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Please Support Improved Android Voice Dialer

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1181
The voice dialer in the Android platform is so incredibly flawed yet it doesn't seem as if they notice/care. This issue needs to be starred by more people for it to become something they will look at IMO.
Why should a voice dialer require user input? Isn't the point of a voice dialer such that you can use it by simply pressing the button on your BT headset and instructing the application to choose for you?
Thanks for your time.

Bump. Please support. This issue needs to be resolved!

Isn't this function available in Donut??

What feature? Voice search? Yes, but it requires an internet connection to work. So for those of us that don't have a data plan, it's worthless. Also, the button on a BT headset will activate the voice dialer, not voice search so we still have the same issue.

BUMPED. Honestly, why is it so hard just to open the link and star the issue?

Going to keep on bumping this no matter how long it takes for people to help.

Looks like this is working a little. Got 6 more stars over the weekend! C'mon people, it's just TWO clicks!

rickytenzer said:
why is it so hard just to open the link and star the issue?
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Why is it so hard to write a decent title to a post?

brucemcl said:
Why is it so hard to write a decent title to a post?
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Because I didn't have a PR man in charge like I do now, Bruce.

Ricky i completely agree with you but I starred that defect a day or two after I got my phone and tried the flawed voice dialing system.

I have never in my life known a person who actually uses a Voice Dialer. As far as I'm concerned they can remove it from the OS entirely, I'd rather that Google devotes their resources to something useful.

chefgon said:
I have never in my life known a person who actually uses a Voice Dialer. As far as I'm concerned they can remove it from the OS entirely, I'd rather that Google devotes their resources to something useful.
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You happen to be one of the lucky ones who DOESN'T live in an area where headsets are required by law while driving. If a cop so much as sees a phone in my hand, I can get a $300 ticket.
For us, it's absolutely imperative. I can't really explain to a cop that Android requires me to input my selection when using the Voice Dialer.
So please, for us unlucky people, give us 30 seconds of your time and star the issue.
Thank you

Bump bump bump bump

This would be so much easier if a mod just made this a sticky...

Getting more and more support every day! Thanks guys

Its an app I never used, and probly never will, but ill star it cause I'm a nice guy.

i have no problems with this on donut? If i use google voice search it is perfect gets exactly what i ask for, Also the voice dial works fine? Are you shouting at the phone?

bonesy said:
i have no problems with this on donut? If i use google voice search it is perfect gets exactly what i ask for, Also the voice dial works fine? Are you shouting at the phone?
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+1 works for me ok too. No issues.

cardiak said:
+1 works for me ok too. No issues.
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So you guys do not have to click something on the phone when using the voice dialer? We are not saying that the voice recognition does work we are saying that it is not completely hands free.
Here's a Quote from the defect that accurately describes the problem.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1181 said:
Requiring the user to tap on the phone to confirm the function of the voice
dialer reduces the desired functionality. For example, if when wearing a
hands-free device while driving, one tries to access voicemail, the
following process is required:
1. Unlock handset.
2. Access the voice dialer via handset.
3. Visual prompt for using voice dialer
4. Speak "Call voicemail."
5. Visual prompt: "Call voicemail, call voicemail mobile"
6. Select voicemail option
7. Dials voicemail.
In an ideal voice dialer, the process might look something like this:
1. Unlock not required.
2. Access the voice dialer via handsfree device (e.g., long press on
headset "answer button")
3. Aural prompt: "Say a command."
4. Speak "Call Voicemail"
5. Aural prompt "Would you like to call voicemail?"
6. Speak "Yes/No"
7. Aural prompt "dialing voicemail"
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works with my ps3 bluetooth headset

Carrier removed Phone!

Hello,
I bought a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 GT-P5100, and from some reason, the carrier I bought it from, installed their own ROM and removed the Phone function from the tablet and I can't dial, only use the internet for browsing, so I was wondering, is there a way to bring the phone function back?
Thanks !

verynoob said:
Hello,
I bought a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 GT-P5100, and from some reason, the carrier I bought it from, installed their own ROM and removed the Phone function from the tablet and I can't dial, only use the internet for browsing, so I was wondering, is there a way to bring the phone function back?
Thanks !
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If you just bought it - and it is not what it should be - bring it back. Just my .02 cents
Good luck
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verynoob said:
Hello,
I bought a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 GT-P5100, and from some reason, the carrier I bought it from, installed their own ROM and removed the Phone function from the tablet and I can't dial, only use the internet for browsing, so I was wondering, is there a way to bring the phone function back?
Thanks !
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Are you sure it has the phone and isn't the wifi only model?

