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Has T-mobile killed the no contract plans?

cant seem to find the no annual contract plans on their website
all i see is the no contract web / data plan

you have to call to get it, they have removed it from the web.
It means the signs are up it won't be available soon

this kind of sucks
i was looking forward to getting one once my contract with ATT was over. Oh well

You can still do it in store. Just go to your local tmobile store.
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Chalup said:
You can still do it in store. Just go to your local tmobile store.
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His contract with AT&T might be up by the time the TMO completely pulls it off the shelf

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His contract with AT&T might be up by the time the TMO completely pulls it off the shelf
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exactly. Thats what im expecting

Yes the no contract plans known now as flex pay are on their way out. I recently did an online survey on this. Looks like the same plans will be offered as those on contract with an added feature of being able to set overage limits. If you don't want to pay for extra monthly minutes you can set it up to shut off your service when you reach your max. If you want to be able to go a little over you'll be. Able to set a dollar amount. Of course the only info I have comes from a consumer survey.
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explodingboy70 said:
Yes the no contract plans known now as flex pay are on their way out. I recently did an online survey on this. Looks like the same plans will be offered as those on contract with an added feature of being able to set overage limits. If you don't want to pay for extra monthly minutes you can set it up to shut off your service when you reach your max. If you want to be able to go a little over you'll be. Able to set a dollar amount. Of course the only info I have comes from a consumer survey.
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I think he is talking about EM+ plans, not flex pay.

FCC Proposes Rules to Help Mobile Phone Users Avoid "Bill Shock".
This is coming from ALL phone service providers in planning of the FCC Limit sticker shock Bill, this will be god for all.
FCC Proposes Rules to Help Mobile Phone Users Avoid "Bill Shock".
http://www.9wsyr.com/content/news/real_deal/story/FCC-proposal-aims-to-limit-bill-shock/UYFrV0Ip6US-wZClVPDHSA.cspx
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-302192A1.doc
http://www.fcc.gov/headlines.html

This pan can now be only by phone or store. Tmobile removed it from Th re to avoid confusion
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EM+ is the only reason I'm on t-mobile. If they get rid of it, I'm gone.
Really sad. Between this and three tethering thing tmo is looking much less attractive.
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Sprint offering $125 to people to switch carriers

Hey Sprint here's an idea. How about you spend money on fixing your crappy network instead of trying to add more people and clogg your weak 3g. Go Verizon PRL
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no 3g or 4g problems where i live. my sister's verizon phone actually roams on sprint in our house, so no verizon prl for me.
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Service is great where I live .. like I said in another thread I believe they actually either started a new tower or did a upgrade me dl speed has went from 600 kbps to 1300-1800kbps so I can't complain.
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Data most definitely still sucks here, and if you're coming from VZW or AT&T considering how much their ETF is I dont see a lot of people jumping on that.

Restrictions states you have to buy the phones from Sprint...via store, online or telesales. That means you will need to wait for a mail in rebate -yuck.
One my co workers is moving to Sprint this week...I suggested she pass on this deal and get her 2 evo shifts from RS for 69.99 each.

MsRandall said:
Restrictions states you have to buy the phones from Sprint...via store, online or telesales. That means you will need to wait for a mail in rebate -yuck.
One my co workers is moving to Sprint this week...I suggested she past on this deal and get her 2 evo shifts from RS for 69.99 each.
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Why? She can save $160 by buying it from RS or $250 from Sprint. Granted MIR's do suck but hey... that's $90 more in her pocket.

What u really should tell her is to buy the HTC Thunderbolt. Better 3g. And real 4g.
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Yea 4g would be nice in my area or even 3g that is faster than dial up that's where the money needs give spent to keep long time customers happy
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verizon's prl is okay, i used to have verizon and had crappy signal in my house, once i had sprint, it was faster. but don't get me wrong, i love verizons's prl if i am out and for some reason sprint's network is slow in that certain area.

This isnt a MIR. Its a credit on your account.
GF and I got in on this deal a few weekends ago. You get $125/per line credit after 61 days AKA it shows up on your 3rd bill.

