[Q] Noob - Unrooting & Factory Reset & Others - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

I have just switched over from Iphone to S4 (AT&T) and I have rooted my phone and deleted some bloat apps with the app " NO BLOAT " . I read somewhere that if you do remove bloat apps you must flash the stock rom before you can factory reset?
Reason that I want to do this is because phone seems a little slow so want to remove all stuff and then re-root and flash over cyanogenmod.
Also... To flash over the stock ROM all I need is ODIN and follow those directions corred?
THEN....
When I decide to flash to cyanogenmod all I have to do is Root phone > Install CWM or Loki? (Not sure which one) > then Flash to cyanogen?
Sorry for not understanding much but just switched -- starting to get the hang of it though.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks

To get the stock software yes just odin back to stock , then when you decide you want the custom ROMs then the easiest way to flash custom recoveries is download goo manager and once you open the app hit the menu button and click on "install open recovery script" let it download and install , then you will have twrp touch recovery and you can flash any ROM that has a Loki patched kernel , or any Loki patched kernel , if its not then you have to patch each one you flash .
But if you want cwm with the auto Loki then it takes care of all the Loki stuff , and you can down load it and flash it in twrp.

ncrispi said:
I have just switched over from Iphone to S4 (AT&T) and I have rooted my phone and deleted some bloat apps with the app " NO BLOAT " . I read somewhere that if you do remove bloat apps you must flash the stock rom before you can factory reset?
Reason that I want to do this is because phone seems a little slow so want to remove all stuff and then re-root and flash over cyanogenmod.
Also... To flash over the stock ROM all I need is ODIN and follow those directions corred?
THEN....
When I decide to flash to cyanogenmod all I have to do is Root phone > Install CWM or Loki? (Not sure which one) > then Flash to cyanogen?
Sorry for not understanding much but just switched -- starting to get the hang of it though.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
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Follow the directions here:http://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-tutorials/how-to-unroot-galaxy-s4-and-remove-root-completely/
There is a youtube video on the website, I suggest you watch it through first. Make sure Make sure Make sure you download the correct stock software from the Galaxy S4 Stock Firmware section. Odin can be downloaded there as well. I have done this a couple of times, it works.

Bigtjmc said:
To get the stock software yes just odin back to stock , then when you decide you want the custom ROMs then the easiest way to flash custom recoveries is download goo manager and once you open the app hit the menu button and click on "install open recovery script" let it download and install , then you will have twrp touch recovery and you can flash any ROM that has a Loki patched kernel , or any Loki patched kernel , if its not then you have to patch each one you flash .
But if you want cwm with the auto Loki then it takes care of all the Loki stuff , and you can down load it and flash it in twrp.
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Hello,
Your post confused me quite a bit... I think I read somewhere that TWRP does not work with AT&T or is very bugged? But what is goo manager exactly? and which custom recovery is better with Loki patched Kernel? ive heard a lot about CWM... but I know there is not a major difference in the two.
Which one is best and easiest for AT&T? -- And I believe I have to use the Loki Patch for AT&T bootloader correct?

Bigtjmc said:
To get the stock software yes just odin back to stock , then when you decide you want the custom ROMs then the easiest way to flash custom recoveries is download goo manager and once you open the app hit the menu button and click on "install open recovery script" let it download and install , then you will have twrp touch recovery and you can flash any ROM that has a Loki patched kernel , or any Loki patched kernel , if its not then you have to patch each one you flash .
But if you want cwm with the auto Loki then it takes care of all the Loki stuff , and you can down load it and flash it in twrp.
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Video of Twrp install can be found here: http://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-root/how-to-install-twrp-on-rooted-galaxy-s4-using-goo-manager/
Instructions for some Rom installs for ATT:
http://galaxys4root.com/category/att-galaxy-s4-roms/
I haven't tried to put any roms on mine yet, I have just been using the Nottach Xposed with xposed framework to customize mine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2285074
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401

CptGloval said:
Video of Twrp install can be found here: http://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-root/how-to-install-twrp-on-rooted-galaxy-s4-using-goo-manager/
Instructions for some Rom installs for ATT:
http://galaxys4root.com/category/att-galaxy-s4-roms/
I haven't tried to put any roms on mine yet, I have just been using the Nottach Xposed with xposed framework to customize mine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2285074
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
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Can I uninstall Goo Manager after I install TWRP with it or no?

Yes but I just left it , its a small sometimes useful program,
If your not comfortable doing any mods then I would suggests not doing any until you are comfortable .
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If you are stock , then first root the phone using mottochopper , then install goo and open the program (hit the menu button while in goo ) then install open recovery script .
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Then I would download the cwm recovery , flash it in twrp , download cymod rom/kernel and install in cwm and not worry about Loki ....that would be the most painless way IMO.

