Trying to use an MHL lead - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

These phones apparently support MHL, but I can't get it to work. I've got a mini USB to HDMI lead, but don't get any output at all. How do I make it work, is it supposed to just show my screen as soon as I plug it in, or do I have to use an app? Does it have to be powered or something?

StuartTheFish said:
These phones apparently support MHL, but I can't get it to work. I've got a mini USB to HDMI lead, but don't get any output at all. How do I make it work, is it supposed to just show my screen as soon as I plug it in, or do I have to use an app? Does it have to be powered or something?
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What kind of MHL cable is it? It needs to be an 11-pin one (made for S3/Note 2/S4).

StuartTheFish said:
These phones apparently support MHL, but I can't get it to work. I've got a mini USB to HDMI lead, but don't get any output at all. How do I make it work, is it supposed to just show my screen as soon as I plug it in, or do I have to use an app? Does it have to be powered or something?
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What device are you trying to use it with? Does it itself support MHL?

I just thought any tv would display it through HDMI as an input, didn't realise the device I connected my phone to mattered. Coincidentally though it is a Samsung. And aren't mhl cables all the same then? Samsung made their own to be arkward?

Think you need mhl 2 for the s4 and for it to display 60hz

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SGS2 accessories listed on Clove

Some really interesting ones! Prices are reasonable.
http://www.clove.co.uk/accessories/samsung/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-i9100/cables-and-chargers
Unfortunately no availability till June
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1057
wow some really nice looking extras, im glad they decided to add them this time around, i believe the desktop dock shown also has an AUX output in the back to play music on large speakers, however if this is true, i dont see an AUX input on the dock, so it must stream the audio thru microusb, and then out through AUX, very interesting, but seems likely, since the implementation of MHL!
Nice find, thanks.
From what I've heard it sounds like Samsung are not supplying the MHL or USB OTG adapters in the retail box, which is a great shame and rather poor really. Can't say I'm surprised, because Samsung have tended to follow this practice with their previous flagships also.
^ Correct, MHL cable listed on Clove website as an accessory...
Let me ask this. This is an MHL port, meaning I can plug in a regular mini HDMI or mini USB(or micro, if that's what it is) like normal? Or do I need a converter cable?
On the SGS II, MHL runs over the physical microUSB interface. It can output straight to 1080p HDMI w/ audio (and charge at the same time) as well as use it as a USB host OTG device. You'll probably have to use the adapter cable to get HDMI working. If you want to charge over MHL, you'll also need an MHL-compliant TV but you can still charge normally using another cable while simultaneously outputting video.
So yes, chances are you do need some sort of adapter cable, at the very least microUSB to HDMI.
For outputting HDMI you need an MHL cable, thats all. If you want to charge and output at the same time you need a dongle (soon TVs that support charging over MHL will come out, and then the cable will handle both, in addition to letting the TV remote control the playback device).

