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need someone that can test this (tested and i didnt have any problems) with a otk cable, a disk or a usb keyboard.

USB Mass Storage mode has nothing whatsoever to do with OTG. It is an alternative to Media Transfer Protocol, describing how your mobile device's storage is presented to other devices.

JulianPaoloThiry said:
USB Mass Storage mode has nothing whatsoever to do with OTG. It is an alternative to Media Transfer Protocol, describing how your mobile device's storage is presented to other devices.
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i know, corrected

I don't have the "persist.sys.usb.config=mtp,adb" setting in build.prop, but I've added yours and nothing changes when I connect an USB stick(8G) on my powered OTG cable. Only the led lights two seconds and turns off, not like the rapid pulses reading when I connect it to a PC.
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The other setting, "persist.lab126.sys.usb.mtp=1" is present, and I tested a 0 on it(and reset) with no evident effects...
Restored to original....
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Oh thanks. Every day you learn something.

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USB Storage mode?

Hi all.
Is there a way to access the FAT32 partition on the SD through the USB cable (the same way I used to do with the Magic)?
Disabling the USB debug mode won't help!
Thanks.
Yes, just plug it in and there should be a notification asking if you want to 'mount' the storage. When you mount the storage it will become visible to your PC just as if it was a usb memory stick.
so for the idiot's guide (not calling you and idiot, but you clearly have not read the manual).
When you plug the usb cable in, at the top of the phone screen there should be a usb sign.
drag the notification bar down.
there should be a line for usb stating click to mount.
Click.
A popup will ask you do you want to mount, click 'mount'
DONE!
Please remember to unmount when disconnecting. do this either by ejecting the drive in windows OR the same method as mounting but the popup will ask you to unmount.
but again again again this is in the manual/.
And before I get any H8's saying you need to mount to access the manual, its also on the HTC site. so Raspberry to you.
It simply doesn't work. I did read TFR!
OK.
Are you trying this at work? It's possible through a windows reg change to disable the usb ports, my place does this but can be fixed with a simple reg script.
Have you another usb drive to try in the port you are using?
Just checking that your connecting it to the back of the computer as they are the main ports (ones directly connected to your mobo) as sometimes the front ones wont work if not connected/enabled.
If you do have another device/drive and this works in the port then bad times.
Uqbar said:
It simply doesn't work. I did read TFR!
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It would be more useful if you could tell us what it does do, rather than that it simply doesn't work.
1. When you plug the USB cable in, do you get "USB Connected" notification? If so, when you bring this up, do you get the option to mount the SD card?
2. Have you tried a different USB cable and/or connecting the phone to a different PC?
3. Have you tried with a different SD card in the phone?
4. Have you repartitioned your SD card in any way? (i.e. added swap, ext3 whatever?)
Regards,
Dave
1. No, I don't get any notification at all.
2. Different cables, same result. USB memory stick and USB hard drive work on the very same port.
3. Yes, same result.
4. Yes, I did the "usual" 3 partitions.
5. I'm running MoDaCo 2.1
FIXED while troubleshooting!
6. I switched to my Nokia DKE-2 cable and it magically worked.
7. The old cables used to work with ADB but not in storage mode.
8. All three cable can charge the phone.
9. I presume a problem with the cable, but have no idea about the nature.
Anyway, the thing was really not working at all. Please give first a look to my first post. I already tried a number of things before posting.
Uqbar said:
FIXED while troubleshooting!
6. I switched to my Nokia DKE-2 cable and it magically worked.
7. The old cables used to work with ADB but not in storage mode.
8. All three cable can charge the phone.
9. I presume a problem with the cable, but have no idea about the nature.
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Just as a matter of interest, did you try with the cable that came with the phone? At the very least that should be working too.
Thus far, I've had no problems with 3 or 4 different USB cables, but I have seen issues like this in the past where cables didn't have all pins connected.
Regards,
Dave
I've lost my original cable some thousands kilometers away from home.
This is why I got using my digital camera and USB hard drive min-USB cables.
I got no problem so far apart of not being able to mount the phone's SD.
I presume a weird wiring problem. Maybe this thing can be put in a FAQ.

