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I (along with other people) find it weird that Asus chose to mount the sdcard to /Removable/MicroSD instead of the traditional /mnt/sdcard.
I would like Titanium Backup to store the files on my sdcard instead of the internal memory, but the problem is that TI only checks the /mnt/sdcard directory. So in my infinite geek knowledge I had the idea to symlink /Removable/MicroSD/TitaniumBackup to /mnt/sdcard/TitaniumBackup. The problem is that FAT32 doesn't support symlinks, so I formatted the sdcard to NTFS and popped it back in but it wouldn't mount it, which I realized was because it doesn't have the NTFS modules. So I popped it back out and formatted it as ext2, but it still wouldn't mount automatically and I couldn't mount it manually because I didn't know what the device name was.
Anyone have any solutions?

You can try ask the developer of TitaniumBackup to include support for asus TF.

Obviously I already did that but I'm looking for a fix on my end.

As with most other tablets, the internal SD is mounted to mnt/sdcard so external SD has to be mounted elsewhere.
As far as TB goes, you can choose where to store backups. Have currently got it setup to backup to Removable/MicroSD/TitaniumBackup
EDIT: If you go into TB preferences menu, scroll down to Backup folder location, then press the Back icon (the system one) to get back to the root folder. Then you can choose the Removable/MicroSD/ folder. Click on "create a new folder", call it what you want, then open that folder. Click the "Use current folder" button and there you go...Backup folder on external SD!
Took me a while to realise that the back icon took you back up the folder tree, rather than closing the folder location window!

It would be nice if we could get a custom mount script or something that would mount the sdcard to something like /mnt/sdcard/music. I'd love to have my music synced to card and everything else stored internally...

fisha21 said:
EDIT: If you go into TB preferences menu, scroll down to Backup folder location, then press the Back icon (the system one) to get back to the root folder. Then you can choose the Removable/MicroSD/ folder. Click on "create a new folder", call it what you want, then open that folder. Click the "Use current folder" button and there you go...Backup folder on external SD!
Took me a while to realise that the back icon took you back up the folder tree, rather than closing the folder location window!
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Thanks! Thats what I needed to know, I was thinking its kind of stupid that they only have a "detect" button.

brando56894 said:
I (along with other people) find it weird that Asus chose to mount the sdcard to /Removable/MicroSD instead of the traditional /mnt/sdcard.
I would like Titanium Backup to store the files on my sdcard instead of the internal memory, but the problem is that TI only checks the /mnt/sdcard directory. So in my infinite geek knowledge I had the idea to symlink /Removable/MicroSD/TitaniumBackup to /mnt/sdcard/TitaniumBackup. The problem is that FAT32 doesn't support symlinks, so I formatted the sdcard to NTFS and popped it back in but it wouldn't mount it, which I realized was because it doesn't have the NTFS modules. So I popped it back out and formatted it as ext2, but it still wouldn't mount automatically and I couldn't mount it manually because I didn't know what the device name was.
Anyone have any solutions?
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What? You're doing it backwards!
If TI is writing to /mnt/sdcard/TitaniumBackup, but you want it to write to /Removable/MicroSD/TitaniumBackup instead, then /mnt/sdcard/TitaniumBackup should be the symlink, pointing to a directory on the SD card!
The target's filesystem doesn't matter (fat32), only the source's (i.e. ext4 on the internal storage).

Good catch, either way it doesn't matter now because I don't need symlinks since I know how to do it in TB now.