Bigtjmc said:
Yes but I just left it , its a small sometimes useful program,
If your not comfortable doing any mods then I would suggests not doing any until you are comfortable .
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If you are stock , then first root the phone using mottochopper , then install goo and open the program (hit the menu button while in goo ) then install open recovery script .
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Then I would download the cwm recovery , flash it in twrp , download cymod rom/kernel and install in cwm and not worry about Loki ....that would be the most painless way IMO.
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If I already have Open Recovery Script ( TWRP ) Why would I download CWM? Also is CYMOD both the ROM and the Kernel? Or would I have to do two separate things on this? I know flash ROM but never heard of the cymod kernel? Also What exactly does a kernel do? I know it can effect the Network and 4g and stuff but what is the point of it? -- Does one come with Cymod built in or would I have to find that separate?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2275545

Bigtjmc said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2275545
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Correct, So the ATT version comes with the Kernel already and it is already loki'd (That just means bootloaded?) to AT&T?
But I see people talking about flashing to other kernels while on the ROM? What is the difference aside from the Network... and what happens if I flash a Kernel that was not Loki'ed to AT&T ?

I believe it has a kernel, only reason I'm saying use the other recovery so you Dont have to Loki or look for Loki patches just choose the Rom you like and kernel if if does not have one , and some ROMs have gapps that your can download and flash , basically they are just app packages for certain ROMs .
A kernel is ,... Like ROM = car, kernel = drivetrain
Like a PC , windows can't operate without ram, and processors

Bigtjmc said:
I believe it has a kernel, only reason I'm saying use the other recovery so you Dont have to Loki or look for Loki patches just choose the Rom you like and kernel if if does not have one , and some ROMs have gapps that your can download and flash , basically they are just app packages for certain ROMs .
A kernel is ,... Like ROM = car, kernel = drivetrain
Like a PC , windows can't operate without ram, and processors
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Oh, So if CWM does that automatically am I able to skip Goo and the other recovery and just follow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmkL9atpVHw (Get CWM on ATT S4) and not have to worry about any of that?
sorry about all of the questions - just hoping to understand it all before I try.

ncrispi;4238658art orrect said:
Loki is just a security patch over the boot loader check points , so the boot loader is untouched at this point.
And you can flash any att kernel that is lokied or you have to somehow Loki it yourself. But as far as flashing a kernel not lokied I Dont know what would happen , might be bad. And also make sure that the kernel is compilable with your ROM, such as (touch wiz) vs (aosp )
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ncrispi said:
Oh, So if CWM does that automatically am I able to skip Goo and the other recovery and just follow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmkL9atpVHw (Get CWM on ATT S4) and not have to worry about any of that?
sorry about all of the questions - just hoping to understand it all before I try.
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Its all good man I'm try n to make it sound easy and it is once you get it , but if you have twrp all you have to do with cwm is flash it in twrp then you will have cwm recovery , now you won't have to deal with Loki it does it for you.
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Bigtjmc said:
Loki is just a security patch over the boot loader check points , so the boot loader is untouched at this point.
And you can flash any att kernel that is lokied or you have to somehow Loki it yourself. But as far as flashing a kernel not lokied I Dont know what would happen , might be bad. And also make sure that the kernel is compilable with your ROM, such as (touch wiz) vs (aosp )
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Its all good man I'm try n to make it sound easy and it is once you get it , but if you have twrp all you have to do with cwm is flash it in twrp then you will have cwm recovery , now you won't have to deal with Loki it does it for you.
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Okay so to sum it all up...
Once I do a fresh factory reset and root I can either install TWRC or CWM - No need for both - and then just flash the cyn rom.
Edit: so if I just have CWM then it will not automatically Loki for me?

ncrispi said:
Okay so to sum it all up...
Once I do a fresh factory reset and root I can either install TWRC or CWM - No need for both - and then just flash the cyn rom.
Edit: so if I just have CWM then it will not automatically Loki for me?
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If you have twrp the you have done rooted , then I wouldn't bother going back factory just download the cwm file , open twrp flash the cwm file then if you have a rom that you want already downloaded then open recovery again now you cwm , make a backup then flash the new rom and gapps if it has any, cwm will loki for you yes.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291956
That's the one that does the auto Loki.

Bigtjmc said:
If you have twrp the you have done rooted , then I wouldn't bother going back factory just download the cwm file , open twrp flash the cwm file then if you have a rom that you want already downloaded then open recovery again now you cwm , make a backup then flash the new rom and gapps if it has any, cwm will loki for you yes.
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alright I think I understand now... I do not have twrp yet, only thing that i have done is rooted so it would not take much to un-root and re-root. but so I could just install CWM and just flash without the need for twrp? It sounds like twrp is just needed for one way to install cwm on to the phone then it is no longer needed... is that a correct assumption?
Also is this the same thing just different method or is this not auto-loki version?
http://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-r...on-att-or-verizon-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337sch-i545/

ncrispi said:
alright I think I understand now... I do not have twrp yet, only thing that i have done is rooted so it would not take much to un-root and re-root. but so I could just install CWM and just flash without the need for twrp? It sounds like twrp is just needed for one way to install cwm on to the phone then it is no longer needed... is that a correct assumption?
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No need to unroot just , Dont get me wrong I like twrp as well as cwm , its just easier for me with all this Loki stuff.
Since your rooted , you can install goo and then use it to flash twrp without a computer and running commands and all that thru adb , just let goo manager install twrp then you can flash cwm thru twrp and then its easy as pie.

