I've googled this question for a few hours now but can't seem to come to a conclusion. I've ran "dmesg | grep wlan" in the terminal but nothing of use shows (or I'm just not noticing what I need to). Anyways, what type of internal wireless device does the sgh-i337 use? Also, I've done some research on what chipsets are but it really isn't making much sense. Are there also wireless chipsets? Or does the main wireless device tie into the phones chipset itself?
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I've googled this question for a few hours now but can't seem to come to a conclusion. I've ran "dmesg | grep wlan" in the terminal but nothing of use shows (or I'm just not noticing what I need to). Anyways, what type of internal wireless device does the sgh-i337 use? Also, I've done some research on what chipsets are but it really isn't making much sense. Are there also wireless chipsets? Or does the main wireless device tie into the phones chipset itself?
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A chipset, from my understanding is just the guts of an integrated circuit. Most people would understand what you are referring to when you use "wireless chipset" but I believe the proper reference would be "wireless module" which in turn contains the chipset.
That being said, the only info I could dig up on the net and somewhere else in these forums is that is using a Broadcom chipset, I believe is BCM4335. When I run "dmesg" and painfully scroll through the results, I only see a reference to the NFC chipset 'bcm2079'.
Anyone, please feel free to correct me, without a source I'm kinda guessing here.
I believe its Qualcomm and I know its Wireless AC and backwards. I break 70 with an AC router.
What do you mean by AC? Also what do you mean by breaking 70 w/ AC? Forgive me, I'm not so up to date on my acronyms.
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What do you mean by AC? Also what do you mean by breaking 70 w/ AC? Forgive me, I'm not so up to date on my acronyms.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac Basically the latest and greatest wireless technology (a replacement for Wireless N)
Probably referring to breaking 70/Mbps (not sure though)
Wireless AC is (in my opinion) not worth it right now. It's impressive, boasting speeds up to ~1.3Gbps but it's still a "draft" right now. If your looking to upgrade your router, I would hold off until the 2nd gen Wireless AC devices are available, which are claiming (theoretically) up to ~3.4Gbps.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac Basically the latest and greatest wireless technology (a replacement for Wireless N)
Probably referring to breaking 70/Mbps (not sure though)
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Wireless AC is (in my opinion) not worth it right now. It's impressive, boasting speeds up to ~1.3Gbps but it's still a "draft" right now. If your looking to upgrade your router, I would hold off until the 2nd gen Wireless AC devices are available, which are claiming (theoretically) up to ~3.4Gbps.
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You mean I have to buy another one!?!?! LMAO... It was kind of an impulse buy, but I do have a Wireless AC Media Bridge and the S4 uses AC... My S3 would have a link state of 135mbps, I get 351mbps with the S4. A speedtest isn't accurate, it hit 70 at the end of the test, so I know it's capable of the full bandwidth I get of 115.
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You mean I have to buy another one!?!?! LMAO... It was kind of an impulse buy, but I do have a Wireless AC Media Bridge and the S4 uses AC... My S3 would have a link state of 135mbps, I get 351mbps with the S4. A speedtest isn't accurate, it hit 70 at the end of the test, so I know it's capable of the full bandwidth I get of 115.
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2nd gen Wireless AC access points are supposed to have MU-MIMO antennas, so it "should" maintain better throughput with multiple single antenna devices connected, like cell phones and tablets.
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2nd gen Wireless AC access points are supposed to have MU-MIMO antennas, so it "should" maintain better throughput with multiple single antenna devices connected, like cell phones and tablets.
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Well I'll have to get one once they're available.... I'm still waiting on Half-Height Mini PCI-E 3x3 cards for the laptops.
Just in case you're wondering, or for other people info, my Home Network setup is:
EA6500 Router
WUMC710-AC Wireless Media Bridge (TV, BluRay, 360, AppleTV)
RE2000 Dual-Band N Range Extender
Bigfoot Killer-N 1103 in both the laptops.
For some reason I get a 450mbps Link State with the Laptops with only 2 antennas. 450Mbps in Windows, 300Mbps in Linux
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Well I'll have to get one once they're available.... I'm still waiting on Half-Height Mini PCI-E 3x3 cards for the laptops.
Just in case you're wondering, or for other people info, my Home Network setup is:
EA6500 Router
WUMC710-AC Wireless Media Bridge (TV, BluRay, 360, AppleTV)
RE2000 Dual-Band N Range Extender
Bigfoot Killer-N 1103 in both the laptops.
For some reason I get a 450mbps Link State with the Laptops with only 2 antennas. 450Mbps in Windows, 300Mbps in Linux
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Faster link/connection speed isn't always better (throughput is where its at). For instance, using my E4200 and an older wireless N laptop, I have far superior throughput w/ a 65Mbps link/connection speed than w/ a 150Mbps link/connection speed. Basically I can move a lot more data over the same amount of time with a slower link/connection speed.
