while outside, it takes about 3 seconds to increase the brightness (if you take the phone out of your pocket) of the screen for you to see who is calling.
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It's not that great, I have not comparted it to S3 but it is sometimes hard to see what's on the screen (it was better on my fake S3 from China). The most annoying thing is if you have autobrightness turned on and you get a call while outside, it takes about 3 seconds to increase the brightness (if you take the phone out of your pocket) of the screen for you to see who is calling.
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I'm always using a anti glare screen protector, it improves around 70% in the minimum brightness! I guess is not a bad idea to have one on
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I'm always using a anti glare screen protector, it improves around 70% in the minimum brightness! I guess is not a bad idea to have one on
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yes but you are from London its not sunny there
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yes but you are from London its not sunny there
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Read again. I am from Brazil living in London, already tested the same screen protector there, of course is not the same effect but is much better than without it.
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Can anyone please tell me how Galaxy s4 screen handles Sunligh is it same as S^3
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Better then s3 for sure since it has a higher ppi
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Tbh I've never had any problems with visibility in sunlight. The smudges shine, but that's the case with any phone. AMOLED is by nature pretty good in sunlight, it's nothing you should worry about.
Definitely an improvement over S3, at least with auto brightness on. You can see what you're doing even in strong sunshine.
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Tbh I've never had any problems with visibility in sunlight. The smudges shine, but that's the case with any phone. AMOLED is by nature pretty good in sunlight, it's nothing you should worry about.
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Amoled is NOT 'good by nature' in sunlight. LCDs however are because when the sun shines straight onto it they show their reflective side (as opposed to their blocking/filtering side during normal operations) and you can still read/see what you're doing. That way LCDs are NOT pretty but they're readable. NO Amoled I know of is very readable in the same conditions. Again, this is with the screen in direct sunlight on a nice and sunny day.
What did get better, when compared to the S3, is: screen is brighter and the colour scheme for email changed from dark (which makes things worse in sunlight) to a brighter scheme
As for those matte screen protectors: worst thing EVER on a high res display
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Better then s3 for sure since it has a higher ppi
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I love that logic! Thanks for making me smile
ok just bought 2 HTC Ones tried S4 and it was no good under sunlight HTC one handled it much better and i wanted to help HTC by buying from them dont want that company to go down
your opnion, alright ^^ for me is still better with the screen protector than without it. of course u cant buy the **** ones... my one is perfect, still a awesome screen for me
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Amoled is NOT 'good by nature' in sunlight. LCDs however are because when the sun shines straight onto it they show their reflective side (as opposed to their blocking/filtering side during normal operations) and you can still read/see what you're doing. That way LCDs are NOT pretty but they're readable. NO Amoled I know of is very readable in the same conditions. Again, this is with the screen in direct sunlight on a nice and sunny day.
What did get better, when compared to the S3, is: screen is brighter and the colour scheme for email changed from dark (which makes things worse in sunlight) to a brighter scheme
As for those matte screen protectors: worst thing EVER on a high res display
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Oh really? Sorry about that then, I need to get my facts straight. I wonder where I got that idea.
But anyway, personally I've had no troubles with my screen in sunlight. Then again I do live in a nordic country so sunlight isn't as bright.
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Oh really? Sorry about that then, I need to get my facts straight. I wonder where I got that idea.
But anyway, personally I've had no troubles with my screen in sunlight. Then again I do live in a nordic country so sunlight isn't as bright.
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I hear what you're saying and, no hard feelings, but here in Autralia I was forced to go back inside on a number of occasions (although this was with an S3) because I could not read ANYTHING on my screen. If you think about it, Amoled produces light.....how is that going to stack up against the light produced by the sun....not too well. A LCD or TFT display has a backlight and some sort of 'layer' that blocks/filters the backlight. Even in direct sunlight this is readable because that 'layer' is clearly visible and becomes reflective. To be honest it's more black and white at that point but it works. Of course the dark S3 theme din't help. I would imagine in environments that are not as bright the S3 and (even more so) the S4 would work without issues even in direct sunlight.
