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Friends.
Android V5 is near launch in a month or two. So then Android V4 will be old.
Same samsung will launch new S4 with few more months waiting.
Update for s3 then will take even more time to come.
This procedure is going on & on with many bloatwares given by Samsung & also by other companies.
I love samsung phones & Use their phone, But support or poor support is biggest hurdel in buying s3 this time.
I am in serious confusion seeing future of S3.
It will get the update.
SGS got its update, SGS2 got its update, SGS3 will get its update.
Updates DO matter but the update plan for android 4 has been a disaster for ALL manufacturers except LG which we shouldn't even talk about as LG is the biggest joke on the android front. Even the nexus line is a failure. I almost got the nexus S a year ago just because of the whole dedicated concept but now I'm glad I didn't. I don't even think the nexus S will get android 5.
Samsung and HTC are those that I feel is the least slow with updates but still none of them will update their first flagships (SGS1 and DHD) even if they without a doubt can run vanilla ICS great. I thought Sony Ericsson learnt their lesson but apparently not as their flagship this year runs GB and that is laughable.
The only "comfort" in all this is that it's the same for all brands.
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Updates DO matter but the update plan for android 4 has been a disaster for ALL manufacturers except LG which we shouldn't even talk about as LG is the biggest joke on the android front. Even the nexus line is a failure. I almost got the nexus S a year ago just because of the whole dedicated concept but now I'm glad I didn't. I don't even think the nexus S will get android 5.
Samsung and HTC are those that I feel is the least slow with updates but still none of them will update their first flagships (SGS1 and DHD) even if they without a doubt can run vanilla ICS great. I thought Sony Ericsson learnt their lesson but apparently not as their flagship this year runs GB and that is laughable.
The only "comfort" in all this is that it's the same for all brands.
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DHD will get ICS as promised by HTC.
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DHD will get ICS as promised by HTC.
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Get galaxy nexus.
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Friends.
Android V5 is near launch in a month or two. So then Android V4 will be old.
Same samsung will launch new S4 with few more months waiting.
Update for s3 then will take even more time to come.
This procedure is going on & on with many bloatwares given by Samsung & also by other companies.
I love samsung phones & Use their phone, But support or poor support is biggest hurdel in buying s3 this time.
I am in serious confusion seeing future of S3.
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This cycle will repeat every year. If you want fast updates get nexus or you can flash roms on the sgs3 to get latest software. If you want latest hardware keep changing phones.
Also what support you are referring to? Why do you need support from useless samsung or any other manufacturer in that matter? XDA is your best support forum and you need manufacturer support only in case of hardware defect and need a warranty replacement or repair
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This cycle will repeat every year. If you want fast updates get nexus or you can flash roms on the sgs3 to get latest software. If you want latest hardware keep changing phones.
Also what support you are referring to? Why do you need support from useless samsung or any other manufacturer in that matter? XDA is your best support forum and you need manufacturer support only in case of hardware defect and need a warranty replacement or repair
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Exactly. If you are confused, then get a nexus so you won't be. Also, who says we are going to Android 5, what about 4.1? Lets not overhype please.
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Rumor has it Samsung, HTC, etc have early access to Jellybean in order to make their Nexii. Previously everyone besides Samsung only had access when it was released.
Whether or not this affects the update schedule remains to be seen. If it doesn't, you can either expect early-mid 2013 for the update, or flash it yourself (no company, not even some ideal hypothetical, can compete with homebrew speed).
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Friends.
Android V5 is near launch in a month or two. So then Android V4 will be old.
Same samsung will launch new S4 with few more months waiting.
Update for s3 then will take even more time to come.
This procedure is going on & on with many bloatwares given by Samsung & also by other companies.
I love samsung phones & Use their phone, But support or poor support is biggest hurdel in buying s3 this time.
I am in serious confusion seeing future of S3.
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What are you basing any of this on? I highly doubt we will see Android 5 this soon (unless it is purely a tablet OS, which I doubt).
Based on your logic, there is no point in buying an Android phone.
