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Is the official leaked ICS ROM better then Thors current ICS ROM? Because I am running Thor's currently, and was wondering if its worth to update to the official leaked ICS ROM. I don't care much about features and stuff, all I need is something that functions good, and how its supposed to run.
I'm running FLEXREAPER and its been amazing so far. I also came from running Thor's rom, but I'm extremely happy with what civato has accomplished so far.
Depends on which of the brocken versions you want to use. None have full function. Some are more buggy then others. None use proper resolution, nor the new Tegra 2 optimizations, nor the addtional HDMI fuctions.
Probably best to wait for the upcoming offcial build, which will include all the optimizaitions, resoultion changes, dual layer dashboard, Acer wheel, then root it and go from there.
It depends on your level of technical ability.
I would recommend:
Reading through the links below
Install RA via Acer Recovery Installer (use custom image option)
Flash Stock, then flash CWM version via RA Recovery (all in one step, losing recovery)
Install unlocked bootloader+custom recovery
Advantages:
Keep root
Unlock bootloader
Keep recovery
Remount /system rw (requires terminal app)
Remove bloat manually
Camera works
No sleep of death
Basically stock
I'm really pleased with my A500 right now, so this is what I'm running.
jakob95 said:
Is the official leaked ICS ROM better then Thors current ICS ROM? Because I am running Thor's currently, and was wondering if its worth to update to the official leaked ICS ROM. I don't care much about features and stuff, all I need is something that functions good, and how its supposed to run.
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How do you measure better?
I am running flexrom and it is smooth. You can always just make a nandroid and see how the other builds run. I haven't run Thors rom, so I can't give you a comparison.
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jm77 said:
Advantages:
Not violate GPL blatantly
Avoid burning in hell and bad karma for violating GPL
I'm really pleased with my A500 right now, so this is what I'm running.
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Is it necessary to be that aggressive to someone who is clearly an end-user? Why not state that "all of the roms released here benefited from an open collaborative environment from developers. This is why things like the GPL are important, because everyone can benefit by sharing knowledge that results in a quick resolution to issues that arise."
There is no need to attack people like a zealot
Psichi said:
Is it necessary to be that aggressive to someone who is clearly an end-user? Why not state that "all of the roms released here benefited from an open collaborative environment from developers. This is why things like the GPL are important, because everyone can benefit by sharing knowledge that results in a quick resolution to issues that arise."
There is no need to attack people like a zealot
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Just wanted to emphasize this point... nice
diiorio said:
Depends on which of the brocken versions you want to use. None have full function. Some are more buggy then others. None use proper resolution, nor the new Tegra 2 optimizations, nor the addtional HDMI fuctions.
Probably best to wait for the upcoming offcial build, which will include all the optimizaitions, resoultion changes, dual layer dashboard, Acer wheel, then root it and go from there.
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This sounds like a troll post.
None use proper resolution? Is that a joke?
None have full function?
Flexreaper R4 is running well for me. No complaints. Seems just as functional as Honeycomb to me since full root and /system write permissions.
ATM the ROMs based on the Acer leak are by far the best, as they have practically everything working (contraty to what some other poster thinks). There are some small omissions (like face unlock) and probably a few bugs that didn't yet show up, but other than that they are surprisingly fast and stable (I'm using FLEXREAPER R4, too).
As to violating GPL... well, in the end probably both do, but in thors case it's a good bit worse as he has a choice while vache (and those building on his leak) haven't.
Came from Thor's as well. I then went to Lightspeed, which ran well but is really stripped down. If you want a pretty bare-bones ROM, this is good for that. I am now on Taboonay, which has seemed every bit as fast and smooth, yet also includes wallpapers, extra widgets, etc. I haven't tried Flexreaper so I can't speak of that one. Both I have tried were smoother than Thor's IMO.
diiorio said:
Depends on which of the brocken versions you want to use. None have full function. Some are more buggy then others. None use proper resolution, nor the new Tegra 2 optimizations, nor the addtional HDMI fuctions.
Probably best to wait for the upcoming offcial build, which will include all the optimizaitions, resoultion changes, dual layer dashboard, Acer wheel, then root it and go from there.
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I'm waiting for a full version...
Probably the safest thing to do.
SugarCoatedAngel said:
I'm waiting for a full version...
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Gee, what a helpful post we have here...
Good for you.
haag498 said:
Probably the safest thing to do.
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Another extremely helpful post!
Other than Face unlock and the Acer ring, the leak is a full version. (vache has the Acer ring in his Rom. Not sure if they have face unlock working yet.)
My advice to anyone who is curious, do a backup and try it for yourself. If you don't like it restore your backup.
I'm running Lightspeed Beta5 now and so far it's running great. As mentioned before it is pretty barebones but if that's your preference it works well.
If you want extra Acer system apps , go here and pick the "You want the extra Acer system apps" , you can use them on all the ICS roms that are based on the Leaked rom.
Try them and USE YOUR Own Judgement.is best .
THere is only one real piece of advice that can be giving to Op..
You do know how to flash a rom. You do know how to read a thread.. My best Sis to read the User post in each rom Thread. (Something i have done). Then make a Decision based on your Opinion of what you have read. And flash the rom that best suits you. If you do not like that flash another. Just remeber to do a nand backup between each and you can try them all .Try them until you are satisfied with the rom you choose.
THE ANSWER IS There is no answer. Do Not Try to make it a Competition between the roms. They are all great.. ALL OF THE Development in the roms have been done by people taking time out of there life to make them available for all.. Respect that. Follow the flashing INstructions . be careful and have fun..
if you want the BEST User experience. With the least bugs. go back to 3.2.1 Fully stock..
thanks for listening to my two Pennies. oh well maybe 3 or 4..
