[Q] Power Consumption with POGO attatched - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My Nexus 10 is rooted and on stock Kernel/ROM with locked bootloader.
I've just bought a TV tuner (Elgato EyeTV 3) that connects to the Micro-usb port - It works great - all of the freeview channels in my area within minutes of install.
I've also got a POGO charge cable. It charges my N10 OK using the official charger.
I had thought that using both together would increase battery life whilst using the tuner, but that's not what I've found, it makes almost no difference to battery life whether I use the POGO or not.
After 1 hour with POGO the battery fell 19% with the tuner on BBC 1, volume at 50%. (100% > 81%)
After 1 hour with NO POGO, the battery fell 20% with the tuner on BBC 1, volume at 50%. (100% > 80%).
I can't understand this as I've read on other threads that the POGO continues to charge even when using the microUSB port, based on my findings above this appears not to be the case.
I cannot find any options anywhere to ensure that the POGO continues to charge whilst the USB port is in use.
Am I missing something somewhere ?, do I need to use a different Kernel/Rom ?
Does anyone have any ideas that might clarify this for me ?

Try using the USB port but in another way (is not the TV tuner) w/ Pogo and see what the results are...

praed0r said:
My Nexus 10 is rooted and on stock Kernel/ROM with locked bootloader.
I've just bought a TV tuner (Elgato EyeTV 3) that connects to the Micro-usb port - It works great - all of the freeview channels in my area within minutes of install.
I've also got a POGO charge cable. It charges my N10 OK using the official charger.
I had thought that using both together would increase battery life whilst using the tuner, but that's not what I've found, it makes almost no difference to battery life whether I use the POGO or not.
After 1 hour with POGO the battery fell 19% with the tuner on BBC 1, volume at 50%. (100% > 81%)
After 1 hour with NO POGO, the battery fell 20% with the tuner on BBC 1, volume at 50%. (100% > 80%).
I can't understand this as I've read on other threads that the POGO continues to charge even when using the microUSB port, based on my findings above this appears not to be the case.
I cannot find any options anywhere to ensure that the POGO continues to charge whilst the USB port is in use.
Am I missing something somewhere ?, do I need to use a different Kernel/Rom ?
Does anyone have any ideas that might clarify this for me ?
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Its been my and many other's experience that the device can't charge on POGO and use USB OTG at the same time, sadly

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Thinkpad tablet slow charge analyzed

I have TPT for 10 days now.
I have usual iisue with USB charging. When used like standard smartphone = put it to charger overnight. Not usable anyway. Charge rate about 5% per hour, which means 20 hours per full charge???
I even consulted it with local technical support. I was adviced to buy docking station with external power adapter .....
So ... I took regulated power supply, made a USB socket connected to it and started to measure
.. and look what I found
When device is switched on, usb power oscilates sligthly under 1000 mA. It is NOT using all available power of 2 Amps of stock power adapter!!!!!
But ... when I power the device off using power button. The current goes down to 300mA for about 5seconds and then raises to full 2 A!
Conclusion? It seems like control issue of the charging ciurcits. What if we can enable full 2A power even when turned on? SW issue?
Is there any chance, how to instruct internal power circuity to use all available power? ADB?
Well I guess that explains the slow charging that people have been reporting. I picked up a dock for my tablet from amazon for about $30 shipped. Now I just put my USB charger in my bag for when I am out and about and dock it when I get home. That being said when I was charging via USB before I had the dock, a full charge seemed to take about 6 hours or so.
As for your question regarding modifying the input charging rate while powered on, I am not sure that can be done via ADB. I am taking a stab in the dark here, but I wouldn't be surprised if the charging rate was hard coded into the power circuit. Which would make some sense so as not to draw to much power if someone wanted to try and charge their tablet while having it plugged into a laptop or USB hub. I am not sure if it has an auto sense capability to determine whether or not it is charging via USB from a port or from the power adapter. I do know when I hook it up to my computer to transfer files it offers me the option to charge via USB, but I think that is a software thing and not hardware. I could be wrong. Maybe if we had access to the board schematics I could figure out. I can read schematics and might be able to figure it out.
Any chance you could get a proper reading via the docking port on the tablet? I would be curious to see if it is always at 2A. I haven't counted the pins but I don't see why you would need more than VCC+, VCC-, GND and maybe a sense line. But I know there are more than 4 pins.