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Exactly. If you are confused, then get a nexus so you won't be. Also, who says we are going to Android 5, what about 4.1? Lets not overhype please.
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This.
Android 5 or 4.1 will more then likely come in December just like ics and gingerbread before that. If this is true, this gives you 5 to 6 more months with ics and I doubt the s3 will be as old as you are thinking; sure better devices can come to the market in the next 6 months but let's be real, the s3 will be able to do everything for the next year to a year and a half just fine. I've been with the HTC inspire and this thing is 2 years old yet I rarely have any lag considering I use this for everything including gaming.
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Have perfect solution for u, don't by the SGS 3 and keep waiting for the perfect one, I have a Gnex and very much doubt that it will have Jelly Bean in a month or two or three , maybe more like 5 months and in the smartphone age that is like a year. Or go get a phone named after a fruit. See no one will get Jelly Bean before it makes it's debut on the next Gnex and thats just the way the cookie crumbles. Thank the fruity company for making the latest version the "best " one, at least with Samsung you get more from the next version then just S voice as they did with the 4S and a bit more power.
If you rooted, you won't bother whether Samsung update on time or not because you have everything the best XDA can offer you. If you are not rooted, obviously you are not software geek, why bother whether your GS3 running ICS, Jellybean, Gingerbread or any other version? Everything is a big problem to human if he or she want to think that way.
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DHD will get ICS as promised by HTC.
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yeah sorry you're right, I was certain I read the other day that they cancelled the plan but now I see it will get it july or august, still very late. And considering that, why wont sgs1 get it officially?
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having a nexus phone doesn't guarantee you getting updates in the future. look at N1. and NS got it's first update pulled fast and then it took several months before a new ICS update came. That's why I don't care about the nexus line. And I think that the SGS3 will be a phone that feels fresh longer than any phone before, even with android 4.
ye, even i was thinking about that problem but then i just thought that if android 5 comes out then i will use the customised rom
Custom rom/buy new phone.
Ive had enough of waiting for retarded companies to update things.
Motorola milestone - 6 months late, not fully functional (GB)
LG optimus 3d - not available till september 2012 (at the earliest), sold with the promise of prompt ics update, instead waiting more than a whole year.
Never waiting for an update again. Just gonna buy the new phones.
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having a nexus phone doesn't guarantee you getting updates in the future. look at N1. and NS got it's first update pulled fast and then it took several months before a new ICS update came. That's why I don't care about the nexus line. And I think that the SGS3 will be a phone that feels fresh longer than any phone before, even with android 4.
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They messed up on the Dec update and probably had to redo. Unfortunately, company bureaucracy works much more slowly than we do, and a new update cycle can take 3-5 months. This is true for any company that offers warranties - they have to break as little as they can.
Had they not messed it up, however, NS could have had its upgrade hella quickly.
Don't want to deal with company bureaucracy? Flash homebrew (NS certainly had them much, much more quickly). Otherwise there's still no better option.
s3 will get official JB update and may be cm11 or cm12 for the other version of androids
So I am currently thinking about which phone to buy:
Nexus 4, Galaxy S3, HTC One X+
Now, I would root pretty much every phone (just for the love of adblock). So why would I profit from the Nexus 4 in terms of software updates? I could install whatever ROM I want on my HTC Desire HD?
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So I am currently thinking about which phone to buy:
Nexus 4, Galaxy S3, HTC One X+
Now, I would root pretty much every phone (just for the love of adblock). So why would I profit from the Nexus 4 in terms of software updates? I could install whatever ROM I want on my HTC Desire HD?
Thanks
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You could install whatever ROM on your Desire, but there is always the chance that something that doesn't work quite right; like BT not working, or WiFi broken or some other odds and end.
One thing I learned from owning Nexus's in the past is that many times you'll see that everything is 100% working more often than not. And that makes it worth it to me.
Never had any probs with Android Revolution HD or Cyanogenmod
I don't think it's easy to understand how good a Nexus is until you use one.