HTC ONE OTG not supported/MHL playing up

Any info on this would be well appreciated.
Don't know if this is already covered somewhere but I can't find it. I'm well gutted about this, Just tried watching a film on HTC ONE with OTG cable and it doesn't work. I get a warning notification saying " unable to charge device, please use supported charger " Gutted. I thought this would of been covered since the one-x supported OTG when it got 4.1 update. Also, don't know if it's related but the MHL (an official HTC 1) isn't working properly either as it did on my one-x. It wil be playing fine for 20/30 seconds and then cuts off for 10 seconds then comes back on. It's does this repeatedly which makes what ever your trying to watch - unwatchable.
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It supports OTG
Haven't tried mhl, but otg works fine here.
Tried it with my memory sticks and fiio dac.
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Seem to be working now. Must of been the memory card adapter I tried, tried another one and ok now but still getting error notification " unable to charge device, please use the supported charger " Don't know what that's all about. Keyboard and mouse work fine with OTG, never tried them before.
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Definitely something wrong with MHL.just tried again with official HTC adapter and flawless on one-x, unstable on the ONE.
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Isn't the one purportedly MHL 2.0? Maybe the adapter needs to be different...
myself11 said:
Isn't the one purportedly MHL 2.0? Maybe the adapter needs to be different...
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I just tried MHL on my One using the official HTC M490 adapter (NOT the M500 which I think won't work). I have no problems at all with MHL. It is stable. I don't know what difference MHL 2.0 makes, but I did notice that the phone seems to be capable of outputting something different to MHL out, vs what is on the phone screen.
For example, and I have no idea why, I seem to have a free copy of Thor on the phone under the HTC Watch application (freebie?). I found that when I choose Thor as the film, the phone screen is showing a synopsis, while the TV is showing a still frame from the movie. However, when actually playing the film, both are showing the same thing. Nevertheless it is a good indication that dual screen gaming applications may be possible for example.
Also tried the OTG using a Samsung usb adapter. No problems functionally but I can confirm the misleading error message about not being able to charge the phone. No problems accessing the USB storage though and Gallery automatically will find pictures on an externally mounted SD card.
HTC M500 adapter has 12 pins and was the adapter for HTC tablets (Flyer and Jetstream). The majority of connectors use 5 pins, except Samsung (SIII and Note 2) that uses 11 pin, which allows for MHL and USB OTG simultaneously.
Regarding MHL 2.0, it has the ability to pass 1080p video at 60Hz (up from 30Hz of MHL 1st generation) and charge up to twice as fast. Samsung SIV has it, but I haven't find anything official that shows HTC One also has it, or for the need of a different adapter.
All the MHL adaptors i've seen (mine included- Cablesson) have a micro USB slot so you plug in your charger* to that, then the device to your phone, and it charges as it outputs.
Are you all doing that, or trying to output with no charger attached.
*Mains charger
techguyone said:
All the MHL adaptors i've seen (mine included- Cablesson) have a micro USB slot so you plug in your charger* to that, then the device to your phone, and it charges as it outputs.
Are you all doing that, or trying to output with no charger attached.
*Mains charger
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I have no problems but to confirm the adapter won't even start-up if you don't connect the charger...it is totally ignored. I am assuming the original poster either has a bad USB/MHL port on the phone, or the adapter is slightly out of tolerance with its connections hence working on some phones and not others.
I've bought an adapter on ebay for my One X. Besides ths usb charging port having issues, it messed my One X usb port - it only worked with the adapter pluged in. I had to reset One X. So, mhl adapters can be really a mess.
myself11 said:
I've bought an adapter on ebay for my One X. Besides ths usb charging port having issues, it messed my One X usb port - it only worked with the adapter plugged in. I had to reset One X. So, mhl adapters can be really a mess.
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First day with phone today so briefly trying lots of things, I had pre-bought cheap ebay MHL adaptor and tried it with a few youtube videos seems to work OK (confirm you must have a charger micro-usb MHL).
It did give about 20 secs of white snow interference at start almost as though it was tuning in channel but steady after that.
More investigations to follow I think.
silas184 said:
First day with phone today so briefly trying lots of things, I had pre-bought cheap ebay MHL adaptor and tried it with a few youtube videos seems to work OK (confirm you must have a charger micro-usb MHL).
It did give about 20 secs of white snow interference at start almost as though it was tuning in channel but steady after that.
More investigations to follow I think.
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How did you get on after more tests?
can you link me to the one you purchased if all worked fine please
if anyone else has a 100% working MHL to HDMI can you post which one and where to purchase.
brainimpact said:
How did you get on after more tests?
can you link me to the one you purchased if all worked fine please
if anyone else has a 100% working MHL to HDMI can you post which one and where to purchase.
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Sucks that I don't have mine yet. I have two different MHL adapters I could try.
I just experienced the original "HTC AC M490" MHL-Adpater with my HTC One (Stock ROM).
It was working straightaway, but the device display as well as the TV screen where a little bit slow and choppy.
Is it possible to change some settings (like resolution or frame rate) to improve the performance?
THX
Edit: Is it MHL 2.0 ? (Regarding to this thread it seems to be only MHL 1.0)?
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Isn't the one purportedly MHL 2.0? Maybe the adapter needs to be different...
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No, it isn't.
The S4 will be the first MHL 2.0 spec device.
Is there any way to set the output resolution manually to 720p?
night4awk said:
I just experienced the original "HTC AC M490" MHL-Adpater with my HTC One (Stock ROM).
It was working straightaway, but the device display as well as the TV screen where a little bit slow and choppy.
Is it possible to change some settings (like resolution or frame rate) to improve the performance?
THX
Edit: Is it MHL 2.0 ? (Regarding to this thread it seems to be only MHL 1.0)?
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With a custom kernel you can do this. Flar2 did this for the one XL, I see he's starting to migrate over here.
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Yes obviously plugged the charger in aswell with the MHL. The picture is perfect. It just play's for 20/30 seconds then cuts out for a couple and just keeps doing that. Even though the OTG works I still get the error triangle in the notification bar, which I don't on my ONE-X, but I can put up with that.
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Imito MX2 Monitor Hookup

