Vertical and horizontal banding? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I just received my Nexus 4 today, and I absolutely love it. Came from the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon. Switched to T-Mobile, and everything has been smooth so far.
However, after customizing up my home screen, (the same way it was set up on my Galaxy Nexus), I'm noticing a grid-like pattern in the background. I cannot tell if it's the background that I'm using, or if my phone has a faulty screen. It doesn't look like this on my previous phone. I attached a photo for you all to see. Was this/has this been a reported issue in the past?
Also, I feel as though it would be logical to assume that if it were a faulty screen that is the culprit, then the anomalies wouldn't be detectable in a screenshot. True/False?
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I should comment a bit further. I just took a photo of a piece of black paper and didn't notice any gray banding on it when viewed in the gallery.
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This is a screenshot and no photo, isn't it?
The banding you mention should be in your wallpaper.
Other than that, you might see the IPS display's sensors.
They are located right under the glas in a banding pattern and can be seen in high sunlight sometimes.

I havent seen any threads on n4 screen banding... I'm happy we don't have galaxy nexus displays our phones!

AcmE85 said:
This is a screenshot and no photo, isn't it?
The banding you mention should be in your wallpaper.
Other than that, you might see the IPS display's sensors.
They are located right under the glas in a banding pattern and can be seen in high sunlight sometimes.
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Yes, it's a screenshot. So you're saying this is normal, then?
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Notice that the large grey boxes and the black nav bar exhibit no banding. It's just your wallpaper....
Seriously?

Hung0702 said:
Notice that the large grey boxes and the black nav bar exhibit no banding. It's just your wallpaper....
Seriously?
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Look carefully and zoom into the gray parts of the photo. The banding is certainly there. No need for an aggressive response. I also mentioned that the exact wallpaper on my Galaxy Nexus has none of the banding. It cannot be the wallpaper.
Edit: I just realized that you mentioned the gray boxes, not the gray top portion of the photo. My apologies. Indeed you're right. That's peculiar, though. Curious as to why the photo is pitch black and not banded on my Galaxy Nexus. The displays are quite similar, aren't they?
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Lyxdeslic said:
Look carefully and zoom into the gray parts of the photo. The banding is certainly there. No need for an aggressive response. I also mentioned that the exact wallpaper on my Galaxy Nexus has none of the banding. It cannot be the wallpaper.
Edit: I just realized that you mentioned the gray boxes, not the gray top portion of the photo. My apologies. Indeed you're right. That's peculiar, though. Curious as to why the photo is pitch black and not banded on my Galaxy Nexus. The displays are quite similar, aren't they?
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Blacks on the gnex were as black as black gets, being amoled. The n4 uses some form of LCD, I think it's ips, the blacks are black but you can notice defects dark sections in lower quality/high compression pictures.

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New Galaxy S2 Batch Better Screen