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your opnion, alright ^^ for me is still better with the screen protector than without it. of course u cant buy the **** ones... my one is perfect, still a awesome screen for me
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Whatever works for you. I'm just saying that all the 'matte' and 'anti-glare' protectors I had just made the image fuzzy due to the....well...rough(?) surface of the protector. They used to be fine in the old QVGA days but now I find them reducing the sharpness of the image.
I'm hearing a lot of different stories regarding the screen turning heavily pink when the brightness is at its lowest.
Thought i'd make a poll to see how many people are affected, then we can hopefully gather its its a hardware defect.
No pink here, even using an app that takes it lower than stock.
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I'd say it's more purple than pink but yes I have it. Same thing when I had a Galaxy S4. I'm pretty sure they're using the same AMOLED tech, which is a shame but yeah.
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I'd say it's more purple than pink but yes I have it. Same thing when I had a Galaxy S4. I'm pretty sure they're using the same AMOLED tech, which is a shame but yeah.
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No pink here, even using an app that takes it lower than stock.
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Make sure to actually vote guys, would help out a bunch
I have had two 6's and sent the first back because of the pink issue. 2nd phone is still pink below 1/3 brightness slider, just not as pink as the first. Called Google and talked with a hardware tech and they said it was part of the performance of the screen, and just to keep it above 1/3 brightness (wack). Both phones I had only turned pink with adaptive brightness on and the slider below 1/3 in a dark room. In normal lighting it doesn't seem to dim into the "pink" range.
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I have had two 6's and sent the first back because of the pink issue. 2nd phone is still pink below 1/3 brightness slider, just not as pink as the first. Called Google and talked with a hardware tech and they said it was part of the performance of the screen, and just to keep it above 1/3 brightness (wack). Both phones I had only turned pink with adaptive brightness on and the slider below 1/3 in a dark room. In normal lighting it doesn't seem to dim into the "pink" range.
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Same. I use adaptive brightness. My grays have a pinkish hue at very low brightness settings. Doesn't bother me, don't usually have brightness so low.
Just part of being an early adopter, I suppose. Not that big a deal to me, but I can see how others might be upset. It's my first phone of this caliber so I'm still totally stoked with it.
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My device turns pink with adaptive on in a dark room. Also without adaptive only when the screen is just about to turn off.
Mine does this of course, because it is something that happens with every AMOLED phone I can think of. It was something I forgot about of course being on a phone with a regular LCD screen for the last year, but as soon as I got my Nexus 6 I remembered about this little quirk of AMOLED. Hopefully custom kernels can minimize how much we notice it with custom color calibration.
Mine is also much more purple than pink, if it is actually a really pink color them maybe something is wrong, IDK. My purple tint doesnt start to happen till I am about 25% of the way down the brightness slider. All the way down and the screen is very heavily tinted purple. But that is too dark to see with anyway so I never turn things down low enough to make things look bad enough that I would actually care about. The screen look beautiful in any normal lighting conditions. I just think of it as a "night time feature" to be easier on tired eyes. lol.
Wasn't this talked about before release? I thought it was part of the brightness setting and to make it more of a battery saver?
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On... So if I jack my brightness down, it gets a little pink. Whoopty-do... Why care? It looks fine at whatever brightness I use and I've never expected a display to look perfect when it's almost off. It's not some damning evidence that the thing is low rent.
Everyone's looking to complain. Omg, If I click on back 19 times while shaking the phone and switching back and forth into chrome, I drop a frame.... A $650 shouldn't do that!
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Oh I'm not looking to complain at all, I just wanted to see if it's something everyone had or not.
I've just heard so much Conflicting info on this it's driving g me nuts... Either way, I'm super excited about getting it ?
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... Either way, I'm super excited about getting it ?
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You should, it's a great phone. But like every other phone out there, there will be some that have issues and others that are just here to stir the pot.
Heck, I thought it was a feature to make it easier to read text with the brightness super low...