Mindspin_311 said:
This isnt a MIR. Its a credit on your account.
GF and I got in on this deal a few weekends ago. You get $125/per line credit after 61 days AKA it shows up on your 3rd bill.
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Sandy Springs ey? You're right in my backyard.

brownhornet said:
Sandy Springs ey? You're right in my backyard.
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Cool. Im off of Dunwoody place, closer to Roswell Rd than Northridge/400. You?

It's still cheaper to just active a Sprint account through Amazon. They literally charge a cent for a phone. :O

Get out of your Verizon contract

It's possible to break out of your Verizon Wireless contract in the next 60 days without paying an early termination fee because they're increasing the "regulatory fee" they charge customers from $.13 to $.16. This is what is known as a "materially adverse change of contract" and by standard contract law, it renders the contract void if one of the parties doesn't like the change.
More information at Fatwallet and consumerist.com.
Hope this helps

Yes thanks. I read that on phandroid yesterday, have been thinking about it.

mailaliasgar said:
It's possible to break out of your Verizon Wireless contract in the next 60 days without paying an early termination fee because they're increasing the "regulatory fee" they charge customers from $.13 to $.16. This is what is known as a "materially adverse change of contract" and by standard contract law, it renders the contract void if one of the parties doesn't like the change.
More information at Fatwallet and consumerist.com.
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So a few questions if anyone has gone this route in the past:
What is the process to follow to do this? Do you just walk in and ask to be let out of your contract?
Are there any negative consequences if you decide in the future to go back to Verizon?
If you break the contract, can you remain with VZW until you purchase another phone/plan from someone else (Sprint)?

Dumb question. but if you do this can you sighn up for another 2 year contract for the discount on a new phone.
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Jmatch said:
Dumb question. but if you do this can you sighn up for another 2 year contract for the discount on a new phone.
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Breaking the ETF does not entitle you to an upgrade on your equipment. So basically you would have to start a new line of service if you do not have an upgrade. This means losing your current mobile number, and possibly paying additional activation fees/pro-ration on your next bill. If you do not care about losing your current mobile number, I say go for it.
The primary benefit I see in this is if you are already planning on switching carriers, and are currently under contract.

Monthly bill with verizion is getting too much for me especially since a lot of my family members are wishing to get smartphones.
This will be useful for me as I do not wish to pay 600 dollar to end the contract of 4 phones.

I did this yesterday. It took five minutes and was probably the easiest call I had with Verizon ever. I'm glad I don't have to give them another cent. I was told I wouldn't be able to continue paying month by month on the line but I'm not sure about signing another agreement. I wouldn't be surprised if they denied you.
Anyone want to buy a Fascinate?

Smeed said:
I did this yesterday. It took five minutes and was probably the easiest call I had with Verizon ever. I'm glad I don't have to give them another cent. I was told I wouldn't be able to continue paying month by month on the line but I'm not sure about signing another agreement. I wouldn't be surprised if they denied you.
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Could you shed some lights on your conversation? eg how you started and what did they say?
Thanks

I called and went straight to retention (I can't remember if I called the usual customer support number or the 1-888 number on the bill but either way it shouldn't matter). A woman picked up and I said I'd like to cancel my cell service because of the increase in the Regulatory Charge. She asked if they were indeed raising the price so I read the "Notice of Change To Regulatory Charge" from my bill. She asked when I received notice of this and I told her it was on my current bill. She asked if there was anyone else I'd rather just transfer the line to, I said no. Somehow I ended up reading her the bold part from the second paragraph below. She asked me if I was planning on taking the number to a different carrier, I said yes. She told me the ETF would show up on my bill with a credit, the line was being disconnected (I assume at the end of the current billing cycle) and that I'd be unable to continue paying month by month on that line because of how I was canceling.
I don't recall her even talking to a supervisor. I had the following copied straight from the user agreement just in case though.
An hour later I left the Sprint store with my number, a $125 credit for leaving verizon and an HTC Evo 3D.
What Charges Are Set by Verizon Wireless?
You agree to pay all access, usage and other charges that you or the user of your wireless device incurred. For Postpay Service, our charges also include Federal Universal Service, Regulatory and Administrative Charges, and we may also include other charges related to our governmental costs. We set these charges; they aren't taxes, they aren't required by law, they are kept by us in whole or in part, and the amounts and what they pay for may change.
Can Verizon Wireless Change This Agreement or My Service?
We may change prices or any other term of your Service or this agreement at any time,but we'll provide notice first, including written notice if you have Postpay Service. If you use your Service after the change takes effect, that means you're accepting the change. If you're a Postpay customer and a change to your Plan or this agreement has a material adverse effect on you, you can cancel the line of Service that has been affected within 60 days of receiving the notice with no early termination fee.