[REQ] Mass storage toggle app

I have a request, I know the TP2 have native Mass storage driver (ie the MicroSD can act as a flash drive), normally this depends on the Phone detecting a PC before activiating that feature.
However, I have a MP3 player that accept USB flash drive, but plugging my phone into the player won't trigger the mass storage activiation.
Does anyone know how to toggle it manually somehow somewhere? or can write a small/quick app to do that?
Thanks in advance
The option is under All settings, connections tab, USB to PC, then Disk Drive.
Give that a go...
I use mine in my car which has a usb port that reads flash drives and just plays songs via folder selection, however it doesnt charge from it.
There is an app I use called wm5torage that should work for what you want. It toggles the usb connetion as a mass storage device. Give it a try and see if it works for you.
headshok said:
The option is under All settings, connections tab, USB to PC, then Disk Drive.
Give that a go...
I use mine in my car which has a usb port that reads flash drives and just plays songs via folder selection, however it doesnt charge from it.
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Doesn't work, as I mention that depends on the Phone detecting the connection as a PC before it would activate the Mass storage feature (you can tell because the storage card disappear from file explorer) and my phone just won't detect my MP3 player as a PC

XWKI4 (and XXKI3) have killed USB OTG

I upgraded (OTA) to XWKI4 and a couple of days later found that USB Host mode has dissapeared. Anyone know why?
I've done some googling but haven't found a lot about it.
I tried XXKI3 via ODIN and it's the same. The blue overscroll doesn't make up for the omission of major functionality.
Why would samsung remove this? Is it maybe just a bug in the kernel or have they deliberately taken it out for some reason?
I presume I can downgrade in ODIN. Bit of a hassle though. I might have to go down the custom firmware route sooner rather than later.
that appen to me too .no USB OTG ,I have XWKI4 and SiyahKernel 2.1
sorry for my English
move down the notification area and there click to connect to your pc. I guess this was made to optimized battery life, because before this is running on background which consumes battery and only needed if connected to computer via usb.
Hope this help you bro.
dannielangel said:
move down the notification area and there click to connect to your pc. I guess this was made to optimized battery life, because before this is running on background which consumes battery and only needed if connected to computer via usb.
Hope this help you bro.
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Connect to PC != USB On-The-Go / USB Host mode.
I'm running XWKJ3 with Speedmod kernel and USB OTG works fine. For me, the most reliable way of getting it to recognise the device is to plug in the OTG cable WITHOUT the USB memory device connected, then plug the USB memory into the cable. Other sequences sometimes don't work.
So I would give that a try if you're not already doing it that way. If it still doesn't work, you could try flashing Speedmod temporarily, and if still no joy, consider upgrading to KJ3.
What are you after in particular?
If it's USB storage, that still works for me on KJ3, however, the ability to connect things like My DSLR to use D5KController (host mode) have gone, presumably because this feature wasn't introduced until API 11, and Samsung had it in there originally, maybe due to porting parts over for the USB storage, then realised it shouldn't be available and removed it.
kslw said:
For me, the most reliable way of getting it to recognise the device is to plug in the OTG cable WITHOUT the USB memory device connected, then plug the USB memory into the cable.
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Thanks, I've tried that and it works (with mass storage).
Oddly, i'm fairly sure (although not 100%) that plugging in the cable (with no device attached) used to cause a notification (something about USB Host mode activated). It does not do that now.
At least I can access media on a memory stick again, that's good.
Thanks for that.

[Q] Any way to get USB Mass Storage instead of MTP?