That is a reply I would expect from some apple fanboy
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Never had any probs with Android Revolution HD or Cyanogenmod
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But the Desire was a more "hacker friendly" device than others... follow the woes of getting CM9 (and 10) on the Galaxy S2 (I9100) or follow the drama that is the One X (AT&T.... root on the newest software version took forever; there is still no official bootloader unlock from HTC). The One X+ (on AT&T) might be the same... no ability to root or official unlocking of the bootloader for quite a while. The Verizon SGS 3 had its bootloader locked by Verizon (brilliant minds were able to bypass this, however..).
the moral of the story? the Nexus devices are able to have 1). quicker software updates because the carrier and phone manufacturer aren't involved and 2) can be rooted and bootloader unlocked right out of the box, ready to flash that custom rom that you always wanted.
that's not to say you can't have CM10 or any other custom rom on a phone that's not a Nexus, but anymore, restrictions and the refusal to release some bits of code, drivers, etc. from manufacturers can keep custom roms (at least ones built from AOSP) from functioning 100% on some devices (again, see I9100 development).
The nexus line gets the update on day 1.
Look how long it took to get cm 9 onto the contemporaries of the galaxy Nexus (gs2,g2x,sensation,etc...)
If you don't mind waiting 2-3 months, go for one of the other phones.
I've owned all of the above... And I'll never buy a non nexus again.
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I got a gs3 now and i am waiting for my gn4 to come soon.i doubt it will be anything special and to be honest i think it will lack many features sammy touchwiz roms offered.
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That is a reply I would expect from some apple fanboy
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It's good that I didn't waste my time explaining to someone like you then.
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I got a gs3 now and i am waiting for my gn4 to come soon.i doubt it will be anything special and to be honest i think it will lack many features sammy touchwiz roms offered.
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Why are you even buying the N4 then?
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zakazak said:
So I am currently thinking about which phone to buy:
Nexus 4, Galaxy S3, HTC One X+
Now, I would root pretty much every phone (just for the love of adblock). So why would I profit from the Nexus 4 in terms of software updates? I could install whatever ROM I want on my HTC Desire HD?
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Depending on where you live, the N4 is the least expensive. So more money in your pocket.
I've used nearly every single Android phone T-Mobile has to offer including the HD2 (winmo 6.5) and as far as I can tell, imo... no device has ever ran aosp or cm as smooth and flawless as the Nexus devices I've owned. I've always has the least amount of problems with a Nexus device.
Also, I hate waiting months for updates, I prefer to have my phone updated with the latest software when it's released. If you never owned a Nexus before, I recommend getting one now, it's the best time and this is definitely the best Nexus of them all...obviously since it's newest, but you get my point.
If I root the nexus 4, will i get orig. updates just as on an unrooted nexus 4 ?
Would like to root, remove random apps + install adblock.
While Nexus updates are awesome, keep in mind that Google has a pattern of discontinuing updates for its Nexus phones once they are two years old. Examples: Nexus One didn't get ICS (2 years after release) and Nexus S didn't get Jelly Bean 4.2 (again, 2 years after release). Galaxy Nexus is next in line.. I doubt it has anything to do with whether or not the hardware can support the new OS. Seems like it's just a rule they follow.
tbh, 2 years seems like a fine line for me... for ~300$
And also, after 2 years I expect the software to work so fine with my device that I wouldn't need future updates anymore (except their new features but who knows if someone will really need them).
still curious:
If I root the nexus 4, will i get orig. updates just as on an unrooted nexus 4 ?
Would like to root, remove random apps + install adblock
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I could install whatever ROM I want on my HTC Desire HD?
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You would still indirectly profit due to the updates being 1) instant, rather than having to rely on leaks until the "official" oem release, 2) open; for example, samsung not releasing the exynos 4 sources led to cm10 being very buggy
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tbh, 2 years seems like a fine line for me... for ~300$
And also, after 2 years I expect the software to work so fine with my device that I wouldn't need future updates anymore (except their new features but who knows if someone will really need them).
still curious:
If I root the nexus 4, will i get orig. updates just as on an unrooted nexus 4 ?