I have bought 2 Galaxy S From the first batch for me and my.
Now I just purchased one for my father.
And his screen is much better, may be it is just the calibration
But the color seem more bright, vivid and white.
the color of mine is more yellow.
Just a thought
May be Samy improve for the last batch
No pictures and it didnt happen..
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mine is very white as well, I have seen the ones with yellowing and mine doesn't have it.
May be is only that i don't have chance and the 2 first i get is like that.
In fact i don't see a band like other thread mention, it just like calibration thing.
But it is ok, if i haven't see my dad's one i would never notice
i don't think picture would reveal that small details, and will send his phone to the dad day.
Thx
Have you checked the Settings>display> Background Effects to verify both are on the same setting, and yours isn't on movie?
I read somewhere that some specific models have a yellowish colour problem on the screen..
This really shouldn't be normal, so my best answer is to send it in for repair
No yellowing on mine all looks good.
Are both phones using the same brightness settings?
On my phone, when the brightness is low, whites have a yellow cast, but on full brightness, they look very good.
Mine is white as well. No yellowish color or pink spots on camera shots.
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Are both phones using the same brightness settings?
On my phone, when the brightness is low, whites have a yellow cast, but on full brightness, they look very good.
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I'm sorry to tell you, but you have the problem
Engadget: "Affected users are reporting that the left side of their Super AMOLED Plus displays have a yellow discoloration, viewable mainly with low brightness -- especially on white and grey backgrounds."
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I'm sorry to tell you, but you have the problem
Engadget: "Affected users are reporting that the left side of their Super AMOLED Plus displays have a yellow discoloration, viewable mainly with low brightness -- especially on white and grey backgrounds."
Source: http://mobile.engadget.com/2011/05/30/is-your-galaxy-s-iis-display-yellow-on-the-left/
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What he described is not the problem that people are facing.
BTW Engadget are simply repeating what people are saying here. They have no information of their own and it was people here mailing them that alerted them to the problem in the first place.
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Mine is white as well. No yellowish color or pink spots on camera shots.
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Photos?
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I've noticed on mine that the colour temperature gets warmer at lower brightnesses. Also dark grey takes on a brown cast. On full brightness it's perfect though. No left hand side yellow cast either that I can see.
There's 60 pages of discussion on this already and the points you're making have been made there a dozen times. Do we really need another 60 page thread on the exact same issue? In the other thread there's also a code to tell what version of screen you have. It would be interesting to see if the claimed "new batch" has a different version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079444
Interresting, Once at home i will check that
Serav said:
I've noticed on mine that the colour temperature gets warmer at lower brightnesses. Also dark grey takes on a brown cast. On full brightness it's perfect though. No left hand side yellow cast either that I can see.
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May be with time the screen degrade.
My Sgs2 seems a bit too green. But i can't notice too much yellow..
Btw the samoled+ is just awesome..
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Just checked my screen first batch from handtech and no discoloration in any brightness setting, might be a bad batch?
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The main question arises....HAS THE BANDING issue been rectified...so i can FINALLY go head with my S2 purchase ? I'm hesitant to purchase such an expensive device..KNOWING it has a very obvious banding defect...and it seems samsung is unaware of its existence!
I had to ask this question, when I had my S8500 I always set the Brightness to 0, still the screen was enough bright with vivid colors and good contrast looked very sharp and there was no Bluish tint on the screen. But here with S-AMOLED+ if I set the Brightness to mid level or higher then the screen performs well and probably beat the former screen. But when it's set to Auto brightness it seems that the screen has a bluish effect and the whites are not perfectly white, the pictures are not that crisp like it was on the former one, in this case I'd easily say that former screen was better. Now is this a feature of S-AMOLED+ or problem? In low or 0 brightness it is the S-AMOLED which perform much better but not S-AMOLED+ !

Possible Screen Issue. Need you guys help.