EDIT : after more researching is this what I need or will this completely mess my phone up?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297033
Apparently it can root and install CWM in one click... is that all I have to do?

ncrispi said:
EDIT : after more researching is this what I need or will this completely mess my phone up?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297033
Apparently it can root and install CWM in one click... is that all I have to do?
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I'm sure this will work just the same I just did it a different way , if you do it that way just make sure to follow it to a t

Bigtjmc said:
I'm sure this will work just the same I just did it a different way , if you do it that way just make sure to follow it to a t
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Alright I will go ahead and try this method when I get home as it seems to be by far the easiest. Has anyone else tried this method before and can confirm it works?

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[Q] One Click/Very Straightforward Bootloader Unlock?

I've been on the Original Development Forum for the past few days, and I've tried and failed to understand the proper procedure for getting a custom recovery on the phone. The thought of bricking it is really scary to me, so I only want to unlock it if I really know what I'm doing, or there is a one click method of unlocking. Any instructions, explanations, or one click solutions would be greatly appreciated!
Technically the bootloader is not unlocked, only bypassed. Two, if you're that scared I recommend not doing it but if you really want too it's extremely simple.
Go to the Play Store and download "Goo Manager". (YOU MUST BE ROOTED!), From there select Install OpenRecovery Script and Goo Manager will guide you through the rest and install TWRP which is loki'd and ready to go. After that though you can only flash ROM's that have been loki-fied or you won't be able to boot.
cosmicmoonranger said:
I've been on the Original Development Forum for the past few days, and I've tried and failed to understand the proper procedure for getting a custom recovery on the phone. The thought of bricking it is really scary to me, so I only want to unlock it if I really know what I'm doing, or there is a one click method of unlocking. Any instructions, explanations, or one click solutions would be greatly appreciated!
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An automated method hasn't been created yet. If you'd like some help, PM me.
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Thermalwolf said:
Technically the bootloader is not unlocked, only bypassed. Two, if you're that scared I recommend not doing it but if you really want too it's extremely simple.
Go to the Play Store and download "Goo Manager". (YOU MUST BE ROOTED!), From there select Install OpenRecovery Script and Goo Manager will guide you through the rest and install TWRP which is loki'd and ready to go. After that though you can only flash ROM's that have been loki-fied or you won't be able to boot.
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Now you got me there :good:
Good call.
Thermalwolf said:
Technically the bootloader is not unlocked, only bypassed. Two, if you're that scared I recommend not doing it but if you really want too it's extremely simple.
Go to the Play Store and download "Goo Manager". (YOU MUST BE ROOTED!), From there select Install OpenRecovery Script and Goo Manager will guide you through the rest and install TWRP which is loki'd and ready to go. After that though you can only flash ROM's that have been loki-fied or you won't be able to boot.
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So, just to clarify, if I click install OpenRecovery Script in the app, it will install a loki'd TWRP? Will there be anything in the process of installing where I would click anything besides "yes" or "continue"?
Also, will goo manager automatically flash roms? is this better or worse than doing it manually through TWRP?
Thanks!
cosmicmoonranger said:
So, just to clarify, if I click install OpenRecovery Script in the app, it will install a loki'd TWRP? Will there be anything in the process of installing where I would click anything besides "yes" or "continue"?
Also, will goo manager automatically flash roms? is this better or worse than doing it manually through TWRP?
Thanks!
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Yes that's correct, but you must be rooted with Motochopper first. Goo Manager can download ROMs for you, but any automated ROM flashing app is discouraged.
Am I missing something? I downloaded GooManager and I don't see any OpenRecovery Script option. I don't see anything pertaining to recoveries other than Reboot to recovery.
nyeazyone said:
Am I missing something? I downloaded GooManager and I don't see any OpenRecovery Script option. I don't see anything pertaining to recoveries other than Reboot to recovery.
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Hit the menu key in Goo
Ok. What an I missing. Goo manager will download twrp but it won't flash it. What's the next step once goo downloads the recovery image?
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milicigoran said:
Ok. What an I missing. Goo manager will download twrp but it won't flash it. What's the next step once goo downloads the recovery image?
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Are you rooted with Motochopper? If so, go into recovery, and it will be TWRP, it doesn't flash it, it uses Terminal commands to install it. You see nothing happen.