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I would say this is a SW issue. Maybe if we had the kernel source code someone could cook up a custom kernel with that control feature tweeked.
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Any chance you could get a proper reading via the docking port on the tablet? I would be curious to see if it is always at 2A. I haven't counted the pins but I don't see why you would need more than VCC+, VCC-, GND and maybe a sense line. But I know there are more than 4 pins.
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The best thing to use is a watt meter if anyone wants to pursue this.
My findings indicated that the dock has a similar issue as the USB charger when the TPT is on.
Maximum current allowed at the dock connector was measured at just over 1A . Dock should charge the battery at a maximum rate of just over 1% per minute provided the battery charge level is below 70%. So if you discharge the battery to around 50% and compare charge rates you should see the difference between TPT on/off.

Charge from USB

I figured I would share this since I have not found another thread with this info.
The Galaxy Note 10.1 will charge from usb.
I find this interesting because no tablet, at least none I have known, will do this. They all need to be actually plugged into a wall outlet to charge. However, my note 10.1 has charged from around 13% to 32% plugged into USB. Now, mind you , it doesnt charge very fast, but it does charge.
For some this won't matter. In my case, that 3 ft cord doesnt go from the floor outlet to my desk at work too easily, but the usb will plug in very easily and reach where I need it too. At the very least, it will add a little more time to the length of the batter. I work a 10 hour shift, not adding in the hour for lunch, and I can usually made it about 8 hours. So this may get me the extra two hours I need...hopefully.
phoenixbennu said:
I figured I would share this since I have not found another thread with this info.
The Galaxy Note 10.1 will charge from usb.
I find this interesting because no tablet, at least none I have known, will do this. They all need to be actually plugged into a wall outlet to charge. However, my note 10.1 has charged from around 13% to 32% plugged into USB. Now, mind you , it doesnt charge very fast, but it does charge.
For some this won't matter. In my case, that 3 ft cord doesnt go from the floor outlet to my desk at work too easily, but the usb will plug in very easily and reach where I need it too. At the very least, it will add a little more time to the length of the batter. I work a 10 hour shift, not adding in the hour for lunch, and I can usually made it about 8 hours. So this may get me the extra two hours I need...hopefully.
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Hmm, I think mine claims not to (it puts an X on the battery icon), but I didn't leave it plugged into my computer long enough to see whether it charged or not. I think all tablets can potentially charge via USB port on a PC, it's just that most disable it out of the box but eg. for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 custom kernels could enable charging over USB.
iofthestorm said:
Hmm, I think mine claims not to (it puts an X on the battery icon), but I didn't leave it plugged into my computer long enough to see whether it charged or not. I think all tablets can potentially charge via USB port on a PC, it's just that most disable it out of the box but eg. for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 custom kernels could enable charging over USB.
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Mine also puts the RED X over the battery icon whether I try to charge it through a PC USB port or other USB charging port other than the Samsung adapter (Goal Zero 150 usb port and Panatech 10000mah external USB battery pack). The tablet shows that it is charging when i view it using GO POWER MASTER app. Watched it for 5 minutes but with WIFI off, it still dropped from 88% to 87%. I am however using the stock kernel.
It charges faster if you have the screen off. The usb gives more or less what you need to keep it running with the screen on.
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Mine put the red X on the battery icon as well, but still charged. I had to have the screen off.
I had mind plugged into my USB 3.0 port (which should really make a difference) to transfer some files, and then just left it plugged in and it charges. Its definitely a trickle charge, but I am glad to see it does this, as my a500 did not.
When I transferred 40Gb of data to the mSD via MTP (screen off) and called up the batt-graph after disconnection it showed me a fair charging rate. Not stunning but at least a noticeable charge ( from 63% to 82% in three hours).
So it does charge the battery, in spite of the red X?
Yes it does, albeit very slowly.
You guys are misinterpreting the red x. Just got off the phone with Samsung. The x stands for "extra awesome charging". I swear.
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phoenixbennu said:
I figured I would share this since I have not found another thread with this info.
The Galaxy Note 10.1 will charge from usb.
I find this interesting because no tablet, at least none I have known, will do this. They all need to be actually plugged into a wall outlet to charge. However, my note 10.1 has charged from around 13% to 32% plugged into USB. Now, mind you , it doesnt charge very fast, but it does charge.