p-3113 Swap ExternalSDCard 2 Internal

Here's a script I modified originally its a script written by mattiadj so I gotta give him props
Here's his thread its for the Galaxy S III I think - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1772234
This will make your external SDcard as Internal and your Internal SDCard external
It mounts data/media to your extSdcard
Please make a backup before you do this, just in case.
Let me know if you have any problems
1. Anyway.. you will need to place this script in your /data folder (Yes you need to be rooted)
2. Next use ES file manager and give it 777 permission (For the non-linux users, that's full permission on it, Read, write, execute for just user)
-----------------to do this with ES file manager just press and hold down on the file and look at its properties. At the bottom you can see Permissions, hit the Change button and check-mark everything for user
3. Use Smamager (Download it if you dont have it, ... .its free) and goto the script file and open as script/execute, then when it opens choose "Is executable" and then click "Su" & "Boot". Click "Save".
4. Reboot and enjoy.
To go back to the normal setup just delete the script or open it back up in smanager and clear the SU & Boot options.
In order for some apps to function properly you will have to copy some folders from your old internal sdcard to your "New" one.
For example.. aptoide wouldnt work until the aptoide repos folder was copied over. If you want you can just copy over everything to be safe. I on the other hand just picked and chose what I needed

xalien8dx said:
2. Next use ES file manager and give it 777 permission (For the non-linux users, that's full permission on it, Read, write, execute for everyone)
-----------------to do this with ES file manager just press and hold down on the file and look at its properties. At the bottom you can see Permissions, hit the Change button and check-mark everything
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IMO, this is terrible advice. The script is probably getting run as root, and you're opening it up to be written by anyone. Imagine if malware edited the script? Think of what malware could do if it had root access...
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 2

imnuts said:
IMO, this is terrible advice. The script is probably getting run as root, and you're opening it up to be written by anyone. Imagine if malware edited the script? Think of what malware could do if it had root access...
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 2
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Changed it to just user read, write, execute..
thanks

So, after this what happens to the internal SdCard. Does it, or is it still being used, and if so for what...?

^ same ? and has anyone tested this and is it safe?

All this is is a modded script from mattiadj. It was written for the GS3, so I changed it to work on the 3113 tablet
Here is what it does quoted from mattiadj
My aim was to use the external sd as internal sd and the original internal sd ONLY for apps installation.
So now my 64gb external sd is used for all tasks which the internal sd was used and the original internal sd is only used for apps storage!! All extra files (resources, caches, etc etc) are stored in my external SD, which is now mounted as internal
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The original internal sdcard is mounted by default from the system as /data/media as well as /sdcard and mnt/sdcard
so with this script it puts data/media as extSDCard and /sdcard and /mnt/sdcard are mounted to the original external SDcard
you can still access the internal SDcard from data/media or /extSDCard or mnt/extSDcard
my code
Code:
sleep 5
mount -o remount,rw /
mount -t vfat -o umask=0000 /dev/block/vold/179:25 /mnt/sdcard
sleep 5
mount -o bind /data/media /mnt/extSdCard
this can be easily modified to work on other systems.
Hope this helps,
N8

Tried this out last night. For me it works only if run manually... After reboot, I get long "checking SD for errors" and when it actually mounts SD it gets mounted twice- as both internal sdcard and extSdCard.
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I ran this with SCript Manager (Play Store) and it works great on my p3113. My External SD card was mounted as internal and my Internal Memory was mounted as ExternalSDcard. I am going to love having this script!

If your having problems with it mounting as your internal and external try unmounting/remounting your external card in settings under storage. Or if your skilled enough try changing the second sleep value in the script to a higher number like 10 that should fix it

Works famously. For the apps that have issues just clear data under settings and it seems to be golden.
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I haven't done anything quite like this before but I have a use in mind. My GPS program, Sygic, puts the mapset on the internal sd card. Just the Western USA states are 500 mb If I get this running, and have Sygic do it's normal install, will the mapset to to the 32 GB MicroSD card that I have?

king200 said:
I haven't done anything quite like this before but I have a use in mind. My GPS program, Sygic, puts the mapset on the internal sd card. Just the Western USA states are 500 mb If I get this running, and have Sygic do it's normal install, will the mapset to to the 32 GB MicroSD card that I have?
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It should. For example, I use Amazon MP3 and when I downloaded a song before they went to the internal card. Now they are stored on the external. The device reads your external as though it is the internal.
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so is there Anyway on how to force this to start on boot?
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kdog48 said:
so is there Anyway on how to force this to start on boot?
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Yes
in script manager choose su and boot. If you follow the first post it will execute on boot. Or if you have a rom with init.d support place this script in your /etc/init.d folder, I dont have a rom with init.d support so I dont know if that would work but it should. If someone could test this and let me know I would appreciate it. Im not sure if you still have to set permissions to execute on it.

