Am getting the S4 this weekend. Have not had a phone with sdcard for awhile and when I did it was rooted and a2sd usable thru root.
I now know we can't move them on this phone at least as stock. Will not root immediately.
Question is should I hold off on signing in to Google, or any other Social media, and have my apps downloaded before I get my sdcard. Am ordering a 64gb Samsung Class 10.
I will move pics and movies later. Just not sure if any of that data would go to the card as opposed to adding to internal memory if there is no sdcard installed.
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So apparently since the android Jelly Bean update you can no longer move apps from the internal sd card to the external sd card. BULL**** (forgive my french) this is ridiculous why would they get rid of that feature? The 16gb s4 actually only has roughly 9ish gigs. That's not enough space if you download the big games nowadays. Has anybody found a workaround for this? Unfortunately you can't even use the app2sd app. I have a 32gb sd card waiting to be filled with apps so if anybody knows a workaround I would really appreciate the help! Also I would prefer not to have to root my phone.
*I have the At&t Samsung Galaxy S4 16gb model*
Download gl to SD from play store, you can move any data to external SD, just follow the directions.
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Sadly I dont think rooting can even help... the sd slot just seems like they added it so people would buy the phone atleast thats why I got this in stead of the iphone..
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SlayaDud said:
So apparently since the android Jelly Bean update you can no longer move apps from the internal sd card to the external sd card. BULL**** (forgive my french) this is ridiculous why would they get rid of that feature? The 16gb s4 actually only has roughly 9ish gigs. That's not enough space if you download the big games nowadays. Has anybody found a workaround for this? Unfortunately you can't even use the app2sd app. I have a 32gb sd card waiting to be filled with apps so if anybody knows a workaround I would really appreciate the help! Also I would prefer not to have to root my phone.
*I have the At&t Samsung Galaxy S4 16gb model*
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Here's the app that you need. Move any data to external_sd.
DirectoryBind - move data to external_sd (GameLoft, Shadowgun etc.) ROOT req.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
EDIT: OOPS!!! DirectoryBind doesn't work on 4.2.2
(I'm still using it on my S2 w/Gingerbread. Waiting on the 32gb or 64gb S4.)
Have to use this instead:
[APP][ROOT] FolderMount - Link folders from internal SD to external to free space
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192122
Thats because they're installed to it automatically. Before when you moved to sd the apps moved from inernal to internal sd card, which is where apps installed on the s4. Ext-sd is your memory card you insert on back of phone. Stock app manager has never been able to move apps to ext-sd only sd card. Titanium back up and other apps can though. So remeber if you inserted a sd card in back you have three storage places. Internal, internal sd, ext-sd. Apps install to the 16 gig automatically on the s4.
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Thats because they're installed to it automatically. Before when you moved to sd the apps moved from inernal to internal sd card, which is where apps installed on the s4. Ext-sd is your memory card you insert on back of phone. Stock app manager has never been able to move apps to ext-sd only sd card. Titanium back up and other apps can though. So remeber if you inserted a sd card in back you have three storage places. Internal, internal sd, ext-sd. Apps install to the 16 gig automatically on the s4.
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OK, I'm not a full-on geek (e.g. I do not want to root my device), still I'm pretty savvy, but I don't understand what you've said here.
I just updated from a Samsung Stratosphere (Android 2.3.6) to Stratosphere 2 (4.1.2), so I'm now acclimating to JellyBean.
I moved my SD card from the Strat to the Strat 2 and can see in the File Manager the sdcard0 and the exSdCard.
You are saying that in addition to my inserting an actual, physical SD card, there is both internal storage and additional built-in storage (sdcard0)?
Three separate storage areas?
The "main" internal is for the OS?
The built-in SD is for apps?
And my additional external SD is for data (e.g. video, music, etc.?)
I'm confused because, while the phone is still zipping along smoothly, Settings/Storage is telling me that, in 24 hours, I've already gobbled up 4.3 GB of my 8 GB device memory, > 3 GB of this being "miscellaneous" files.
Meanwhile, my application mgr tells me I have used 1.1 GB with 3.7 GB remaining.
Mind you, I am not a heavy app user (e.g. Evernote, my bank's app, NY Times, Dropbox, a few simple games), so what took a 3 GB chomp of my internal memory. For the life of me, I can't remember how I did it, but I did move all "consumer" data (e.g. documents, video, photos, etc.) to be stored on the extSD but, in 24 hours, I don't have that much to store.