Now im Going to take a Bath.
Can I update to the stock ICS ROM straight from Thors ICS? Like put the update.zip into the SD card, and press power and volume up for it to automatically update? Or that won't work?
jakob95 said:
Can I update to the stock ICS ROM straight from Thors ICS? Like put the update.zip into the SD card, and press power and volume up for it to automatically update? Or that won't work?
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Scroll up a few post in this thread.
YES. Thou I suggest you do more research.
Good luck
jakob95 said:
Can I update to the stock ICS ROM straight from Thors ICS? Like put the update.zip into the SD card, and press power and volume up for it to automatically update? Or that won't work?
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Yes it works, but I assume you have cwm recovery installed so if you don't want to loose cwm, don't flash Acer's stock update.zip. I suggest Lightspeed ICS over thors ics. At least it worked fine for me. Clear cache & dalvik before. Don't forget to backup just in case.
lowsum said:
Yes it works, but I assume you have cwm recovery installed so if you don't want to loose cwm, don't flash Acer's stock update.zip. I suggest Lightspeed ICS over thors ics. At least it worked fine for me. Clear cache & dalvik before. Don't forget to backup just in case.
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But if I do flash Acer's stock update.zip will it work? Couldn't I just reroot after with the tool?
battery life
dman918 said:
Came from Thor's as well. I then went to Lightspeed, which ran well but is really stripped down. If you want a pretty bare-bones ROM, this is good for that. I am now on Taboonay, which has seemed every bit as fast and smooth, yet also includes wallpapers, extra widgets, etc. I haven't tried Flexreaper so I can't speak of that one. Both I have tried were smoother than Thor's IMO.
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How is battery life compared to v96?
Hey guys, so I'm kinda new at doing custom roms and kernels and I'm super eager to learn everything. I just unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone succesfully yesterday. But of course, rooting the nexus s is a must to install custom roms.
I want to know what you guys think are GOOD and STABLE ROMS where everything seems to function.
I was looking at the nexusshacks website and they have the AOKP kang jellybean ROM but I'm hearing from a bit of people that not everything works and it freezes at the boot screen. also there's a problem that apparently you cant see your gallery and music, and also data doesnt work on it.... I just want something that works good and is stable and gives me good battery life!
Thanks for your time
MRsf27 said:
Hey guys, so I'm kinda new at doing custom roms and kernels and I'm super eager to learn everything. I just unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone succesfully yesterday. But of course, rooting the nexus s is a must to install custom roms.
I want to know what you guys think are GOOD and STABLE ROMS where everything seems to function.
I was looking at the nexusshacks website and they have the AOKP kang jellybean ROM but I'm hearing from a bit of people that not everything works and it freezes at the boot screen. also there's a problem that apparently you cant see your gallery and music, and also data doesnt work on it.... I just want something that works good and is stable and gives me good battery life!
Thanks for your time
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The best thing about these ROM is you can try them for yourself and see if it work for you.
A lot of people don't follow the instruction and complain all the time, there are people enjoying the ROM and you will never hear from them. My respect to the developers who do great work, because of them I have the latest and best android experience ever, for the last two years I have no need to upgrade my phone.
Try them all.
Robert
kwabby said:
The best thing about these ROM is you can try them for yourself and see if it work for you.
A lot of people don't follow the instruction and complain all the time, there are people enjoying the ROM and you will never hear from them. My respect to the developers who do great work, because of them I have the latest and best android experience ever, for the last two years I have no need to upgrade my phone.
Try them all.
Robert
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Cool, thanks alot for the advice, I'd still like to know what other ROMs are out there tho so that I can try them all out one day
Is there a good kernel? I'm not too educated on kernels lol
Hi
Rooting isn't a must for installing custom roms you can always use fastboot tool to install custom recovery
I've flashed one million custom roms to my i9023. And what I learned from it is flashing most of them was just a waste of time. However, if I hadn't done this, I wouldn't have known what to choose now. Gingbread roms are really fast and responsive. However they are not so smooth when it comes to scrolling. Also gingerbread roms lack a lot of nice features that come in later builds.
ICS was a misunderstanding for me. It was slow, laggy but the functionality was better than gingerbread. I was ready to sell my nexus because of that disappointment.
Finally Jelly Bean came along. And that, my friend is something different. Project butter makes the phone so smooth, scrolling is superb, animations and applications seems so smooth now. Speed of gingerbread(almost) and looks and functionality of ics
You can try every rom you can. You're gonna waste a lot of time just on flashing restoring, flashing and restoring and so on. You might even get frustrated. Or you can try this and simply start liking your phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854366
This is pretty stock, just the way I like it. It's freaking smooth, it hardly ever lags, perfect to bring you some smile from using your nexus most of other roms always come up with some bug or lack of some feature that works on stock rom. The rom I mentioned simply works. Trust me and install this one and you won't regret
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nexususer1 said:
Hi
Rooting isn't a must for installing custom roms you can always use fastboot tool to install custom recovery
I've flashed one million custom roms to my i9023. And what I learned from it is flashing most of them was just a waste of time. However, if I hadn't done this, I wouldn't have known what to choose now. Gingbread roms are really fast and responsive. However they are not so smooth when it comes to scrolling. Also gingerbread roms lack a lot of nice features that come in later builds.
ICS was a misunderstanding for me. It was slow, laggy but the functionality was better than gingerbread. I was ready to sell my nexus because of that disappointment.