Not entirely sure what kind of process might be needed, but is it at all possible to use the older method of transferring files between a computer to an Android device (USB Mass Storage) instead of MTP?
MTP (in my experience) is... not ideal in most cases. File transfers are seemingly slower, can only do one thing at a time (I think if your transferring a file, you can't even browse other folders on the MTP device), and sometimes file transfers just get stuck for no reason. Was trying to copy over a few PDF's to my N10 and it seems to just hang randomly, had to reboot the device 4 times already (twice to just create and rename a folder).
what about the option in settings -> storage -> and tap the menu button on the top right and select USB Computer connection?
espionage724 said:
Not entirely sure what kind of process might be needed, but is it at all possible to use the older method of transferring files between a computer to an Android device (USB Mass Storage) instead of MTP?
MTP (in my experience) is... not ideal in most cases. File transfers are seemingly slower, can only do one thing at a time (I think if your transferring a file, you can't even browse other folders on the MTP device), and sometimes file transfers just get stuck for no reason. Was trying to copy over a few PDF's to my N10 and it seems to just hang randomly, had to reboot the device 4 times already (twice to just create and rename a folder).
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I had the same problem at first, but I realized my USB ports on the front end of my PC arent USB 2.0, so I plugged it into the back, and works like a charm. Just a thought.
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what about the option in settings -> storage -> and tap the menu button on the top right and select USB Computer connection?
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I already did that and tried both options (MTP & PTP), but the N10 does not show up on my computer at all in either case, with or without USB debugging. I have had no such problems with my other android devices (all still running gingerbread, in case that matters).
My N10 is rooted and my computer runs xubuntu 12.04; I don't have a window box to test... Any suggestions? Thanks!
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I already did that and tried both options (MTP & PTP), but the N10 does not show up on my computer at all in either case, with or without USB debugging. I have had no such problems with my other android devices (all still running gingerbread, in case that matters).
My N10 is rooted and my computer runs xubuntu 12.04; I don't have a window box to test... Any suggestions? Thanks!
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Unfortunately the answer is no.
There was a long discussion on the Galaxy Nexus forums about it a while back.
I also wish for a usb mass storage option for compatibility with radios for playing music. They don't read mtp/ptp for any generic one I've come across.
ceribaen said:
Unfortunately the answer is no.
There was a long discussion on the Galaxy Nexus forums about it a while back.
I also wish for a usb mass storage option for compatibility with radios for playing music. They don't read mtp/ptp for any generic one I've come across.
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Hmm, but what's the main thing stopping this from being possible? I thought I heard of a few JB devices that were able to get USB Mass Storage (LG Optimus G I think has a method, or whatever the phone is that has similar parts to a Nexus 4), and a Galaxy Tab I used to have had Mass Storage in ICS.
Mass storage is possible when the sdcard volume is actually a separate disk. On the Nexus 10 this is an "emulated" sdcard and cannot use USB mass storage safely because that protocol gives exclusive control to PC.
The easiest solution is to use one of the many wireless transfer apps like AirDroid.
Another option for Linux users if you really want a wired transfer is to use adbfs. This is a FUSE wrapper around the usb android debug protocol.
https://github.com/spion/adbfs-rootless
adbfs would give you seamless mounting just like USB Mass Storage.
Another solution, though not a seamless mount, is QtADB: http://qtadb.wordpress.com/