Would like to root, remove random apps + install adblock
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IIRC, you would not get OTA updates. But I'm currently on a Verizon GNex, so I don't think I've ever witnessed it asking me about a software update.
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IIRC, you would not get OTA updates. But I'm currently on a Verizon GNex, so I don't think I've ever witnessed it asking me about a software update.
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Could anyone confirm that? I would really want to root the phone.. and if that means I would have the same "update troubles" as with any other rooted/custom room device, then this would be a big minus point
zakazak said:
tbh, 2 years seems like a fine line for me... for ~300$
And also, after 2 years I expect the software to work so fine with my device that I wouldn't need future updates anymore (except their new features but who knows if someone will really need them).
still curious:
If I root the nexus 4, will i get orig. updates just as on an unrooted nexus 4 ?
Would like to root, remove random apps + install adblock
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As far as I know you will get OTA if rooted as long as you have stock rom and recovery, but I don't know for sure
I see we're all going crazy about the specs of the Xperia Z2, but no one here appears to be concerned about how slow sony is to roll out updates, Kitkat 4.4. was released on the 31th of October, and the Xperia Z1 , sony's current flagship still hasn't got it :/ ... 4 months after the release , they plan on delivering the update on April, 5 months, maybe 5 and a half months after 4.4 was really released and they're not making any promises of improving, what do you guys think?
That's definitely a concern of mine. Sony is worse than the major Android manufacturers (Motorola, HTC, Samsung, even LG is rolling out its Kitkat update) in terms of updates. One consolation is that Android updates aren't as big or crucial as they used to be since it is a pretty mature OS at this point, but I can't deny that I find Sony's update speed disappointing. I don't think it will stop me from getting the Z2, tho.
You have problems with 4.3?
It's incredible how people aren't satisfied, ever...
Wait and you'll get your KitKat...Sony is actually building their UI, it's not only cheap mask over Google framework - that's why they need time.
Wen you get KitKat you'll request another version...or you'll open thread to request root for kitkat...
Relax, you still have almost one whole year of support and everything will come and be released on time.
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I am not afraid.
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Chad_Petree said:
I see we're all going crazy about the specs of the Xperia Z2, but no one here appears to be concerned about how slow sony is to roll out updates, Kitkat 4.4. was released on the 31th of October, and the Xperia Z1 , sony's current flagship still hasn't got it :/ ... 4 months after the release , they plan on delivering the update on April, 5 months, maybe 5 and a half months after 4.4 was really released and they're not making any promises of improving, what do you guys think?
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It s so good If companies support their flagships for OS upgrade But there s no different between Sony or Samsung or ...
currently i m using Note3 on JB 4.3 however 4.4.2 for all variants released from Samsung But it s too slow.
If you want number of OS version you should buy nexus devices. that Google support them ~2 years (like Galaxy Nexus) with fast upgrade and release.
But If u r thinking about more functionality on ur smartphone u have to buy samsung, sony or ...
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You have problems with 4.3?
It's incredible how people aren't satisfied, ever...
Wait and you'll get your KitKat...Sony is actually building their UI, it's not only cheap mask over Google framework - that's why they need time.
Wen you get KitKat you'll request another version...or you'll open thread to request root for kitkat...
Relax, you still have almost one whole year of support and everything will come and be released on time.
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Do you really think that getting the update 5 months later is acceptable? It's not like we're getting a new UI with sony's implementation of kitkat, we should actually , I don't understand why reasonably demanding for things, makes us a**holes, should we just keep quiet and be content with what companies give us? How do you think HTC and Motorola updated their game ? By listening the the users complain , they want our money? They'd better work for it!
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Do you really think that getting the update 5 months later is acceptable? It's not like we're getting a new UI with sony's implementation of kitkat, we should actually , I don't understand why reasonably demanding for things, makes us a**holes, should we just keep quiet and be content with what companies give us? How do you think HTC and Motorola updated their game ? By listening the the users complain , they want our money? They'd better work for it!