So I recently got a Galaxy Note and tried some wallpaper i used on my galaxy nexus and there is strange distortion in the image where the colors transitions. I'm interested to see if this is the Galaxy Note or just my Galaxy Note. Can you guys place the image on your devices and see if it shows the same distortion.
I attached the image to this post so you can put a clean image on your device.
Here is where the distortion is but of course you won't see it in the image unless you are looking at it on your note.
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i see wht u mean ... i tried it...but i think it happens becuz the pixels turns off under the colours becuz it's black ,, u cnt see it on lcd i guess if u tried
another possible issue it's becuz every pixel has 2 sub pixels instead of two so..it cant move to another colurs
I considered that but the Galaxy Nexus has pentile display as well that is Super Amoled. I would expect to see the same thing on that device but it might be that the pixels are a bit smaller on the GN. I honestly don't know but it concerned me a bit.
I cannot see any difference between the image on my phone and on my laptop.
I have tried with Screen Adjuster at 75% and -40 contrast, and without.
Interesting.. Do you have a white note or a blk/blue version?
This is a common issue in the Q/A section. Look for the a thread about video playback issues.
In short, the Note does a very poor job at rendering black levels. At some point, it completely drops off and instead of rendering a low level black, you get a completely turned off pixel. This creates the "black pixelated" effect in the wallpaper that you see. You can see this same effect if you took the default ICS stock wallpaper. You'll see it in the bottom left side of the wallpaper when viewed from a note.
Supercurio is working on a fix. People are also hoping that ICS will provide some relief to this issue so sit tight.
It is not a hardware defect, rest assured.
This effect will also occur in videos with dark scenes. One temporary remedy for now is to use high-resolution wallpapers and high-resolution videos. If you can, try using a 2500x1600 wallpaper or something higher. This reduces the black clipping/pixelation a little but does not eliminate it. Using a brighter themed wallpaper would help as well.
If you're using a dark wallpaper thinking that it'll save you power, don't bother. It is not significant power savings due to the fact that you'll swipe through your home screen and your brightly colored icons would have activated the parts of the wallpaper that were dark anyhow.
Cheers.
PoisonWolf said:
This is a common issue in the Q/A section. Look for the a thread about video playback issues.
In short, the Note does a very poor job at rendering black levels. At some point, it completely drops off and instead of rendering a low level black, you get a completely turned off pixel. This creates the "black pixelated" effect in the wallpaper that you see. You can see this same effect if you took the default ICS stock wallpaper. You'll see it in the bottom left side of the wallpaper when viewed from a note.
Supercurio is working on a fix. People are also hoping that ICS will provide some relief to this issue so sit tight.
It is not a hardware defect, rest assured.
This effect will also occur in videos with dark scenes. One temporary remedy for now is to use high-resolution wallpapers and high-resolution videos. If you can, try using a 2500x1600 wallpaper or something higher. This reduces the black clipping/pixelation a little but does not eliminate it. Using a brighter themed wallpaper would help as well.
If you're using a dark wallpaper thinking that it'll save you power, don't bother. It is not significant power savings due to the fact that you'll swipe through your home screen and your brightly colored icons would have activated the parts of the wallpaper that were dark anyhow.
Cheers.
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ahhh haa.. Thanks for that information. I have yet to see it in a video or paid close enough attention to catch it. I'm not too worried about wallpaper but when i saw that i was like hmmmm what is this about.
Thanks for that info. That answers all my questions.
This is the black crush issue which is discussed on the video issue, it also happens with images/games and basically anything on the screen.
Same issue for me
absolutely no pixelation on my note.
smooth transition to black
garytube said:
absolutely no pixelation on my note.
smooth transition to black
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Set your brightness to 0 and look at it in a dark room.
PoisonWolf said:
Set your brightness to 0 and look at it in a dark room.
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I'm aware of the issues, but there is no pixelation on my note. not with this particular picture. sorry
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Its interesting... After i read the post about the pixels being turned off the issue disappeared but I did lower the brightness and it did come back. Its apparently not an absolute under every circumstance but its definitely an issue. I'm less worried about it now though.
I gotta wait till ICS to make my final decision on whether to keep the note or to go back to the nexus

Screen has a DOT-LIKE GRID

I have a dot gird like pattern on the screen. It comes only when the sun light falls at a particular angle on the display.
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nope i haven't seen anything like that on my N4
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ak700 said:
I have a dot gird like pattern on the screen. It comes only when the sun light falls at a particular angle on the display.
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These are touch sensors. It's normal.
Since the N4 has thinner glass than most current phones, these dots are more visible than they are in other phones.
Edit: also some LG technology that embedded these in the glass or something. Tech jargons. But every Nexus 4 is like that. It's not a defect.
Yep, I got the same thing
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Thanks everyone. This is my first upgrade after many years. Was just trying to be on the safe side :highfive:
I knew what these were when I first saw them, but I'm surprised they exist. I thought the touch sensors were part of the display on these new LG panels. No?
I think it's more to protect the glass from UV discoloration of the glass. That's why x gear live did this on their glass protector for the galaxy nexus.
I think they look cool.
I Got It Also! Its also visible when the screen is lit, but you have to find them. Is this normal? All N4 has this? Why I can't see this on my iPad, and other touch devices?
arczangel said:
I Got It Also! Its also visible when the screen is lit, but you have to find them. Is this normal? All N4 has this? Why I can't see this on my iPad, and other touch devices?
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Because they're not as super awesome?
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If you look closer you can circuitry/sensors between the dots. Kinda like a radiator pattern.
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theyre normal and part of the display. ive found them to be especially noticeable on this and other IPS displays such as the asus transformer prime and infinity
arczangel said:
I Got It Also! Its also visible when the screen is lit, but you have to find them. Is this normal? All N4 has this? Why I can't see this on my iPad, and other touch devices?
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Because the screen technology is different? It isn't a big deal.
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the gorilla glass 2 is thinner, its normal to see that under direct sunlight,
I'm fairly certain that these dots have something to do with the IPS display in the N4.
My Asus tf700 (transformer infinity) has these same dots, which are only visible at certain angles, with high ambient light. It is also an IPS display. I remember reading somewhere about them, but I forget what the actual purpose of these dots are.
This has been discussed many times guys...a simple search will tell you it's because of the thinner display design more specifically the digitizer.
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Because they're not as super awesome?
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Completely normal, nothing to worry about. I've had this happen with some phones I had.