This is another wrapper around the usb android debug protocol.
Oh my god, thank you for the AirDroid recommendation. Holy crap is this program useful with my new nexus 4.
dalingrin said:
Mass storage is possible when the sdcard volume is actually a separate disk. On the Nexus 10 this is an "emulated" sdcard and cannot use USB mass storage safely because that protocol gives exclusive control to PC.
The easiest solution is to use one of the many wireless transfer apps like AirDroid.
Another option for Linux users if you really want a wired transfer is to use adbfs. This is a FUSE wrapper around the usb android debug protocol.
https://github.com/spion/adbfs-rootless
adbfs would give you seamless mounting just like USB Mass Storage.
Another solution, though not a seamless mount, is QtADB: http://qtadb.wordpress.com/
This is another wrapper around the usb android debug protocol.
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Thank you so much! AirDroid is genius!
MTP storage to USB storage: accidental solution!
espionage724 said:
Not entirely sure what kind of process might be needed, but is it at all possible to use the older method of transferring files between a computer to an Android device (USB Mass Storage) instead of MTP?
MTP (in my experience) is... not ideal in most cases. File transfers are seemingly slower, can only do one thing at a time (I think if your transferring a file, you can't even browse other folders on the MTP device), and sometimes file transfers just get stuck for no reason. Was trying to copy over a few PDF's to my N10 and it seems to just hang randomly, had to reboot the device 4 times already (twice to just create and rename a folder).
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dear espionage,
i just wanted to share this with you in case it would be helpful. in fact, you might even have more technical know-how to find out how i accidentally managed this useful fix. first, the reason i was looking for this MTP to USB storage was my habit of synchronizing my thumb-drive to my desktop using any free synching software. this of course, can be only be done when the storage device is recognized as a DRIVE. unfortunately, i believe with the updating of the OS to 4.1 onwards, the USB storage option has been removed, and now only access to MTP is possible. the bad side to this is that one's device is recognized as a portable media device and this means i can no longer synch like i did before the contents of the SD card to my desktop.
second, i found the solution accidentally by installing MultiMount-SD v.2.5 into my Sony Xperia V (LT25i). accidentally i say, because when i clicked on it for the first time, it wouldn't work. it showed a help tip saying that i should trying enabling what it called an MTP fix provided by the program. i did this, restarted the program and guess what happened. there occurred a looping sequence (i guess unending) device recognition-mount and unmount (the PC sounded this off many times), since there was no end to it, i decided to UNINSTALL the program even while the recognition loop was going on. in the meantime one could see a drive appearing in the EXPLORER with a (?), then it would appear with an assigned drive letter, then finally disappear, and so on.
i successfully uninstalled the MultiMount apk, and surprisingly even with the message that the device wasn't properly recognized or installed, i could now connect my Xperia and it mounts as a USB storage device and no longer MTP. to test this 'accident', i tried connecting it to my desktop, running Windows 7, and it worked without any hitches! I don't really mind losing the MTP option, sides it's very limited in its connectivity with the PC. Another bonus, is despite this, i can still communicate with my device through the MyPhoneExplorer program that allows one to send text messages and other stuff. This was one wonderful accident.
oh, one last thing, even with rebooting my phone, the setup seems to have become a 'permanent fix'. now, when the device is connected one sees in the activated portions in the top menu saying: USB Storage - SD card connected to PC. This was never there before... And i wonder what MultiMountSD must have left permanently to allow my Xperia V to now connect as USB storage. Yahoo!!!