Skipjacks said:
Are you sure it has the phone and isn't the wifi only model?
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I don't think it's only the wifi model because I have a SIM card in it already and I'm using the network mobile. But maybe there is a model with SIM but without Phone?

verynoob said:
I don't think it's only the wifi model because I have a SIM card in it already and I'm using the network mobile. But maybe there is a model with SIM but without Phone?
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because of some tax issues, some carriers remove the phone option, when the device has cellular phone calls options, it a "phone" and not a "media device" or "computer tab" and the amount of the tax that the carrier (and you) need to pay goes higher, so they remove it to keep the price fair and not to start **** with the government office that in-charge on the mobile phones.
you always have the option to install stock rom with the phone option, it WILL damage your warranty and its on your own risk.
good luck!

(D)EVIL said:
because of some tax issues, some carriers remove the phone option, when the device has cellular phone calls options, it a "phone" and not a "media device" or "computer tab" and the amount of the tax that the carrier (and you) need to pay goes higher, so they remove it to keep the price fair and not to start **** with the government office that in-charge on the mobile phones.
you always have the option to install stock rom with the phone option, it WILL damage your warranty and its on your own risk.
good luck!
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Thanks for making it clear! I know I'm a bit late :laugh: but I forgot about it.
In order to install stock rom you have to root it first right? is there a guide to do the whole process? (rooting + installing stock rom on galaxy tab 2 10.1?)
ty

or, you could activate google voice, get issued a free phone number
or, you could activate google voice, get issued a free phone number, thats what I did on my wifi only model, it would use your data plan instead, and works great, that way you could give your google number to all the gumbahs and your real number to the real folks in your world. Their are a number of apps that you can use and they work seemlessly with your native app and I had great conversations on voip with no noticeable lag.
Their are a number of 3rd party apps that intergrate with google voice, sign up for the service first, I made a deposit on it years ago and make and take calls on it, no problem, with no charges. If they leave v/m the service transcribes the voice mail and sends it to me via email, which is very nice option, along with spam/call block type features it beats the hell out of what the LEC's offer.
verynoob said:
Thanks for making it clear! I know I'm a bit late :laugh: but I forgot about it.
In order to install stock rom you have to root it first right? is there a guide to do the whole process? (rooting + installing stock rom on galaxy tab 2 10.1?)
ty
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sa-10 said:
or, you could activate google voice, get issued a free phone number, thats what I did on my wifi only model, it would use your data plan instead, and works great, that way you could give your google number to all the gumbahs and your real number to the real folks in your world. Their are a number of apps that you can use and they work seemlessly with your native app and I had great conversations on voip with no noticeable lag.
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Google gives me a phone number and I will be able to call other phones? or it is more like Skype or Viber - that I can call to people with Skype or Viber only? will the people I call to need to pay something?
**Edit : I searched for "Google Voice" in Play Store but I didnt find it, I think it's not available in my country.
I guess I will need to root and install stock rom, is there a guide for doing it on Galaxy Tab 2 10.1?

So is it possible to make VoIP calls on a wifi only model? Like with GVoice over an internet connection? Or is there a better app?
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[Q] Difference between S-voice and Google Now

Sorry if this is the wrong place but:
What's the difference between the S-Voice from the S4 and Google Now?
I watched sum comparison videos on youtube, but they seem a little bit inaccurate. For example, it said that "google voice" can't open apps, but it can on my Nexus 4.

S voice is Samsung's own personal assistant developed for Galaxy devices . I guess it has been used in GS3, Note 2 and GS4 as well.
Google Now is vast new concept started by Google. It's more than just a personal assistant. It's like improved version of Google Voice..
for ex. if you are entering any highway, GN will warn about traffic
you are entering into a tube station, GN will alert you about the next trains lined up..
Google voice can certainly open apps.

Google now is better .S voice sucks that's the difference. Half the time s voice doesn't function right or gets s##t wrong that you ask for.
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imeem said:
Sorry if this is the wrong place but:
What's the difference between the S-Voice from the S4 and Google Now?
I watched sum comparison videos on youtube, but they seem a little bit inaccurate. For example, it said that "google voice" can't open apps, but it can on my Nexus 4.
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S-Voice is like another apps on Samsung Device that begins with "S", and i prefer to put S as Silly except Samsung
Silly apps that u can find all of them for free in play store but samsung preinstall them on galaxies device!!! on Android OS that it has its own preinstalled apps......................!
of course Google Now is better.