Finally Jelly Bean came along. And that, my friend is something different. Project butter makes the phone so smooth, scrolling is superb, animations and applications seems so smooth now. Speed of gingerbread(almost) and looks and functionality of ics
You can try every rom you can. You're gonna waste a lot of time just on flashing restoring, flashing and restoring and so on. You might even get frustrated. Or you can try this and simply start liking your phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854366
This is pretty stock, just the way I like it. It's freaking smooth, it hardly ever lags, perfect to bring you some smile from using your nexus most of other roms always come up with some bug or lack of some feature that works on stock rom. The rom I mentioned simply works. Trust me and install this one and you won't regret
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cool thanks man... ONE question before I begin... Im assuming the kernel is already in the ROM .zip file here right? Now if the kernel is seperate do you just add into the SD card like adding a ROM to the sd card? do you have to do anything under recovery?
Kernel is included. Just install this rom from the recovery kernels are always in a zip file, you install them like you install a rom.
But this time you don't have to even think about the kernel, because it's already built into whole rom zip file
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the pic & music issue is probably related to the bad Rom manager app update that put .nomedia files where they didn't belong.
I always run a new/updated Rom with its baked in kernel for a day or two to see how it does before flashing a separate kernel, unless I have major issues related to the baked in kernel. Not all devices act the same, even on the exact same setup.
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MRsf27 said:
Hey guys, so I'm kinda new at doing custom roms and kernels and I'm super eager to learn everything. I just unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone succesfully yesterday. But of course, rooting the nexus s is a must to install custom roms.
I want to know what you guys think are GOOD and STABLE ROMS where everything seems to function.
I was looking at the nexusshacks website and they have the AOKP kang jellybean ROM but I'm hearing from a bit of people that not everything works and it freezes at the boot screen. also there's a problem that apparently you cant see your gallery and music, and also data doesnt work on it.... I just want something that works good and is stable and gives me good battery life!
Thanks for your time
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If you're new to the whole flashing game with the android devices id say start with Flashing Custom Kernels. So you can get the the feel for what just the kernel can do for your phone. There's a couple well named ones that you might hear a lot about like the Matr1x Kernel, GLaDOS Kernel, Thalamus Kernel. For the most part a few of them have the same stuff but certain Kernels run faster or smoother. Once you get the hang of that then move to Custom ROMS. As everyone says you kinda have to try out Everything for yourself as 2 people can have 2 completely different experiences with flashing. Essentially though, the Names that you see a lot are typically the most liked ROMS and Kernels for there Features and Stability.
Happy Flashing
I think its the other way around due to fact that I would not recommend flashing a kernel over stock ota without backing up first. Reason for this is that if you want to get an ota update with the stock ROM it won't work if the kernel is different from the one Google provides (experienced this problem while trying to flash a completely stock Google provided rom). So I would first flash a ROM and test it, trying as many features and see if that's what I like and then start experimenting with different kernels as most might not be stable for your particular phone. I am a vanilla Android type of person nonetheless.
Note: the rom a developer chooses are most likely the ones that he thinks are the most stable so in theory you should not run into any problem with it.
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Hey guys i really appreciate the advise. Just to let you all know, I flashed AOKP kang ROM and it's so smooth and quick. I also flashed a matrix kernel v.22 (believe its the cfc version). However, I was really hoping to overclock my cpu a little to get some better gaming performance. I'm looking everything under the ROM settings and the actual phone settings to see if there's anything to change for the cpu.
How do I overclock the cpu??? I know there's customizable roms where you can overclock the cpu for games then tone it down for normal usage and what not; that's really what I wanted.
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Hey guys i really appreciate the advise. Just to let you all know, I flashed AOKP kang ROM and it's so smooth and quick. I also flashed a matrix kernel v.22 (believe its the cfc version). However, I was really hoping to overclock my cpu a little to get some better gaming performance. I'm looking everything under the ROM settings and the actual phone settings to see if there's anything to change for the cpu.
How do I overclock the cpu??? I know there's customizable roms where you can overclock the cpu for games then tone it down for normal usage and what not; that's really what I wanted.
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I use a an APP called "NSTools" or "SetCPU"
I'm order to oc, you must be using a kernel that supports oc. The matr1x 22.5 (his jb version) doesn't support oc, but he should have a new version it soon. I can't say if it can be overclocked though.
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Hey thanks for the info... I was just be wondering if you know of any kernels that would go with aokp kang that I can over clock?
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OK wow I just installed my previous apps and now the phone is slow and buggy as hell.. must've rebooted itself at least 10 Tims in then last hour while I using it
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good question.. personally I use codename (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839249) with air kernel(that supports oc, even if I set max cpu 1000 as default).. really fast, no lags with good battery life and everything seems work great. I've tried a lot of roms and a lot of them are really good (I like to change a lot) and in my opinion you have to try a lot of them and chose your favourite
p.s.every time you flash a rom or kernel is better to make a backup(and then a wipe), so if something went wrong you can restore the phone as it was before.. sometimes kernel is not included in rom, you have to check it in phone informations.
I hope this was what you needed
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good question.. personally I use codename (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839249) with air kernel(that supports oc, even if I set max cpu 1000 as default).. really fast, no lags with good battery life and everything seems work great. I've tried a lot of roms and a lot of them are really good (I like to change a lot) and in my opinion you have to try a lot of them and chose your favourite
p.s.every time you flash a rom or kernel is better to make a backup(and then a wipe), so if something went wrong you can restore the phone as it was before.. sometimes kernel is not included in rom, you have to check it in phone informations.
