[Q] How Backup Before Rooting? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi there guys
i have just bought a new s4 and currently im a noob in android and would be very thankfull if you can answer two questions regarding backup and restore:
1.is it possible to backup my stock rom wich i recieved with my s4 in cmw before rooting the device?
2. does restoring a rom wich you backed up after rooting will gain you automaticly root access when in restoring it? (superuser and the premissions will be installed and activated automaticly?)
thanks in advance !

stompyz said:
hi there guys
i have just bought a new s4 and currently im a noob in android and would be very thankfull if you can answer two questions regarding backup and restore:
1.is it possible to backup my stock rom wich i recieved with my s4 in cmw before rooting the device?
2. does restoring a rom wich you backed up after rooting will gain you automaticly root access when in restoring it? (superuser and the premissions will be installed and activated automaticly?)
thanks in advance !
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Hi,
1 .Yes ,you can backup your entire system with the recovery backup.
2. If you back up a rooted system,it will restore as a rooted system.

malybru said:
Hi,
1 .Yes ,you can backup your entire system with the recovery backup.
2. If you back up a rooted system,it will restore as a rooted system.
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thanks alot for your help! i was just reading that after installing CWM on the galaxy i wownt be able to recieve OTA updates even before rooting?
my whole plan was to backup my current rom (stock rom that i recieved my phone with) and then root it. wanted this for the abilitiy to restore in the future back to my stock rom without rooting in order to obtain ota software updates.
how can this be done?
thanks alot in advance!

stompyz said:
thanks alot for your help! i was just reading that after installing CWM on the galaxy i wownt be able to recieve OTA updates even before rooting?
my whole plan was to backup my current rom (stock rom that i recieved my phone with) and then root it. wanted this for the abilitiy to restore in the future back to my stock rom without rooting in order to obtain ota software updates.
how can this be done?
thanks alot in advance!
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Hi,
Look HERE
Your best plan would be to install a recovery,backup your system,and then return it to an "Official" rooted system with the link I gave you.
On the thread there is a link for a stock recovery to return you to stock and be able to receive updates.
The thread I gave you ,the [OP] is constantly updating his ROMS,so you will not lose out on updates anyway.

malybru said:
Hi,
Look HERE
Your best plan would be to install a recovery,backup your system,and then return it to an "Official" rooted system with the link I gave you.
On the thread there is a link for a stock recovery to return you to stock and be able to receive updates.
The thread I gave you ,the [OP] is constantly updating his ROMS,so you will not lose out on updates anyway.
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thanks for that tutorial but im on i9500 so i guess its not for me.
i have on other hand found and downloaded the exact stock rom of my s4 to my pc from a local android website
so if something goes wrong and i need warrenty will flashing the stock rom wich i have download via odin after rooting via cwm will remove them completly? (will remove the cwm and root after flashing via odin?)

stompyz said:
thanks for that tutorial but im on i9500 so i guess its not for me.
i have on other hand found and downloaded the exact stock rom of my s4 to my pc from a local android website
so if something goes wrong and i need warrenty will flashing the stock rom wich i have download via odin after rooting via cwm will remove them completly? (will remove the cwm and root after flashing via odin?)
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Hi,
It depends whether the stock ROM contains stock recovery.
I doubt it.
You will probably have to find a stock recovery somewhere.
Sent telepathically from my S4

stompyz said:
thanks for that tutorial but im on i9500 so i guess its not for me.
i have on other hand found and downloaded the exact stock rom of my s4 to my pc from a local android website
so if something goes wrong and i need warrenty will flashing the stock rom wich i have download via odin after rooting via cwm will remove them completly? (will remove the cwm and root after flashing via odin?)
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Yes. Official Stock rom contains stock recovery.
But before unrooting see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292615 to be on full warranty
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

samersh72 said:
Yes. Official Stock rom contains stock recovery.
But before unrooting see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292615 to be on full warranty
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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thanks for the help guys, regarding root i have read about cf-auto-root but once it has the stock recovery i wouldnt be able to flash any custom roms in the furute so i have thought to root with cofface cwm : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2262110
his cwm looks very popular and has ability for root/unroot feature. the unroot in cwm by cofface wownt do the work for me if needed?