For some this won't matter. In my case, that 3 ft cord doesnt go from the floor outlet to my desk at work too easily, but the usb will plug in very easily and reach where I need it too. At the very least, it will add a little more time to the length of the batter. I work a 10 hour shift, not adding in the hour for lunch, and I can usually made it about 8 hours. So this may get me the extra two hours I need...hopefully.
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Interesting, because every tablet I've owned (Tab 10.1 and Nexus 7) behaved like this.
They will charge VERY slowly on USB - and will likely not charge at all if the screen is on due to the total unit power consumption being >500 mA.
Entropy512 said:
Interesting, because every tablet I've owned (Tab 10.1 and Nexus 7) behaved like this.
They will charge VERY slowly on USB - and will likely not charge at all if the screen is on due to the total unit power consumption being >500 mA.
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Same here. iPads, nook color, Samsung tablets, all say not charging but do trickle charge if you are doing anything to drain it faster than thenusb can supply. It takes around 8 to 10 hours to charge my gt101 through regular USB 2.0.
mitchellvii said:
You guys are misinterpreting the red x. Just got off the phone with Samsung. The x stands for "extra awesome charging". I swear.
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Bwahahaha... A friend of mine posted on twitter that Apple should make something that lets iDevices charge each other... Ours actually can because of USB host! I actually lost the usb host adapter for my old galaxy tab so I need to get a new one but I had one for my gs3, and it does charge my tablet. But the reverse is clearly more useful.
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Tested again when attached to Notebook by USB:
Screen on at max. Brightness and working: batt charge stays level
Screen off: batt charges approx. 5% per hour
Tested on GNote charger (1A output)
Screen on : charging very slowly (approx. 3% per hour)
Screen off: charging approx. 8% per hour
Tested on iPad charger:
Slower than original charger although max. Output:
The more items you have attacht to your computers USB the less power it has to allow your tablet to draw for charging.
donec said:
The more items you have attacht to your computers USB the less power it has to allow your tablet to draw for charging.
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I don't think this is the case. The USB ports provide a set power output, and not variable by available power supply type of output.
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I don't think this is the case. The USB ports provide a set power output, and not variable by available power supply type of output.
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You are correct they are not variable but they only have a given amount ofpwer available and if you are drawing the max and add another device that needs more power to charge the power will not be available.
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You are correct they are not variable but they only have a given amount ofpwer available and if you are drawing the max and add another device that needs more power to charge the power will not be available.
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Of course, everything has a limited power availability, USB ports being no exception, whether having their own psu or bus powered or whatever your setup may be, but unless you are doing something beyond practical use or have a poorly designed setup, than this should not be a problem. I know some systems out there, the mac book pro for example, specific limits USB power output between ports by design (you may even call it variable haha...but by design). However, in a general sense, you should not have a power output issue with simply plugging in for usb charging., even if all other ports are used up as well. So don't daisy chain, or do anything like that. Practical use should be fine. I personally hook my usb charged devices, like my phone, to my monitor at work. It was a few usb ports on the side, and it works great. Also, it keeps me from having to deal with all the annoying security popups that go with plugging it into the actual computer.
In a probably unfunny but still remotely amusing anecdote, I remember the massive work I put my a500 through. I used to have a usb hub attached with 2 1tb portable hard drives, a keyboard, a mouse, my phones, and more all charging directly from USB. Never had trouble with power issues, aside from quicker draining of the battery. lol.
does anyone know if charging is possible when you use an Y adapter on USB-OTG to hook up an external harddrive and a charger at the same time?
cproaudio said:
does anyone know if charging is possible when you use an Y adapter on USB-OTG to hook up an external harddrive and a charger at the same time?
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Barring any specific device hardware limitations, it is possible to do data transfer and power transfer at the same time using a y cable. Its essentially the same thing as using a usb hub, except you only have two ports instead of 4 or more.
As for actual practical use on the note, I have not tried it out, and I am not aware of any limitations built into software or hardware to prevent it. So, I do not see you having a problem with it.
Almost all tablets can charge through regular USB2 if they're sleeping (or better - powered off).
USB has power limits (USB1.1 is 100mA, USB2.0 is 500mA and USB3 is 2A) BUT these are the 'minimum maximums', if you will. That is, these are the current source *required* for certification. It's entirely permissable for a USB port to provide as much current as it wants - it just can't be limited to *less* than these amounts.
USB 2.0 and later ports are also supposed to implement 'overcurrent' warnings if the device is taking more current than the port can provide..