anyone tried this and been able to open a new account with verizon for a new phone?
also, if I do that, any way I can keep my same number for an extra fee?
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jordanzink said:
anyone tried this and been able to open a new account with verizon for a new phone?
also, if I do that, any way I can keep my same number for an extra fee?
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I highly doubt you could. Think about it: You're canceling your account completely due to the increase. Then you try to open a new account?
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You could do this in a very roundabout way, particularly if you're not the primary line on a family plan.
If it's just you, they will make you wait at least 45 (that's what Sprint does) days (VZ could be 60 or even 75, I can't remember) days before you can sign up with them again.
If you want to save some $ and wait it out (when you come back in, you wouldn't be on unlimited, though), you could port your #(s) off to a prepaid carrier (Net10, TracFone, etc) and let it sit there while the waiting period runs out.
If you're planning on staying with Verizon, it's totally not worth it. If you've been looking to jump to Sprint (cheaper) or AT&T/T-Moble (LAWL), then it's a great time to do so.

Yeah, the only reason you should even consider doing this is if you'd been thinking about switching to Sprint at the end of your contract anyways (for the savings).
'Cause if you think Verizon is bad, just wait until you try AT&T or T-Mobile.

Looks like I am switching to sprint. OK to wait 2 weeks to do this, or will it be too late by then?
Evo 3d or epic 4g... Decisions, decisions...

PhoenixPath said:
Looks like I am switching to sprint. OK to wait 2 weeks to do this, or will it be too late by then?
Evo 3d or epic 4g... Decisions, decisions...
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I believe you have 60 days, though I don't know the start day of that 60 day period. I think I read July 1st somewhere...
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PhoenixPath said:
Evo 3d or epic 4g... Decisions, decisions...
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No competition there: the Epic 4G was meant to compete with the original Evo 4G and is thoroughly outclassed by the Evo 3D (single-core 1ghz vs. dual-core 1.2ghz, 512mb vs 1gb RAM, etc.).
The Nexus S 4G, while still a 1ghz single-core/512mb RAM device, is much newer, has some extras like NFC, and is a pure Google phone (read: instant updates) so it would be a far better second option.

Does anyone know if this took effect? I know it was scheduled for July 1st, but verizon may have found a way around it does anyone have the facts?

If I could somehow use this to get an upgrade without using my new every two upgrade, that'd be awesome. But I doubt it.
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I just got off the phone with Verizon and they said I could not cancel without paying the ETF fee. Any ideas?
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I just got off the phone with Verizon and they said I could not cancel without paying the ETF fee. Any ideas?
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Did you ask to speak with a manager? Did you read the article from OP? They give plenty of pointers in the consumerist article.....
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T-Mobile is paying for you to switch

Starting Jan 15 T-Mobile will credit your bill with up to $350 per line for switching from att or verizon.

sicmadek said:
Starting Jan 15 T-Mobile will credit your bill with up to $350 per line for switching from att or verizon.
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Source?

sicmadek said:
Starting Jan 15 T-Mobile will credit your bill with up to $350 per line for switching from att or verizon.
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If true I assume they'd require you to stay with them for some significant period of time?
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Source?
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I don't know the OP's source, but I read on Yahoo news that they would probably announce this at CES.
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The rumors is that T-mobile will pay the early termination fees (ETF) on your current contract phone from other carriers and break your current contract with them. It depends if you are in a contract and how much the ETF is.
I'm thinking this can be abused, since what if you sign up for a different carrier, get a discounted phone, then after a month, switch to t-mobile and not worry about the penalty (ETF).
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http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/12/t-mobile-uncarrier-4-0-etf.html