I hope this was what you needed
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well i'll tell you right now, AOKP kang is not for me. Keeps crashing, almost all ****ing day. Its rebooted itself atleast 10 times within the last 10 mins. i click something and it freezes and crashes and reboots... ts ****ing ridiculous... I'm gonna go to codename
MRsf27 said:
well i'll tell you right now, AOKP kang is not for me. Keeps crashing, almost all ****ing day. Its rebooted itself atleast 10 times within the last 10 mins. i click something and it freezes and crashes and reboots... ts ****ing ridiculous... I'm gonna go to codename
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ahahah ok thanks for the information you saved my time
aww I forgot a thing.. usually results are different for different models. I have i9023 but I think it's good even in other models
let me know your opinion about it
serafo said:
ahahah ok thanks for the information you saved my time
aww I forgot a thing.. usually results are different for different models. I have i9023 but I think it's good even in other models
let me know your opinion about it
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Hey I actually checked out that codename jellybean thread you showed me... I clicked on the link and their zip is 3.1.0 and i have 3.3.2 downloaded on my computer.... I got the file from nexusshacks.com - am i missing something? Also, Im not sure if there's a kernal that comes with it, so i was wondering if there is any kernels and if there is, do you have a link?:cyclops:
EDIT: I'm going to have to apologize to AOKP. I think the ROM i was running on my phone was a buggy ROM, the unstable one before BUILD 1. I didnt realize this until I watched a video on nexusshacks.com.. but either way i flashed codename jellybean
MRsf27 said:
Hey I actually checked out that codename jellybean thread you showed me... I clicked on the link and their zip is 3.1.0 and i have 3.3.2 downloaded on my computer.... I got the file from nexusshacks.com - am i missing something? Also, Im not sure if there's a kernal that comes with it, so i was wondering if there is any kernels and if there is, do you have a link?:cyclops:
EDIT: I'm going to have to apologize to AOKP. I think the ROM i was running on my phone was a buggy ROM, the unstable one before BUILD 1. I didnt realize this until I watched a video on nexusshacks.com.. but either way i flashed codename jellybean
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I gave you the link with 3.3.2.. even because it's the same ad 3.3.0 but updated:laugh:
kernel is not included in that rom.. I use air kernel, which has everything you asked for (use nstools to control it). this is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469842
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I gave you the link with 3.3.2.. even because it's the same ad 3.3.0 but updated:laugh:
kernel is not included in that rom.. I use air kernel, which has everything you asked for (use nstools to control it). this is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469842
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hey, I just flashed codename and air kernel (no modifications) and i just downloaded NStools. It came as an apk. file, I was just wondering what to do with this? do i just throw it into my SD card?
Heya, everybody.
I'd like to know if you guys could recommend a good kernel for undervolting and overclocking the Nexus 7. (I'm only looking into very mild overclocking, I don't want worse battery life)
But here's the main thing: I'm wondering about how you'd best go about updating your tablet after flashing a custom kernel. Will I be able to take OTA updates? Am I forced to flash new ROMs every update?
I'd just like the most simple way of updating my OS while being able to overclock and undervolt my Nexus 7. (OTA updates would be the most simple, right? If possible ofc)
I've got a Nexus 7 32GB. Android 4.2.1, IC 3568A-ME370T, Model ME370T, Build JOP40D
there aren't many kernels so quick search through android/original sections 1st pages you can find information about everything you need. i would suggest m-kernel or omega most stable (on my device) and with features you seek, although OC is kinda pointless IMHO if you are not going to benchmark it and given how scores/real world perfomance show well...it's pointless
i think you can't easily just update rom and keep kernel, but it's not much work, download newer version of the rom flash it, flash kernel, boot and resume... 5mins tops.
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there aren't many kernels so quick search through android/original sections 1st pages you can find information about everything you need. i would suggest m-kernel or omega most stable (on my device) and with features you seek
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Okay, I'll have a look at them. Thanks.
OC is kinda pointless IMHO if you are not going to benchmark it and given how scores/real world perfomance show well...it's pointless
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Well, even if I'm only getting a 5% increase in performance or battery life I still consider it worth it. It's a rather simple upgrade that will last for years (I plan on taking good care of my device )
i think you can't easily just update rom and keep kernel, but it's not much work, download newer version of the rom flash it, flash kernel, boot and resume... 5mins tops.
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Wait, so you can update Kernel and ROM separately?
Am I correct in assuming that most ROMs (including stock) come with a Kernel that will replace whatever Kernel I have?
I am using trinity kernel alpha 4 version along with cm 10.1 ROM. Can over clock to 1.7 GHz with this kernel. Downloaded trinity tool box also. You can under clock, over clock and set voltages along with some kernel tweaks. Has worked flawlessly so far. I also downloaded and installed cyan delta app. It will flash the delta file of each nightly you want and also flash kernel all in one shot. (Cyan Delta will only work with CyanogenMod ROMs.)
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kevk60 said:
I am using trinity kernel alpha 4 version along with cm 10.1 ROM. Can over clock to 1.7 GHz with this kernel. Downloaded trinity tool box also. You can under clock, over clock and set voltages along with some kernel tweaks. Has worked flawlessly so far. I also downloaded and installed cyan delta app. It will flash the delta file of each nightly you want and also flash kernel all in one shot. (Cyan Delta will only work with CyanogenMod ROMs.)
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I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
I'll probably use Franco if possible, cuz amazing battery life. I noticed that my Nexus 7 only lasts like 5hours when gaming with it(stock clocks). That's not good enough for me! :S
If it doesn't work I'll probably go for Omega or M-Kernel. (or AOKP stock kernel)
I'll probably go for Paranoid Android 3.0 with the Franco kernel. I've read that they're compatible.