I Still Can See Pixels in S4

Somehow I can still see the border of font is jaggies for example white text on dark background in xda app or keyboard. I can see red and green pixel at the border of text..
It is not that sharp.
Do you guys can see it also?
I think full hd pentile is still not enough for 5inch screen to fully unsee the pixels, maybe it should be in 4.5 inch.
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No you just have super vision.... Seriously this probably the best display that you can find.
Not a single pixel watchable here! Maybe your images are really really low in graphics or you're playing Minecraft.
Regards :thumbup:
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Somehow I can still see the border of font is jaggies for example white text on dark background in xda app or keyboard. I can see rgbg pixel at the border..
It is not that sharp.
Do you guys can see it also?
I think full hd pentile is still not enough for 5inch screen to fully unsee the pixels, maybe it should be in 4.5 inch.
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Visual acuity is different for many people.
It may be that you are beyond average or you device has something wrong with it
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I wish I also had superhuman eyesight.
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Your eyesight.. Is superhuman.. I wish I have your eyesight.
X-ray vision - X-ray vision
Actually, I think you see things. The arrangement of sub-pixels of the S4 is different than rgbg.
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s4-display-diamond-pixels-199926/
Maybe you bought S3 by accident or some mockup of the real S4?
dragon135 said:
Somehow I can still see the border of font is jaggies for example white text on dark background in xda app or keyboard. I can see rgbg pixel at the border..
It is not that sharp.
Do you guys can see it also?
I think full hd pentile is still not enough for 5inch screen to fully unsee the pixels, maybe it should be in 4.5 inch.
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I think you're mind is playing tricks on you
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Yes Yes...the pixels
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i also can
but i dont always look at my screen from 10cm image quality is more than enough for me i also prefer true black instead of little more sharper image on lcd.
I have great vision, I can see a bumper sticker on a gnats ass, but I can't see any pixels on mine.
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but i dont always look at my screen from 10cm image quality is more than enough for me i also prefer true black instead of little more sharper image on lcd.
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When the phone starts up an the Samsung logo appears, I can also see some jagged curves near the alphabet "S". But with normal distance, it is not possible.
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The pixel arrangement does cause the odd artifact to appear on fonts, yes. I sometimes see green halos on the top edges of white fonts on black if i really want to look for it.
There is also a very clear row of red sub pixels at the bottom of the display. if this is what the OP means by 'the boarder' then yep its there and nope he's not just 'seeing things'. Id post an image from my SLR which shows it very clearly but i need 10 posts to link to external websites lol.
Anyway, it's there and real. But its so small that you can't see it really unless you are looking for it. So my advice to the OP is just dont worry about it And my advice to everybody else is.....get your eyes tested :laugh:
If i look closely i can also see pixels.. i guess we'll have to wait for 600+ ppi displays.
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Yes Yes...the pixels
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This is by far the funniest response to a post I've ever seen in my life. Thank you
It's just crap images, not the lack of pixels. Find a PDF document (vector graphics instead of pixels) and you won't be able to see any.
James.Miller said:
The pixel arrangement does cause the odd artifact to appear on fonts, yes. I sometimes see green halos on the top edges of white fonts on black if i really want to look for it.
There is also a very clear row of red sub pixels at the bottom of the display. if this is what the OP means by 'the boarder' then yep its there and nope he's not just 'seeing things'. Id post an image from my SLR which shows it very clearly but i need 10 posts to link to external websites lol.
Anyway, it's there and real. But its so small that you can't see it really unless you are looking for it. So my advice to the OP is just dont worry about it And my advice to everybody else is.....get your eyes tested :laugh:
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Yes, I mean there is green/red pixel around the edge of white font especially in dark background. For example in keyboard.
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In 8 cm distance you can see pixel.
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Note 5 screen discoloration issue. May be widespread