Bottom line, are we non-rooters slaves to the internal (SD?) memory for our apps?
Hi, i recently got a galaxy s4 that was already on kitkat when i got it.
It didnt come with a micro sd card so i decided to buy a 32gb card from amazon.
I recieved the micro sd card in the post today, put it straight into my galaxy, tried to move music from the phone to the sd card through astro file manager but it came up with a write failed error!?!
I was reading today that it has something to do with the kitkat update? Is this true?
I see it as pointless having a phone with expandable storage capabilities but due to the heavy touchwiz you only have a 9 gb device.
I dont have a computer at the moment and was wondering if there was any work around to getting my files from my phone to the sd card?
Sorry if this has been asked a lot but i just got my s4 so a bit late to the party.
Thanks for any info given
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This is fixable if you're rooted. Go to the Play Store and download SD Card Fix. Run it to modify the system file which controls read/write access to the card.
If that doesn't solve the problem, then either the card or the slot is damaged.
P.S. If you're not rooted, it is possible to root without needing a PC using Mobile Odin, but using a PC may be a better option.
dazza_84 said:
Hi, i recently got a galaxy s4 that was already on kitkat when i got it.
It didnt come with a micro sd card so i decided to buy a 32gb card from amazon.
I recieved the micro sd card in the post today, put it straight into my galaxy, tried to move music from the phone to the sd card through astro file manager but it came up with a write failed error!?!
I was reading today that it has something to do with the kitkat update? Is this true?
I see it as pointless having a phone with expandable storage capabilities but due to the heavy touchwiz you only have a 9 gb device.
I dont have a computer at the moment and was wondering if there was any work around to getting my files from my phone to the sd card?
Sorry if this has been asked a lot but i just got my s4 so a bit late to the party.
Thanks for any info given
Take care
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Use Stock File Manager should be fine...
Thanks for ur replies, i tried using the stock file manager and its done the trick. Thanks very much for ur help
So after 3 years of stock on my n900a I flashed 4.4.2 and rooted using towel root, and remounted my SD and imported my pics, installed exposed and other stuff, I was uninstalling bloat ware and fond that my SD wasn't being use so i push some apps and it stayed the same size so I looked at the partition data and saw two SD locations one in the on board and the real SD card, and the application manger pushes to the fake SD card making the 64GB card useless.
The Fake SD is storage/emulated/legacy, Size 21.5gb s same as the free space on board.
The Real SDis storage/extSdCard 59.7gb the reaming space on the SD.
The Two dirs have all most the same layout.
I have screen shots but the ten post thing wont let me paste them.
Thanks,
Suggest your phones forum is the place to ask .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att
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watsonad2000 said:
So after 3 years of stock on my n900a I flashed 4.4.2 and rooted using towel root, and remounted my SD and imported my pics, installed exposed and other stuff, I was uninstalling bloat ware and fond that my SD wasn't being use so i push some apps and it stayed the same size so I looked at the partition data and saw two SD locations one in the on board and the real SD card, and the application manger pushes to the fake SD card making the 64GB card useless.
The Fake SD is storage/emulated/legacy, Size 21.5gb s same as the free space on board.
The Real SDis storage/extSdCard 59.7gb the reaming space on the SD.
The Two dirs have all most the same layout.
I have screen shots but the ten post thing wont let me paste them.
Thanks,
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The issue was with an sd card fixer that was redirecting the sd cards dir. To fix it you need to back up card ad phone then factory reset then shutdown, vol up+Home+pwr then refomate/wipe data, then flash your rom and reinstall any thing you need from google or back up and root.
Whats he best/easiest way to replace my sd card. At the moment it is a 64 gb and I'm upgrading to a faster Samsung 128GB. The current card is formatted as internal memory. I can easily move/ delete/backup some files to a pc. I'm wondering about app files and data that might be n the sd card if I just reformat it as a media card as someone suggested
Thanks.
You must first change the card to external, the phone will move all the system files for you. If you don't have enough room on the internal to do this you will just have to temporarily move pictures video and music to a pc/cloud/usb etc.
Once you have it set to external just swap them over, do not take the SD out while set as internal.
I thought as much. Thanks kudos1uk for confirmation.
kudos1uk said:
You must first change the card to external, the phone will move all the system files for you. If you don't have enough room on the internal to do this you will just have to temporarily move pictures video and music to a pc/cloud/usb etc.
Once you have it set to external just swap them over, do not take the SD out while set as internal.