t-mobile
galaxy s4
sgh-m919
android 4.3
baseband m919uvuemk2
kernel version 3.4.0-2015522
have spent the last day boning up on rooting my t-mobile s4 4.3 and still feel that i have too many questions, and i consider myself pretty tech savvy, at least in terms of pcs! anyway i'm someone could help me with the following questions:
1. can i take a snapshot of my current (stock) setup before i root, which i would be able to reload in the event i find rooting is not for me? i'm talking about a backup, image or snapshot of everything that's now on my phone which i can restore if needed, returning my phone to it's exact state before i rooted?
2. when i root my phone will it delete such things as my contacts, photos, apps, etc? or will that only happen when a custom rom is installed after rooting? if the latter, i'm guessing i could do a full phone backup after rooting using something like titanium, and the flash a custom rom which would give me a clean os, free of all samsung's and t-mobile's bloatware? and if i decided a rooted phone wasn't for me, i could restore the backup of my original phone using titanium?
3. when i root my phone and install a clean, bloat-free os, what sort of thing will no longer be possible in terms of my provider's (tmobile) services? for example i guess i would no longer get automatic ota's? how about tmobile notifications or the like? will tmobile be able to access my rooted phone as they are able to do now? and if not are there any disadvantages to this? i'm guessing there are more advantages to this.
4. so once my phoned is rooted and a new rom flashed, is it a relatively easy process to reload all of my contacts, photos and settings?
5. and, finally, someone recommended that i use the rotting steps outlined at galaxys4root.com, do you agree?
thanks very much in advance, what a tremendous community!

aeneas1 said:
t-mobile
galaxy s4
sgh-m919
android 4.3
baseband m919uvuemk2
kernel version 3.4.0-2015522
have spent the last day boning up on rooting my t-mobile s4 4.3 and still feel that i have too many questions, and i consider myself pretty tech savvy, at least in terms of pcs! anyway i'm someone could help me with the following questions:
1. can i take a snapshot of my current (stock) setup before i root, which i would be able to reload in the event i find rooting is not for me? i'm talking about a backup, image or snapshot of everything that's now on my phone which i can restore if needed, returning my phone to it's exact state before i rooted?
2. when i root my phone will it delete such things as my contacts, photos, apps, etc? or will that only happen when a custom rom is installed after rooting? if the latter, i'm guessing i could do a full phone backup after rooting using something like titanium, and the flash a custom rom which would give me a clean os, free of all samsung's and t-mobile's bloatware? and if i decided a rooted phone wasn't for me, i could restore the backup of my original phone using titanium?
3. when i root my phone and install a clean, bloat-free os, what sort of thing will no longer be possible in terms of my provider's (tmobile) services? for example i guess i would no longer get automatic ota's? how about tmobile notifications or the like? will tmobile be able to access my rooted phone as they are able to do now? and if not are there any disadvantages to this? i'm guessing there are more advantages to this.
4. so once my phoned is rooted and a new rom flashed, is it a relatively easy process to reload all of my contacts, photos and settings?
5. and, finally, someone recommended that i use the rotting steps outlined at galaxys4root.com, do you agree?
thanks very much in advance, what a tremendous community!
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Hi,
Try posting in your own dedicated forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2279

malybru said:
Hi,
Try posting in your own dedicated forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2279
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odd, thought that's where i posted....
anyway
> i went ahead and rooted using the "[SGH-M919] CF-Auto-Root" method provided by chainfire and it worked without a hitch, was a very quick and simple process.
> confirmed with root checker, all is good.
> also, fwiw, knox was tripped and now reads 0x1, but my warranty expires in a couple of months or so, so no big deal to me (was never too concerned about the warranty anyway).
> device status now shows custom
> downloaded titanium and backed up apps and system data - was hoping for an option that allowed me to take an image of my phone that could be restored if needed. perhaps i can do that with cwm when i back up the rom?
> now i'm going to try and flash some custom roms, should be fun.

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[Q] 9500 Rooting - can I root using Adam kernel then restore original one?