That's why, for example, some ports can drive a CDROM or external HD drive without a problem - while other ones can't.
The Note 10.1 needs a little over 2A @ 5V to charge at a reasonable rate.
One other note, if you let your battery drain very low, then the lower current of most USB 2 ports won't be enough to charge it even if it's off. The charge current curve isn't linear.

Galaxy S4 & Prolonged Navigation Use

I own a Galaxy S2. I have tried it using for navigation many times only to find that the battery discharges fully within 2 hours even if the phone is connected to a car charger. I used to think may be its because my car charger doesn't provide enough current to maintain the charge. But recently I found out the culprit. After around 20 minutes of use, the phone battery starts heating up, and it stops charging. I verified this with CPU-Z. It clearly shows battery overheated, power supply connected and not charging.
I was wondering if S4 also has similar issue. Has anybody used it for more than 2 hours with Google Navigation continuously while connected to car charger?
unni_kmr said:
I own a Galaxy S2. I have tried it using for navigation many times only to find that the battery discharges fully within 2 hours even if the phone is connected to a car charger. I used to think may be its because my car charger doesn't provide enough current to maintain the charge. But recently I found out the culprit. After around 20 minutes of use, the phone battery starts heating up, and it stops charging. I verified this with CPU-Z. It clearly shows battery overheated, power supply connected and not charging.
I was wondering if S4 also has similar issue. Has anybody used it for more than 2 hours with Google Navigation continuously while connected to car charger?
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The most I have used it for is about an hour and half, and while the phone did heat up, it did continue to keep charging while connected to my in-car charger (just a cheap one). I can't remember whether the charger was able to keep up with the discharge though, I think it did. I was driving in bright sunlight, so I had screen brightness on max throughout that time.
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The most I have used it for is about an hour and half, and while the phone did heat up, it did continue to keep charging while connected to my in-car charger (just a cheap one). I can't remember whether the charger was able to keep up with the discharge though, I think it did. I was driving in bright sunlight, so I had screen brightness on max throughout that time.
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I've found that the USB cable can have a big impact on the charging current. I had the same problem with my car charger not keeping the phone charged, even though I was using a 2A charger. When I changed the USB cable I managed to quadruple the charging current (from 300ma to 1200ma) and solved the problem (I measured the charging current using the Galaxy Charging Current Lite app).
HTH
itm said:
I've found that the USB cable can have a big impact on the charging current. I had the same problem with my car charger not keeping the phone charged, even though I was using a 2A charger. When I changed the USB cable I managed to quadruple the charging current (from 300ma to 1200ma) and solved the problem (I measured the charging current using the Galaxy Charging Current Lite app).
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In my case, I believe it was not because of the charging current or cable. I was trying with a car charger capable of charging a laptop, using the wall charger and cable which came with the phone. When the mobile stopped charging, I checked in CPU-Z app. The app was clearly showing status as "power supply connected, not charging and battery overheated". If I unplug the USB cable and connect it back, it will start charging again!
To make sure that I didn't miss anything, I will try with the app you suggested.
Just to update: The Galaxy Charging Current Lite doesn't seem to work with my Galaxy S2. It doesn't show any value.

roms for fast charging

hey guys i bought my niece a 2012 nexus 7 it has the axus charge with different usb cable but it charge so slow
i was wondering if there is a rom with better charging speed
i havent root and is wifi version
What does "so slow" mean? As in, how many minutes to change 10% in charge?
One thing you can do to troubleshoot things is to see how long it takes to charge the tablet when it is completely shut off. It should be pretty obvious that "the ROM" has absolutely nothing to do with that scenario. Wait till the tablet is discharged to about 10%, shut it off, and charge it for 90 minutes. If it is charging normally it will be close to 70% charge when you boot it back up.
If your tablet charges slowly in that case, then there is a problem with the charger, cable, or battery in the tablet - not the ROM. So, you should surely check that out first before you start worrying about software.
A nominal N7 (2012, WiFi) will charge from 5% to 100% in about 150 minutes: 2.5 hours. That's with a STOCK ROM. If you look at the battery capacity, that works out to a minimum 1.73A charging rate. (4.325 Amp-hours / 2.5 hours = 1.73 A). It's actually higher than that because a certain amount of charging current is "lost" to heat generation while charging.
The tab will ALWAYS charge slower than that if it is in use, especially if the screen is on and the owner is doing things like streaming data or playing games. If it is under heavy use, the tablet itself could easily dissipating 1.0 A of current... so in that case the 2.5 hour charging time would be over twice as long: over 5 hours.