Updating to newer versions might be a bit of a pain, but the cool functions are probably worth it :3
You don't need to update every time a new version of a ROM or Kernel comes out, you know. If it's setup and working perfectly, the best thing to do would be to enjoy your tablet.
OTA updates do a lot of validation checks before they begin; in fact, they perform a checksum on every file targeted for a patch update.
It is quite common (not always, but common) for the kernel or ramdisk to be modified during an OTA update - so this means a high likelihood that an OTA update will not succeed on a device with a custom kernel.
There are lots of ways to do what you want, though; two basic strategies would be:
- From a backup, restore only the (stock) boot partition. Apply the OTA, and then restore a backup of your OC kernel/boot partition.
- Using Titanium Backup (or Carbon), back up your apps & data. Restore a pure stock backup, and take the OTA update on that. Make a Nandroid Backup of this. Flash the replacement kernel & a root kit. Boot and restore your apps. (This method is more labor intensive).
Note the frequent mention of full (nandroid) backups in the above. Backups are a good thing to have; make them early and often.
Anyway, there you go - two methods for the price of zero.
I prefer PA3.0 & Motley Kernel
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I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
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I'll probably go for Paranoid Android 3.0 with the Franco kernel. I've read that they're compatible.
Updating to newer versions might be a bit of a pain, but the cool functions are probably worth it :3
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I use PA3.0 with Motley Kernel and it works like a champ. There are stretches where I get 2-3 days of battery life (but I am paranoid and have everything disabled when I don't use it, and brightness down to ~15%). The link you provided though is a good resource.
--dchriste
Searz said:
I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889571
I'll probably use Franco if possible, cuz amazing battery life. I noticed that my Nexus 7 only lasts like 5hours when gaming with it(stock clocks). That's not good enough for me! :S
If it doesn't work I'll probably go for Omega or M-Kernel. (or AOKP stock kernel)
I'll probably go for Paranoid Android 3.0 with the Franco kernel. I've read that they're compatible.
Updating to newer versions might be a bit of a pain, but the cool functions are probably worth it :3
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Well don't expect major improvement in battery life while gaming, maybe if you down clock CPU for less demanding games, if you run demanding 3d games like Horn you will drain battery fast. Kernels change from version to version, performance and battery wise, so try different versions from same Dev. When it comes to games the way tegra 3 is designed you will not see much of benefit if any from oc cpu. Just look at the latest m36 kernel, your n7 will basically become dual core device with immeasurable performance loss. All I want to say don't expect wonders. If you are after battery life I would suggest you to look into other less bloated ROMs, like code fire, dirtybox, rasbean jelly. Paranoid is great in some aspects but I found less popular roms are easier on the battery, but not by a large margin.
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I would have to agree. You do not have to update your rom with every nightly or your kernel with every version. If your tab is working fine, use it for what you got it for. Sorta like Murphy's law. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. (Read the changelogs)
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ynrozturk said:
You don't need to update every time a new version of a ROM or Kernel comes out, you know. If it's setup and working perfectly, the best thing to do would be to enjoy your tablet.
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kevk60 said:
I would have to agree. You do not have to update your rom with every nightly or your kernel with every version. If your tab is working fine, use it for what you got it for. Sorta like Murphy's law. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. (Read the changelogs)
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Yea, I won't be reflashing things unless there's new features that I really want.
dchriste90 said:
I use PA3.0 with Motley Kernel and it works like a champ. There are stretches where I get 2-3 days of battery life (but I am paranoid and have everything disabled when I don't use it, and brightness down to ~15%). The link you provided though is a good resource.
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Motley is apparently one of the "worst" kernels when it comes to optimization and battery life. The best thing about it is probably the features, but I don't really need any of them, so I probably won't be using that one
bftb0 said:
OTA updates do a lot of validation checks before they begin; in fact, they perform a checksum on every file targeted for a patch update.
It is quite common (not always, but common) for the kernel or ramdisk to be modified during an OTA update - so this means a high likelihood that an OTA update will not succeed on a device with a custom kernel.
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Yea, that seems to be the case from what I've read. But flashing the stock kernel would make it work fine, right?
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- From a backup, restore only the (stock) boot partition. Apply the OTA, and then restore a backup of your OC kernel/boot partition.
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This seems like it has a possibility of going wrong. I think I'll go with the second method.
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- Using Titanium Backup (or Carbon), back up your apps & data. Restore a pure stock backup, and take the OTA update on that. Make a Nandroid Backup of this. Flash the replacement kernel & a root kit. Boot and restore your apps. (This method is more labor intensive).
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This method is actually not that "labor intensive". As long as you've got Ti Backup Pro it's very easy to do this, you just gotta wait a while things backup/restore.
berkos said:
Well don't expect major improvement in battery life while gaming, maybe if you down clock CPU for less demanding games, if you run demanding 3d games like Horn you will drain battery fast.
If you are after battery life I would suggest you to look into other less bloated ROMs, like code fire, dirtybox, rasbean jelly. Paranoid is great in some aspects but I found less popular roms are easier on the battery, but not by a large margin.
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Yea, I realize now that battery life when gaming probably won't change much.
Battery life is very important to me, but if it comes at the expense of features then the difference has to be noticeable.
How has your experience been? (compare the ROMs you've used)
Well i'd like to know which are the differences between those roms. I just would like to know if with any of these i'll get same or better battery life than with stock 4.2.2 (which is the one im right now) and if games will run same or better (i don't mind if i have to change kernel, but i'd prefer to not have to do many tweaks).