If Linksys (or DD-WRT if you're feeling bold) even allows you to change the channel width, you could investigate that. If you have no need for Wireless N (or the 2.4Ghz radio spectrum) then turn it off and just use Wireless AC w/ an 80Mhz channel width. Google kismet for linux (not sure what to use for Windows) so that you can see what channel and spectrum your neighbors are using so you can switch to a less "noisy" channel.
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Faster link/connection speed isn't always better (throughput is where its at). For instance, using my E4200 and an older wireless N laptop, I have far superior throughput w/ a 65Mbps link/connection speed than w/ a 150Mbps link/connection speed. Basically I can move a lot more data over the same amount of time with a slower link/connection speed.
If Linksys (or DD-WRT if you're feeling bold) even allows you to change the channel width, you could investigate that. If you have no need for Wireless N (or the 2.4Ghz radio spectrum) then turn it off and just use Wireless AC w/ an 80Mhz channel width. Google kismet for linux (not sure what to use for Windows) so that you can see what channel and spectrum your neighbors are using so you can switch to a less "noisy" channel.
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The EA6500 has a Qualcomm chip, sadly it's not capable of DD-WRT. Regarding local throughput, I would just have to perform some real-world tests.
I would disable the 2.4Ghz Network but there are some older devices like my Niece's iPod 4g and OG iPad that need it.
I can't go full AC yet, the laptops only have Dual-Band N cards, Bigfoot Killer-N 1103, I'm still waiting on AC cards.
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and with this internet speed over Wireless using the 5Ghz N:
MODS: Sorry for the OT, but it just illustrates how having a top-notch wireless network + ridiculous internet speeds, the S4 can use ALL of it.
Here is my Speedtest, but I'm convinced I will hit my max of 115 if the test ran longer. I will try Speakeasy.
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I Have Atrix with netrino rom 2.2ee. but general question anyone getting 150Mbps link speed thru there router? best i can get is 72Mbps and coworker has Atrix2 he gets 64Mbps.
Are you paying for 150mbps?! I don't even want to image THAT bill :O
Well, here's a question. Is anything else connected to the router while you're performing these speed tests?
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I Have Atrix with netrino rom 2.2ee. but general question anyone getting 150Mbps link speed thru there router? best i can get is 72Mbps and coworker has Atrix2 he gets 64Mbps.
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How are you performing your test?I can't imagine a reliable test could even be performed on the atrix.
Even for my phone the results vary. The results on the speedtest.net app will be much different then visiting speedtest.net on the browser (obviously not default I use opera)
Anyways what type of service do you have?
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I Have Atrix with netrino rom 2.2ee. but general question anyone getting 150Mbps link speed thru there router? best i can get is 72Mbps and coworker has Atrix2 he gets 64Mbps.
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You talking about your actual internet speed dl, or file transfer speed within your network? I cannot get 150Mbps through my router with file transfers. I max out at 25Mbps with my internet speed, but that's all the bandwidth I get anyway.
The speed depends on what the hardware is capable of. The 802.11n standard supports up to 300Mbps in theory. In theory because hardware hasn't been made that is capable of transmitting at that speed. And he is no doubt talking about through a local network. If he is talking about internet bandwidth, I envy him lol.
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I Have Atrix with netrino rom 2.2ee. but general question anyone getting 150Mbps link speed thru there router? best i can get is 72Mbps and coworker has Atrix2 he gets 64Mbps.
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I am assuming the OP is referring to the modulation rate his phone is connecting to the router with. I don't know a lot about the wireless adapter in the Atrix aside from it being able to do 802.11 a/b/g/n. However, I am pretty sure the N capability of the wireless adapter has the highest modulation rate of 72Mbps when running on 1 chain in a 20Mhz channel (to my knowledge the Atrix only has one Wi-Fi antenna in it). So assuming you have a great Wi-Fi signal to your wireless router and low noise, 72Mbps is the highest modulation rate your phone will achieve. In order to achieve 150Mbps, the wireless access point you connect would have to be running in 40Mhz channels before the phone could benefit from the router's 150Mbps capability.
Since the Atrix is 802.11a capable, I bought a dual band router and reap the benefits of being the only one in my neighborhood using a 5Ghz capable router. While I only connect at best with 54Mbps, I can still gobble up 11Mbps down. Not too shabby.
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The speed depends on what the hardware is capable of. The 802.11n standard supports up to 300Mbps in theory. In theory because hardware hasn't been made that is capable of transmitting at that speed.