Hi Guys,
I have an Imito MX2 and have been trying to hook it up to my monitor that has an HDMI input, but it doesn't "boot" up (Screen doesn't display anything). I have played with the monitor settings and still nothing. Can anyone help me with this? I know people have said they were able to hook it to a monitor but I can't figure it out. Thanks in advance!
Kev
kevion4 said:
Hi Guys,
I have an Imito MX2 and have been trying to hook it up to my monitor that has an HDMI input, but it doesn't "boot" up (Screen doesn't display anything). I have played with the monitor settings and still nothing. Can anyone help me with this? I know people have said they were able to hook it to a monitor but I can't figure it out. Thanks in advance!
Kev
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your tv has probably multiple hdmi ports, you need to have a close look at your remote control for a button that switches between all ports (like hdmi1, hdmi2, vga,....)
try all hdmi ports
if this doesn't work, make sure your stick is well connected to the hdmi port, if yes, make sure also that the power usb cable is connected
when the stick is on, you'd normally see a led light on it
if still not working, contact the person/website you got this stick from.
good luck
hamdimo said:
your tv has probably multiple hdmi ports, you need to have a close look at your remote control for a button that switches between all ports (like hdmi1, hdmi2, vga,....)
try all hdmi ports
if this doesn't work, make sure your stick is well connected to the hdmi port, if yes, make sure also that the power usb cable is connected
when the stick is on, you'd normally see a led light on it
if still not working, contact the person/website you got this stick from.
good luck
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Thanks For your Help, but I forgot to clarify a problem. The monitor I'm using isn't a TV (It's a computer monitor). Before I purchased the Imito, I've read that people were able to get it displaying on their monitor. The second thing is, the monitor doesn't have an HDMI in Port, instead it has a Display port. I am using a Female HDMI to Male Display Port and that doesn't seem to work. Maybe I'm stupid, but, shouldn't that work? Thanks in advance again!