Also, what would I win coming from stock to any of these apart of the customization (apparel)? Thanks.
Opinions are welcome, I don't want to start a war between which is better, just to know which will fit my requirements. Also, please don't tell me there are 100 threads like this because the system of xda didn't show me any similar threads, and if there are, then sorry.
Not entirely sure on PA, but AOKP (the PUB builds anyway) have some cool optimizations. PA I believe has more customization available than AOKP, and has PIE (some navbar-less thing I believe). I haven't tried PA yet on the N10 so I have no idea really :/
Your welcome to flash one, try it out, and then flash the other though. Probably a better choice to see for yourself which is better.
espionage724 said:
Not entirely sure on PA, but AOKP (the PUB builds anyway) have some cool optimizations. PA I believe has more customization available than AOKP, and has PIE (some navbar-less thing I believe). I haven't tried PA yet on the N10 so I have no idea really :/
Your welcome to flash one, try it out, and then flash the other though. Probably a better choice to see for yourself which is better.
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True, im gonna try it today. Im rooted with superboot and my bootloader is locked, if i install twrp through goo manager i can already flash the rom? Thanks
lKBZl said:
True, im gonna try it today. Im rooted with superboot and my bootloader is locked, if i install terp through goo managet i can already flahs the roms? Thanks
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Yep once you have TWRP installed, you can flash either ROM
lKBZl said:
True, im gonna try it today. Im rooted with superboot and my bootloader is locked, if i install twrp through goo manager i can already flash the rom? Thanks
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Wait. is your bootloader is LOCKED or UNLOCKED? You need to be UNLOCKED to flash a ROM. I personally love Task650/Ktoonsez's version of AOKP. The custom kernel they use(Underwear) is pretty fast, but I have recently installed KTManta and it flies. PA is also fantastic, with features unique to PA like PIE and the whole dpi/color thing. I only stopped using it because PA 3.0 had random reboots. They apparently fixed the reboots in yesterday's PA 3.1, so I'm going to flash that tonight and try it. Flash whatever you want to try, just make sure to make backups of everything and you can zip back and forth between ROMs in minutes.
Koopa777 said:
Wait. is your bootloader is LOCKED or UNLOCKED? You need to be UNLOCKED to flash a ROM. I personally love Task650/Ktoonsez's version of AOKP. The custom kernel they use(Underwear) is pretty fast, but I have recently installed KTManta and it flies. PA is also fantastic, with features unique to PA like PIE and the whole dpi/color thing. I only stopped using it because PA 3.0 had random reboots. They apparently fixed the reboots in yesterday's PA 3.1, so I'm going to flash that tonight and try it. Flash whatever you want to try, just make sure to make backups of everything and you can zip back and forth between ROMs in minutes.
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Hey Koopa and thanks. I succesfully unlocked and rooted with wugs toolkit so im just gonna flash PA. Thanks again for the advice! However I'd like if you can explain me that about the backups. If im on PA and I want to go to AOSP (from craig), do I have to restore my backup (I did a backup just after I unlocked and rooted) or I only have to wipe data/cache/dalvik and flash the other rom?
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Hey Koopa and thanks. I succesfully unlocked and rooted with wugs toolkit so im just gonna flash PA. Thanks again for the advice! However I'd like if you can explain me that about the backups. If im on PA and I want to go to AOSP (from craig), do I have to restore my backup (I did a backup just after I unlocked and rooted) or I only have to wipe data/cache/dalvik and flash the other rom?
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The TWRP backups are images of the tablet at the time of the backup, including data, ROM, and the kernel. You never have to flash the stock backup unless you want to go back to that state(Think of stock as just another ROM, which it is in the end). In your case, you would make a backup of PA, then, with the ROM zip on your tablet, you would factory reset, wipe cache/dalvik, format system(wipe ROM), then flash the ROM/gapps. You technically don't 'need' to do anything when restoring a backup, but I always do just to be safe. A note about the system wipe is that it wipes the ROM currently installed(be it stock, PA, AOKP, CM, etc.) and is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED when changing ROMS or Android base versions(4.2.1 to 4.2.2 for example). If not things can get wonky in regards to the kernel differences and such. I always clean the 4 before switching ROMS and I haven't had an issue. If you make backups on a per-ROM basis, you can wipe and restore the ROM with all your apps and such anytime you want.
I was in a hurry, so if any of that makes no sense content-wise/grammatically, let me know. There are also FAQs that are far better at explaining this than I am, I'll try to find some for you.
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The TWRP backups are images of the tablet at the time of the backup, including data, ROM, and the kernel. You never have to flash the stock backup unless you want to go back to that state(Think of stock as just another ROM, which it is in the end). In your case, you would make a backup of PA, then, with the ROM zip on your tablet, you would factory reset, wipe cache/dalvik, format system(wipe ROM), then flash the ROM/gapps. You technically don't 'need' to do anything when restoring a backup, but I always do just to be safe. A note about the system wipe is that it wipes the ROM currently installed(be it stock, PA, AOKP, CM, etc.) and is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED when changing ROMS or Android base versions(4.2.1 to 4.2.2 for example). If not things can get wonky in regards to the kernel differences and such. I always clean the 4 before switching ROMS and I haven't had an issue. If you make backups on a per-ROM basis, you can wipe and restore the ROM with all your apps and such anytime you want.
I was in a hurry, so if any of that makes no sense content-wise/grammatically, let me know. There are also FAQs that are far better at explaining this than I am, I'll try to find some for you.