i hope though, you could see what the technical side of this accident is, so that somehow something more stable could be done or programmed without having to go through the 'accidental' procedure i have detailed above.
ciao,
bodega1968
case-sensitive said:
I already did that and tried both options (MTP & PTP), but the N10 does not show up on my computer at all in either case, with or without USB debugging. I have had no such problems with my other android devices (all still running gingerbread, in case that matters).
My N10 is rooted and my computer runs xubuntu 12.04; I don't have a window box to test... Any suggestions? Thanks!
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I had this issue with Ubuntu 12.04 too, after I updated to 13.04 it started to work like a charm . You can also try changing the rules in your PC, you can find how to do it in the Google website .
"This Story Ends Where It Began" - Octavarium (Dream Theater)
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OTG
You can use OTG and transfer files
MTP and USB Storage
SmokinCharger said:
You can use OTG and transfer files
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Thanks SmokinCharger! I guess it's quite clear that attempts to allow certain devices to be read in USB Storage mode is a hardware configuration. If your device isn't designed for it, then it won't be able to do this. It's like wanting your volkswagen to have a 6th gear... thus, what was posted previously is true:
Originally Posted by dalingrin:
[Mass storage is possible when the sdcard volume is actually a separate disk. On the Nexus 10 this is an "emulated" sdcard and cannot use USB mass storage safely because that protocol gives exclusive control to PC.]
*I also would like to apologize what i've posted earlier regarding my accidental discovery with Multi-Mount SD. What the app actually did was to access a feature in my device (rooted Xperia V LT125i) which i wasn't aware of. All the time, my device was actually configured to have both MTP and USB Storage.:silly:
So for such devices that are hardware configured only to be MTP or PTP, the only 'solution' or 'alternative' would be to "ROOT" them and set them up with OTG (On the Go) USB access. This may have some hitches, but i've been using this quite a lot. Sometimes though, a RESET is required so that explorer applications would function normally.
Thanks again. I guess this will be all for now in our attempts to reconfigure something that is hardware defined in certain devices.
bodega1968 said:
Thanks SmokinCharger! I guess it's quite clear that attempts to allow certain devices to be read in USB Storage mode is a hardware configuration. If your device isn't designed for it, then it won't be able to do this. It's like wanting your volkswagen to have a 6th gear... thus, what was posted previously is true:
Originally Posted by dalingrin:
[Mass storage is possible when the sdcard volume is actually a separate disk. On the Nexus 10 this is an "emulated" sdcard and cannot use USB mass storage safely because that protocol gives exclusive control to PC.]
*I also would like to apologize what i've posted earlier regarding my accidental discovery with Multi-Mount SD. What the app actually did was to access a feature in my device (rooted Xperia V LT125i) which i wasn't aware of. All the time, my device was actually configured to have both MTP and USB Storage.:silly:
So for such devices that are hardware configured only to be MTP or PTP, the only 'solution' or 'alternative' would be to "ROOT" them and set them up with OTG (On the Go) USB access. This may have some hitches, but i've been using this quite a lot. Sometimes though, a RESET is required so that explorer applications would function normally.
Thanks again. I guess this will be all for now in our attempts to reconfigure something that is hardware defined in certain devices.
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You're welcome. Chainfire is a great and well known developer that has development many great apps including Stickmount. Look it up in Play especially the Pro version, which is "The price is aimed at being approximately one beer at the bar ". It works with mounting the UBS OTG. The Pro will automatically mount and unmount.