[Q] Hook up Multiple USB devices

Hi all,
I've just ordered this gorgeous phone and am waiting for it to be delivered. In the meantime I've been wondering given that it's capable of HDMI output and serve as USB host whether it is possible of it doing both at the same time, if say I hooked up the HDMI output along with other usb devices, like a USB drive and a keyboard via a usb HUB. I would be practically creating a bespoke docking station of sorts..
I know it's pushing the technology a little... and there are other alternatives to USB devices (NAS drives, wireless mouse/keyboards...), but my question is more about what the device is capable of.
Thanks.
Update:
So far I've successfully managed to plug in an old USB hub via a cheap micro-usb to USB adapter bought off e-bay. From there I hooked up a USB keyboard, Mouse, pen drive and also USB speakers.
I'm amazed it actually managed to power all of these devices without any problems (imagine battery drain is massive given that the usb hub is unpowered).
I would like to know if anyone has tried hooking up HDMI output while the USB is hosting other devices. Has anyone tried this already? I've searched everywhere and can't seem to find a definitive answer to my question.
As a side note, does anyone know of a docking station for the G2, similar to what you get with laptops?
Did you figure out the answer to this?
AlexOB1 said:
Did you figure out the answer to this?
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No, I have not yet tried this out. I had bought an HDMI cable/device thing but never got it to work on my TV.. apparently it had something to do with the technology that the phone uses for HDMI not being compatible with older Samsung TVs.
Would be great if anyone else has tried this out could post here, whatever the outcome

[Q] MHL Adapter with OTG

Hey guys,
I received today my MHL adpater
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171436891054?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
The signal to the TV is working fine.
My problem is when I'm connecting devices to the USB host port, there is a power over there but my phone not responding, while those devices are working with a simple OTG cable.
Some help over here?
orenzah said:
Hey guys,
I received today my MHL adpater
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171436891054?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
The signal to the TV is working fine.
My problem is when I'm connecting devices to the USB host port, there is a power over there but my phone not responding, while those devices are working with a simple OTG cable.
Some help over here?
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I have been looking for the same thing, an MHL - OTG - charging dock/adapter/dongle, I have not found anything that people report as working reliably on the S5 (I am also looking for one to work with a Note 10.1 2014).
Have you tried to connect a power supply on the micrUSB port? I have a MHL adapter and it needs external power.
gduong128 said:
Have you tried to connect a power supply on the micrUSB port? I have a MHL adapter and it needs external power.
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Yes, I did.
I even tried connecting a USB hub and I saw there is a power from the USB Host.
Please give me a link for what you're using a direct link to eBay item.
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There is a chance that will work?
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=271442517207&globalID=EBAY-DE&alt=web
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I'm not using a OTG MHL, just plain MHL adapter like this:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2M-MHL-Micro...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3a9580fffb
gduong128 said:
I'm not using a OTG MHL, just plain MHL adapter like this:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2M-MHL-Micro...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3a9580fffb
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The HDMI link is working for me.
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I was under the impression you can either use mhl or otg. Not both at the same time. You tried just using the thumb drive by itself without the hdmi plugged in?
anyone had luck finding an adapter allowing you to use hdmi alongside otg?
anyone found an adapter than can do hdmi and usb host at the same time??? there seem to have plenty for s4 but nothing for s5?? although s5 is using a newer and more capable mhl if i am not wrong
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251604742937?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
i received this one
it works well at same time as otg and hdmi
i am just not satisfied with the quality of the hdmi output.
Purplys said:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251604742937?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
i received this one
it works well at same time as otg and hdmi
i am just not satisfied with the quality of the hdmi output.
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thx for the reply..what's wrong with the hdmi output? Isn't the output same as a standalone hdmi mhl apdater?
yeahman45 said:
thx for the reply..what's wrong with the hdmi output? Isn't the output same as a standalone hdmi mhl apdater?
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i meant the image quality,to just watch and control your device its ok,to watch a 720p movie its not ok,video will be blur sometimes and it will be a little delay at sound.
few days ago i used a friends standalone hdmi adapter was performing amazing even at 1080p.
it is very nice thank you very much
Purplys said:
i meant the image quality,to just watch and control your device its ok,to watch a 720p movie its not ok,video will be blur sometimes and it will be a little delay at sound.
few days ago i used a friends standalone hdmi adapter was performing amazing even at 1080p.
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I got that hdmi connection kit and it works great with my S3 doing hdmi 1080p and otg simultaneous + charging. But with my S5 it will only do hdmi 720p or otg not both. Image quality is poor on the monitor but great on the HD TV.
Maybe "Display Link" is the way to go to get wired screen mirroring and otg at the same time on the S5?

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