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If you want to shell out some cash you can get a router that in theory can reach 450Mbps with the matching adapter. I don't know of a laptop or other device that comes on the shelf with that type of adapter. The routers and adapters have a 3x3 setup, so if all three chains are enabled, and you live in a Faraday cage, you could theoretically get 450Mbps out of it. A bit extreme right now, as most people don't have a clue about the benefits of 5Ghz and using that for media like set top boxes home media streaming. LinkSys actually have a nice 4 port Wi-Fi adapter specifically for that. Plus in your PS3, XBox, satellite receiver and Popcorn Hour and you are good to go! No wires needed with the exception of the cables to the adapter.
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The speed depends on what the hardware is capable of. The 802.11n standard supports up to 300Mbps in theory. In theory because hardware hasn't been made that is capable of transmitting at that speed. And he is no doubt talking about through a local network. If he is talking about internet bandwidth, I envy him lol.
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Worlds fastest wireless network - 1.2Tbps.
But yeah, you're right............traditional wireless won't do it.
yea its plenty fast at the 72 i connect was just curious because the laptop connects at different speed. I have samba share installed so have a network drive from phone so just seeing if had any input. I did notice when looking in my router lastnight that when i connected at my 72 that it actually does go faster in burst. my router has dd-wrt so shows connected devices and stats i saw it change connection speeds up to like 110 briefly. so it should be good.
It may interest you that in the UK the government agency that polices advertising made the Wifi people take the speeds off their ads*. IRL none of the G access points ever made 54 MBps nor the B 11mbs. It is always the same, people quoting perfect condition maximums which are never achievable.
* Try going to linksys dot co dot uk and have a look at their ads (can't post links yet)
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I am assuming the OP is referring to the modulation rate his phone is connecting to the router with. I don't know a lot about the wireless adapter in the Atrix aside from it being able to do 802.11 a/b/g/n. However, I am pretty sure the N capability of the wireless adapter has the highest modulation rate of 72Mbps when running on 1 chain in a 20Mhz channel (to my knowledge the Atrix only has one Wi-Fi antenna in it). So assuming you have a great Wi-Fi signal to your wireless router and low noise, 72Mbps is the highest modulation rate your phone will achieve. In order to achieve 150Mbps, the wireless access point you connect would have to be running in 40Mhz channels before the phone could benefit from the router's 150Mbps capability.
Since the Atrix is 802.11a capable, I bought a dual band router and reap the benefits of being the only one in my neighborhood using a 5Ghz capable router. While I only connect at best with 54Mbps, I can still gobble up 11Mbps down. Not too shabby.
If you want to shell out some cash you can get a router that in theory can reach 450Mbps with the matching adapter. I don't know of a laptop or other device that comes on the shelf with that type of adapter. The routers and adapters have a 3x3 setup, so if all three chains are enabled, and you live in a Faraday cage, you could theoretically get 450Mbps out of it. A bit extreme right now, as most people don't have a clue about the benefits of 5Ghz and using that for media like set top boxes home media streaming. LinkSys actually have a nice 4 port Wi-Fi adapter specifically for that. Plus in your PS3, XBox, satellite receiver and Popcorn Hour and you are good to go! No wires needed with the exception of the cables to the adapter.
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So the Atrix is 5Ghz capable? You said 802.11a.. It won't work at 802.11n in that frequency? It's so noisy in this area in the 2.4 range when I do a spectrum sweep there is no clean frequency. Im thinking of grabbing a 2.4 CPE with 36 dBm transmit power and place it on my kitchen counter. I'll blast every router in range out haha
Mine too. Both Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime and SE Xperia Ray are all max out at 72 Mbps.
I connect to the 5Ghz frequency at my home everyday. Seems faster than the 2.4 connection. I can't comment on battery savings though.
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i was curious does anyone have really bad wifi connection on there Nexus 7? I need to know because i need to know if its my nexus 7 or do i need to move my router closer to my bedroom and nexus? im hoping its something simple as moving my router but im checking with all u folks first.....
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There's an app for that. WiFi analyzer
My N7 picks up my router throughout my entire house, no problem.
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ty guys for ur help. i just want to hear back from a few more people to make sure, ty guys
It's weird because it finds my Wifi at home ok, but using my S3 as a hotspot right next to it only gets me like 1 bar.
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It's weird because it finds my Wifi at home ok, but using my S3 as a hotspot right next to it only gets me like 1 bar.
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i used the WIFI analyzer and i found out that i was using the weakest channel on my router for wifi! so I was able to change channels to a much stronger wifi strength
My nexus7 reception remains very strong also, throughout my entire house. I also have the tf201 and the nexus7 blows it out of the water. Wifi analyzer shows a good 30% more signal on my n7 vs my tf201. Additionally, GPS signal is very solid as well. I get 7 birds in house and 11 as soon as i walk outside.
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i used the WIFI analyzer and i found out that i was using the weakest channel on my router for wifi! so I was able to change channels to a much stronger wifi strength
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WiFi analyzer cannot help me change channels on my Galaxy SIII. That's where I see poor reception. At just a few feet away too.