USB 3.0 Transfers fail

Hi,
I've been struggling with this problem ever since I've had the Note 3 ( since December). I've been unable to find a solution so am turning to this forum in the hope that someone can shed some light on this.
When I connect via my USB 3.0 port and select MTP (usb 3.0), then try to transfer a file from the note 3 to my pc, the progress bar comes up but sits there at 0% for a while then a message pops up "a device attached to the system is not functioning".
At this point going to other folders reveals no files although the current folder still shows them. This suggest that there is a disconnection of some kind.
Switching back to plain MTP this transfer will work but obviously at usb 2.0 speeds.
I am running Windows 7 and the usb port I have is via a card attached which is an Asus u3S6 (usb 3 / sata 6) card. The chipset on the card is a NEC chip and my other use for it is a bunch of external SATA drives in a USB 3 enclosure. Needless to say there are no problems with running these drives through the ports.
I have Kies 3 installed so any usb drivers needed for the note 3 should be fine. I'm stumped so anyone that can help me troubleshoot this I'd be grateful.
Have you tried enabling " USB Debugging " ?
hey_joe said:
Have you tried enabling " USB Debugging " ?
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Yes sorry I forgot to add that fact. It makes no difference.
Guess no one knows
i have somewhat similar problem, at some point of usb 3 file transfer the progress bar freezes and so is "my computer". interestingly the file transfer to note from the pc always works fine, but it always freezes at some point when copying files from note to pc, even during kies backup. usb 2.0 works flawlessly.
i've messed around with usb 3 drivers (asmedia) and even updated its firmware but the freezeups still remain.
gonna try usb 3 transfer on a different pc tomorrow.
evgenetic said:
i have somewhat similar problem, at some point of usb 3 file transfer the progress bar freezes and so is "my computer". interestingly the file transfer to note from the pc always works fine,.
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This sounds like a different problem but I did get to the bottom of my problem which turned out to be the Anker 2 port hub I had connected to the usb 3.0 port. I didn't think to eliminate this but when I connected directly the problem goes away so the hub I had bought purely to extend the ports for convenience is faulty or incompatible.
Perhaps you have an extension or hub too in which case I'd make sure you connect directly.
USB3 seems a bit flaky in implementation. I had probs with my N3, a Corsair USB3 stick and a USB3 ext HDD. Problem turned out to be the ports on the PC. They would work with most devices but were intermittent or non-functional on others. Of course, among the USB3 devices it WOULD work with were the ones the vendor had. For some devices it behaved like the USB3 extra connectors in the plug or socket weren't long enough - push it in harder or push it sideways slightly and it would connect but drop as soon as you let go. (not good to do 0 USB carries power and this is a good way to get an arc across the plug and fry things)
The PC vendor gave me an add-on front port panel and all is fine now. Even though it plugs into the same port on the MB.
Note the USB3 HDD still pops up the 'check drive' error every time I connect but I haven't taken the time to nuke it and rebuild yet. But the Corsair now works and so does the phone.
Ah, the joys of the MTP protocol...
Same issue here. As well as it stops responding halfway through a transfer, crashes the connection when making a new folder, takes about 3 years to copy 1GB, randomly disconnects...
My TF700 started doing this after the 4.1.2 update removed UMS. My S3, same story. My Note 3, same story. 29 different computers, 4 different systems (XP, 7, 8, OSX). Different cables, different ports, with and without drivers, with and without USB debugging.
I bloody hate MTP. It's useless, limiting (because now it can't be used as a drive to attach to a mediaplayer via USB..) and about as stable as nitroglycerin during an earthquake.
Journyman16 said:
.... the plug or socket weren't long enough - push it in harder or push it sideways slightly and it would connect but drop as soon as you let go. (not good to do 0 USB carries power and this is a good way to get an arc across the plug and fry things)
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I thought I'd give up on hubs and just get an extension as my USB3.0 is on the back of the computer and not that accessible.
I've seen a lot of complaints about hubs and simple extensions that have this poor connectivity which seems crazy to me since it's a bit more important to have a solid connection on USB 3 plugs, besides which it's not as though the usb connectors are rocket science.
I'll try the extension and hope I get a reasonable one.
well i did try the usb 3.0 file transfer on a different pc with a different usb controller and it worked fine, copied my 5gb music folder to the pc without any problems. so in my case i guess it's some incompatibility with the asmedia 104x controller (i did connect directly in both cases and the same cable was used).
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ShadowLea said:
Ah, the joys of the MTP protocol...
Same issue here. As well as it stops responding halfway through a transfer, crashes the connection when making a new folder, takes about 3 years to copy 1GB, randomly disconnects...
My TF700 started doing this after the 4.1.2 update removed UMS. My S3, same story. My Note 3, same story. 29 different computers, 4 different systems (XP, 7, 8, OSX). Different cables, different ports, with and without drivers, with and without USB debugging.
I bloody hate MTP. It's useless, limiting (because now it can't be used as a drive to attach to a mediaplayer via USB..) and about as stable as nitroglycerin during an earthquake.
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it seems like it is indeed MTP issue here ! i rolled back to the old 2006 microsoft driver and i managed to do a full backup including music and everything else with kies. but after a while i tried again and it froze up again, i'll keep experimenting.
Sorry to resurrect this 3 month old thread but is there any way to fix this?
Whenever I want backup anything from my phone storage to PC, I have to do it in chunks of like, 50 files or less (huge PITA with TiBU). If I try to copy the whole folder, my computer locks up and I have to hard reset it. I've tried everything mentioned here short of buying a new USB3 controller.

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