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Hi Folks,
I've been enjoying my Nexus S but I've had a few problems so far and I wanted to see if they were singular problems or more widespread, so if you don't mind indulging me?
Signal - I've been having all manner of fluctuation with the signal. My Wife's Desire Z, which is also on Orange, is showing a far better reception in all areas, both indoors and out. I've even had a few total drop-outs, where I've had no signal at all, even though my old N900 and the Missus' phone are still showing at least 2 bars.
Wi-Fi - I've found the Wi-Fi signal to be awful. Again, other devices in the household are showing full bars yet the Nexus is showing 1. It's so bad that if I sit next to the router to get full signal, if I turn the device to face away I drop down to 1 or 2 bars. This isn't normal, surely?
Camera - Everything's blurry. Even the faintest hint of movement from a subject and the whole image is a mass of blur. Which is annoying to say the least.
App Issue - This is an extension of the signal problem really. When I go into a game, say, Angry Birds or Squibble, when I come out of the game I have no signal, and it doesn't come back for about 4-5 minutes.
What are your views?
Cheers and Merry Christmas,
I have none of the issues you seem to have. Might want to get it replaced
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My only issue is my cell reception, but that's because T-Mobile sucks in my area.
Everything else is fine.
My WiFi signals do the same thing, but reception remains great. Are you actually losing connection speed or no? Because I checked and I'm not.
I don't have any of those issues. Only issue I have is that I still can't send picture messages to my friends on AT&T
Thanks for your responses people.
I don't think I'm losing speed with the wifi issue, l but I haven't checked if I'm honest (I've been up to my eyeballs in turkey ).
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Wifi seems pretty strong here, no complaints at all. Have yet to put in a similar though so can't comment on cellular signal. Camera wise, I think its the norm... any movement with these sensors screws the picture totally. If you pics are blurred when the subject is stationary, worry.
I did a still pic side by side comparison and for some reason the nexus s was significantly more blurry than the nexus one, both shots same object sitting still. Prob just a software bug as the nexus s camera is very good in general.
For cellular signal, other people reported the same weak performance with the nexus s. My question is, do you actually compare the dBm or just the bars? Cause each company displays bars on a different range, so the only way really is to compare dBm vs dBm on each device.
There have been reports of weak signal and dropped data connection though.
past 2 days, I'm having an issue w/my nexus The screen won't tilt sideways when txt messaging, fb, watching youtube, etc.. The problem is temporary but a hindrance..also got a dead battery charger. I'm not the type to return stuff but might need to, I just love my nexus and the screen quality..hopefully the replacement won't have any screen issues like some ppl have complained.
I seem to have issues with my back button being no-where near as sensitive or responsive as the other buttons...anyone else?
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I wondered about this too but I now think its just the way I'm hitting it as I'm nit used to it being where it is. Could that be it?
My wifi connection is poor as well depending on the type of router it seems
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There are a slew of issues with Gingerbread, of which the most frustrating to me are: ringtone and other alarm tones will randomly change; new photographs will disappear in the gallery; sometimes typing is still laggy/unresponsive.
I reported the disappearing photos to Google here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13419 If anyone else is having this issue, please visit the link and star it to bring more attention to it.
In general, I'm disappointed these bugs exist.
With regards to Wifi, i found that the router was issuing 4 ip addresses to my phone via DHCP, and my phone was not getting good data streams, it kept cutting out. So i went to the router and set up static DHCP based on its mac address (you can set this up via LAN services on your router) This fixed my wifi problem
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I had the exact same issue with the back button. It was much less sensitive compared to the others and I had to click it quite hard to work. Its definitely a hardware mulfunction in a small percentage of phones. I ended up replacing the phone and now its fine.
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I seem to have issues with my back button being no-where near as sensitive or responsive as the other buttons...anyone else?
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Thanks for all the feedback people. It's been a great help. I've made a few changes so here's hoping I get some improvement.
If not it's going back to CPW!
Oh well, a day on and things still aren't improved.
Looks like its back to stock and back to the shop.
I'm wholly disappointed.
I've posted this in a couple forums and I'm trying to figure out if it's a widespread issue or just an issue with a few units. My PLAY is consistently getting 2-3 bars LESS than any other phones right next to it. And it seems that BGR also had similar issues with their review unit and said that the PLAY had some of the worst reception they've seen in a long time. And when I posted about this on the official VZW forums, other members also stated they are having similar problems. I'm also struggling to connect to 3G when my area is completely covered in 3G and was ALWAYS on 3G on my iPhone 4.
