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I'll admit this is not the must scientific of tests but the best I can do.
ROM is Virtuous 3.0.1 on Droid Incredible. Quadrant scores were higher for King kernel than custom. Setcpu turned off. Lower quadrant speed was on custom.
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Well it seems the XDA app for Android will only let me upload 1 pic. Sorry about that everyone.
FWIW the Virtuous Custom kernel Quadrant speed (which didn't upload) was 1085.
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Just flashed Redemption ROM and ran Quadrant against the stock kernel installed and first run it came to 1314. I rebooted and ran it again and it came back as 1142. So I'm not seeing a real improvement against Virtuous but I have to say I do like the Redemption theme and "clean sense" of it. Nice job Lou!
Are you planning on testing the battery life, too? (Of course, that is subject to a lot of variables, too.)
Bahill: I plan to do a battery test with both of them at some point though as you rightly said there are so many variables with batteries I'm not sure what I'd be able to show. I'll let you know when/if I do it and what it looks like.
Im running Redemption Rom 2.0.4 with King #5, no setcpu at stock speed, NO OC!
Ran 3 Quadrant tests
1) 1433
2) 1463
3) 1475
and battery life is BY FAR the best out of ANY of these kernels!
Here's the Virtuous custom ROM Quadrant Score image.
DroidHam said:
Im running Redemption Rom 2.0.4 with King #5, no setcpu at stock speed, NO OC!
Ran 3 Quadrant tests
1) 1433
2) 1463
3) 1475
and battery life is BY FAR the best out of ANY of these kernels!
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Awesome! I've been meaning to try that one out.
Here's a screenshot, like I said, this is at STOCK SPEED with NO SETCPU and battery life is awesome!
I was running King's #5 as soon as I flashed the latest Virtuous (3.0.1). I've finally narrowed down my problem of "snappiness" is that it happens with King's kernals. I'm using the exact same setcpu settings on stock, custom Virtuous, and King's, and any time I'm running king's kernals, I have nothing but problems. Scrolling in the app drawer is not smooth. And the stock and custom aren't always 100% smooth, but I'm talking to get top to bottom, I can do in 1-2 swipes with custom or stock. King's takes 3-5. And within the first minute or two is 10 times worse. I do have a profile to underclock the cpu while screen is off, but stock and custom still do a MUCH better job waking up the phone. Battery life was marginally better with King's, but performance is > than battery imho. There's times I have to wait to dial a number on King's. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but I've gone back to custom because it's still snappy.....
Yeah I'd like to see batt life and just overall smoothness.
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Are you planning on testing the battery life, too? (Of course, that is subject to a lot of variables, too.)
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...like which ROM you're running...
I've had the same problem with King's kernels. My phone seemed laggy as hell running them... even when I tried overclocking.
The custom Virtuous one is smooth as silk. From what I can tell, both are pretty good on battery life. Neither of them jump out at me as being drastically better than the other.
And with the Virtuous kernel, I don't have to reselect Swype as my input every time I reboot... with King's it doesn't start back up properly each time and I have to select stock keyboard, then back to Swype.
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Right, but the OP stated Virtuous 3.0.1, so one can assume that stays constant in his 'test'.
http://adrynalyne.us/files/kernels/battery.zip
This kernel by adrynalyne has given me the best battery life and so far it has been completely stable for me. I'm pretty sure this is an experimental kernel so YMMV.
DroidHam said:
Im running Redemption Rom 2.0.4 with King #5, no setcpu at stock speed, NO OC!
Ran 3 Quadrant tests
1) 1433
2) 1463
3) 1475
and battery life is BY FAR the best out of ANY of these kernels!
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Unfortunately, I think quadrant isn't the best way to go about comparing the kernel's speeds. Kernels can manipulate the benchmarking tests without actually providing any more day-to-day speed:
"Cyanogen posted a troubling tweet about the flaws of Aurora Softworks’ Quadrant application. He specifically pointed to the I/O portion of the Quadrant benchmark test. The I/O test is an assessment of the efficiency of “filesystem access and database operations” on a device. In Cyanogen’s tweet, he says he was able to exploit the flaw to get obscenely high Quadrant benchmark scores by mounting “a tmpfs over quadrant’s data directory.” A tmpfs, or temporary file storage system, can artificially inflate a device’s I/O score and provide unreal benchmark improvements."
Given that the kernel was running at stock speed and came up with abnormally high levels, I would say there is some quirk in the kernel that produces the higher score. This isn't to say that the kernel isn't faster than the stock kernel or hyrda kernel, but maybe not to the extent that the quadrant scores indicate.