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No worries, understood it. I see it's pretty different than with my Samsung Galaxy S, but that makes sense since the roms have different base and those have all the same. So if im not wrong, I make a backup of PA, then make all the wipes, and I can go AOSP. That easy?
lKBZl said:
No worries, understood it. I see it's pretty different than with my Samsung Galaxy S, but that makes sense since the roms have different base and those have all the same. So if im not wrong, I make a backup of PA, then make all the wipes, and I can go AOSP. That easy?
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That is correct.
Both AOKP & PA have a lot customization fun.
Individual features of AOKP
More customize on navigation bar, can even add screen off button.
Ability to add extra apps at Google Now pull up.
Ability to set how many column of Quick Settings.
Individual features of PA
Powerful Hybrid Properties where allow you set different apps different navigation + notification bar & icons color.
Ability to change DPI for every single apps.
Pie support, you can set certain apps full screen (no navigation bar) and the pie will pop-up when you slide from side (depends on where you set at either bottom, left, right or top).
AOKP & PA benefits over stock
Beside above list indivdual settings, both let you set preferable layout UI, either Phone, Phablet (stock look) or Tablet (previous Android tablet look).
Themes support, all CM 10.1 / AOKP themes is compatible with AOKP and PA.
Quick Settings customization, choose preferable toggle.
** Now I am fall in love with PA and use it for my tablet and phone.
lKBZl said:
Well i'd like to know which are the differences between those roms.
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Performance wise PA sucks. The input lag on it is completely unbearable to me and greatly hinders fast paced games. As for the features, PA is great. It probably has a couple more features than AOKP but I havent used AOKP in a month so it may have gotten more.
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Performance wise PA sucks. The input lag on it is completely unbearable to me and greatly hinders fast paced games. As for the features, PA is great. It probably has a couple more features than AOKP but I havent used AOKP in a month so it may have gotten more.
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Not sure about the performance since I have it flashed since yesterday, but I saw a video comparison of PA and AOKP on youtube and it looked like AOKP was a lot faster (here is the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNxdhF-nvec). Is the battery life way worse? And will it be updated to 4.2.2?
Thanks for the comments btw.
I'm also debating. Either Carbon or AOKP.
My main question is:
How is the battery compared to Stock after Flashing?
I'm running AOKP on my S3, I did however try Carbon....but prefer AOKP.
Thanks.
After few days running PA, I am back to AOKP even thought PA features much rich but... not the performance and stability.
PA still need more tunes on it performance and stability.
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Not sure about the performance since I have it flashed since yesterday, but I saw a video comparison of PA and AOKP on youtube and it looked like AOKP was a lot faster (here is the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNxdhF-nvec). Is the battery life way worse? And will it be updated to 4.2.2?
Thanks for the comments btw.
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PA 3.1, AOKP unofficial & CM 10.1 already at 4.2.2
Andrewtst said:
After few days running PA, I am back to AOKP even thought PA features much rich but... not the performance and stability.
PA still need more tunes on it performance and stability.
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PA 3.1, AOKP unofficial & CM 10.1 already at 4.2.2
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I also want to try AOKP but there are too many different AOKP roms and I don't know which is the original one. I'm getting frustrated, I was gonna try a "new" one but I saw it has some buggs with games and with volume so I'm not moving untill I know there's a good and official one...
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I also want to try AOKP but there are too many different AOKP roms and I don't know which is the original one. I'm getting frustrated, I was gonna try a "new" one but I saw it has some buggs with games and with volume so I'm not moving untill I know there's a good and official one...
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I was looking into AOKP ROMs the other day, and from my understanding there's an official AOKP (somewhere), and 2 AOKP's with PUB optimizations, one being official, and the other being unofficial and posted under general Android development on xda.
I'd recommend the AOKP with PUB. Stable I think is 4.2.1 still, but there are some "slightly" hidden 4.2.2 nightly builds available.
espionage724 said:
I was looking into AOKP ROMs the other day, and from my understanding there's an official AOKP (somewhere), and 2 AOKP's with PUB optimizations, one being official, and the other being unofficial and posted under general Android development on xda.
I'd recommend the AOKP with PUB. Stable I think is 4.2.1 still, but there are some "slightly" hidden 4.2.2 nightly builds available.
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Allright, that stable 4.2.1, which I guess it's the official one, is not gonna be updated to 4.2.2 right? And those 4.2.2. might have some buggs so I'm not sure if wait or try the 4.2.1. I might try it, guess it will still be better than PA in therms of performance, but I love the customization of PA. Thanks.
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Allright, that stable 4.2.1, which I guess it's the official one, is not gonna be updated to 4.2.2 right? And those 4.2.2. might have some buggs so I'm not sure if wait or try the 4.2.1. I might try it, guess it will still be better than PA in therms of performance, but I love the customization of PA. Thanks.
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Unofficial & Official AOKP was far stable than PA, I don't see any big bugs.
They is no bugs of games or sound, don't look too much on bigxie unofficial thread of AOKP 4.2.2, that one was including all user report bugs on Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, Nexus 7, and Nexus 10.
I recon only use the 4.2.2 build of AOKP, don't use any 4.2.1 which had hanging/restart issue due to it 4.2.1 main issue.
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Unofficial & Official AOKP was far stable than PA, I don't see any big bugs.
They is no bugs of games or sound, don't look too much on bigxie unofficial thread of AOKP 4.2.2, that one was including all user report bugs on Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, Nexus 7, and Nexus 10.
I recon only use the 4.2.2 build of AOKP, don't use any 4.2.1 which had hanging/restart issue due to it 4.2.1 main issue.
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Was talking about this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2161328 last comments is what I was saying about buggs.