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What are you really doing here - takes as is or leave it
I'm on a Nexus 5 and I love both pure Android and quicker updates. Unfortunately the lack of Hw specs (battery and microsd) will drive me to Z2 and its slowlier upgrades of sw.
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vittogn said:
I'm on a Nexus 5 and I love both pure Android and quicker updates. Unfortunately the lack of Hw specs (battery and microsd) will drive me to Z2 and its slowlier upgrades of sw.
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We're on similar situation , I can't stand the awful battery life of the nexus 5 , I don't miss the SD card at all since I have the 32 gb version and that's enough for me, what bothers me too is that the 16:9 photos are 6 MP, I would like 12-13 MP photos, I don't need 20 MP photos but I'm not complaining either Haha
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Some more thoughts on slower updates that might make your mind rest a little easier:
As someone else pointed out, if you take Samsung as an example, faster updates aren't always a good thing. Samsung devices are usually pretty well optimized for the version of Android they ship with, but when they update to a new major version of Android the performance can get substantially worse. I've noticed this with several Samsung devices. So giving a manufacturer the time to make sure everything works well on their hardware is a good thing. Keep in mind brand-new Android releases are often tailored to a subset of Android hardware in the latest Nexus devices, and hardware differences in other devices might take a while to perfect.
Also, new major versions of Android often have bad bugs. Look at Motorola who invested a lot of effort into getting 4.4 on the Moto X very soon after it was released. Unfortunately 4.4 had several major bugs including broken Exchange support! Moto X owners who upgraded were stuck with broken devices until Moto released 4.4.2 months later. So it is also good to wait for at least a couple of point releases before a manufacturer commits to a new version of Android.
Nexus devices don't have these issues because they can just keep releasing new updates quickly, but if a manufacturer's customized Android actually offers valuable improvements (which I think Sony's does) it makes sense to take a little longer.
I still wish Sony were faster, tho
I'm a bit worried. I honestly Sony would concentrate on one flagship per year, like everyone else. I'm on an XZ and am sick of trying to keep up. I'm considering my next phone now, but I can't say if the z2 is a slam dunk now. I do like the sound of the speakers though...
I've used Sony (Ericsson) phones for years. Late updates are a condition you either live with or jump ship. Sony has always been notoriously late with update releases.
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Personally not worried about getting updates late but a bit worried about not getting updates at all after a while & becoming abandoned
I mean Samsung is releasing Kitkat for GS3 which is a device from may 2012, Not sure if it's the same with Sony specially with their two flagship a year strategy
I'm not. If there is not a disturbing bug in Z2, I still use it. If the new feature that roll out from Sony and Google with an update is not necessary and attracting to me,I don't change my phone to other brand.
Who cares what OS version you got? Unless there is a bug or something, I don't care if I ever get any updates. I would even prefer the older version now since they messed up the notification screen.
To be honest, Jellybean is stable enough so that we don't necesarily "need" further updates. I'm "suck" on 4.1.2 on my optimus g and don't really mind at all(And yes, LG is worse at abandoning their flagships). Got kit kat on my nexus 7 and don't really see much difference. I miss the great sony UI though. Still torn between this phone and the z1.
I buy phone - start to see if everything works - root - flash custom rom. Never worries about updates.
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And tell me what features of 4.4 you so desperately need having just 4.3 ? I understand the importance of an update, but on the other and I think people exaggerate the need for them a lot...
So to answer the question - no, i'm not afraid. Frankly speaking, I don't really care, as long as it won't take a year or so.
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And tell me what features of 4.4 you so desperately need having just 4.3 ?
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A pretty major update in 4.4 for devices with on-screen buttons, like the Xperia series, is "immersive mode" (http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...go-truly-full-screen-hide-the-navigation-bar/). There are other nice updates, and maybe that one doesn't interest you, but to me it's a big deal. You never know when Google is going to throw a great new feature like that in.