Hi,
I've seen that the recommended way to root the 9500 is to flash the Adam kernel, then install CWM to get the SU application only properly and working. Once CWM is on the phone, is it possible to restore the original kernel and still keep root? I'd like to be able to keep the ability to get OTA updates and stay as close to stock as possible (apart from root of course!).
Regards,
Ian
hirowla said:
Hi,
I've seen that the recommended way to root the 9500 is to flash the Adam kernel, then install CWM to get the SU application only properly and working. Once CWM is on the phone, is it possible to restore the original kernel and still keep root? I'd like to be able to keep the ability to get OTA updates and stay as close to stock as possible (apart from root of course!).
Regards,
Ian
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Chainfire root method is available u can use that below is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292615
[GT-I9500] CF-Auto-Root
I guess u need to have root to make CWM work
Also if u want to have OTA I guess u can try installing pre rooted firmware available some where in this forum itself
Sent from my GT-I9500 using xda premium
Thanks for that, I'll try it tonight when I get time.
Can you point me to pre-rooted firmware in this forum? I looked at every thread in the Dev and Original Dev forums and all of them seem customised in some way. All I want at the end of this process (if possible) is a stock, rooted phone. Maybe that might be a better way to go - I'll decide tonight - but I have to find the link first!
Regards,
Ian
hirowla said:
Thanks for that, I'll try it tonight when I get time.
Can you point me to pre-rooted firmware in this forum? I looked at every thread in the Dev and Original Dev forums and all of them seem customised in some way. All I want at the end of this process (if possible) is a stock, rooted phone. Maybe that might be a better way to go - I'll decide tonight - but I have to find the link first!
Regards,
Ian
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http://androidlegend.com/pre-rooted-android-4-2-2-jelly-bean-xxuamc6-firmware-for-samsung-galaxy-s4/
I had seen in this forum cud not find anymore try the above at ur risk and see
However if u only root its stock firmware only except loosing OTA which u will get here b4 Samsung mostly and flash thru ODIN
U take a call
Hope this helps

[Q] Steps to get my phone ready for Android 4.4

Hello!
I recently had Xposed Framework installed. I uninstalled it to get my phone ready for the Android 4.4 OTA.
I have a STOCK ROOTED Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery (Bootloader: Unlocked).
I wanted to download the Android 4.4 OTA once it is released.
Based on what I understand, there are two ways (that I prefer) of receiving this:
1> Unroot the phone and put stock recovery. I had a question with this method:
a: Would I need to lock the bootloader to install the OTA? If yes, on locking would I loose my data?
2> Flashing a binary that would be released on the Google website. I also had a few questions related to this:
a: Would I loose my data if I did so?
b: Do I need to make any changes to my Stock Rooted Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery to follow this method?
Which method would you follow? Or do you have a better method? Please help me out :laugh:
Thank You!
Just go to the ota help desk here on xda and once the ota is being released they will put it in a zip file and you will be able to install it in recovery without losing any data, so just like a normal ota.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Thibaultvw said:
Just go to the ota help desk here on xda and once the ota is being released they will put it in a zip file and you will be able to install it in recovery without losing any data, so just like a normal ota.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
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That's great. But what if I want to install the OTA? Wouldn't installing something from the OTA Helpdesk void the warranty?
ak****soota said:
That's great. But what if I want to install the OTA? Wouldn't installing something from the OTA Helpdesk void the warranty?
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No................................................................. this isn't a Samsung phone.
Can anyone confirm you need to unroot or not to receive OTA? (I have never bothered with it since flashing roms). Just make sure you're running unrooted stock rom that is odexed, stock kernel and stock recovery, as far as I know.
If you flash the factory firmware from Google it will wipe out everything, including your /sdcard/ partition. You could wait for a 'stock rom' that is flashable by custom recovery, these don't delete your /sdcard while flashing, these (unrooted odexed) roms should still be able to receive OTA (correct me if I'm wrong).
Yes u will have to unroot to receive OTA.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
ak****soota said:
Hello!
I recently had Xposed Framework installed. I uninstalled it to get my phone ready for the Android 4.4 OTA.
I have a STOCK ROOTED Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery (Bootloader: Unlocked).
I wanted to download the Android 4.4 OTA once it is released.
Based on what I understand, there are two ways (that I prefer) of receiving this:
1> Unroot the phone and put stock recovery. I had a question with this method:
a: Would I need to lock the bootloader to install the OTA? If yes, on locking would I loose my data?
2> Flashing a binary that would be released on the Google website. I also had a few questions related to this:
a: Would I loose my data if I did so?
b: Do I need to make any changes to my Stock Rooted Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery to follow this method?
Which method would you follow? Or do you have a better method? Please help me out :laugh:
Thank You!
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I see so many of these threads and then I see the I bricked my phone going back to stock threads next. Please if you enjoy root and the features it brings you just relax and wait out the update. Your favorite developer will then create a nice new KitKat version with your updates and customizations. Of course do what you like but to unroot and get rid of your custom rom to have stock and then re root to try and get the same effect again just sounds crazy too me.
Patience is a virtue
Edit: but your question is what route to take just so you know there are back to stock threads which would be your best bet to follow if you honestly feel like doing all that to undo it later....