Ok, this is turning into a fanboys sort of thread.
Back to the OPs question:
Essentially, theyre the same thing. Its like iOS' Siri versus Google Now, theyre both designed to do the same things but by different companies
And S-Voice is part of a proprietary framework called Touchwiz, so it can only be installed on devices running a Touchwiz ROM. Google now on the other hand, relies on no underlying framework and so could be installed on any Android device, as long as the Android version supports it

thx for the reply. The reason i ask this question is i installed S Voice on my Nexus 4 from here: http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/26/samsung-galaxy-s-4s-s-voice-apk-now-available-to-download/
Is there any reason to have both? I just downloaded it for fun.
With further testing, it seems like the Google now can't open sum apps. Such as PPSSPP, CloudOn, Office Suite, and GTA Vice City. While S voice.apk from the S4 can do this and can do stuff like "turn off wifi" and "turn on bluetooth".

imeem said:
thx for the reply. The reason i ask this question is i installed S Voice on my Nexus 4 from here: http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/26/samsung-galaxy-s-4s-s-voice-apk-now-available-to-download/
Is there any reason to have both? I just downloaded it for fun.
With further testing, it seems like the Google now can't open sum apps. Such as PPSSPP, CloudOn, Office Suite, and GTA Vice City. While S voice.apk from the S4 can do this and can do stuff like "turn off wifi" and "turn on bluetooth".
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Not really, just use whichever is best for what you do, no point in really having 2 of the same sort of utility app
And obviously one will have more features than the other, it just depends on which features are most important to the user
Question, did the s-voice install properly and isnt giving you any force close issues? Strange because I was sure it would rely on the Touchwiz framework

CNexus said:
Not really, just use whichever is best for what you do, no point in really having 2 of the same sort of utility app
And obviously one will have more features than the other, it just depends on which features are most important to the user
Question, did the s-voice install properly and isnt giving you any force close issues? Strange because I was sure it would rely on the Touchwiz framework
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Nope. It installed properly. It only crashes when i go to language & input , select samsung for voice recognizer, and then press voice search.

imeem said:
Nope. It installed properly. It only crashes when language anD input , select samsung for voice recognizer, and then press voice search
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Interesting....thanks, gonna check it out now!
It would seem that it would rely on the TW framework since its an assistant sort of app...

imeem said:
Nope. It installed properly. It only crashes when i go to language & input , select samsung for voice recognizer, and then press voice search.
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How are you getting it to work? For me it kept saying "network connection error"?

CNexus said:
How are you getting it to work? For me it kept saying "network connection error"?
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Did u turn on ur wifi or data? It needs internet. Other than that, i didnt do anything

imeem said:
Did u turn on ur wifi or data? It needs internet. Other than that, i didnt do anything
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Tried with both. Could you upload yours since i know it's working? Thanks

CNexus said:
Tried with both. Could you upload yours since i know it's working? Thanks
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what phone do you have?
https://hotfile.com/dl/201722708/fd3276b/S-Voice_Android_phone_J.apk.html

imeem said:
what phone do you have?
https://hotfile.com/dl/201722708/fd3276b/S-Voice_Android_phone_J.apk.html
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Evo shift, I'm on AOSP 4.2.2 though, so it should be fine. Strangely, that's where I downloaded it from and no luck.

CNexus said:
Evo shift, I'm on AOSP 4.2.2 though, so it should be fine. Strangely, that's where I downloaded it from and no luck.
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try your evo 4 g

CNexus said:
How are you getting it to work? For me it kept saying "network connection error"?
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I used it for a day then got the network connection error also. Samsung (actually Vlingo/Nuance) reads the incoming device ID and blocks the connection if it's a mismatch with the device ID the app's intended to work with. Same thing happened when people were using bootleg copies of the SGS3's S Voice APK before it was released.
As for S Voice vs. Google Now I use S Voice more. To send a text message for example, Google Now opens up the recipient from the address book but you can't dictate the message, at least not from within Google Now. Same thing with e-mail. Dialing's also kind of clunky where if there are multiple options for your request you have to pick one manually. S Voice also repeats the number back before dialing where Google Now just dials and can miss digits you dictate pretty easily. Using a BT headset you can pretty much completely accomplish things hands free with S Voice while quite a few require a second manual action with Google Now.
Here are some examples
If you're in an app like the browser you also can't get Google Now to launch from the menu key because it's now serving the open application and doesn't recognize the "long press" command to open Google Now. Some people have disabled S Voice and remapped the home key to either Google Search or Voice Dialer. S Voice allows you to post to FB and Twitter too. Also, a lot of Google Now's neatest features (flight departure, package shipping, etc.) require you to use Gmail because Google's servers scrape your messages looking for pertinent data. I don't use Gmail and don't like the idea of Google's servers searching my data, even with my permission so to anyone not exclusively on Gmail certain feature don't mean very much.
Voice controls are also tied to S Voice. I use them pretty frequently; especially with the camera, music player, and to launch apps from the lock screen by voice.
I played with Google Now for a short time when I got my N2 so if it's improved or I'm being too hard on it someone speak up.