The "fast charge" ROMs are not what you are thinking. "fast charge" there means "fast charge under conditions normally restricted to low currents when data transfer is taking place". If you are using a charge-only cable (such as the OEM charger and cable), the tablet should always be able to draw close to 2A of current with ANY ROM - there is no data connection present, and the tablet is not restricted in the current it can draw.
The ROMs don't really throttle the battery charging rate except in that very specific condition: when there is a data connection present. So, worrying about which ROM is installed really only applies to people that want to use a Y-cable and a live USB data connection (tethering or an OTG gadget attached) - for instance in car installs or maybe with data tethering via USB.
good luck
bftb0 said:
What does "so slow" mean? As in, how many minutes to change 10% in charge?
One thing you can do to troubleshoot things is to see how long it takes to charge the tablet when it is completely shut off. It should be pretty obvious that "the ROM" has absolutely nothing to do with that scenario. Wait till the tablet is discharged to about 10%, shut it off, and charge it for 90 minutes. If it is charging normally it will be close to 70% charge when you boot it back up.
If your tablet charges slowly in that case, then there is a problem with the charger, cable, or battery in the tablet - not the ROM. So, you should surely check that out first before you start worrying about software.
A nominal N7 (2012, WiFi) will charge from 5% to 100% in about 150 minutes: 2.5 hours. That's with a STOCK ROM. If you look at the battery capacity, that works out to a minimum 1.73A charging rate. (4.325 Amp-hours / 2.5 hours = 1.73 A). It's actually higher than that because a certain amount of charging current is "lost" to heat generation while charging.
The tab will ALWAYS charge slower than that if it is in use, especially if the screen is on and the owner is doing things like streaming data or playing games. If it is under heavy use, the tablet itself could easily dissipating 1.0 A of current... so in that case the 2.5 hour charging time would be over twice as long: over 5 hours.
The "fast charge" ROMs are not what you are thinking. "fast charge" there means "fast charge under conditions normally restricted to low currents when data transfer is taking place". If you are using a charge-only cable (such as the OEM charger and cable), the tablet should always be able to draw close to 2A of current with ANY ROM - there is no data connection present, and the tablet is not restricted in the current it can draw.
The ROMs don't really throttle the battery charging rate except in that very specific condition: when there is a data connection present. So, worrying about which ROM is installed really only applies to people that want to use a Y-cable and a live USB data connection (tethering or an OTG gadget attached) - for instance in car installs or maybe with data tethering via USB.
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thanx man now i get it it won charge fast like the note 3
i was playing fifa 14 and didnt charge at all it was loosing power
mrej201 said:
hey guys i bought my niece a 2012 nexus 7 it has the axus charge with different usb cable but it charge so slow
i was wondering if there is a rom with better charging speed
i havent root and is wifi version
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Get a better cable. I was using a third party cable on my Nexus 7 for a while and realized it was only charging about 10-15%/hr.. Changed the cable out for a better one and it charges at the normal rate now, 30%/hr or so.
Do check for loose connections for both battery connector and usb ribbon connector (under speakers). I’ve opened the back cover to check after slow charging problems and was solved by opening and clipping back the usb ribbon connector. Charging's back to normal now.
http://androidforums.com/nexus-7-20...esting-while-diagnosing-charging-trouble.html
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Do check for loose connections for both battery connector and usb ribbon connector (under speakers). I’ve opened the back cover to check after slow charging problems and was solved by opening and clipping back the usb ribbon connector. Charging's back to normal now.
http://androidforums.com/nexus-7-20...esting-while-diagnosing-charging-trouble.html
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thanx bro

NEXUS 7 slow charging problem solved?

Last week, I found that my nexus 7 (16g wifi only) start to charge really slow or even not charging. This happen after I upgrade my tablet to android 4.4.2(no root, no mod). I tried all the ways I could found on internet such as disconnect the battery and reconnect after few minutes, downgrade to android 4.3 or 4.2, changing to different type of charger and so on but failed.
After tried for few days, I was frustrated and decided to throw away the tablet. But 2 days ago, when I tried to charge the tablet with samsung galaxy tab2 7.0 charger, I manage to charge from 0% to 50% in two hour. I thought my tablet was back to alive but the tablet stop charging after 50% battery. I tried with oem 2A charger or cheapo china ipad charger and the charging starts but slow and sometimes not charging. I search online and found out that the samsung tab2 7.0 charger has 1.2V at both data pins and both data pins was shorted. I checked my asus oem charger and found out that both data pin was shorted but no voltage supplied.