If I hold it in portrait orientation and cover the left side of the tablet (top 1/3) my reception drops 1-2 bars. It increases again when I move my hand away. I noticed this when I was lying on the couch with the tablet resting on my chest in portrait mode, and I had my left hand holding the tablet at the top left side. If I held it on the right-hand side (with my right hand) and moved my left hand away from the tablet then my reception improved. Put my left hand back up, signal strength decreased. This only happens if I'm far away from the wifi source. If I'm close to the source then my hand position doesn't seem to affect the reception at all.
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If I hold it in portrait orientation and cover the left side of the tablet (top 1/3) my reception drops 1-2 bars. It increases again when I move my hand away. I noticed this when I was lying on the couch with the tablet resting on my chest in portrait mode, and I had my left hand holding the tablet at the top left side. If I held it on the right-hand side (with my right hand) and moved my left hand away from the tablet then my reception improved. Put my left hand back up, signal strength decreased. This only happens if I'm far away from the wifi source. If I'm close to the source then my hand position doesn't seem to affect the reception at all.
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Not sure if you have had a chance to see the internal layout of the Nexus 7 but that area is exactly where the wifi antenna is located. I have noticed the same signal drop (10–20db on wifi analyzer). It is worse in landscape because your hand naturally rests there. But it hasn't been too much of an issue. I had my router transmitting at 30mW and just kicked it up to 80mW and I am good to go. I remind myself for $200, the Nexus is good but still far from perfect. If you look into the reason this device was built, it makes sense. Its sole purpose is to drum up tablet software developement for android, not so much to be an iPad killer, that is still to come.
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i was curious does anyone have really bad wifi connection on there Nexus 7? I need to know because i need to know if its my nexus 7 or do i need to move my router closer to my bedroom and nexus? im hoping its something simple as moving my router but im checking with all u folks first.....
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My N7 wireless is good. I am comparing it with my Samsung Galaxy S2 which is much weaker than the N7 across the whole house. Mind you I am using a good wireless router 7800N from Billion which has got good wireless ratings.
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My N7 wireless is good. I am comparing it with my Samsung Galaxy S2 which is much weaker than the N7 across the whole house. Mind you I am using a good wireless router 7800N from Billion which has got good wireless ratings.
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My wifi reception is poorer than both my HTC Desire Z phone and laptops etc, judged by it losing reception in the furthest room in the house (approx 15m from the router, in a pretty solid Victorian house).
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My wifi reception is poorer than both my HTC Desire Z phone and laptops etc, judged by it losing reception in the furthest room in the house (approx 15m from the router, in a pretty solid Victorian house).
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As suggested by other users, I think really worth to install wifi analyzer from Google Play then you can see a direct comparison rather than looking at the bars. Solid walls are not good for wifi and it is only fair if you compare distance base on line of sight. If you are using 802.11n 2.4Ghz then try different channels and also try changing channel width to 20Mhz can improve it but dropping from 40Mhz will reduce the max possible speed to 150Mbps.
wifi on any asus made tablet I owned has been never as good as other brands....stil works great but never full bars like my laptop or any apple product I own. Maybe its a android thing as my android phones are the same weak wifi. Nothing bad just less bars.
Depending on the model of your router, you might look into flashing DD-WRT on it (think of it as analogous to flashing a custom ROM on your phone/tablet). There are options to increase range on it.
The nexus 7 has very good signal strength and I get full bars while sitting 15 feet away from router with no walls. I can't try more than this distance because that's how big my room is and if I go outside of room then the walls comes in between and of course the strength drops.
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So far in the week I've had my n7... WiFi is notably weaker than on my laptop or iPad in the same locations so I suspect they've compromised on the aerial during design and construction. I can't determine if it suffers from an apple style 'grip of death' issue but I try holding it in different ways to see if it helps.
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My wifi is awesome until I try to stream an HD YouTube video then it buffers like crazy. Very annoying. Anyone got a fix??
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I've tested my Nexus 7 with 5 access points at the house with great signal and speed, and at work which has a large roving WiFi system with equally the same response.
If your access point is properly configured you should have no problems.
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Hey guys, I was wondering if you could help me figure this out.
I was wondering what the theoretical maximum download speed for the nexus 7 is. When testing my internet connection (speedtest.net) on my pc my download speed is 70Mbps, upload is 10Mbps, which is also my maximum speed (I live 3km away from my provider) When running the test on my nexus 7 with their speed test app downloaded via Google play, I only get around 30-33mbps. Sometimes I'll get a speed of 36 and the highest I've gotten in 40, but this only happens VERY rarely. So I've been trying to figure out if something is set up wrong.