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I've used Sony (Ericsson) phones for years. Late updates are a condition you either live with or jump ship. Sony has always been notoriously late with update releases.
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What? Worse than Samsung?
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http://www.techtimes.com/articles/7...xus-7-is-reportedly-not-getting-android-m.htm
Just saw this, not sure if this news is reliable but that would kind of suck..
Far from credible. Honestly if it doesn't come from Google or Android Police don't beleve it. Actually don't even trust Google just AP.
Someone sent us a tip saying “goodbye Nexus 7, no Android M for you”, and they also said they are close to the Android M development...
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Thats the source lol.
I can see maybe the 2012 nexus 7 being dropped from M update.
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Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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The nexus 7 2012 is fine but if google stops updating the 2013 version I'm gonna bust their asses my Xperia Z1 from 2013 even has a chance of getting M...
atm android 5.1.1 still sucks on my N7 so I hoped that M would fix my issues!
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vkk178 said:
Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
I'm not very concerned. Even if Google doesn't give us the update, it probably won't be very long before CyanogenMod comes out with it. I'm willing to bet that this tablet continues to get community support for another couple of years.
Without a CM Flo or deb device maintainer I doubt CM based on Android M would appear officially for us. Maybe other ROMs that have flo maintainers/devs will bring Android M to our devices after making 5.1.1 Lollipop binaries and stuff compatible with M
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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Besides the point you mentioned , Android does have other benefits ... But I was talking more in terms of Nexus devices . If high end devices & Nexus devices (from the google stable) dont get updates for longer , it would be crappy .No point investing in an expensive Nexus device..
If they stopped selling the N7 2013 in October 2014, 18 months of updates would end April 2016 I think.
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Despite rumors circulating about the chance of official M for flo, I doubt that it will be left out. After all, Google recently announced monthly updates for a list of nexus devices that includes flo. Even if those updates came only in the form of patches for L, I'm sure unofficial support will be there. Even my old galaxy nexus has unofficially made it to the latest revision of lollipop...
I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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Totally agree, 5.1.1 runs smooth on my N7 so I see no reason from a hardware perspective that the N7 shouldn't get M. I think it will be last release so lets hope its a good one.
When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
dragontology said:
When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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M developer preview was available for the nexus 5,6 and 9, unfortunately the nexus 4 didn't make the cut, as you quite rightly said, it was released in 2012, which is a bit more than the two year update garuntee
I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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Marshmallow hasn't been released so there is no AOSP Source made public from Google. ROMs will appear once Android 6.0 and it's Source Code is released (rumored by the end of this month)
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Hi everyone! I created this thread to collect any info about getting a Marshmallow update on our beloved Note PRO.
Did Sammy say anything about it?
Greetings!
Boy that would be nice for it to be updated to 6.x but I'm not holding my breath. I read an article that said our tablets are considered old and outdated as the came out Feb 2014... Nice.
FYI just updated Nexus 7 to 6.0 and it's from 2013.
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Boy that would be nice for it to be updated to 6.x but I'm not holding my breath. I read an article that said our tablets are considered old and outdated as the came out Feb 2014... Nice.
FYI just updated Nexus 7 to 6.0 and it's from 2013.
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Considering the tablet is less than two years old, and Samsung has a pretty good track record of providing OS updates during the first 2 years, I'd say chances are good. But, it'll probably be next fall when the "N" release is ready to drop. haha
With that said, the one factor that I think works against the Note Pro is the fact that it probably didn't sell very many units. It was incredibly expensive, and most people simply didn't want a tablet that big.
Time will tell.
I doubt it we haven't even got lollipop yet so the chance of marshmallow is 0%
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I doubt it we haven't even got lollipop yet so the chance of marshmallow is 0%
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Well, I got the OTA update to Lollipop (5.0) two weeks ago. I am in Poland.
So IF we'll get the 6.0, it will be probably muuuch later than anyone else. My Nexus 6 hasn't got it yet.