I take a usb cable, strip and cut both data wire and short both data wire at micro usb side. I connect the tablet to the samsung charger and the tablet start charging and charge at normal speed to 100%. I thought that was the solution but yesterday, when I tried to charge the tablet which has 10% battery remains with samsung charger and my modified usb cable, the tablet charge, but in slow rate. I take half a day to charge to 50%. i exchange the moded usb cable with a normal usb cable and this time the tablet charge to around 80% in one hour. I was confused. Does my tablet need voltage of 1.2V at both data pins for the tablet to recognize as normal charger?
I start to do my experiment by using the oem charger. I apply around 1.2V by using resistors connect to the +5v and gnd. My tablet start to charge at normal rate that i can get the increment in battery % after 1 or 2 minutes in screen off mode. After charge to around 25% my tablet stop charging. I checked the data pins voltage and found out to be around 1.8V. 1.8V??? not 1.2V??? I check the resistors connection and disconnect my tablet from the usb cable. The data pins is now 1.2V. I connect my tablet back to the usb cable, wait for the tablet to start charging at normal rate and disconnect the data wires from the resistor. I tested with multimeter and found out that there was a voltage of 3.1V at data pins (shorted together) from the tablet when charging.
After a few tries by changing the resistors with different values to increase or decrease the data pins voltage, I manage to get a combinations that works well with my charger and my tablet charge normally. With the resistor combination, I get a voltage of 0.5V when no tablet connected and around 1.2V when tablet connected and start charging by using a resistor of 1Kohm connect from the +5V pin to the data pin and 100ohm connect from the data pin to the ground. Actually my tablet shows sign of normal charging when I apply 1V to 1.5V to the data pins that I choose 1.2V for full charging testing. I manage to charge my tablet from 0% to around 30% by using the samsung charger, 30% to 60% using the cheap ipad charger and 60% to 100% using the oem charger. No sign of stop charging or slow charging during the charging process. Maybe this is the solution to the charging problem?
I hope that someone which is more professional in this fields will try my way and give me the final results of the most suitable resistor combination or is my way of solution, or is this just an coincidence or my solution can only be applied onto my tablet? Warning: Try at your own risk.
fix foe nexus 7 slow charging
samuraiman said:
Last week, I found that my nexus 7 (16g wifi only) start to charge really slow or even not charging. This happen after I upgrade my tablet to android 4.4.2(no root, no mod). I tried all the ways I could found on internet such as disconnect the battery and reconnect after few minutes, downgrade to android 4.3 or 4.2, changing to different type of charger and so on but failed.
After tried for few days, I was frustrated and decided to throw away the tablet. But 2 days ago, when I tried to charge the tablet with samsung galaxy tab2 7.0 charger, I manage to charge from 0% to 50% in two hour. I thought my tablet was back to alive but the tablet stop charging after 50% battery. I tried with oem 2A charger or cheapo china ipad charger and the charging starts but slow and sometimes not charging. I search online and found out that the samsung tab2 7.0 charger has 1.2V at both data pins and both data pins was shorted. I checked my asus oem charger and found out that both data pin was shorted but no voltage supplied.
I take a usb cable, strip and cut both data wire and short both data wire at micro usb side. I connect the tablet to the samsung charger and the tablet start charging and charge at normal speed to 100%. I thought that was the solution but yesterday, when I tried to charge the tablet which has 10% battery remains with samsung charger and my modified usb cable, the tablet charge, but in slow rate. I take half a day to charge to 50%. i exchange the moded usb cable with a normal usb cable and this time the tablet charge to around 80% in one hour. I was confused. Does my tablet need voltage of 1.2V at both data pins for the tablet to recognize as normal charger?
I start to do my experiment by using the oem charger. I apply around 1.2V by using resistors connect to the +5v and gnd. My tablet start to charge at normal rate that i can get the increment in battery % after 1 or 2 minutes in screen off mode. After charge to around 25% my tablet stop charging. I checked the data pins voltage and found out to be around 1.8V. 1.8V??? not 1.2V??? I check the resistors connection and disconnect my tablet from the usb cable. The data pins is now 1.2V. I connect my tablet back to the usb cable, wait for the tablet to start charging at normal rate and disconnect the data wires from the resistor. I tested with multimeter and found out that there was a voltage of 3.1V at data pins (shorted together) from the tablet when charging.