I tried:
different channels from 1 until 11 (12 and 13 don't work)
20 and 40hz, and both simultaneously.
set the router to operate on b/g/n as well as N only
Security is wpa2
inkspeed on the tablet says 65Mbps
Distance : standing next to the router
My router is a netgear R6300. (http://www.netgear.com/R6300#two)
My question is, am I an idiot for thinking that I'm not getting max speed, while ~33mbps is the actual maximum speed that the nexus 7 is capable of. Or am I having connection issues. If so what steps could I take to solve them.
You have my thanks,
One reason I can think of is nexus 7 can not use the 5mhz band in your router, thats why you may be getting half speeds than you are expecting.
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One reason I can think of is nexus 7 can not use the 5mhz band in your router, thats why you may be getting half speeds than you are expecting.
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I thought about that as well, but my router support wifi N up to 450Mbps on the 2.4ghz freq, so I'm not really sure that's a limiting factor.
70Mbps download. That's fast.
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Hey guys, I was wondering if you could help me figure this out.
I was wondering what the theoretical maximum download speed for the nexus 7 is. When testing my internet connection (speedtest.net) on my pc my download speed is 70Mbps, upload is 10Mbps, which is also my maximum speed (I live 3km away from my provider) When running the test on my nexus 7 with their speed test app downloaded via Google play, I only get around 30-33mbps. Sometimes I'll get a speed of 36 and the highest I've gotten in 40, but this only happens VERY rarely. So I've been trying to figure out if something is set up wrong.
I tried:
different channels from 1 until 11 (12 and 13 don't work)
20 and 40hz, and both simultaneously.
set the router to operate on b/g/n as well as N only
Security is wpa2
inkspeed on the tablet says 65Mbps
Distance : standing next to the router
My router is a netgear R6300. (http://www.netgear.com/R6300#two)
My question is, am I an idiot for thinking that I'm not getting max speed, while ~33mbps is the actual maximum speed that the nexus 7 is capable of. Or am I having connection issues. If so what steps could I take to solve them.
You have my thanks,
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I'm on 60 Meg download and 3 Meg upload and I get the same speeds as you on my nexus using the speedtest app. I think they are the max wireless speeds we can get.
My ipad 3 maxes out at 20 Meg which is surprising.
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70Mbps download. That's fast.
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It's relatively slow We have fiber 500 down and 500 up available here, but It's not yet available in my particular area. I bought the router for that reason. Actually bums me out that I'm going to have 500 mbps available to me, but don't have any devices that can actually benefit from it besides my pc....
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I'm on 60 Meg download and 3 Meg upload and I get the same speeds as you on my nexus using the speedtest app. I think they are the max wireless speeds we can get.
My ipad 3 maxes out at 20 Meg which is surprising.
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Thanks for testing that out, I figured as much. I found another thread where someone mentions that he's also maxing out at around 33mbps.
Although a bit further down the topic, a guy posted a screenshot of his nexus 7 achieving ~47 mbps. Guess he got lucky?..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1787199&page=2
Your speeds are actually alright. The n7 doesn't have good wifi imo. I am connected to a 100/2 connection in Australia (fastest consumer connection available to my knowledge lol) and I only get about 25/2 on my n7.
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Your speeds are actually alright. The n7 doesn't have good wifi imo. I am connected to a 100/2 connection in Australia (fastest consumer connection available to my knowledge lol) and I only get about 25/2 on my n7.
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Kind of sucks that google went cheapo on the wifi. Would have hoped they would have at least went the 5ghz route. But at least it confirms that there is nothing wrong with my router or wifi settings, but that the nexus 7 just maxed out at ~33Mbps. Surprisingly my GSII does 40~42Mbps.
you guys are lucky bastards. living in rural canada, i get 1.5/0.5 on a good day!
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you guys are lucky bastards. living in rural canada, i get 1.5/0.5 on a good day!
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That must be pretty annoying! Here in Australia, most people have connections around the 10/1 mark which is actually a joke for a developed metropolitan area. Luckily fibre infrastructure upgrade are under way!
I live in a metropolitan and manage fine with my 4/0.5 amidst all the fibre optic and vdsl.
Admitted, 0.5 upload does get annoying in some cases. But hey, it's cheap as hell and unlimited bandwidth!
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I live in a metropolitan and manage fine with my 4/0.5 amidst all the fibre optic and vdsl.
Admitted, 0.5 upload does get annoying in some cases. But hey, it's cheap as hell and unlimited bandwidth!
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Thats the problem with connections here. They are not cheap and offer limited bandwidth. i.e. my mate is on an adsl2+ connection that only manages 4 down and 0.7up. He pays $70 a month for 200gb.
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you guys are lucky bastards. living in rural canada, i get 1.5/0.5 on a good day!