I too have had issues with kings #5 and Virtuous 2.7 and 3.0.1 as far as swype, and general smoothness is concerned.
I haven't noticed any significant battery savings over the adrenalyne virtuous kernel.
Ok after bricking one phone, i got a new one and loaded voodoo and dirkks SV1200 kernal. also oc'd to 1200. everything has been perfect and had scores in the 18 or 1900s. this morning i was using my phone and noticed it was very laggy. i checked quadrant scores again and it scored in the 14's. as i ran the benchmark, i noticed it hangs on the I/O 3of4 for longer then usual. i have restarted the phone, no luck. even reflashed the kernal, no luck. I cant think of any new programs or changes to the phone. any ideas?
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Ok after bricking one phone, i got a new one and loaded voodoo and dirkks SV1200 kernal. also oc'd to 1200. everything has been perfect and had scores in the 18 or 1900s. this morning i was using my phone and noticed it was very laggy. i checked quadrant scores again and it scored in the 14's. as i ran the benchmark, i noticed it hangs on the I/O 3of4 for longer then usual. i have restarted the phone, no luck. even reflashed the kernal, no luck. I cant think of any new programs or changes to the phone. any ideas?
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Well the 3rd I/O test does take the longest to complete. If you are having I/O issues this certainly would give you a fluctuating Quadrant score since so much is I/O affected especially on a voodoo'd SF. Have your other benchmarks taken a dip as well? Does the phone lag in regular use? If its just a Quadrant issue I would not overly panic. Cross check with other benches
My phone did that with voodoo too, I installed dirrks lv 1200, and when I upgraded it started acting up. I did remove the fix before I updated, did everything right, but it still lagged so I just glassed back to stock and did all the steps for remove lagfix. Still on stock kernel now but will install birdman optimized tonight.
Adrynalyne is the man BTW. Ok, as to the OP, have you reset the CPU in SetCPU after you restart your phone? If I don't, I get a score of 1400 ish too.
that would make sense as I believe it resets to 800 instead of 1200
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that would make sense as I believe it resets to 800 instead of 1200
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Yes, it resets to 800. 1.2 ghz is nice, I would like to see 1.6. G2 OC'ed at 1450 I believe... Ugh, one day, one day.
No luck with OC kernels
I have tried a few, everytime I get issues. Seems like setcpu just does not play well with this phone. I get 1800 on stock voodoo .2. Don't see a need for the extra conservative 200mhz that an OC can provide. Good luck with the kernels though.
Anyways, as stated, make sure set CPU is set to 1.2 GHz and not 800 MHz which is where it defaults. I use the widgit and crank up the speed any time I'm using the phone, else, I leave it at 800 when charging / idle etc.
Also, go into System Panel (best app killer around) and do an END ALL - it will kill everything... THAN run quadrant. If your scores skyrocket, don't be alarmed. Quadrant likes to have a very clean system to run on, if you have a lot of cached or running applications, Quadrant seems to suffer, I'm assuming due to the delay between it requesting more RAM from Android and the time it takes for it to release it. Seems to make sense as to why it would slow down to me at least based on what I know about how Android handles RAM.
Just make sure to reboot your phone after to restore your normal app library of running apps.
With a 1.2 GHz overclock on jt's voodoo kernel most of us are/were getting about 1925 . I've not ran dirrk's LV kernel, the undervolting is very minimal and I'd rather error on the side of stability, YMMV.
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Hi guys,
I have been running Fresh since I first rooted my phone months and months ago. I would say, that on average, I would get high 1400s to low 1500s in quadrant with either net's or king's kernels. Lately, however, as I was finding time to update the benchmarks on my sig, I found that my quadrants are landing at about 1100s. I don't remember them being that low with net's 4.3.1 kernel and below. Anyone else having issues with his latest (4.3.2) kernels? Everything other than the low quadrants are fine; including fps2d and linpack.
Also, I tried CFS and BFS with the same results.
Any ideas?!
Thanks in advance...
Quadrant tests don't mean ****. Does your phone run OK? If it does, don't even worry about it.
Did you upgrade you Quadrant? The new one reports lower scores.
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Did you upgrade you Quadrant? The new one reports lower scores.
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Indeed! That might be it. How come it reports lower now? Shouldn't they have adjusted the other phones listed as well then?!
I can't remember exactly, but I think they fixed something that was causing scores to be falsely reported as higher than they actually were. Not sure why they didn't adjust the scores in the graph, maybe they were unaffected by whatever was fixed?
Well, anyone else experiencing the same thing? Lower quadrants?!
unless you love stroking your ego, these scores mean nothing. as long as the phone is snappy and responsive for you, don't worry about "lower" scrores
Yep I get a lot lower scores on all roms and kernels I use.