Well I've had problems downloading certain apps to SD it says insufficient memory delete 0mb of data so I actually will just manually use it haha
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Working 100% using a 32GB memory card! thanks for this!

hi guys
is applicable to 2 10.1 GalaxyTab P5100?
requires Android 4.1.1 or 4.0.4. ?
Thank you.

If this works, I will name my next born child after you!
Anyway, I would like to know if this will work on Cyangenmod 9.0.0? Or will it only work on the stock rom. I have my old stock rom of 4.0.4 saved if I need to go back... because I will if this works.

does root explorer have the 'su boot' option? never used it to run scripts...:silly:

I already used the thank link... but stilll thank you so, so much! I just recently got my 8gb 3113... needless to say, I REALLY needed some space. If any, it was a good lesson for me to definitely choose the 16GB Nexus 4.
MadDogE134 said:
does root explorer have the 'su boot' option? never used it to run scripts...:silly:
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It's from SManager.

Can someone explain the file system locations to me?

So I'm coming from the Evo LTE and file folders seem to be in a different place... I was hoping someone could explain it to me.
I'm rooted and using astro:
If I back out all the way I'm in My files (root?)
There are folders here called "sdcard" and "storage"
If I go into "storage" I see the following directories:
emulated
extsdcard
sdcard0
usbdrivea
usbdriveb
usbdrivec
usbdrived
usbdrivee
usbdrivef
programs seem to install themselves into both "sdcard" but also into any subfolder of "storage" (excluding extsdcard.. which I've determined is my actual sd card). I can't seem to figure out the rhythm or reason behind this
The reason all this is brought to my attention is I just emailed myself an apk which I saved from the gmail app... now I can't find where it saved it to
Thanks in advance for any help!

There are symlinks all over the place, some of it relates to multi-user capability (mainly for tablets). Here's how I understand it.
/storage/UsbDrive[A-F] - These are for when you hook up your device to a OTG cable/dongle, which allows you to connect USB flash drives or USB hard drives to your phone.
/storage/extSdCard - This is your external SD card.
/storage/emulated/legacy - This structure is linked for backwards compatibility to different locations (/mnt/shell/emulated/0). This is actually your internal SD card.
/storage/sdcard0 - This is your internal SD card - symlinked to /storage/emulated/legacy.
You may also be familiar with:
/sdcard - This is your internal SD card - symlinked to /storage/emulated/legacy.
You may also see a "0" in there -- that means user "0", which is the primary user of the phone. Additional users will only see their own SD card items and would be labeled "1", "2", "3", etc.
Using the "old" Android naming conventions, I access my SD cards as follows:
Internal SD card - /mnt/sdcard (or just /sdcard)
External SD card - /mnt/extSdCard
To answer your question -- I believe Gmail saves your attachments to the "Download" directory, which should be at /mnt/sdcard/Download.
Hope this helps!
pdappcgeek said:
So I'm coming from the Evo LTE and file folders seem to be in a different place... I was hoping someone could explain it to me.
I'm rooted and using astro:
If I back out all the way I'm in My files (root?)
There are folders here called "sdcard" and "storage"
If I go into "storage" I see the following directories:
emulated
extsdcard
sdcard0
usbdrivea
usbdriveb
usbdrivec
usbdrived
usbdrivee
usbdrivef
programs seem to install themselves into both "sdcard" but also into a subfolder of "storage" (excluding extsdcard). I can't seem to figure out the rhythm or reason behind this
The reason all this is brought to my attention is I just emailed myself an apk which I saved from the gmail app... now I can't find where it saved it to
Thanks in advance for any help!
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[Q] (Blefish 0516) How to forbid app created file/folder in ext-SD root directory ?