CNexus said:
How are you getting it to work? For me it kept saying "network connection error"?
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i think my S voice stopped working, says no network connection

imeem said:
i think my S voice stopped working, says no network connection
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It's being blocked because the device ID from the APK you downloaded doesn't match the device ID the server's reading from the actual device.

I love Samsung devices but I can't stand S voice. Unless there has been MAJOR improvement over the S3's/Note2 S voice I will still dislike it. First thing I do when I set up my Galaxy phones is disable it and get rid of the home button delay.
I think google now is better, faster, much more accurate and much more unique ( S voice is a clear copy of Siri).

barondebxl said:
I love Samsung devices but I can't stand S voice. Unless there has been MAJOR improvement over the S3's/Note2 S voice I will still dislike it. First thing I do when I set up my Galaxy phones is disable it and get rid of the home button delay.
I think google now is better, faster, much more accurate and much more unique ( S voice is a clear copy of Siri).
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Yup. HTC Speak is on its way as well.

[Q] ATT S4 adds + to calls, making them fail

Hi everyone,
I've got an ATT I337 running the awesome Hyperdrive ROM version 17.1. Several of us --but clearly not all of us!-- over in that thread have noticed a problem with incoming calls. I think there's a setting somewhere that can fix it, so I'm opening it to a wider audience by posting it here, in hopes someone from this group will know what to tweak.
Here's the specific problem.
If my cell phone receives a call from a known contact "Bob" and Bob's contact info (being a U.S. phone number) is 317-555-1212, so far the phone seems to recognize the call as coming from Bob. However, it reports it as coming from +317-555-1212. When I go into the call log and try to return the call, it dials +317-555-1212, and the extra + causes the system to interpret it as an international call attempt, and the call fails. Cannot be completed as dialed, the message says. If it's an non-contact number, the + is still added. IT's not JUST for contacts.
Let's say Bob leaves a message. The voicemail indicator shows and it says offers to dial *86, the correct access code for voice mail for ATT as I understand it. However, tapping that actually dialed +11 then my ten digit phone number. Call fails.
At the dialpad, pressing and holding 1 to invoke voicemail has the same problem.
In Contacts, contacts are NOT listed with +s, and clicking the call button for them makes them dial OK without a + being prepended.
So, this looks like some international feature is being enabled that I'm not sure how to turn off. Does anyone have any idea how to turn this off? Sorta puts a crimp in the basic phone functionality. Seriously, who actually calls anyone these days? But it would be good to fix.
Please, if anyone has an idea of what might be at the root of this, I would appreciate your help!
Marc

I am confused. Does this only happen on the Hyper rom or all roms for you.
Not sure how anyone else does their contacts. But, I always enter numbers as 1-555-555-5555 even if local.
My voicemail number is set as +15555555555
I never had issues--
I remember some talk of that on Hyper awhile back. But, never paid attention--

Only happens on Hyperdrive. Or at least, I can say I never saw it on stock. Hyper is the only ROM I've actually gotten so far as to run while SIM card is inserted. :good:
My contacts are almost all US based and are just ten digits, no leading 1. I did try editing the contact to my work cell phone by adding a 1 to it, and calling my S4 phone. It still was registered as +317-555-1212 format and return call didn't work.
So, it's not really about the way the contacts are stored, more about how the phone interprets incoming calls.

Try the 1+ and see what happens. Just do a few of your most used numbers to start--
Can you put a different dialer on phone and see

rugmankc said:
Try the 1+ and see what happens. Just do a few of your most used numbers to start--
Can you put a different dialer on phone and see
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Just edited above, adding 1 to the way contacts are stored doesn't change the behavior. I can certainly try a different dialer and see what happens, but it seems to be based on how incoming calls are interpreted. I'm guessing there's a build.prop item or somesuch that needs a-tweaking.
Marc

so you changed the contact number to 1-555-555-5555 with hyphens
i ran hyper for quite a bit awhile back never any issues. of course could be something new--
i am not thinking rom or a lot more would have issue--

I did some tests.
On the phone in question, I edited the google contact for a test phone number. I then called the phone from that tested phone number.
It didn't matter whether the contact was saved in the formats:
317-555-1212
1-317-555-1212
+1-317-555-1212
+317-555-1212
In all cases, the incoming call was recognized as +317-555-1212, which isn't a valid call-back number, and return calls failed. Since this only happened when I put a custom ROM on, I'm sure it's something buried inside the ROM. However, I'm at a loss as to where to check various settings.
Gotta be something deep in there...