[Q] Stock rooted to lollipop

Hi guys,
I am currently using stock and rooted 4.4.2 firmware (international version) and I want to update my N9005 to official Lollipop, specifically this rom. Can I update it via Odin or do I have to get back to non-rooted stock 4.4.2 and then update to 5.0? Am I going to lose all my data with flashing this 5.0 rom?
Also, after updating, is it possible to root stock lollipop rom?
Thanks in advance guys!
Yes, sure you can flash that ROM in Odin, no need to go back to stock unrooted 4.4.2, doesn't matter if you are rooted or not currently, or even if you are using a custom ROM.
However I can't say whether upgrading will cause loss of data or not, I always wipe my phone before upgrading so I can't say that, sorry.
Yes, you can root Lollipop easily further.
markos807 said:
Hi guys,
I am currently using stock and rooted 4.4.2 firmware (international version) and I want to update my N9005 to official Lollipop, specifically this rom. Can I update it via Odin or do I have to get back to non-rooted stock 4.4.2 and then update to 5.0? Am I going to lose all my data with flashing this 5.0 rom?
Also, after updating, is it possible to root stock lollipop rom?
Thanks in advance guys!
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If you're rooted you can install a custom recovery like TWRP and do a nandroid backup in Recovery. Then later you can Restore data. Note Custom Recovery will most likely trip Knox so if you are still on 0x0 Warranty bit (check in Download Mode screen) you should probably rely on Titanium Backup or similar to back up all your user apps and data to extSDCard.
Journyman16 said:
If you're rooted you can install a custom recovery like TWRP and do a nandroid backup in Recovery. Then later you can Restore data. Note Custom Recovery will most likely trip Knox so if you are still on 0x0 Warranty bit (check in Download Mode screen) you should probably rely on Titanium Backup or similar to back up all your user apps and data to extSDCard.
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Thanks guys, appreciate it! Can you please send me a link to the custom recovery which is by your opinion the best, I suppose TWRP? And also, if you can, send me a tutorial for rooting the lollipop. Thanks!
markos807 said:
Thanks guys, appreciate it! Can you please send me a link to the custom recovery which is by your opinion the best, I suppose TWRP? And also, if you can, send me a tutorial for rooting the lollipop. Thanks!
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The Team Win project thread is in the Original Android Development forums - go here and read up on it before you try. Note the up to date versions are in the techerrata mirror link.
LP root guide - you will need to do a search - not something I've had to look for - it was JB when I rooted my phone.
At first try I've failed in Odin with flashing this rom, and I've tried to do it again and strangely it succeeded. Android L looks and feels great and very smooth, thanks guys for your help! Also, all of my data stayed where they were before flashing, so that's another plus for this flashing.