[Q] CMW success, SU fail :(

Hello, first time poster. I recently tried rooting my phone using CWM method. I'm running sph-l720 with software version vpaumf9 and android version 4.2.2. I installed CWM (this version SPH-L720 OUDHS Recovery) with odin with success. Then flashed SuperUser v.099. Everything went smooth until I opened up super user and tried to install binaries and it says "Install failed". I'm wondering if I didnt have the wrong beginning firmware and i needed to (but didnt) install that pre-kernel. I'm also wondering if I have to download the original firmware and have to flash to stock in order to "unroot" even though I didnt finish the SuperUser process, or is their a way to delete the super user app and try to install it again using the same CWM i have already on the phone. I hope this isn't confusing. I'm not a complete novice to rooting, but no expert. I rooted my galaxy s2 but went to Iphone for a while, but now I'm back and a little dissapointed with myself at this fail. Any suggestions? Do i have to go to stock first? Was I using the wrong files for my initial firm ware and need the pre kernel? Am I blabbering on? (yes) Thanks in advance.
jonraymond21 said:
Hello, first time poster. I recently tried rooting my phone using CWM method. I'm running sph-l720 with software version vpaumf9 and android version 4.2.2. I installed CWM (this version SPH-L720 OUDHS Recovery) with odin with success. Then flashed SuperUser v.099. Everything went smooth until I opened up super user and tried to install binaries and it says "Install failed". I'm wondering if I didnt have the wrong beginning firmware and i needed to (but didnt) install that pre-kernel. I'm also wondering if I have to download the original firmware and have to flash to stock in order to "unroot" even though I didnt finish the SuperUser process, or is their a way to delete the super user app and try to install it again using the same CWM i have already on the phone. I hope this isn't confusing. I'm not a complete novice to rooting, but no expert. I rooted my galaxy s2 but went to Iphone for a while, but now I'm back and a little dissapointed with myself at this fail. Any suggestions? Do i have to go to stock first? Was I using the wrong files for my initial firm ware and need the pre kernel? Am I blabbering on? (yes) Thanks in advance.
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Grap CF-Autoroot from here
Follow the instructions here:
Boot back to phone. Open up SU and update binaries.
Then
Go to Playstore and download/install GooManager
Open GooManager and then press the 'menu' button (capicitive button next to Home Button) and choose to install recovery (I like TWRP).
Then let it do it's thing.
If you'd like a real easy way to get 'into recovery mode' from the phone I use the Quickboot app
Also make sure that if you are going to flash ANY ROMs you follow the instructions the developer suggests - many suggest specific recoveries be used
leaderbuilder said:
Grap CF-Autoroot from here
Follow the instructions here:
Boot back to phone. Open up SU and update binaries.
Then
Go to Playstore and download/install GooManager
Open GooManager and then press the 'menu' button (capicitive button next to Home Button) and choose to install recovery (I like TWRP).
Then let it do it's thing.
If you'd like a real easy way to get 'into recovery mode' from the phone I use the Quickboot app
Also make sure that if you are going to flash ANY ROMs you follow the instructions the developer suggests - many suggest specific recoveries be used
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thank you! do i need to do anything before i do this? (Like using odin to revert back to stock?)
i ask because i already have CWM installed
I did the auto root, and open SuperSU and it doesnt ask to update binaries...does that mean it is already done. I didnt find the option in the settings.
jonraymond21 said:
thank you! do i need to do anything before i do this? (Like using odin to revert back to stock?)
i ask because i already have CWM installed
I did the auto root, and open SuperSU and it doesnt ask to update binaries...does that mean it is already done. I didnt find the option in the settings.
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As long as your on some kind of TW/Stock based ROM you should be Okay.
However if you want to go back to straight (AND ROOTED) stock you can use one of rwhilco12's 'one-click' restores.
The one click downloads as a zip. decompress and then run the one -click. If you've never run a oneclick read here
It will give you a stock ROM, rooted, MF9 Modem, Stock recovedry, and Stock kernel. You'll then have to use GooManger method to get custom recovery.
leaderbuilder said:
As long as your on some kind of TW/Stock based ROM you should be Okay.
However if you want to go back to straight (AND ROOTED) stock you can use one of rwhilco12's 'one-click' restores.
The one click downloads as a zip. decompress and then run the one -click. If you've never run a oneclick read here
It will give you a stock ROM, rooted, MF9 Modem, Stock recovedry, and Stock kernel. You'll then have to use GooManger method to get custom recovery.
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man thanks so much. so i definitly got super user access. I'm about to do the goo manager. since you suggested the twrp i think i'm going to try that. since i have CWM recovery installed, do u think that will create any issues if I go to install TWRP from goo manager
actually i googled and it seems that goo manager will seamlessly overwrite cwm. sorry for the questions before searching. appreciate the help. i almost didn't come on here, which would of lead me to reverting to stock, doing cwm again, then being upset that i needed twrm for most roms lmao. I owe u one. If u ever need to learn how to make bad decisions, just shoot me a pm. I got u covered.
No it will just replace it.
I actually (and many around here too) prefer TWRP 2.5.0.2.
You can download the zip for that here, boot to recovery you have now (CWM) and then install that. Or use Goo to install lates TWRP and boot to recovery and then install zip and choose the 2.5.02 you downloaded and then save to your sd card
scratch what i posted here. I ended up having to download ROMmanager and update CWM, then used CWM to install the zip you provided me. thanks so much man. Do you have a favorite stable ROM you recommend using TWRP. I value your advice
jonraymond21 said:
scratch what i posted here. I ended up having to download ROMmanager and update CWM, then used CWM to install the zip you provided me. thanks so much man. Do you have a favorite stable ROM you recommend using TWRP. I value your advice
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Glad you got it.
As for ROMs you really have to try them out for yourself. There are some really great TW ROMs ; Sacs, negalite, triforce and others. For CM/AOSP there are a whole bunch to choose from. I mess with just about all of them. But my daily driver has to be one hundred percent working and reliable so for that I'm usually on a stock debloated and modified TW ROM. Take some time to read through the OPs of the devs and just as importantly through the follow up posts to see what works what doesn't ahs how to fix or get what you need.
Good luck
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leaderbuilder said:
Glad you got it.
As for ROMs you really have to try them out for yourself. There are some really great TW ROMs ; Sacs, negalite, triforce and others. For CM/AOSP there are a whole bunch to choose from. I mess with just about all of them. But my daily driver has to be one hundred percent working and reliable so for that I'm usually on a stock debloated and modified TW ROM. Take some time to read through the OPs of the devs and just as importantly through the follow up posts to see what works what doesn't ahs how to fix or get what you need.
Good luck
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Try this Rom!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327692&page=43
works great!