After a few tries by changing the resistors with different values to increase or decrease the data pins voltage, I manage to get a combinations that works well with my charger and my tablet charge normally. With the resistor combination, I get a voltage of 0.5V when no tablet connected and around 1.2V when tablet connected and start charging by using a resistor of 1Kohm connect from the +5V pin to the data pin and 100ohm connect from the data pin to the ground. Actually my tablet shows sign of normal charging when I apply 1V to 1.5V to the data pins that I choose 1.2V for full charging testing. I manage to charge my tablet from 0% to around 30% by using the samsung charger, 30% to 60% using the cheap ipad charger and 60% to 100% using the oem charger. No sign of stop charging or slow charging during the charging process. Maybe this is the solution to the charging problem?
I hope that someone which is more professional in this fields will try my way and give me the final results of the most suitable resistor combination or is my way of solution, or is this just an coincidence or my solution can only be applied onto my tablet? Warning: Try at your own risk.
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here's what i posted at google forums. hope it helps you
FIXED!!!
and i didnt wait for google to solve it. they take ages.
as one of the pioneers of this thread, trust me i have tried everything, and started solutions you can see if you back track a bit.
what does not work/or temporary works but not permanent:
>OS downgrading
>bootloader upgrading
>plug unplug with battery monitor (temporary)
>reseating battery cable
>changing chargers/cables/using OEM
>all else above
what works:
>dock
from what i observe, some symptoms of failure started prior to kitkat, as to some of the nexus' handled to me. and some kitkat dont have it.
and the dock works. led me to conclude it might be hardware, probably with the USB
THE FIX:
OPEN YOUR NEXUS 7 AND RESEAT THE USB CHARGING PORT FROM THE INSIDE. if you do not know how, this video will guide you:
(cannot post link) go to youtube and watch?v=m5FagzLdbbM
as you can see the 4:07 in the video is the most important, remove the usb port/audio port completely and reseat it, place it back tightly.
my tab was left at 0% charge, unable to charge anymore, so i was left with the option to tinker it. which to my delight, it charges now at 500-900mah. i tried to drain it and charge again charging-recharging 3 times before posting it here to make sure it was not sheer luck, and so it did.
its a hardware problem guys. i just wish google/asus had the courage to admit it rather than we find it ourselves. go ahead try it. post if it works
for you. it worked for me.
emanlee said:
here's what i posted at google forums. hope it helps you
FIXED!!!
and i didnt wait for google to solve it. they take ages.
as one of the pioneers of this thread, trust me i have tried everything, and started solutions you can see if you back track a bit.
what does not work/or temporary works but not permanent:
>OS downgrading
>bootloader upgrading
>plug unplug with battery monitor (temporary)
>reseating battery cable
>changing chargers/cables/using OEM
>all else above
what works:
>dock
from what i observe, some symptoms of failure started prior to kitkat, as to some of the nexus' handled to me. and some kitkat dont have it.
and the dock works. led me to conclude it might be hardware, probably with the USB
THE FIX:
OPEN YOUR NEXUS 7 AND RESEAT THE USB CHARGING PORT FROM THE INSIDE. if you do not know how, this video will guide you:
(cannot post link) go to youtube and watch?v=m5FagzLdbbM
as you can see the 4:07 in the video is the most important, remove the usb port/audio port completely and reseat it, place it back tightly.
my tab was left at 0% charge, unable to charge anymore, so i was left with the option to tinker it. which to my delight, it charges now at 500-900mah. i tried to drain it and charge again charging-recharging 3 times before posting it here to make sure it was not sheer luck, and so it did.
its a hardware problem guys. i just wish google/asus had the courage to admit it rather than we find it ourselves. go ahead try it. post if it works
for you. it worked for me.