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I doubt it we haven't even got lollipop yet so the chance of marshmallow is 0%
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I'm not sure what you mean, I'm on 5.0.2 right now, which is lollipop. The only feature I care about on Android M is Doze. My tablet drain about 20% overnight or when not in use for a day and I feel like Doze can bring that down to 5% or less so it's comparable to Ipad's standby time. I've tried Greenify and other similar "sleep" applications and they end up not saving any battery.
Idk our hardware is quite similer to Note3 hardware which wont get M !!
Just dont get your hopes so high guys since this company wont listen or even care about us loyal customers !
Trust me i've been in a situation like this before with my Note2.
Anyway i don't use my tablet as a social media device as they are the most reason to drain battery so quickly especially viber also turn off location completly.
So i really dont care about google so called doze or whatever sorcery they keep throwing at us as some marketing s**t !!!
Kohrok said:
I doubt it we haven't even got lollipop yet so the chance of marshmallow is 0%
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I'm on 5.1.1 from Samsung on my Verizon Note Pro.
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I'm not sure what you mean, I'm on 5.0.2 right now, which is lollipop. The only feature I care about on Android M is Doze. My tablet drain about 20% overnight or when not in use for a day and I feel like Doze can bring that down to 5% or less so it's comparable to Ipad's standby time. I've tried Greenify and other similar "sleep" applications and they end up not saving any battery.
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If you are sure that there is no app eating your power, I'm pretty sure that you have a defective battery that you should consider to substitute.
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Well, I got the OTA update to Lollipop (5.0) two weeks ago. I am in Poland.
So IF we'll get the 6.0, it will be probably muuuch later than anyone else. My Nexus 6 hasn't got it yet.
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Still on 4.4.2 here in the UK so no we still havnt recieved lollipop yet and 2 weeks ago Andriod L was realesed a year ago most google devices are using marshmallow now If you take Samsungs time scale as a factor google will have upgraded all there machines to 8.0 by the time we would recieve 6.0, so like I said I doubt very much they will upgrade an old tablet that didn't sell well to Marshmallow. If by some miracle they do, it will be 2 years out of date so again no real point to.
I've been researching about an update for my Verizon p905v for several days now because I switched to T-Mobile a few months ago and they don't sell this tablet so I didn't trade it in. I just added it to my account and put T-Mobile's sum card in it but the tablet won't recognize the sun card and still thinks it's a Verizon tablet, but that's off topic, just said that to explain why I couldn't update through the settings. Anyway, through Kies I was able to update to 5.1.1 a week or two ago. I read somewhere why researching this that the p905v WILL be getting the 6.0 update! It listed a few Samsung devices and the Note Pro 12.2 was the last one on the list to be getting it. I'll try to find where I read that and post a link here if I can find it again. FYI, you can't judge the update or timeline by comparing to any Nexus device, that site also said all Nexus devices will get the update first since they are Google devices. Hope this helps answer some questions, again I'll post a link to that site if I can find it.
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I've been researching about an update for my Verizon p905v for several days now because I switched to T-Mobile a few months ago and they don't sell this tablet so I didn't trade it in. I just added it to my account and put T-Mobile's sum card in it but the tablet won't recognize the sun card and still thinks it's a Verizon tablet, but that's off topic, just said that to explain why I couldn't update through the settings. Anyway, through Kies I was able to update to 5.1.1 a week or two ago. I read somewhere why researching this that the p905v WILL be getting the 6.0 update! It listed a few Samsung devices and the Note Pro 12.2 was the last one on the list to be getting it. I'll try to find where I read that and post a link here if I can find it again. FYI, you can't judge the update or timeline by comparing to any Nexus device, that site also said all Nexus devices will get the update first since they are Google devices. Hope this helps answer some questions, again I'll post a link to that site if I can find it.
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Verizon is CDMA and TMobile is GSM. The two are not compatible. It will not work unless the tablet has both radios. Not sure if the note PRO has a GSM radio. If it does, then you will need to turn the radio on. Probably by loading a custom ROM.
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Well, I got the OTA update to Lollipop (5.0) two weeks ago. I am in Poland.
