hello guys well i have a nexus 7 that i set up in my car everything working perfect but i cant get the battery to "ac charge" im using this cable
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Usb-type-A-...G-Micro-USB-female-power-supply-/310680595889
the issue is not in the charger because the charger im using when connect to the tablet directly does achieve ac charging but when i plug in the above splitter it looses it, if the cable is meant to separate data from power than why is this happening? how can i get "ac power" or fast charging, I currently have everything connect to a toggle switch that i leave on over night, and i really is not a big deal but i noticed the other day with the navigation on watching videos that the battery is still draining.. using timur kernel
thanks in advance
its obviously the splitter, from the looks of the cable on the micro usb socket its to thin to take the power?
You need to state more info. What kernel? Rom? Only a specialized kernel will allow otg host mode charging.
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If you are completely stock, the tablet will not charge while it is in Host Mode with the OTG cable attached. It can be done with a special kernel, though.
Yup, thats what I said.
I can almost guarantee it is your otg cable,get a samsung compatible otg with power cable.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-Host-OTG-Cable-W-Micro-USB-power-for-Samsung-N5100-i9300-i9500-N7100-/130917631296?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item1e7b4c8540
I have a car install running Timurs usbrom (which I recommend over just his kernel) and its the one Im using without issue.
It is because the otg cable does not have the data cables in the powered end that is split off. They need to be shorted to get full AC charging but it is impossible with an Otg cable as it would not work for any data.
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Kodiack99 said:
I can almost guarantee it is your otg cable,get a samsung compatible otg with power cable.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-Host-OTG-Cable-W-Micro-USB-power-for-Samsung-N5100-i9300-i9500-N7100-/130917631296?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item1e7b4c8540
I have a car install running Timurs usbrom (which I recommend over just his kernel) and its the one Im using without issue.
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I also have the timurs kernel but i dont see the difference between your cable and mine......
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It is because the otg cable does not have the data cables in the powered end that is split off. They need to be shorted to get full AC charging but it is impossible with an Otg cable as it would not work for any data.
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So what you are saying if im understanding correctly is to achieve true ac charging you have to utilize all 4 cables in the usb passage?
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So what you are saying if im understanding correctly is to achieve true ac charging you have to utilize all 4 cables in the usb passage?
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You need to short both the data pins together for AC charging. But if you do that, OTG is gone.
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I also have the timurs kernel but i dont see the difference between your cable and mine......
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You are just using the kernel,usbrom is his full cm10.1 based custom rom. The proper otg cables need to have pins 4 and 5 (ground) together on the tablet micro usb end to activate the ofg and power,that why you need the special cable.Your cable only power the device on the usb end not the tablet,it says no device charging in the description.
Also with Timurs kernel or rom the data wire cross isnt needed,or the otg devices wouldnt work.
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Can I plug in the Pogo charger and the Micro USB at the same time, and have a faster charge? I've tried it but I don't really know what to compare it to since I'm new to the Nexus and don't know really how long a full charge takes lol
It would be super sick if somehow this could slice the charge time in half.
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swagginandbaggin said:
Can I plug in the Pogo charger and the Micro USB at the same time, and have a faster charge? I've tried it but I don't really know what to compare it to since I'm new to the Nexus and don't know really how long a full charge takes lol
It would be super sick if somehow this could slice the charge time in half.
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No. The charging icon will display but the N10 is not charging. That feature would need to be included in a ROM but neither stock nor any custom ROM has the capability. This limitation extends to using an OTG cable and pogo plug.
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No. The charging icon will display but the N10 is not charging. That feature would need to be included in a ROM but neither stock nor any custom ROM has the capability. This limitation extends to using an OTG cable and pogo plug.
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Thanks man. But I have a portable micro USB charger, if I connected that via an OTG cable, and pogo charged it as well, would that work?
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swagginandbaggin said:
Thanks man. But I have a portable micro USB charger, if I connected that via an OTG cable, and pogo charged it as well, would that work?
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No, there simply is no ROM that supports concurrent charging. In fact both stock and custom ROM's block pogo changing when the Micro USB port is used.
What does the extra plug do?
Just faster transfer speed or faster charge using USB 3.0?
I tested it with a standard USB 2.0 microUSB cable and it still works and charge the Notes 3
It dedicated in/out. Much faster charging and data bandwith
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From what I've heard and read USB 3.0 doesn't charge faster. But it transfers days about twice as fast as USB 2. But don't quote me on that. ..
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True, doesn't charge faster from the wall, but will when plugged into a USB 3.0 port on a computer when compared to USB 2.0 port.
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True, doesn't charge faster from the wall, but will when plugged into a USB 3.0 port on a computer when compared to USB 2.0 port.
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I tested this, and it seems to charge at the same rate in a USB 3.0 port, plus it stopped charging after a few minutes. The port is a PCI Express card from Rocketfish.
Now I'm starting to doubt the accuracy of the app or my understanding of what it does.
It's Galaxy Charging Current Lite. If I launch it while my battery is charged to about 80% it says 460. If I come back & refresh the view when it is charged to 97-98% it says 1800. Why would the rate start slow then speed up as the battery fills, shouldn't it be the other way around?
A few weeks ago I used another app to check charging rates of my Nexus 4 with different cables & chargers, and this app seems to be very different. I guess I need to try to figure out which battery checking app it was.
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AllGamer said:
What does the extra plug do?
Just faster transfer speed or faster charge using USB 3.0?