noob here, lost at rooting

hey all,
I'm a complete noob when it comes to rooting
I've been searching online on how to root a nexus 4 using a mac.. every single guide is different, some skip the unlocking bootloader part, some skip other parts, and most guides are just outdated.
I'm running on absolute stock, 4.4.2.
What's the best (and most current) guide out there? I'm interested in rooting my phone mainly so I can get LTE access.. do no care too much for non stock ROMS (not yet at least)
I think this is the easiest for noobs: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1999065 . It's a tool that will do all the work for you.
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update:
I set up adb on my mac and unlocked bootloader, that was easy.
I'm following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
so now I'm confused about the whole Rom part.. which one do I download? There's a ROMs column, a stock recovery, and stock touch recovery. What are those?
You don't have to install another ROM. You can just download the recovery (CMW for mako touch or non touch) in the post. Also download the su zip tot get root acces.
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Yuoko5 said:
You don't have to install another ROM. You can just download the recovery (CMW for mako touch or non touch) in the post. Also download the su zip tot get root acces.
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ah, so the touch column is all the 'stock' roms. how do I know that it's the latest 4.4.2 stock rom? will be able to do OTA updates after I flash the mako touch?
If you're device is rooted I think you won't be able to install OTA updates from google anymore. But, you can flash these stock roms easily. I'm sure people make flashable zips of every new version of Android. About the columns: ROMs=you can download custom roms (you don't need that); Recovery and recovery touch is basically the same thing. The difference is one recovery can be controlled with the touchscreen and the over with the volume and power button. It's just what you like best.
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beegbear said:
ah, so the touch column is all the 'stock' roms. how do I know that it's the latest 4.4.2 stock rom? will be able to do OTA updates after I flash the mako touch?
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Get it?
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I guess I'm getting some terminology mixed up, it seems that no matter how much I read about this I still can't quite get a grasp of it
What is the definition of CWM (clockwork mod), what exactly does it do?
What is a factory then? (when someone talks about flashing a factory image, I thought that's what CWM is, what's the difference?)
beegbear said:
I guess I'm getting some terminology mixed up, it seems that no matter how much I read about this I still can't quite get a grasp of it
What is the definition of CWM (clockwork mod), what exactly does it do?
What is a factory then? (when someone talks about flashing a factory image, I thought that's what CWM is, what's the difference?)
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Cwm(clockworkmod recovery) is a side load which helps u to flash different ROMs and zip files. It also helps u to wipe battery stats, partition sd card(not with case of n4)
Factory image is the stock ROM that Google provide that u r having in your nexus 4
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beegbear said:
I guess I'm getting some terminology mixed up, it seems that no matter how much I read about this I still can't quite get a grasp of it
What is the definition of CWM (clockwork mod), what exactly does it do?
What is a factory then? (when someone talks about flashing a factory image, I thought that's what CWM is, what's the difference?)
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And regarding your previous question of OTA updates, You'll have to flash the stock recovery if you're on CWM or TWRP (Team Win Recovery Project - Many people recommend this one, I use it myself) and you shouldn't have made any changes to the system files of your stock ROM.
You will receive the OTA if you have modified anything in system, you just won't be able to flash it. And you can also flash the OTA with TWRP instead of stock recovery. Root does not matter, although it will be lost after you update. Before updating, also make sure you're not using a custom kernel. Kernel: The "thing" that android runs on. It's the heart of the OS, you could say. No kernel, no boot.
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And regarding your previous question of OTA updates, You'll have to flash the stock recovery if you're on CWM or TWRP (Team Win Recovery Project - Many people recommend this one, I use it myself) and you shouldn't have made any changes to the system files of your stock ROM.
You will receive the OTA if you have modified anything in system, you just won't be able to flash it. And you can also flash the OTA with TWRP instead of stock recovery. Root does not matter, although it will be lost after you update. Before updating, also make sure you're not using a custom kernel. Kernel: The "thing" that android runs on. It's the heart of the OS, you could say. No kernel, no boot.
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So let me make sure I'm following this..(sorry, I'm sure you saw such questions countless times before)
CWM (or TWRP) is a custom recovery instead of the stock 'recovery' option that's found in the bootloader. If I choose to go with either CWM or TWRP, how much of an issue is it to flash back to stock recovery? would it be done through ADB the same way the custom recovery was flashed in the first place?
As I understand.. the first thing I should do after unlocking the bootloader (already done) and flashing a custom recovery (not done yet) is to create a backup through the custom recovery. Does that back up the radios as well? If I decide to flash the all in one LTE zip and it doesn't work or what not.. will using that recovery flash back the old radios?
Now to the actual rooting..
so flashing super su is what actually does the root? How would I go about returning to complete stock if I ever need to? (stock recovery, remove root, lock bootloader)
When flashing a different ROM, how come I need to make a backup of my apps? what if I want to start completely fresh? Would I not be able to go to the playstore after flashing a custom rom and downloading everything I need? or there is not going to be a play store after flashing? (that's why GAPPS are needed?)
so I rooted and flashed the hybrid radio, works like charm!
I answered most of my own questions in the post above just by going through the process.
What happens if I decide to factory reset through settings? will CWM stay? will the root stay? will the lte fix stay?
Yes...yes...yes.....you really should take advantage of the countless guides people have written explaining all of your questions.
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Another "software not authorized by ATT" plead for help