So I'm wondering, how is everyone else's reception on Verizon? Are you having similar problems, or are you getting just as many bars as other phones in the same area?
My phone also shows only 1-2 bars at most. However if you go to the status of the phone, the phone, the actual strength for me is between -79 - -80 db which as far as I can tell is perfectly good reception.
Haven't had any dropped calls and could make calls so far everywhere I went.
I have the rogers version (canada) and reception/3g is amazing, almost always full bars. Wireless on the other hand sucks.
My friends iphones/captivates get wireless where mine wont...
On AT&T with my R800a and I have better signal now than I ever did on my iPhone 3GS, oddly enough. I get signal in places the iPhone used to choke on consistently.
From what I remember being on Verizon years ago, bars didn't matter as much as CDMA voice is pure digital. You either have a solid connection or you don't at all. EVDO was similar as I remember it, sharing the same data stream and the reason why you can't talk and surf at the same time. Is the phone just showing weak bars or is it a problem of no signal at all?
At any rate, I bet SE will patch the radio firmware in the 2.3.3 update for the US.
It's mostly just showing low bars but the fact that it's having trouble staying on 3G is the biggest thing. It's on 1x 80% of the time but I should always be on the EVDO connection. I'm going to try a few more tests with my girlfriends iphone and my play and see just how much they are different. I really hope it's something that is an be fixed through software.
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My reception is terrible on my unbranded R800a, as I rarely have more than two bars. I know most phones have this issue, but when I hold the phone near the bottom for too long (which is often), it messes with the signal. 90% of the time when I'm using it, it reads zero bars.
I've yet to have a dropped call though, so I'm not too concerned about it...more of a mental thing than anything else.
Edit: I'm getting -101 dBm in most rooms in my house...looks pretty bad to me.
Like I mentioned before, have any of you gone into the about phone section and read the actual signal? I don't think you can trust the bars as actual signal strength. Check the actual numbers.
I had one issue with the phone at 1x, I restarted it and it was fine. I had the same issue with my Droid 2 sometimes, so I don't think it was all on the phone.
Went back to the Verizon store today to see if they would swap it out with a new one. But first we compared it to the floor model and it had the same problem. It had consistently lower signal than other phones in the store. He basically said I have the 14 days to return it and decide whether I want better signal or the gaming controls. He agreed with me that the phone wasn't holding a signal as good as the other phones. Even driving down the highway which ways gave me 5 bars is giving me 1. And my signal is 86+
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Mines is about the same as my htc droid eris on the verizon network.
In settings, about phone, it shows -90 dBm
Just read somewhere off the internet that the about phone settings dBm doesn't represent 3g. it represents 1x. Not sure if it is true.
Do you think I should just try and make them swap the phone out for me and see if the new one is any better before just returning it for good? And what are the chances they would gladly swap it out for a new phone without giving me a hard time and making me pay a restocking fee? The phone is awesome except for the reception issues I'm having. And I'd hate to pass on the phone if it's an isolated incident.
They will xchange it. Do what ive done call tech support and make them document u need aa replacement
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I tested talk and web browsing, works fine on verizon. Possibly just another iOs limitation. *_*
Back to topic, I've noticed the 2 - 3 bars usually in LA but the signal strength is good dBm. ?
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mine is usually round -85 DBm and like 1-2 bars, my other tunderbolt is full bars for my wife, have nto checked DBm on it tho
placing xperia play next to original droid.
Droid: 4 bars, -70dBm
Play: 1 bar, -74dBm
Both 3g.
Not sure what this means?
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placing xperia play next to original droid.
Droid: 4 bars, -70dBm
Play: 1 bar, -74dBm
Both 3g.
Not sure what this means?
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This means that the reception is a tiny bit worse in pure radio power. However, its scale is MASSIVELY shifted in regards to bar listings. I would be just bottoming out around -96dBm on my Droid. Dropping out at -80dB is a bad thing.
so it sounds like a software update could help? or am I miss-understanding....
I swapped out my phone and my new one is much much better
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I also swapped mine and see no improvement. What improvement were you seeing?
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Having the same signal problems with my r800x. I think it might just be an issue with Verizon.