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thx mate .. how do you know what the actual charge rate is? on my Galaxy S3 there is an app for that, but can't find anything that works on this unit. thx
jj92942000 said:
thx mate .. how do you know what the actual charge rate is? on my Galaxy S3 there is an app for that, but can't find anything that works on this unit. thx
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw
Nexus 7 slow charging problem
Thanks emanlee, worked for me. I thought my battery was weak. Made my day.
emanlee said:
here's what i posted at google forums. hope it helps you
FIXED!!!
and i didnt wait for google to solve it. they take ages.
as one of the pioneers of this thread, trust me i have tried everything, and started solutions you can see if you back track a bit.
what does not work/or temporary works but not permanent:
>OS downgrading
>bootloader upgrading
>plug unplug with battery monitor (temporary)
>reseating battery cable
>changing chargers/cables/using OEM
>all else above
what works:
>dock
from what i observe, some symptoms of failure started prior to kitkat, as to some of the nexus' handled to me. and some kitkat dont have it.
and the dock works. led me to conclude it might be hardware, probably with the USB
THE FIX:
OPEN YOUR NEXUS 7 AND RESEAT THE USB CHARGING PORT FROM THE INSIDE. if you do not know how, this video will guide you:
(cannot post link) go to youtube and watch?v=m5FagzLdbbM
as you can see the 4:07 in the video is the most important, remove the usb port/audio port completely and reseat it, place it back tightly.
my tab was left at 0% charge, unable to charge anymore, so i was left with the option to tinker it. which to my delight, it charges now at 500-900mah. i tried to drain it and charge again charging-recharging 3 times before posting it here to make sure it was not sheer luck, and so it did.
its a hardware problem guys. i just wish google/asus had the courage to admit it rather than we find it ourselves. go ahead try it. post if it works
for you. it worked for me.
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emanlee said:
here's what i posted at google forums. hope it helps you
FIXED!!!
and i didnt wait for google to solve it. they take ages.
as one of the pioneers of this thread, trust me i have tried everything, and started solutions you can see if you back track a bit.
what does not work/or temporary works but not permanent:
>OS downgrading
>bootloader upgrading
>plug unplug with battery monitor (temporary)
>reseating battery cable
>changing chargers/cables/using OEM
>all else above
what works:
>dock
from what i observe, some symptoms of failure started prior to kitkat, as to some of the nexus' handled to me. and some kitkat dont have it.
and the dock works. led me to conclude it might be hardware, probably with the USB
THE FIX:
OPEN YOUR NEXUS 7 AND RESEAT THE USB CHARGING PORT FROM THE INSIDE. if you do not know how, this video will guide you:
(cannot post link) go to youtube and watch?v=m5FagzLdbbM
as you can see the 4:07 in the video is the most important, remove the usb port/audio port completely and reseat it, place it back tightly.
my tab was left at 0% charge, unable to charge anymore, so i was left with the option to tinker it. which to my delight, it charges now at 500-900mah. i tried to drain it and charge again charging-recharging 3 times before posting it here to make sure it was not sheer luck, and so it did.
its a hardware problem guys. i just wish google/asus had the courage to admit it rather than we find it ourselves. go ahead try it. post if it works
for you. it worked for me.
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I have an old Nexus 7 and was about to toss it out because it wouldn't charge, this took 20 minutes and now it charges as it did when new - great.
Thanks.
emanlee said:
fix foe nexus 7 slow charging
here's what i posted at google forums. hope it helps you
FIXED!!!
and i didnt wait for google to solve it. they take ages.
as one of the pioneers of this thread, trust me i have tried everything, and started solutions you can see if you back track a bit.
what does not work/or temporary works but not permanent:
>OS downgrading
>bootloader upgrading
>plug unplug with battery monitor (temporary)
>reseating battery cable
>changing chargers/cables/using OEM
>all else above
what works:
>dock
from what i observe, some symptoms of failure started prior to kitkat, as to some of the nexus' handled to me. and some kitkat dont have it.
and the dock works. led me to conclude it might be hardware, probably with the USB
THE FIX:
OPEN YOUR NEXUS 7 AND RESEAT THE USB CHARGING PORT FROM THE INSIDE. if you do not know how, this video will guide you:
(cannot post link) go to youtube and watch?v=m5FagzLdbbM
as you can see the 4:07 in the video is the most important, remove the usb port/audio port completely and reseat it, place it back tightly.
my tab was left at 0% charge, unable to charge anymore, so i was left with the option to tinker it. which to my delight, it charges now at 500-900mah. i tried to drain it and charge again charging-recharging 3 times before posting it here to make sure it was not sheer luck, and so it did.
its a hardware problem guys. i just wish google/asus had the courage to admit it rather than we find it ourselves. go ahead try it. post if it works
for you. it worked for me.
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Thank you very much, it has also fixed the issue to me. The tablet is not ready yet to become e-waste. Genius!

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