I have had my Verizon 64 GB Note 5 for about 6 days now and since day 1 I have noticed that the screen color when on a white background is not uniform. My phone appears to have a section that has a red hue to it around the left side and more of a blueish hue to the right side of the screen. It is very noticeable on anything with a white background. I seem to notice it the most when I am reading text. I have gone back to the Verizon store I got the phone from and looked at their demo model and it seems to have the same issue. I also went to my local Best Buy and looked at 3 other Note 5's and all except one of Best Buy's seemed to have the issue.
Pull up a white background on your Note 5. Do you see this? I am going to take my phone back and swap it out this weekend, But with so many that I have seen with the issue I am not confident that the new one will be any better.
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Got some pics of mine. NOTE!!!! Pictures do slightly exaggerate the issue
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What setting do you have your screen mode as? (Adaptive, basic amoled etc)
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What setting do you have your screen mode as? (Adaptive, basic amoled etc)
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I have it on adaptive but I can see it on all modes.
Most likely a defective screen, go get it warrantied. I have seen display defects for all brands.
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Most likely a defective screen, go get it warrantied. I have seen display defects for all brands.
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I wonder if a bad batch got shipped to my area? It's strange that 4/5 of the phones that I looked at had the issue. This is making me hopeful that I will get a good one when I go swap it out
Yes I have the same issue, imported phone from Singapore.
My 32gb Verizon model has this, except it's my right half of the screen that has the reddish hue. I'm planning on swapping it for a 64gb before my 14 days are up anyway, or else I'd have already returned it. It's incredibly annoying while reading text.
It's like the matrix effect. Once you've taken the blue pill you can't ignore it. I see tinting on every single amoled device I look at now.
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It's like the matrix effect. Once you've taken the blue pill you can't ignore it. I see tinting on every single amoled device I look at now.
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Ha! I have been looking at all my co workers phones and I do see uneven back lighting on almost all of them but none have 2 distinctly different colors on each side of the screen like the Note 5 does. I could handle the uneven back lighting but the 2 colors on the Note 5 make me cringe every time I look at it for more than a few seconds. My co worker's iPhone 6 plus has a fairly uneven backlight from left to right but there are no specific colors illuminated more than others so it's easy to ignore at least for me.
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Ha! I have been looking at all my co workers phones and I do see uneven back lighting on almost all of them but none have 2 distinctly different colors on each side of the screen like the Note 5 does. I could handle the uneven back lighting but the 2 colors on the Note 5 make me cringe every time I look at it for more than a few seconds. My co worker's iPhone 6 plus has a fairly uneven backlight from left to right but there are no specific colors illuminated more than others so it's easy to ignore at least for me.
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Way to go Neo! No turning back now! Hahaha.
Any pictures of what this looks like?
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I don't see any discoloration on my screen. Did I get the only good unit?
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No discoloration or uneven tones here. Perfect display. 32GB Black Sapphire
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Any pictures of what this looks like?
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I will see if I can get a picture of it but I am not sure if a camera would pick it up. It's fairly subtle. Either way it's still annoying.
Deleted since I thought I had discoloration but didn't after having a few co-workers take a look at my phone.
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Any pictures of what this looks like?
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Got some pictures... Added them to the OP
You know what's weird. I owned a Note 4 on 3 of the 4 big carriers and the AT&T one was the only one that was bearable. It seems like its not as bad on the Korean models, which seem to be exclusive to AT&T.
This is what it looks like on mine
I have the 64gb White from AT&T and I cannot see this at all on mine. Colors look fairly cool throughout, not seeing any discoloration or even uneven backlighting.
no discolouration from what i can tell. though i do notice the colours (or WB) of the panel are different than my S6e panel which is warmer in all Display Modes (at full brightness).
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