Thank Blefish first ,with your contribution to U8800 ,so we users can enjoy the Kitkat.
I have learned that Kitkat will forbid app create file/folder in ext-SD root directory,instead apps can only created their data in /Sdcad/Android.So my Sdcard directory will be tidy.
When I installed Blefish 0516 edition,I found the feature didn't work.
And I found in dir ./storage , ext-SD was mounted as Sdcard0 while the internal storage was mounted as Sdcard1.I think the irregular mounted sequence between ext-Sd and internal storage is the reason why the feature didn't work.
And I didn't found vold.fstab in ./system/etc , so I can't edit it to change the mount seq.
Dear Blefish guru,I am looking for your help~

Jellybean and forward use a different method now. They are not using vold.fstab anymore. Rather, /fstab.qcom is used (in our phone). It cannot be edited manually, a boot.img must be unpacked and repacked in order to do so.
Did you mention that apps can write to /sdcard/ but cannot write to /storage/sdcard0? This ROM does not enforce write permissions as KitKat does by default, so I am not quite sure.

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Jellybean and forward use a different method now. They are not using vold.fstab anymore. Rather, /fstab.qcom is used (in our phone). It cannot be edited manually, a boot.img must be unpacked and repacked in order to do so.
Did you mention that apps can write to /sdcard/ but cannot write to /storage/sdcard0? This ROM does not enforce write permissions as KitKat does by default, so I am not quite sure.
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Two days after installed 0516,many folders were created by apps in ext-SD root directory(./storage/sdcard0/),while only two folders were found in internal storage(./storage/sdcard1/).And it seems that the two folders were somthing like being created while using recovery or something like that,unlikely being created by apps.
Cause I am using another rom to find whether the seq between internal and ext-SD is normal,yet I found that in android 4.0.4 there is no ./storage,so I cannot know the seq between internal and ext-SD.

zhuld.lord said:
Two days after installed 0516,many folders were created by apps in ext-SD root directory(./storage/sdcard0/),while only two folders were found in internal storage(./storage/sdcard1/).And it seems that the two folders were somthing like being created while using recovery or something like that,unlikely being created by apps.
Cause I am using another rom to find whether the seq between internal and ext-SD is normal,yet I found that in android 4.0.4 there is no ./storage,so I cannot know the seq between internal and ext-SD.
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In my ROM external SD (/storage/sdcard0) is the primary storage. This means Android creates it's Pictures, Download, Music & other directories there automatically.
/storage/sdcard1 is just a storage, like USB OTG storage would be. It's not in use if sdcard0 is present (some apps can still write to it manually like Camera).
The /storage is another jb/kk feature. I did not go with the older direct mounting to /mnt/ because it's just deprecated. Mine is configured according to this (Nexus One with internal storage added manually): http://source.android.com/devices/tech/storage/config-example.html

Blefish said:
In my ROM external SD (/storage/sdcard0) is the primary storage. This means Android creates it's Pictures, Download, Music & other directories there automatically.
/storage/sdcard1 is just a storage, like USB OTG storage would be. It's not in use if sdcard0 is present (some apps can still write to it manually like Camera).
The /storage is another jb/kk feature. I did not go with the older direct mounting to /mnt/ because it's just deprecated. Mine is configured according to this (Nexus One with internal storage added manually):
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Thanks for so detailed reply.
But I still don't understand how to enforce write permission.As a perfectionist , I really don't want to see so many folders created by third-party apps in my ext-SD.
If it is convenient for you,could you inform me the way to enable the write permission in your rom? :fingers-crossed:

i can't get foldermount to work? on a rooted nvidia shield

i want to mount the data/obb folder to my sd card..
can anyone advise?
within foldermount, i can put in the name, but i can't scroll down...to put in the source and location
maybe i am doing it wrong
- follow some guide, i assumed it would copy an entire directory. you have do it manually

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kyrusdemnati said:
i want to mount the data/obb folder to my sd card..
can anyone advise?
within foldermount, i can put in the name, but i can't scroll down...to put in the source and location
maybe i am doing it wrong
- follow some guide, i assumed it would copy an entire directory. you have do it manually
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can you use folder mount to mount to an external hard drive or just to SD?