*shrug*
Well, I guess if it's a bug I am glad I got a bad one. Sure as heck not sending it back with the PVS 13. With my luck I'd end up with a 2.
My 2014 Moto X screen turns pink when I crank the brightness down also on lollipop. I think it's due to the AMOLED screen because I can do the same to my N7 and it doesn't turn pink. I've noticed on lollipop that the screen can be made a lot dimmer than on kk
This is all due to amoled folks. And partly how it is calibrated. But it is an inherent quality in these display panels. As long as it's not pink at your "normal" viewing brightness then :thumbup:
Sorry my screen is pretty:good:
One thing I have noticed is that with adaptive brightness on...if I turn my brightness all the way down I do see tint pinkish hue. If I turn my adaptive brightness off and turn my brightness all the way down...I don't have a pinkish tint on the screen.
Anyone else's screen reacts this way?
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I've been reading about this issue all over. Maybe I lucked out but I don't have the pink issue at all.
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One thing I have noticed is that with adaptive brightness on...if I turn my brightness all the way down I do see tint pinkish hue. If I turn my adaptive brightness off and turn my brightness all the way down...I don't have a pinkish tint on the screen.
Anyone else's screen reacts this way?
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Yeah mine does. Lol I am now learning that adaptive is not the same as auto-brightness. But seems like with adaptive on it keeps the screen a bit darker than without. I noticed with the slider maxed out or turned all the way down it gets much brighter and dimmer respectively with it off.
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I've been reading about this issue all over. Maybe I lucked out but I don't have the pink issue at all.
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If you turn adaptive on, and manually turn the brightness all the way down (something you would likely never do in real word use) you will see it. Even in a dark room I don't see it since my display is still bright enough to stay over the threshold where this phenomenon manifests. If I go lower the brightness way down however, it appears.
Samsung throttles the brightness when outside. It may save battery, but it makes the screen hard to see for my 50 years old eyes. On my other phone I can just turn up the brightness, but not on the Samsung. This means that I cant use my S10+ outside without reading glasses, so useless when out walking and the Samsung will have to stay at home.
Only help I have found, is an app called “High Brightness Mode”, but the difference is very small. And the Performance mode with 10% brightness increase, of course.
Anyone got a solution to this? Thanks.
Maybe you don't have auto brightness on because when it detects sunlight it bumps up the brightness a lot imo, or idk maybe you have either a defective unit or defective eyesight because mine gets plenty bright when outside.
I do have autobrightness on. But it only works in direct sunlight. If the sensor is in shade, the screen gets dim, even if all surroundings are lit by sunlight. Try moving your device in/out of sunlight and you will see, that it almost doubles the brightness when sensor sees the sun. That is the brightness I want access to.
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I do have autobrightness on. But it only works in direct sunlight. If the sensor is in shade, the screen gets dim, even if all surroundings are lit by sunlight. Try moving your device in/out of sunlight and you will see, that it almost doubles the brightness when sensor sees the sun. That is the brightness I want access to.
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Yeah, I don't think we can access that brightness level indoors (not manually anyways), and maybe it's because at those brightness levels (1000+ nits) the screen could suffer from premature burn. Probably that's why.
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Yeah, I don't think we can access that brightness level indoors (not manually anyways), and maybe it's because at those brightness levels (1000+ nits) the screen could suffer from premature burn. Probably that's why.
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Should still be the choice of the owner, not Samsung. I dont think any other brand makes screens this dark... But thx for your input.
You need to make sure your display mode is Vivid and not natural. VIVID mode allows the phone to get sunlight readable when auto brightness is turned on. Hope that helps.
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You need to make sure your display mode is Vivid and not natural. VIVID mode allows the phone to get sunlight readable when auto brightness is turned on. Hope that helps.
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Have you actually tested this? I know this is a year later but natural boosts just like vivid, i dont see any reason why would it be different ever
Samsung let YouTube has the colorful mode but other app can't, this's rather very stupid