Reaching out for some help... I'm stuck at this point. I need to get a recovery working. Preferably cwm at this point. All other questions I found when searching were users on previous versions of Android and honestly the whole baseband build thing confuses it. I can still boot to the normal phone and use it as usual but I do want to get a working recovery again.
Device: I337 / Rooted
Android: 4.4.4
Baseband: I337UCUAMF3
Rom: Cyanogenmod Nightly 8/6/14
Kernel: 3.4.0-cyanogenmod-g433243c / [email protected] #1 / Wed Aug 6 2014
I was on TWRP and tried flashing to CWM with Rashr. I did this because TWRP was not compatible with the new CM nightlies.
Recovery now only boots to: "System software not authorized by ATT has been found on your phone"
Is there a way I can get a working recovery going now?
Help is appreciated.
Thanks.
did you flash loki-doki after CWM and before reboot?
I never had issues with TWRP 2.5.0.2 and have latest Cm M9--
rugmankc said:
did you flash loki-doki after CWM and before reboot?
I never had issues with TWRP 2.5.0.2 and have latest Cm M9--
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No I'm totally unfamiliar with Loki as I've never had to deal with it. I never had any issues before this. I guess the TWRP that I had it was already built in?
Is that still an option now? ROM Manager is showing that I have both CWM and TWRP on my phone. I'd be fine with getting rid of TWRP and just using CWM. If I reload CWM in ROM Manager could I then do Loki?
Thanks.
RiG14LA said:
No I'm totally unfamiliar with Loki as I've never had to deal with it. I never had any issues before this. I guess the TWRP that I had it was already built in?
Is that still an option now? ROM Manager is showing that I have both CWM and TWRP on my phone. I'd be fine with getting rid of TWRP and just using CWM. If I reload CWM in ROM Manager could I then do Loki?
Thanks.
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You're probably going to have to use Odin and start all over again. If you're able to use twrp or cwm recovery you're on mdl firmware. You can get that at sammobile.com. Extract it with 7-zip or winrar and use the .tar.md5 in Odin. You'll have to re-root and put your custom recovery back on. Back everything up before starting as Odin will wipe your device.
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Here is the loki zip flashable in recovery.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yhrq0tia8512rj9/AAB3C9mLkMe_WeHQgP4QHiKra/loki-doki.zip
I haven't used or kept up with CWM for several years. So, don't know if it loki's a rom/kernel if dev hasn't loki'd rom/kernel.
You can Google loki-doki. But it is how we on MDL can flash custom roms/recoveries/kernels and those above MDL can't. It bypasses Sammy's security and allows kernel to flash. Newer builds are locked down and no similar exploit has been developed yet for them.
Once you get sorted as jd mentioned, use it right before you reboot. Doesn't hurt even if rom/kernel is not loki'd.
:good::good:
BTW, you didn't have issues before bc most att roms esp TW are loki'd--
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You're probably going to have to use Odin and start all over again. If you're able to use twrp or cwm recovery you're on mdl firmware. You can get that at sammobile.com. Extract it with 7-zip or winrar and use the .tar.md5 in Odin. You'll have to re-root and put your custom recovery back on. Back everything up before starting as Odin will wipe your device.
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rugmankc said:
Here is the loki zip flashable in recovery.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yhrq0tia8512rj9/AAB3C9mLkMe_WeHQgP4QHiKra/loki-doki.zip
I haven't used or kept up with CWM for several years. So, don't know if it loki's a rom/kernel if dev hasn't loki'd rom/kernel.
You can Google loki-doki. But it is how we on MDL can flash custom roms/recoveries/kernels and those above MDL can't. It bypasses Sammy's security and allows kernel to flash. Newer builds are locked down and no similar exploit has been developed yet for them.
Once you get sorted as jd mentioned, use it right before you reboot. Doesn't hurt even if rom/kernel is not loki'd.
:good::good:
BTW, you didn't have issues before bc most att roms esp TW are loki'd--
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Thanks guys.