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Haha, well we wouldn't be on xda if we didn't wanna push our devices to the limit right
smt8544 said:
Thats the problem with connections here. They are not cheap and offer limited bandwidth. i.e. my mate is on an adsl2+ connection that only manages 4 down and 0.7up. He pays $70 a month for 200gb.
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Wow... I pay 35 and that includes unlimited calls to landlines, national and international.
People here are always complaining how we're overcharged for our network, compared to for instance the Netherlands. And it did take me quite a while to get this deal, literally the cheapest in the country.
But 70 for the same speeds with a 200gb limit, that seems insane!
Logic_ said:
Wow... I pay 35 and that includes unlimited calls to landlines, national and international.
People here are always complaining how we're overcharged for our network, compared to for instance the Netherlands. And it did take me quite a while to get this deal, literally the cheapest in the country.
But 70 for the same speeds with a 200gb limit, that seems insane!
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Our internet here is pretty cheap indeed, since it also comes combined with a land line and a tv package. Prices for our mobile network are of the charts tho'.
hey guys.. i was only getting 10 or so meg down on my 50+ meg connection and I wanted to let you know I fixed it to get what you are getting by removing my bluetooth connection. Turns out, the bluetooth and wifi are handled by one chip so when its busy handing a bluetooth connection, it chops down the download speed of the wifi! So, if you dont need the bluetooth connection, dont use it. (I was using tablet talk to my phone over bluetooth, i swithched it to wifi and that fixed it)
51 mbps max
Hey guys, i live in IIT Delhi, INDIA. Via ethernet we get 100 down and 70-80up (100/70). But my nexus 7 2013 maxes out at 51mbps only. I checked using galaxy s5, s5 showed 90 download. So it is pretty much confirmed they put a limit, or maybe the technology is out dated...
Sorry guys, just get really excited - we just got our 125Mbit connection with Virgin installed today, and their new router is 5GHz capable....and I wasn't aware that the One is 5GHz capable, so I just tried it out. To my massive surprise the download speed actually went past 100Mbit....on a PHONE. Am I the only person who finds it absolutely mindblowing that we are getting that kind of speeds wireless,and on something that fits in our pockets? Are there any other phones capable of this?
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You should learn more how to use photo editing software. This is good example how lame ur in this matter.
Mike
sp5it said:
You should learn more how to use photo editing software. This is good example how lame ur in this matter.
Mike
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Where does this look photoshopped Mr Condescending?
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sp5it said:
You should learn more how to use photo editing software. This is good example how lame ur in this matter.
Mike
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Sorry,but you made me so angry that I just had to grab a camera and record a video of how well it works.
http://youtu.be/iPBlviOJ5Mc
I expect apologies, it's not often that I am called a liar on the Internet, but when that happens it's usually by people who have nothing to prove their statements, like you sp5it. Shame.
Only got 60MB here on Virgin - but yeah - download speeds of 47260kbps+ etc.
I know the HTC One X & Sony Xperia Z all have 5GHz capabilities - so it's not limited to the One - I would guess that nearly, if not all, new high end phones have 5GHz capability.
It's great that it works - but boy do you notice a difference when you're out and about and stuck on 3G!
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You should learn more how to use photo editing software. This is good example how lame ur in this matter.
Mike
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Get laid
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The one and the s4 are the only phones with the WiFi ac standard though. Only a few routers are ac capable, though.
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sp5it said:
You should learn more how to use photo editing software. This is good example how lame ur in this matter.
Mike
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...wow
sp5it said:
You should learn more how to use photo editing software. This is good example how lame ur in this matter.
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WTF is that all about???
Got this on my 5 GHz
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gambiting said:
Sorry,but you made me so angry that I just had to grab a camera and record a video of how well it works.
http://youtu.be/iPBlviOJ5Mc
I expect apologies, it's not often that I am called a liar on the Internet, but when that happens it's usually by people who have nothing to prove their statements, like you sp5it. Shame.
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people gonna hate buddy, i have an ac capable router just got it a month ago, and i love it!! speeds are incredible. i have a 30mbps connection and im rocking all 30 mb lol
As others have said, there are previous generation phones and routers that had 5GHz capabilities.
Used my HTC One X on 5Ghz with virgin cable router , been on their 100Mmb tariff for approximately two years.
Agree that up and downlink via 5GHz wi fi gives impressive transfer speeds, even without ac capability
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Rogers LTE MAX has theoretical speeds of 150mbs down.. I only get 1 bar where I live and can get about 60mbs.. nothing compared to your home speeds tho lol. My home WiFi is 30 down.
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Just curious, what are these Virgin routers? Are they cable modem based? I have Time Warner and I get about 30mbps.
What is an ac/router?
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As a networking student...
What in the world does 5GHz have to do with this?
The Wi-Fi 802.11n-standard is capable of up to about 300 Mbps for the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands. Some products achieve higher, the the initial N-standard was for up to 300 Mbps.