I think they will get a lot of business from Sprint with this.
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The only people really that would probably consider this are people from sites like this that can't unlock their boot loaders. Which is a very very small handful of people overall. Most people know nothing of development and stuff that we all are into.
Why would Joe schmoe care to do this? Unless they really hate their current carrier. They're gonna still be locked into a contract with T-Mobile.
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I know I plan on switching from Verizon to T-Mobile. Up in Boston T-Mobile has a very strong LTE signal and I would be saving about $40-$50 a month on my bill. I have a single line with Verizon. Plus I have a Moto X that's AT&T unlocked, but I also have a Verizon one that should be unlocked as well. Now just figuring out which T-Mobile plan is for me!

This would mostly help with family plans. 4 phones unlimited talk, text, and internet. 500mb of it high speed, $100. Would save me a bunch.
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The only people really that would probably consider this are people from sites like this that can't unlock their boot loaders. Which is a very very small handful of people overall. Most people know nothing of development and stuff that we all are into.
Why would Joe schmoe care to do this? Unless they really hate their current carrier. They're gonna still be locked into a contract with T-Mobile.
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T-Mobile doesn't have contracts anymore. It will be interesting to see how they deal with the potential abuse here.
For now, this deal is just a rumor, though, so any speculation is premature.

Now, AT&T is offering the same promotion:
http://www.att.com/att/switcherpromo/#fbid=qOE_f9I-AON
So switch from AT&T to T-Mobile, then back to AT&T.......profit?

I wish T-Mobile was in my area.
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Now, AT&T is offering the same promotion:
http://www.att.com/att/switcherpromo/#fbid=qOE_f9I-AON
So switch from AT&T to T-Mobile, then back to AT&T.......profit?
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How does this work? They tell you to switch from T-Mobile and get $200 "Switchers Bill Credit" before your third bill from AT&T. Then they say trade in your phone for up to $250.
Ok, well I answered my second question by actually typing this out. I was gunna ask why not just get a crappy spare phone you have lying around and trade it in for $250. They use "up to $250" so that answers that. They'd just give you a dollar or something. On to the first question: Will they enforce that you have to be coming from T-Mobile? If so, will they just make you produce a recent T-Mo bill? What would happen if you just kept "switching to them" then producing the same bill as proof?
And as you pointed out, what would prevent someone from just switching between the two a bunch and getting a bunch of money? Actually, maybe that part about getting your Switcher Credit "on or before your third AT&T Wireless bill" is how they're going to prevent that. If you're not with them anymore, they won't send you that, basically making you stay with them for at least 3 months.

Johmama said:
I wish T-Mobile was in my area.
How does this work? They tell you to switch from T-Mobile and get $200 "Switchers Bill Credit" before your third bill from AT&T. Then they say trade in your phone for up to $250.
Ok, well I answered my second question by actually typing this out. I was gunna ask why not just get a crappy spare phone you have lying around and trade it in for $250. They use "up to $250" so that answers that. They'd just give you a dollar or something. On to the first question: Will they enforce that you have to be coming from T-Mobile? If so, will they just make you produce a recent T-Mo bill? What would happen if you just kept "switching to them" then producing the same bill as proof?
And as you pointed out, what would prevent someone from just switching between the two a bunch and getting a bunch of money? Actually, maybe that part about getting your Switcher Credit "on or before your third AT&T Wireless bill" is how they're going to prevent that. If you're not with them anymore, they won't send you that, basically making you stay with them for at least 3 months.
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It's basically what T-Mobile did for business credits you have to port your number from said service provider and you don't get your credit til the 4th bill. The T-Mobile deal is only for family plans with 350$ or less in etf .
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I read somewhere it has to be a 3+ line family plan too. I'm curious to see how this pans out as I have two lines (family plan) and was strongly considering going switching to TMO as with my wife's work discount it comes out to be cheaper than Verizon (with her discount) and T-Mobile seems rather good on having the phones we want nowadays.

http://www.tmonews.com/2013/12/what...ther-carriers-early-termination-fees-covered/
Not 100% yet but likely..