I've definitely noticed a decrease in service compared to my previous phones, especially the T-Mobile Galaxy SIII. I'm not sure if its poor Radio firmware, or the materials, but it's a noticeable drop. Using a signal booster in my house, I used to get full bars in my bathroom just two rooms away on the GSIII. The Nexus 4 barely gets 1.
Anyone else having issues, and does anyone know if newer radio firmware will be released soon?
feels the same for me, if not better than my galaxy nexus.
Yeah, my connection cuts out quite frequently. It's pretty annoying
jacklebott said:
Yeah, my connection cuts out quite frequently. It's pretty annoying
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I can't really compare how my reception is with my nexus since I am on a new provider, but I did notice something odd with how many bars I have. I assume there is some kind of battery saving function because when I am not really using data I will see 3G, as soon as I use data though it will switch to H. But what I noticed is when I am on 3G I will have like 2 bars service, but when the phone switches over to H I have full or close to it..
Maybe thats normal just thought it was odd?
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I can't really compare how my reception is with my nexus since I am on a new provider, but I did notice something odd with how many bars I have. I assume there is some kind of battery saving function because when I am not really using data I will see 3G, as soon as I use data though it will switch to H. But what I noticed is when I am on 3G I will have like 2 bars service, but when the phone switches over to H I have full or close to it..
Maybe thats normal just thought it was odd?
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Normal. Saves data. That's how T-mobile does it. Not sure about the bar part, unless it's switching towers for some reason? Ha.
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
Yes it's noticeably worse than any other smartphone I've owned.
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In my case, it's the opposite. It's the best smartphone in terms of service quality. maybe because I'm in Belgium !
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Yes it's noticeably worse than any other smartphone I've owned.
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Weren't you the one that dropped yours in the toilet? If so I don't think you qualify anymore for bug reports
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I seem to be having the same reception problem the iPhone 4 had, namely that when I hold the phone, I lose reception.
Flat on desk: -82dBm
Fingers on either side of phone, still flat on desk: -99dBm.
Is anyone else getting the same phenomenon or is it just me? I wanna do a replacement if it's just me, but if it's something that everyone is experiencing, then I'll live with it.
I notice 2 things, 1) in general the reception is lower (4bars with my sensation/hd2 = 3bars on my n4) but I haven't done any real testing so it could be the bars are incorrect 2) big death grip problem, as soon as I grab the phone the reception drops and can cause a call to drop
For the most part I get good reception but yeah in certain parts of the house the phone is unusable.
I wonder if a simple bumper fix will do
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h.nocturna said:
I seem to be having the same reception problem the iPhone 4 had, namely that when I hold the phone, I lose reception.
Flat on desk: -82dBm
Fingers on either side of phone, still flat on desk: -99dBm.
Is anyone else getting the same phenomenon or is it just me? I wanna do a replacement if it's just me, but if it's something that everyone is experiencing, then I'll live with it.
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Same, going from -77 to -85dBm
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Keep in mind that bars mean nothing. Check the dBm / asu, the lower the better. Over ~110 things get dicey/unusable.
When I had my N4 on AT&T, it got better reception than my Capitvate and Atrix 2. I'm on T-Mobile now, and I'm still experimenting.
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I wonder if a simple bumper fix will do
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I have a tpu case on mine and it hasn't made a difference, actually the thing that works for me is switching to 2G + wifi when I'm home and of course 3G when out and about, I just wish nfc task launcher or tasker could access that "toggle" on the stock rom.
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Different phone different reception patterns. No two phones will be exactly the same in terms of their signal strength, you might find an improvement compared to a previous phone, you might find it is worse, most will see no difference and it's very dependant on environment. I've seen no difference personally. Given some time and feedback from various carriers can improve things with radio updates, such as the phone being more or less aggressive in switching between cells, or protocol fixes that help prevent drop outs during higher error rates when the signal is lower and cleaner/quicker hand-off to adjacent cells.
It should be noted the main antenna is at the bottom of the phone like most mobiles these days, so holding it at the bottom cupped in the palm of your hand will see the signal reduce and battery consumption increase as it tries to transmit through flesh. There are diversity antennas towards the top of the phone, but these are for reception only and do not transmit.
A bumper is unlikely to help unless it was extremely large to make the distance between a hand and the antenna several inches! The iPhone was a different issue, it was because the antennas were not insulated and were being de-tuned and shorted by being touched when the phone was held.