5 GHz uses wider bands and is less congested (because 5GHz still ain't that common and that it has plenty more channels to reduce interference) which should grant a tad better local performance and responsiveness. This isn't necessarily the case though.
See, the disadvantages of 5 GHz is that, being a much higher frequency, the range is actually worse than that of 2.4 GHz. Furthermore 5 GHz is also worse at penetrating walls and other solid objects (making the range even worse between different rooms).
Back to my point nonetheless, I believe the source of these speeds are routers using modern standards (N and/or AC) as opposed to the older G-standard (54 Mbps) rather than the use of the 5 GHz band.
tl;dr... 5 GHz might increase throughput a bit, but no doubt the same results are possible with the 2.4 GHz band.
EDIT: Don't mean to sound like a smartass, just thought since it seems several people here seems to be under the impression that 5 GHz will make your network speeds and all better with no downsides. Whilst this is true to some degree, it does suffer in range, especially though walls and objects (i.e between rooms).
sp5it said:
You should learn more how to use photo editing software. This is good example how lame ur in this matter.
Mike
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sp5it said:
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Mike
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He mad tho'
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Where is the "Un Thank" button in this forum?
what a tool
Timmyfoxeh said:
As a networking student...
What in the world does 5GHz have to do with this?
The Wi-Fi 802.11n-standard is capable of up to about 300 Mbps for the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands. Some products achieve higher, the the initial N-standard was for up to 300 Mbps.
5 GHz uses wider bands and is less congested (because 5GHz still ain't that common and that it has plenty more channels to reduce interference) which should grant a tad better local performance and responsiveness. This isn't necessarily the case though.
See, the disadvantages of 5 GHz is that, being a much higher frequency, the range is actually worse than that of 2.4 GHz. Furthermore 5 GHz is also worse at penetrating walls and other solid objects (making the range even worse between different rooms).
Back to my point nonetheless, I believe the source of these speeds are routers using modern standards (N and/or AC) as opposed to the older G-standard (54 Mbps) rather than the use of the 5 GHz band.
tl;dr... 5 GHz might increase throughput a bit, but no doubt the same results are possible with the 2.4 GHz band.
EDIT: Don't mean to sound like a smartass, just thought since it seems several people here seems to be under the impression that 5 GHz will make your network speeds and all better with no downsides. Whilst this is true to some degree, it does suffer in range, especially though walls and objects (i.e between rooms).
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You've got my support on this one, I actually understand what 5GHz means in terms of wireless bands and I was highly confused why people think it has anything to do with speed. I've gotten faster speeds on corporate internet on the regular 2.4GHz frequency.
That being said, nice speeds, OP, sounds like you're all set!
This is kinda strange. I just got an upgrade to my internet from Comcast. My download speed has increased a little bit, but I've never seen such high upload speeds. I just wish it was the other way around. This was done on my Nexus 7.
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How to enable 5ghz wifi in H990ds?
I can't find 5ghz wifi signal in my phone. Did I need to enable manually?
How to check my wifi hardware? Any idea?
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Perhaps this fix for the V10 would resolve your issue. I've used it with a noticeable improvement on my V20, and it alters the devices use of wifi frequencies so it may have the desired effect.
Also giving your 2.5ghz and 5ghz networks seperate names should also help.
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Perhaps this fix for the V10 would resolve your issue. I've used it with a noticeable improvement on my V20, and it alters the devices use of wifi frequencies so it may have the desired effect.
Also giving your 2.5ghz and 5ghz networks seperate names should also help.
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H990DS still can't root.
Anyway thank for reply
P.s While rest of my phones found 5ghz signal, my V20 didn't see 5ghz signal with seperate name.
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H990DS still can't root.
Anyway thank for reply
P.s While rest of my phones found 5ghz signal, my V20 didn't see 5ghz signal with seperate name.
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Drat didn't realize the H990DS still didn't have root, my apologies.
I've got the same problem as well. Can't connect to 5Ghz at all. I brought one a while ago as well and that didn't work so I got a replacement today and this doesn't work at all either.
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I've got the same problem as well. Can't connect to 5Ghz at all. I brought one a while ago as well and that didn't work so I got a replacement today and this doesn't work at all either.
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Not sure, I have a HD990DS and it connects properly to my 5 GHz channel on my ASUS DSL-AC68U router
I can't see any 5GHz wifi networks either on my V20. I have different SSIDs for my 5GHz access points, and I don't see them at all, even with my phone up close!
I have a brand new V20 990DS, fresh out of the box, no updates applied (in fact, I disabled them as I didn't want to jeopardise getting root), on Android 7.0 software version V10c-TWN-XX
I don't understand how LG could have messed this up. Or other problems such as slow internet.
I may just keep buying the phone from different places and hope I'll end up getting a decent one soon.