So IF we'll get the 6.0, it will be probably muuuch later than anyone else. My Nexus 6 hasn't got it yet.
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if you check firmwares and countries , you will see that the 100% samsung is not updated while the "sponsorshiped" one is updated...
i discovered that with a generic 4g sm-p905 that is "registered" south-africa-unlocked...
Maybe some people will gonna cook M rom as custom rom. Anyway, i beleive, not many people know what is new in new version of apps, iOS, they just want be one step back. "New version of .........." they click next, next, like a secreteary in offce with computer.
i think you mean a word i created , in french , that is "MesFessesAussi" , translatable by " My A$$ Too" . that sounds like M$Office and targets those dumb&lazy Girls...cool joke ;']
the mobile is my first one and mostly for GPS , but i never take again any G8gle-Android or samsung product .
this is pure **** for os and drivers updates , plus warranty . samsung being the biggest mother****er i have ever seen , it forces users to buy its products with its os where no drivers can be added ...and all is using free code....
G8gle being not "aware" of the way its "os" is used and delivered to customers...sucks as well as the chinese or even more...[ i understand why chromeos had no success...]
they are BANKSTER$ , turning something well working and free into a private and :silly: thingies..
to sum it : android by samsung is like posting a reply here with "g8gle chrome" : IMPOSSIBLE
when it come to check the "Robotologie"...image Verification pop-up not showing....Verification expired...
android - g8gle$a$$ung too : bunch of has-been
posted with FireFox...the one that made browsing the web free : POSSIBLE...
beside that : anyone uses the addblock-browser made for android$ ?
addblock , a nice extention that makes browsing " free of g8gle"$ add$ "....
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Boy that would be nice for it to be updated to 6.x but I'm not holding my breath. I read an article that said our tablets are considered old and outdated as the came out Feb 2014... Nice.
FYI just updated Nexus 7 to 6.0 and it's from 2013.
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I just bought the galaxy note pro 12.2, barely used for a good price. Even thought it's old, it should do what I need. I would hope to get at least 3 years out of it and the update to marshmallow would be nice. This is my first samsung tablet. I had previous iPad. Is it not likely Samsung will update this tablet? What's the big difference between lollipop and marshmallow anyway? Maybe it won't really matter.
Everyone tells me I should buy the iPad pro instead because of newer tech.
I think that the only way we will get Marshmallow for this tablet is if a dev cooks it up for us. I'm also wondering why there is no news of a new version of this table (or any Note tablet) in the works. I'm wondering if Samsung has abandoned the Note series of tablets. If they have that would be a shame. I use an iPhone, but the handwriting and multi-screen are of importance to me (so no change to an iPad).
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I think that the only way we will get Marshmallow for this tablet is if a dev cooks it up for us. I'm also wondering why there is no news of a new version of this table (or any Note tablet) in the works. I'm wondering if Samsung has abandoned the Note series of tablets. If they have that would be a shame. I use an iPhone, but the handwriting and multi-screen are of importance to me (so no change to an iPad).
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I too am wondering why there isn't news of a new tablet. I was in the market for one, and didn't want another iPad. I have an iMac as my computer, but don't like apples phones so have galaxy note 3 and thought my iPad was limited in function so wanted a galaxy tab. I had to buy used. I know with CES being around the corner, if there is something in the works, they should announce it then. But I couldn't wait. I hope to at least get 2 years out of the note pro.
if nothing else, maybe someone will make a cyanogenmod 13 rom for it. that would be really nice.
Techradar marshmellow
"Android Marshmallow update: when can I get it?"
They mention the note pro.
I think it is a good idea for Samsung to do this asap as the market for large screen stylus powered devices is growing quickly with the iPad pro and tablet 4. The already with the note pro have a foothold device in that sector so they can launch off the back of it. Keeping the note pro relevant is important for now.
BTW, I've used both the iPad pro and windows 4 tab at work and still prefer the Note pro 12.2 even though it is a year old and less powerful. At the price point of the Note pro it is a fantastic device.