Please correct me if i am wrong

Hello guys,
Please excuse my noobish question, but i need to find some good answer.
I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 3, model number SM-N9005 with Android version 4.4.2.
The phablet is rooted thanks to Towelroot. And from there i install Titanium Backup and many others intersting stuff that need/or not root.
I enjoyed Xposed and i'm thinking i want to enjoy CyanogenMod also.
Now ... my problems is that i am very confused about what i have to do next.
And after i spent some time to research this, i've come here for some guidance because i fell that i'm running in circle.
My questions are :
Do i have to upgrade to Lollipop first ?
Do i have to unroot from Towelroot and root again with Odin ?
As i saw that steps are as follow:
1. Need root
2. Install TWRP
3. CyanogenMod (as i saw 12 is the last and it's good for my device)
Many thanks !
mesimple said:
Hello guys,
Please excuse my noobish question, but i need to find some good answer.
I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 3, model number SM-N9005 with Android version 4.4.2.
The phablet is rooted thanks to Towelroot. And from there i install Titanium Backup and many others intersting stuff that need/or not root.
I enjoyed Xposed and i'm thinking i want to enjoy CyanogenMod also.
Now ... my problems is that i am very confused about what i have to do next.
And after i spent some time to research this, i've come here for some guidance because i fell that i'm running in circle.
My questions are :
Do i have to upgrade to Lollipop first ?
Do i have to unroot from Towelroot and root again with Odin ?
As i saw that steps are as follow:
1. Need root
2. Install TWRP
3. CyanogenMod (as i saw 12 is the last and it's good for my device)
Many thanks !
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1. Unique way to update to Lollipop (if you are rooted) is via ODIN. I don't recommend you update anyway. I still with android 4.4.2.
2. No. Only flash the new firmware via ODIN and root it then with ODIN too.
3. I don't recommend you install CyanogenMod if you are noob.
If you do want CyanogenMod, you only need to install TWRP, and then flash latest CM-12.1 nightly build in recovery. You do need to wipe /data first, though which means you will lose your apps and settings.
Always make backups!
Sent using XDA One
Now i'm even more stuck:
Joku1981 said:
1. Unique way to update to Lollipop (if you are rooted) is via ODIN. I don't recommend you update anyway. I still with android 4.4.2.
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So why do you dont recommend to me to upgrade to Lollipop ?
Is Kit Kat better at this time than Lollipop ?
If i will update via ODIN, is there a better way to do that ?
And ... Still have my question about what if i'll unroot (and how can i do that safe) and root it by examples via ODIN and then follow others tutorials with TWRP and CyanogenMod. I'm not confortable via ODIN (but if i find some good, trusted tutorials, i want to try it) because as i told you before i rooted my phablet, the easy way via Towelroot.
2. No. Only flash the new firmware via ODIN and root it then with ODIN too.
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Your 2nd answer it's just confuse me. Can you clarify it ?
3. I don't recommend you install CyanogenMod if you are noob.
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I think i'd like to taste the beneffit of being free and in the same time to progress my knowledge about Android.
Any way, i thank again for you time !
jisoo said:
If you do want CyanogenMod, you only need to install TWRP, and then flash latest CM-12.1 nightly build in recovery. You do need to wipe /data first, though which means you will lose your apps and settings.
Always make backups!
Sent using XDA One
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So, i don't need to be rooted in order to execute these steps ?
If i'll need to be rooted (as i am right now with Towelroot ), what should i do ?
Thanks for your time !
mesimple said:
So, i don't need to be rooted in order to execute these steps ?
If i'll need to be rooted (as i am right now with Towelroot ), what should i do ?
Thanks for your time !
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If you want a CM rom just flash recovery with odin. No need to root. Then backup your phone and flash the CM rom. No need to upgrade to lollipop either.
However if you want a lollipop TW based rom it's better to upgrade to lollipop first. Nevertheless you can still try lollipop TW custom rom without upgrading to lollipop first but some functions may not work well.
If you can root your phone with Towelroot and you don't want to use odin to flash the recovery, you may do so by dd with terminal emulator.
Sent from my SM-N920C

How t re-lock the device again?

Hi guys,
I did root my device recently, is there any way to re-lock it again as I need to bring it back to the company?
Flash the latest firmware using Odin or initialize using smart switch. This will wipe the the data on the phone.
Stop making a post on this, multiple threads here that talk about fixing this.
Thank you qwewqa. Onw question more more please, how can I have a backup copy of my stock rom that I currently have? Something different than titanium backup please.
Thanks again
sleman111112 said:
Thank you qwewqa. Onw question more more please, how can I have a backup copy of my stock rom that I currently have? Something different than titanium backup please.
Thanks again
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Do you mean the rooted rom or the rom you have after the reset. You could backup using flashfire if rooted. Smart switch works for non rooted devices and rooted devices but will not backup app data.
Bump to top. When I flashed latest firmware it still shows the pad lock and custom
Any ideas? If possible to go completely stock?
tyrone1 said:
Bump to top. When I flashed latest firmware it still shows the pad lock and custom
Any ideas? If possible to go completely stock?
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Did you try reading post #2?
Re-flash the original firmware. It won't be rooted if successful. Therefore it would be completely stock again.

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