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Phil
Hi,
I'm loving my new nexus 4. But I have been getting very low signal bars for my mobile carrier. They are generally hovering around 1 or 2, especially when I'm indoors. I do not face any issue while using data. But then that is used when I'm outside. Overall, both network and wi-fi connectivity are lower than my earlier phone - the HTC Desire.
Has anyone of you faced a similar issue?
Thanks in advance.
I'm experiencing inconsistent signals. Sometimes I have full bars, sometimes none. Of course, this is at my house which is about a mile from the tower.
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I'm experiencing inconsistent signals. Sometimes I have full bars, sometimes none. Of course, this is at my house which is about a mile from the tower.
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Same situation here. I think this affects everyone unless you are in a super steering signal area then it will penetrate your java easier.
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frigidazzi said:
Same situation here. I think this affects everyone unless you are in a super steering signal area then it will penetrate your java easier.
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Whatever the case is, i'm not liking it.
I didn't have these issues with either my iPhone nor my S2.
It'd be a shame to get rid of it after only 4 days.
Ok... feeling somewhat better to know this is not an issue faced by me alone.
I've noticed that signal bars go down to 1 or 2 when laying face up on my desk. As soon as I pick it up, it goes up to 4 bars.
The issue is I never faced this problem with my old HTC Desire!!
I hope its a radio problem which can be fixed by an update, and not a hardware issue.
Anyone else facing this problem?
Are you basing your signal quality by the representation of the bars as your signal compared to your previous phone?
Settings>about phone>status would probably a better place to get a reading to compare.
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Is anyone else having signal issues? In my house I only have 2-3 bars while on my iPhone there was always 4-5
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Is anyone else having signal issues? In my house I only have 2-3 bars while on my iPhone there was always 4-5
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Not me. So far so good. Will keep you posted.
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Nope me either.. maybe slightly better than my s4.
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I am getting much better reception with this phone. My last phone was a Galaxy Note 2.
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I am getting much better reception with this phone. My last phone was a Galaxy Note 2.
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Pretty much the same here. My note 2 had pretty decent signal, but the 3 seems a tad better.
No issues here either, Tucson, AZ.
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Samsung hasn't been known for exceptional signal strength. Can't speak for Apple, but Motorola pretty much steals the show in that category. I saw the difference for myself when I had my old Galaxy s3 next to my work phone, which was a Droid Razr Maxx.
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Samsung hasn't been known for exceptional signal strength. Can't speak for Apple, but Motorola pretty much steals the show in that category. I saw the difference for myself when I had my old Galaxy s3 next to my work phone, which was a Droid Razr Maxx.
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Just basing this off of my own experience, the recent gen of Samsung phones seem to have rather decent reception when in an obvious strong signal area. Where Moto still seems to excel, is in those fringe areas. When you fluctuate between 0-1 bars...Moto stays connected much stronger/more reliably. Recently had the new Droid MAXX and compared to my Note 2, streaming music never missed a beat. Samsung struggled a bit. I'm sure in the 1st update, there will be a radio patch to make the 3 even better.
Number of bars mean nothing especially across two different make and model of phones. What's important is the data throughput and latency and voice quality.
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Number of bars mean nothing especially across two different make and model of phones. What's important is the data throughput and latency and voice quality.
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I understand this. Bars are used to graphically represent. dBm is a more accurate way to gauge it. Just saying Moto stayed more reliable at say...-107dBm than Samsung did.
I'm here in San Diego and signal is great. My house is a butthole for letting signal to the phone, but the Note 3 manages to get great signal.
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My iPhone has -90 db while my note 3 has -106 db
Always had 2 or 3 bars of 3g and sometimes 4g with my S3 and now always 4g with 3 or 4 bars. Wifi seems to be better too.
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Absolutely correct. If I remember correctly, the Nexus was getting a terrible signal and there was an update in which there were more bars but the dBa measurements were the same. However, I used real world testing when comparing the Moto Droid Maxx to my GS3. I couldn't place a call in a fringe area with my GS3 while the Motorola held up well. I found that the GS3 was able to hold a better wifi signal on the fringe of the signal radius.
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Always had 2 or 3 bars of 3g and sometimes 4g with my S3 and now always 4g with 3 or 4 bars. Wifi seems to be better too.
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I seem to be getting a better signal with the Noe 3 than I did with the GS3. An area along my commute that had no signal with my s3, has some signal on the Note 3.
IS it possible that I have a bad note 3? I cant Connect To local wifi networks. signal is horrible and wont connect to Bluetooth on Many devices I can connect to some networks though
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