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Just tested on fresh 3.5.0.1 with stock kernel and got 1014.
I couldn't imagine a phone running any smoother than this and I have no need to overclock or tweak or anything. Easily get 16 hours on a charge with moderate use.
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unless you love stroking your ego, these scores mean nothing. as long as the phone is snappy and responsive for you, don't worry about "lower" scrores
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I understand that it isn't accurate, but it is still the most used method of comparing between and within devices. As long as the 'innacuracy' is constant across the board, what does it matter? It also, somewhats, can give you a glimpse of whether a ROM or kernel is better or worst than others. Which is what I mostly use it for. A 300-400 drop is significant IMHO and I don't feel I'm crazy for inquiring about it.
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Just tested on fresh 3.5.0.1 with stock kernel and got 1014.
I couldn't imagine a phone running any smoother than this and I have no need to overclock or tweak or anything. Easily get 16 hours on a charge with moderate use.
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Good to know I'm not the only one. I didn't notice any change in performance on my end too. Just thought the sudden drop was weird.
Thanks!
from my experience, there's tons of things you can do to improve quad scored but do nothing in the realm of real world gains. look up data2ext for serious I/O boosts
edit: just for fun, i loaded up the same set up. overclocked and set to performance governor and i get about 1300's
I'm currently running turl1's v8 with the kernel that comes with it. I've read about people having this issue with faux'd kernel and that they fixed it by using the one is turl's build. I've attached a pic of the Time in State screen from SetCPU.
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I am using jokersax 0.3.1. Same issue.
do you guys have profiles set?
Only based on temperature. Do you?
I have profiles set when the screen turns off and such.
I still have idle problems, but its masked a little if you underclock to 912. and with hardware acceleration you can hardly notice it.
I I did have the idling problem with previous builds so I switched to turls1's. When the new 0.3.1 came out I switched back. I also changed from setcpu to antutu cpu master pro, and now it idles correctly.
I'm using turl1's V8 Kang with faux123 025 beta kernel (1.0Ghz), and here is my CPU freq for something like a week.
I use a profile for screen off- 216-608.
Now mine looks a lot better. But I didn't change anything..??
I'm not using a profile on mine either. I think I'm going to try faux's kernel and see if it improves any. I think I would get fairly great battery life if I could resolve this issue. I got down to only 84% after moderate screen time and video and music playback today with over 8 hours off of the charger. Most time was spent in 312Mhz with 608Mhz being the next highest and 216Mhz as the third.
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My cpu seems to be working great on turl's v8 with the default kernel. I was getting pretty poor battery life on joker's ROM, but on Turls v8 I'm getting the best I've ever had; stock or not.
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Running Jocker's latest with the latest Faux 1.3GHz kernel.
Idles mostly at 456MHz.
Something wrong there.
After flashing faux's 1Ghz kernel and setting a profile for screen off @216Mhz it has greatly improved. Although it seems any time the screen is on it never hits 216. My battery life didn't seem to get any better either which I find odd.
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another vote for turl fixing batt life.
No idea why some people are so good on faux's but a large proportion have these massive problems.
I switched to turls v8 with the kernel it comes with and now my battery life and cpu usages are great!
told ya, mine looks around the same
tried to feed it back in jokersax forum, not sure if he's picked up on it or not, theres plenty of people saying 'great batt life' but theres enough of us out there who aren't getting that (and whom get decent results with turl). Maybe there are subtle hw differences in certain batches or revisions of the SoC or something like that.
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I switched to turls v8 with the kernel it comes with and now my battery life and cpu usages are great!
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I've never seen my atrix idle like that.
are you sure? Mine idled similar to that in CM7, now CM9 turl build.
In jokersax build (stock kernel) 0.2 I never got below 456Mhz consequently heat and battery died in ~10% an hour increments even if I didn't touch it
Few days ago I wanted to test all the major kernels which are existing for the Note 3, and I did. I wanted the kernels which are overclocked, to 2.6 or 2.7 GHz, but not a single kernel I tested was stable. I mean whenever I ran Antutu to check whether it is stable or not it would just reboot or go stuck at around 30% or some level. Not a single time Antutu's benchmark process was finished successfully. And yes, I also did increase the voltage to make sure the overclocked frequency is getting enough power to be stable.
Now I don't know, but is that normal? I see a lot of people using those kernels without any complaint. But why was it like that for me?
Anyone using a kernel which is stable at 2.6 or 2.7 GHz?
Thanks in advance.
Could be the processor in your phone just doesn't like running at high frequencies. Just like with desktop PC processors, overclocking isn't a guarantee