I tested it with a standard USB 2.0 microUSB cable and it still works and charge the Notes 3
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The charge/data cable, is just a standard USB 3.0 cable, just like any USB 3.0 external harddrive cable. I am actually using a black WD USB 3.0 Cable instead of the ugly white cable supplied.
All the cable does, if you have USB 3.0 on your PC/Laptop is allow for much fast data transfer (great when transferring music or video to and from your phone via usb. Note that you need to select USB 3.0 mode on the phone.
Does anyone know if this is possible on our phones?
I know otg works but never had a cable where you could charge too
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It should work since it's not different from charging on PC and copy files at the same time. Just need a cable with a split end; one socket for the charger and one for the OTG device.
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I just tried it and it doesn't work. My phone won't charge at all using the split OTG cable, with OR without a usb device plugged in.
Tried every combination of plugging and unplugging things that I could think of, and no-go.
I guess it's possible that my split cable could be the problem, but this worked just fine on my GNex, so I highly doubt it.
Dang, it will be awhile before I get the OTG cable, also waiting for the N3 DE. Can anyone second this?
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snwbrdr852 said:
I just tried it and it doesn't work. My phone won't charge at all using the split OTG cable, with OR without a usb device plugged in.
Tried every combination of plugging and unplugging things that I could think of, and no-go.
I guess it's possible that my split cable could be the problem, but this worked just fine on my GNex, so I highly doubt it.
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I agree. Tested with this cable, and it's a no go. Works without a single issue on my Gnex as well.
I'm leaning towards kernel compatibility.
Edit: Something that it does differently on the Note 3 is that it immediately gives a notification stating that a usb device is connected as soon as I plug it in, even without a usb drive being attached. While still connected, attaching a usb drive works perfectly.
Thanks, that's a show stopper to watch movies from a USB HD. Maybe a Samsung accessory cable will work; sucks for those already having one though.
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have u tried plugging one of those usb hubs with multiple ports into ur otg cable? It works for me
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have u tried plugging one of those usb hubs with multiple ports into ur otg cable? It works for me
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Does it work with multiple attached devices?
I imagine that powers the attached devices but does not charge the phone battery?
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i have tried and yes it will charge the phone. the one I have I got from walmart for somewhere around 10 bucks. it wasnt much
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My Galaxy S4 charges.... terribly directly connected through USB into my PC in both USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 inputs.
Am I doing something wrong, is there a way to boost the charge you get from a USB PC input?
Thanks!
Most USB ports on a computer are only 0.5 to 0.75 amps. To charge your GS4 you really need about 1.0 amps, the charger that came with your GS4 is 2.0 amps. So no you can't get a better charge from your computer.
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Check the logo on the USB ports. Look for one with a lightning bolt. My laptop has specified ports that have higher output for charging.
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Some laptops from MSI are supported by their utility called Super Charger. This boosts the power output but also removes connectivity (I believe). So you won't be able to connect your phone and transfer data.
There maybe be a utility that supports your laptop for boosting charging. Best thing to do is Google around for some programs.
If your laptop is old you're probably out of luck.
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There is a cord that is used for external hard drives on laptops it uses two usb ports but plugs into one drive doubling the power. Just a thought. Only thing is they are usually mini usb not micro but an adapter should do it
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Thanks all! I also have another problem!
I read your answers, so I decided to get a 3 amp car charger for my S4! If the original S4 wall charger is 2 Amps, then a 3 amp car charger sounds good, right?
Unfortunately, my phone gains no charge from it in both of my cards, my phones battery just dies slower when plugged into the car.
Any tips? Thanks!
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Most car chargers lie about their ratings so that could be one problem, the other, is most phones see car chargers as a usb port charger instead of an ac charger so the rate of charge is automatically reduced to usb charging. Somewhere on here was a thread on how to modify a car charger so the phone would see it as an ac wall charger and allow it full output. I believe you have to open up the charger and jump a wire over. Search on here or google it and you should find it.
Could be a lot of things. But remember you phone will only allow its self to charge at a certain rate. Thus, purchasing high amperage chargers will provide no benfit.
High amperage chargers are more for tablets that require more power for their larger batteries.
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Mine does that. I have to reboot it while it's plugged up to my car charger. Thought my charger was bad after taking the MJA update. Still looking for a fix....
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My nexus 7 have a problem, that can turn o, every time rebooting, won't accept any charge, how can be?
...i have almost the same issue with my 2012 N7, stock&root....it just will not charge (tried different chargers!) It shows "charging" but it uncharges...now it is dead!!! ....a known issue??
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Sounds to me like you either have a broken lead on one of the charging pins inside the MicroUSB charging port or either your battery has malfunctioned.
I also have the Nexus 7 2012(grouper) and have a "tighter" connection using my Samsung ATIV SE MicroUSB cable, but the cable for my Galaxy S4 tends to fall out easily.
Remember that most aftermarket MicroUSB cables do not have all the pins inside the connector and most MicroUSB Chargers only have the 5V charging pins..
Try plugging your tablet into a USB port on a computer and see what happens..
Hope everything works out!
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Solved!!!! Yes, it was the microusb port....got a new one and now it works perfect again!!!!
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roadrunner1 said:
Solved!!!! Yes, it was the microusb port....got a new one and now it works perfect again!!!!
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I have changed my usb-port as well, and the battery icon when the tablet is shut off shows that it is charging, however the OS when turned on doesnt seem to recognize that the charging cable is present. Also PC connection doesnt seem to work... Any ideas?