If all else fails you can Odin back to stock, reformat your internal card and reroot.
Under Phone Settings/Additional Settings/My Phone Number--is it in format 15555555555
Also, and I don't know where to check, your country code may not be set. I don't know if we even have that setting anymore or would it be in Build Prop.
Probably under ro.something

rugmankc said:
If all else fails you can Odin back to stock, reformat your internal card and reroot.
Under Phone Settings/Additional Settings/My Phone Number--is it in format 15555555555
Also, and I don't know where to check, your country code may not be set. I don't know if we even have that setting anymore or would it be in Build Prop.
Probably under ro.something
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Interesting thought. I had gone into the dialer settings, and checked the Current Country... it listed United States of America. Then I stopped. But looking further it turns out that in the Assisted Dialing settings just below that, there might be stuff that matters. Currently my assisted dialing is OFF. The settings inside are:
Country code: 1
IDD prefix: 011
NDD prefix 1
City/area code: 131
National number length: 11
The area code probably doesn't matter, but I'm interested in the national number length. Ours tend to be 10. Could you please see what your settings are in there, and let me know if anything is different?
I can always backup (ug, safestrap backup), return to stock, poke around, re-root/restore. But if you could take a quick peek I'd be grateful.
Thank you!
Marc
I tried an alternative dialer... it acted just like the stock with the + thing.

I am on a rom that doesn't have those settings--sorry

Thanks anyway! I experimented changing the last setting to 10, and enabling assisted dialing, and it didn't change anything. Sigh.

Ok, you can still go back to stock with Odin. Or, try one of iB's roms they are very good too, I use them almost exclusively now--
Good Luck--:good:

Yeah. I've been back to stock a couple times with Odin. I've got the process down pat! I prefer the hyperdrive rom if I can work through the few small warts. It's just such an elegantly crafted piece of work. Worth the effort, if I eventually sort out the call issue. Appreciate your help.
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Frankenscript said:
Yeah. I've been back to stock a couple times with Odin. I've got the process down pat! I prefer the hyperdrive rom if I can work through the few small warts. It's just such an elegantly crafted piece of work. Worth the effort, if I eventually sort out the call issue. Appreciate your help.
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i got the same problem too. We'll get it figured out!

Damani311 said:
i got the same problem too. We'll get it figured out!
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I figured out the clock on status bar thing. Like someone else said it was under the alignment options ... hidden by default. One by one warts going away.
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Have the same issue here ..can't dial vm..on hyper
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jshua said:
Have the same issue here ..can't dial vm..on hyper
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If you haven't done so yet i suggest noting the issue in the hyper thread ... either the Verizon or att one depending on your phone. Seems to be a bunch of us... more folks report it the common thread will emerge.
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Same issue here i can not dial voicemail and can not call a number back without typing the number in manually. Deal breaker for me hope it gets fixed soon so i can go back to Hyperdrive. Or somebody comes up with some sort of fix.

Download Prefixer and remove the + for outgoing call

BBG037 said:
Download Prefixer and remove the + for outgoing call
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When I get back from vacation I will have to try this. Thanks!

Recording phone calls

I am tired of trying out hundreds of apps to find a way that lets me record phone calls with both participants being audible. I know there are some Android systemic restrictions, but since I live in a country where call recordings are legal, I'd really like to have that opportunity.
Can someone tell me:
What are the restrictions on Android, specifically up to date OxygenOS
On a rooted phone, are there other avenues to explore?
What is your experience?
Are there apps that let you record such calls with a headset?
Thanks.

DF5JT said:
I am tired of trying out hundreds of apps to find a way that lets me record phone calls with both participants being audible. I know there are some Android systemic restrictions, but since I live in a country where call recordings are legal, I'd really like to have that opportunity.
Can someone tell me:
What are the restrictions on Android, specifically up to date OxygenOS
On a rooted phone, are there other avenues to explore?
What is your experience?
Are there apps that let you record such calls with a headset?
Thanks.
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Hello, did you tried this https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/themes/app-enable-call-recording-boot-t3634292 ?

strongst said:
Hello, did you tried this https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/themes/app-enable-call-recording-boot-t3634292 ?
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Thank you for the posting.
Someone already posted that link as a reply to my question, but for some mysterious reason this post isn't there anymore.
I've gone the Magisk way of doing what I needed and it works well.
Thank you anyway!