I really like this phone with the duel screen and the DAC. One of the best phones I think you can get if the WI-FI actually worked.
Thanks Ben
well, this is odd. I only got my V20 yesterday and I couldn't put my SIM in until it was cut down; I got it cut down today and put it straight into my phone. When I got home, I found by chance that my V20 could now see my 5GHz band access point*.
I don't think I've done anything else that might have made it work, other than unsuccessfully attempt to root it. Is it possible that my phone didn't know what worldwide jurisdiction it was in so wouldn't turn on 5GHz wifi until it knew, which it would have found from the SIM?
I have one of these * Ubiquiti Unifi UAP-AC-PRO. Best thing I ever bought, ditching random dd-wrt boxes.
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well, this is odd. I only got my V20 yesterday and I couldn't put my SIM in until it was cut down; I got it cut down today and put it straight into my phone. When I got home, I found by chance that my V20 could now see my 5GHz band access point*.
I don't think I've done anything else that might have made it work, other than unsuccessfully attempt to root it. Is it possible that my phone didn't know what worldwide jurisdiction it was in so wouldn't turn on 5GHz wifi until it knew, which it would have found from the SIM?
I have one of these * Ubiquiti Unifi UAP-AC-PRO. Best thing I ever bought, ditching random dd-wrt boxes.
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That's really odd! I've never heard that before. I haven't put a sim I it yet as it wasn't working properly, so I just got a replacement which also didn't work. I'll try that tomorrow and put a new sim in it.
Does everything work now then? I've heard people say that on some of them that the Internet speed is slow, is that happening as well?
Thanks Ben
I just compared speedtest app between my laptop (which doesn't have 802.11ac, but does have .11a/5GHz. My internet connection is 35 down, 5.5 up.
Laptop (64 bit linux) gets 32.3M down, 4.8M up, which is quite respectable
LG V20 gets 22M down, 5.1M up.
Xperia Z Ultra gets 28.6 down, 4M up.
I know speedtest results can vary a lot, I ran it several times on the V20 and it struggled to get much over 20M, yet the upload was as good as any other device.
On a hunch, I took the back off the V20 and held it a little more loosely, and it had no problem getting 31M down, same upload, so pretty good! I suspect therefore that it'd be worth looking for a replacement cheap back for the V20 that's entirely plastic!
Ok well that's really odd again then. If LG knew that the back would interfere with connection then why just why.
LG's quality control is really bad.
Lol. Nothing to do with QC, more R&D and engineering.
Anyway I think you'll find the antennas are in the head- and/or chin-pieces which are made of silicon polycarbonate (plastic) and therefore no barrier to signal reception.
That's what I thought too that the bumpers have the antenna's in them. But then how would you explain the 10mbps increase? Because it makes no sense at all from my current understanding.
Also have you seen all the posts saying that they've had bad Internet speeds usually getting around 30 while another phone is getting 100-200 etc? It's all surrounding the WI-FI module. That's a QC issue.
It's not that I don't like LG either, I've had an LG G3 for 3 years and have never had a problem. In fact I could have brought an samsung s7 Edge for the same price but liked the LG more.
the problem is that the tech bloggers who review phones go through various fashions. All glass phones. All metal phones. Thin/light phones. Super high-res displays.
as a result we end up with phones that are..
* fragile (all glass),
* have poor radios (mobile signal is poor, or wifi is weak),
* have poor battery life (too thin for bigger battery),
* have poor battery (lots of CPU and GPU power to drive high-res displays).
meanwhile, the tech blogger who had the phone for only weeks, or days, or even hours, has moved on, and doesn't have to live with the phone's compromises.
You think the OEMs manufacture phones to suit bloggers?
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I just compared speedtest app between my laptop (which doesn't have 802.11ac, but does have .11a/5GHz. My internet connection is 35 down, 5.5 up.
Laptop (64 bit linux) gets 32.3M down, 4.8M up, which is quite respectable
LG V20 gets 22M down, 5.1M up.
Xperia Z Ultra gets 28.6 down, 4M up.
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I just tried to run a speed test and there are my results:
DOWNLOAD 80.15Mb/s
UPLOAD 85.03Mb/s
PING 13 ms
RATING 5/5 Stars
DEVICE LG-H990
ISP VERIZON FIOS
SERVER SOMERVILLE, MA
I had the same problem, after changing the channel from auto to 40, I could find the 5Ghz. signal on the Phone.
Changed my Speedtest from 20Mbps to 125Mbps!!
Can confirm that putting a sim card in the phone gets the 5ghz to work again but unfortunately it's slower than what it should be getting.
It's gets around 30 to 70 and is really inconsistent. It should be getting around 200 like some of my other devices.
I've sent this one back to get a replacement and hopefully that one works.
I've sent this message 3 times and and each time it got messed up
Thanks Ben