So it seems like I have no choice but to start over completely since I can't get into recovery to flash Loki. Which sucks since I have no idea about the current procedures for rooting and getting recovery. It was pretty messy when I first got my S4 last year.
I almost want to just leave my phone as is and wait to buy a nexus 6 :cyclops:
RiG14LA said:
Thanks guys.
So it seems like I have no choice but to start over completely since I can't get into recovery to flash Loki. Which sucks since I have no idea about the current procedures for rooting and getting recovery. It was pretty messy when I first got my S4 last year.
I almost want to just leave my phone as is and wait to buy a nexus 6 :cyclops:
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It's not so bad. Use Odin to get your system up and running again. Then use this to root and get a custom recovery on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41892523
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Yes it just takes studying. I used Mottochopper also, very good. When you are done, I do recommend TWRP 2.5.0.2. Also, if you are flashing kernels always wipe caches before rebooting.
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if it has mf3 baseband i'm pretty sure you will have to use safestrap and a touchwiz rom. no cyanogen or cwm or twrp.
OP has MDL build his radio "baseband" is mf3. He can flash any radio he wants after rooted.
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iateshaggy said:
if it has mf3 baseband i'm pretty sure you will have to use safestrap and a touchwiz rom. no cyanogen or cwm or twrp.
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He's using twrp and cm. Baseband is most likely from the cm version here's on.
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rugmankc said:
Yes it just takes studying. I used Mottochopper also, very good. When you are done, I do recommend TWRP 2.5.0.2. Also, if you are flashing kernels always wipe caches before rebooting.
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I just remembered I made a recovery backup in Rashr before trying to go to CWM. So I restored that in Rashr and am now back on TWRP 2.7.0.1.
This is great but I still want to be able to flash the new CM11 nightlies and TWRP isn't compatible with CMs new kernel.
Are you guys familiar with this situation?
RiG14LA said:
I just remembered I made a recovery backup in Rashr before trying to go to CWM. So I restored that in Rashr and am now back on TWRP 2.7.0.1.
This is great but I still want to be able to flash the new CM11 nightlies and TWRP isn't compatible with CMs new kernel.
Are you guys familiar with this situation?
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When did that start. As I said I flashed M9 a few days ago with 2.5.0.2.
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When did that start. As I said I flashed M9 a few days ago with 2.5.0.2.
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The 8/8 or 8/9 nightly.
Another question...what would happen if I flash CWM with TWRP? Would CWM just over write TWRP and be my active recovery?
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The 8/8 or 8/9 nightly.
Another question...what would happen if I flash CWM with TWRP? Would CWM just over write TWRP and be my active recovery?
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Yes I change recoveries as needed but have been on current for awhile. Read up on flashing CWM to be sure you know of any issues and exact steps. If it is a zip no issues should be encountered. Never liked to use Rom MGR.
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Read last 7 pages of cm11 thread. They talked about changing updater script of cm rom. If you flash CWM recovery zip remember to flash loki before rebooting. Uncheck sig check in twrp before flashing CWM. You can't restore twrp nandroid with CWM and vice versa. They list a flashable CWM zip there too.
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Also, My M9 milestone seems to be last stable build--many reboots etc on recent nightlies. But, that is part of the game with nightlies. As I "age" I need more stable roms--less stress--
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RiG14LA said:
I just remembered I made a recovery backup in Rashr before trying to go to CWM. So I restored that in Rashr and am now back on TWRP 2.7.0.1.
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Oh, the salvation of nandroids--:good::good:
I used an app like Rashr long time ago, but didn't like it. Maybe not a bad idea to have it and keep a backup just in case--