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Was talking about this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2161328 last comments is what I was saying about buggs.
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if you so worry and not trust AOKP, don't use.
Which part I talk on that customize AOKP did by a person that not even have nexus 10. Really funny.
If not dare to dry, don't try.
Also when people talk on specific AOKP ROM, why you not listen, some more message me to others AOKP ROM not mention by me.
I am using and advise you on mrRobinson build, link had given before in official AOKP 4.2.1 thread. mrRobinson did not open a new thread for his modified version which was base on latest 4.2.2 build. He just post there.
I just got my S4 (GT-I9505) from my dad. I'm really excited but I don't know where to start. What should I do first now that I have it? Should I root it first? What is the best Rom and Kernel for this device? Any advice would be much appreciated!
If I were you I will perform a factory reset first This model has many ROMs, you may try each of them and find out your favorite one.:cyclops:
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If I were you I will perform a factory reset first This model has many ROMs, you may try each of them and find out your favorite one.:cyclops:
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Would you happen to know which one is the most popular rom right now? Or the best one? Or how about the best Rom for gaming?
Likach said:
Would you happen to know which one is the most popular rom right now? Or the best one? Or how about the best Rom for gaming?
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i will suggest Halcyon ROM
quite smooth compare to other juz my opinion have a loot for it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/i9500-develop/phoenix-rom-i9500-t3101153
shingz96 said:
i will suggest Halcyon ROM
quite smooth compare to other juz my opinion have a loot for it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/i9500-develop/phoenix-rom-i9500-t3101153
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I have i9505 though. I don't think it's compatible?
Once you're rooted and running custom recovery you can multiboot it, (run multiple custom Roms) all information is in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2864469
Alucard's kernel should give you good perfomance.
Or Hulk kernel. With hulk you can overclock the up to 2.1 Ghz. But I feel like Alucard gives you better performance (when running 1.9).
As for the roms, they are all pretty much the same.
I've tried Sabermod CM12.1, Resurrection Remix, AICP 9, FlexOS.
They pretty much have the same performance (judging by the UI speed).
Haven't tried the SlimLP builds yet.
I also tend to return to the GPE rom. It's 5.0.1 though.
The reason I keep coming back to GPE is that I have pretty much no problems with it. Very stable.
In benchmarks you will get the same score on all roms. I got an average of ~32000 on all the above mentioned roms.
So, in the end it will come down to how the rom feels (fast ans smooth or slow and laggy) to the user.
GDReaper said:
Alucard's kernel should give you good perfomance.
Or Hulk kernel. With hulk you can overclock the up to 2.1 Ghz. But I feel like Alucard gives you better performance (when running 1.9).
As for the roms, they are all pretty much the same.
I've tried Sabermod CM12.1, Resurrection Remix, AICP 9, FlexOS.
They pretty much have the same performance (judging by the UI speed).
Haven't tried the SlimLP builds yet.
I also tend to return to the GPE rom. It's 5.0.1 though.
The reason I keep coming back to GPE is that I have pretty much no problems with it. Very stable.
In benchmarks you will get the same score on all roms. I got an average of ~32000 on all the above mentioned roms.
So, in the end it will come down to how the rom feels (fast ans smooth or slow and laggy) to the user.
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Any experience with CyanogenMod? When I click the ROM tab, CyanogenMod is listed first so I'm thinking that it is the most popular right now. Do you have any info on how good or how stable the mod is?
Also, quick question. When flashing a rom, I know that I wipe the cache and dalvik cache before flashing. But should I also wipe these 2 after wiping?
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Also, quick question. When flashing a rom, I know that I wipe the cache and dalvik cache before flashing. But should I also wipe these 2 after wiping?
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Not necessary but yo can
ooer! woa there cowboy! It's new. Take your time to explore and understand how it all works then once you get that feeling that you're sure this or that could be better that's the moment when you can think about rom flashing.
I loved the phone when I got it. I then thought hey, I'll flash cyanogen on it. That worked well for a time (and they're getting better and better with each version).
I then went a while with a danvdh's excellent google edition rom (imho a very good compromise for the minimalist).
I finally came full circle back to a TW based rom (for info the Imperium v9) with which I am most happy.
Through all that I discovered that what I wanted most was an excellent camera, good video player and good battery life, all of which come included in TW roms.
The Imperium or other roms bring nice tweaks and optimisations all of which came from that famous itch that every geek has for making things that bit better.
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ooer! woa there cowboy! It's new. Take your time to explore and understand how it all works then once you get that feeling that you're sure this or that could be better that's the moment when you can think about rom flashing.
I loved the phone when I got it. I then thought hey, I'll flash cyanogen on it. That worked well for a time (and they're getting better and better with each version).
I then went a while with a danvdh's excellent google edition rom (imho a very good compromise for the minimalist).
I finally came full circle back to a TW based rom (for info the Imperium v9) with which I am most happy.
Through all that I discovered that what I wanted most was an excellent camera, good video player and good battery life, all of which come included in TW roms.
The Imperium or other roms bring nice tweaks and optimisations all of which came from that famous itch that every geek has for making things that bit better.
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If I were to play taxing games, which rom would you suggest? I'm in a tie up between Cyanogen and Google Play Edition.
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If I were to play taxing games, which rom would you suggest? I'm in a tie up between Cyanogen and Google Play Edition.
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In bechmarks both roms give the same scores. So there isn't much to say about that. CM does feel a bit faster in my opinion. But I don't know if it offers any noticeable advantage. Unless you're willing to run android 5.0 and ktoonsez kernel (which offers CPU and GPU overclock and Is only available for CM).