There's more to it. You have trade in your phones, port your numbers and buy new phones. Now you may qualify for zero down, but you still have to pay the taxes up front and possibly $10 for each SIM card.
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I called T-Mobile and you have to trade in your phone and buy theirs. The trade in value is low and new phone price is high.
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I agree, depending on the number of lines wink also affect your upfront cost never you have to pay the taxes up front.
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Therefore it makes more sense to pay your etf by yourself and bring your phone and join the no contract plan or prepaid. Saves more money if that's your goal.
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Bye bye At&t

Thank you t-mobile
http://m.digitaltrends.com/mobile/t-mobile-announced-will-buy-away-current-carrier/
Make sure you read the "catch". You have to trade in your phone and buy theirs but it doesn't list any qualifying phones. I assume it doesn't matter which is great since I've got two captivates and an htc vivid.
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I would never go back to T-Mobile. Fug'em.
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No, thanks. T-Mobile would have to offer me a free device, for me to even entertain the thought of switching over to them. I left T-Mobile's cousin, Sprint, nearly two years ago for AT&T, and don't want to go back to inferior service and a crappy company. T-Mobile has to offer unprecedented perks such as this, to try and compensate for their supbar service. And, after talking to AT&T retentions and being loaded with goodies tonight, T-Mobile is even more dead to me, now, then they were before.

I hear the same about att though.
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They will only give you a $120 for your Note 3 from AT&T. Hardly a fair trade if you are only a year into your existing AT&T contract and would owe the reaming EFT. That would cost me $400 out of pocket to switch.

Solarenemy68 said:
They will only give you a $120 for your Note 3 from AT&T. Hardly a fair trade if you are only a year into your existing AT&T contract and would owe the reaming EFT. That would cost me $400 out of pocket to switch.
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I'm not trading in my note though. Our my s4.
Also you won't owe your etf
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Eligibility requirements from t-mobile site
What are your eligibility requirements?
In order to qualify for this ETF offer, you must be switching from a postpaid plan with AT&T, Sprint or Verizon and port your current numbers to T-Mobile. You would need to trade-in a working mobile phone or tablet and purchase a new device with T-Mobile on a qualifying postpaid Simple Choice plan (you would not be able to sign up for a T-Mobile prepaid or Simple Choice Family Plan with no credit check). All lines must be activated in the same T-Mobile market with the same billing address and area code.
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Dr. Evo said:
No, thanks. T-Mobile would have to offer me a free device, for me to even entertain the thought of switching over to them. I left T-Mobile's cousin, Sprint, nearly two years ago for AT&T, and don't want to go back to inferior service and a crappy company. T-Mobile has to offer unprecedented perks such as this, to try and compensate for their supbar service. And, after talking to AT&T retentions and being loaded with goodies tonight, T-Mobile is even more dead to me, now, then they were before.
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What goodies they give you? I am going to be calling them as well and try to get a better rate and maybe an upgrade or 2...

John Legere is brilliant. He offloaded the liability of subsidizing devices and carrying them on the balance sheet to his customers and with great theatrics convinced them his way was "better." This is kind of old but I'm sure the ratios are still valid. Over a two year span T-Mobile's cheaper than AT&T but not by as much as their fan-base wants to believe. And having to pay off a zero interest loan early if you want to leave T-Mobile without a contract is no better financially than AT&T's ETF.
I'm with the others above. I travel across the country and got tired of spinning the wheel every time I got off a plane or drove across a town I was visiting as to what kind of T-Mobile coverage and consistency I'd get for both voice and data. I pay more for AT&T and while I'm not a fan of any wireless carrier AT&T's the best of a bad lot. So T-Mobile fans keep rallying around John Legere and his "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" theatrics. At the end of the day value is determined by what you pay for what you get. With AT&T, especially taking in to account the new Mobile Share Value Plans (thanks John), I'm getting what I deem fair value and as decent a wireless product as is available in the U.S.

T-mobile is $70 unlimited everything ($1,680). $708 for the note 3 ($29.5 for 24 months).
I pay $120 + taxes each month for my wife and I with the 200 mb 700 minute plan plus the $500 dollars for the phone. The coverage map was the same in the Atlanta area so that's not gonna be problem for me.
Also, I can sell both phones for like $1,000 so this is a no-brainer for me.
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