Trouble flashing ANY custom rom!

Hey all, Ive had this weird issue lately when it comes to to flashing custom roms. I Have just rooted and unlocked the bootloader on my phone and i want to install a custom rom
but every time i try to flash it in twrp it fails and says "This package is for build hltetmo your device is ."
My phone IS hltetmo so im very confused on whats going on here
Any help?
Ferkacete said:
Hey all, Ive had this weird issue lately when it comes to to flashing custom roms. I Have just rooted and unlocked the bootloader on my phone and i want to install a custom rom
but every time i try to flash it in twrp it fails and says "This package is for build hltetmo your device is ."
My phone IS hltetmo so im very confused on whats going on here
Any help?
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What recovery are you using? Some (<= android 6) ROMs require TWRP 2.8.7 hltevzw and some (>= android 7) require TWRP 3.1.1 hlte or higher.
cssr said:
What recovery are you using? Some (<= android 6) ROMs require TWRP 2.8.7 hltevzw and some (>= android 7) require TWRP 3.1.1 hlte or higher.
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Im using twrp and the recovery img i used is called twrp-2.8.7.0-hltevzw-4.4.img.tar and im lollipop with OF1
The roms im trying to flash are Oreo roms so does that mean i need a more updated version of twrp?
Ferkacete said:
Im using twrp and the recovery img i used is called twrp-2.8.7.0-hltevzw-4.4.img.tar and im lollipop with OF1
The roms im trying to flash are Oreo roms so does that mean i need a more updated version of twrp?
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Yes! You need TWRP 3.1.1hlte (not hltevzw) or higher. You can install it in recovery, then go back to TWRPs main screen, select reboot and then select recovery. If you don't reboot into recovery the install will not stick.
https://dl.twrp.me/hlte/twrp-3.2.3-0-hlte.img.html
This a link to the right .img file. To install, at TWRPs main screen select install, go to the folder where the file is, at the bottom right you will see " install image " select that, then select the TWRP .img file, it will ask boot or recovery select recovery, then back to the main screen to reboot into recovery. As always make a backup first in case something goes wrong!
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Yes! You need TWRP 3.1.1hlte (not hltevzw) or higher. You can install it in recovery, then go back to TWRPs main screen, select reboot and then select recovery. If you don't reboot into recovery the install will not stick.
https://dl.twrp.me/hlte/twrp-3.2.3-0-hlte.img.html
This a link to the right .img file. To install, at TWRPs main screen select install, go to the folder where the file is, at the bottom right you will see " install image " select that, then select the TWRP .img file, it will ask boot or recovery select recovery, then back to the main screen to reboot into recovery. As always make a backup first in case something goes wrong!
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The roms work now! Thank you so much
Ferkacete said:
The roms work now! Thank you so much
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Great!
cssr said:
Yes! You need TWRP 3.1.1hlte (not hltevzw) or higher. You can install it in recovery, then go back to TWRPs main screen, select reboot and then select recovery. If you don't reboot into recovery the install will not stick.
https://dl.twrp.me/hlte/twrp-3.2.3-0-hlte.img.html
This a link to the right .img file. To install, at TWRPs main screen select install, go to the folder where the file is, at the bottom right you will see " install image " select that, then select the TWRP .img file, it will ask boot or recovery select recovery, then back to the main screen to reboot into recovery. As always make a backup first in case something goes wrong!
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I can't get TWRP to stick. Can u help?
jerryspring said:
I can't get TWRP to stick. Can u help?
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Did you reboot into recovery after installing the update. You must install the update and then reboot into recovery. If you reboot into the system the update will be lost!
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Did you reboot into recovery after installing the update. You must install the update and then reboot into recovery. If you reboot into the system the update will be lost!
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Seems as if I have both recoveries. SS and twrp
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Did you reboot into recovery after installing the update. You must install the update and then reboot into recovery. If you reboot into the system the update will be lost!
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Yea. I did. I am on 4.3 boot loader, and I flashed sepl1 modem. Baseband says sepl1 even though I'm on 4.3 boot loader. Even when I flash stock ROM, the stock ROM won't flash, even though Odin says successful
jerryspring said:
Seems as if I have both recoveries. SS and twrp
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Yea. I did. I am on 4.3 boot loader, and I flashed sepl1 modem. Baseband says sepl1 even though I'm on 4.3 boot loader. Even when I flash stock ROM, the stock ROM won't flash, even though Odin says successful
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Try to install the full stock ...OF1 ROM. Samsung will not let you down grade from Android 5.0 to 4.3 and your baseband is showing up as 5.0. After installation of OF1 unlock the bootloader, then install twrp with Odin. After that you can install a custom ROM and the PL1 modem.
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Try to install the full stock ...OF1 ROM. Samsung will not let you down grade from Android 5.0 to 4.3 and your baseband is showing up as 5.0. After installation of OF1 unlock the bootloader, then install twrp with Odin. After that you can install a custom ROM and the PL1 modem.
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I thought bootloader unlock was only capable with 4.4...and will the stock firmware flash successfully? and I don't know why it did not last successfully. I originally came from mje firmware and I was flashing 5.0
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Try to install the full stock ...OF1 ROM. Samsung will not let you down grade from Android 5.0 to 4.3 and your baseband is showing up as 5.0. After installation of OF1 unlock the bootloader, then install twrp with Odin. After that you can install a custom ROM and the PL1 modem.
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I tried flashing of1.. it goes to blue writing saying recovery booting and hangs. Stock firmware will not flash!

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