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Hi All,
I am having same issue now. I want to replace my 32GB with 64GB card. Firstly, HOW do you change the card to external? There is no option doing anything like this. I can only see option to format the card as internal, which means all data will be lost.
For some reasons, i can copy the files from the 32GB out via USB to PC, but if took out the 32GB and put in the 64GB and format as internal, i have no way to access it or put the files back into the card.
Does it have something to do with formatting? Initially i format my 64GB to exFAT, but after putting into the phone, i formatted it again as required by the phone which i assume it will be formatted to whatever that is compatible by the phone.
All i want to do is to migrate the stuff on my old sdcard to my new sdcard and use the phone as usual.
Please help!
Thanks
I now have a 128 gb card in my A1
As far as I can remember you can copy your docs/media etc files on to your pc but not any app files which you will need to reinstall on your new card. The system files should stay on the internal card.
I changed my card before the phone updated to pie and now es file manager only sees the new card.
Update.
I just checked in settings /storage/apps and there is an option to move them to internal though with limited space only a few could be moved.
I'm not impressed with the A1. Sometimes it hangs or crashes. My redmi 6 is more reliable.
slammy O said:
I now have a 128 gb card in my A1
As far as I can remember you can copy your docs/media etc files on to your pc but not any app files which you will need to reinstall on your new card. The system files should stay on the internal card.
I changed my card before the phone updated to pie and now es file manager only sees the new card.
Update.
I just checked in settings /storage/apps and there is an option to move them to internal though with limited space only a few could be moved.
I'm not impressed with the A1. Sometimes it hangs or crashes. My redmi 6 is more reliable.
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Hmm...i am not sure whats the phone OS version now, not sure if it's Orea or Pie. Maybe i can check later. The internal storage has about 23GB user/32GB. The old 32GB micro SD card has about 10GB used/ 32GB. Even if i took out the whatsapp media and DCIM folder media, there is still a couple of GB of files in the microSD card. So far i can only see i can move the apps back to internal, which i have only 1 (which i uninstalled anyway). So there is still 10GB of files in my 32GB microSD.
How do i move the DCIM folders back to internal? Another problem, in the Camera app, i can't find anywhere to point the camera storage settings at all!
Thanks for your feedback.
Matrixlyn said:
Hmm...i am not sure whats the phone OS version now, not sure if it's Orea or Pie. Maybe i can check later. The internal storage has about 23GB user/32GB. The old 32GB micro SD card has about 10GB used/ 32GB. Even if i took out the whatsapp media and DCIM folder media, there is still a couple of GB of files in the microSD card. So far i can only see i can move the apps back to internal, which i have only 1 (which i uninstalled anyway). So there is still 10GB of files in my 32GB microSD.
How do i move the DCIM folders back to internal? Another problem, in the Camera app, i can't find anywhere to point the camera storage settings at all!
Thanks for your feedback.
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Never mind. I have solved the problem.
I keep looking for the options in the 3 dots in my SDCARD menu. Instead i should select the INTERNAL STORAGE. Clicked the 3 dots, there is a MIGRATE option. :silly: This will copy back the files from the SDCARD to the internal memory (provided enough storage...i have to uninstall some games first). Then i can swap out the card and put in new card.
Thanks anyway, hope this will help other people in the future!
I purchased a new Fire HD 10, 9th edition, with 32GB of internal storage. I wanted to expand that so I purchased and added a new SanDisk 16GB card. All went according to plan and data and apps moved to the card. But after seeing it quickly filling up I purchased a new 32GB card. I turned off the Fire and removed the 16GB, then popped in the 32GB card. The Fire formatted the new card. It should be an easy process, but for some reason I'm unable to move data and apps to a new micro card. The option to move apps to new card is now greyed out. Also, neither card is now recognizable in any other device. What did I do wrong and how do I correct this? Thank you.
Did you take the card out while the apps you moved to it where still there? Or did you go through the procedure needed to move or delete the apps off before removing the card? There is a way in Settings.
You may have just screwed your tablet. The OS still thinks apps are on the SD card, but they aren't anymore.
You did the very thing most people use as a reason NOT to install apps on the SD card. It's too easy to just take out and mess up the system.
When apps are moved to the card, not everything goes there. Part of every app is still in system memory - it's the part that lets the OS know it's there. Then it looks to the SD to run it when you access it. Now, you've lost that connection as the OS still thinks those app are installed, but can't run anymore.
Wanting to move over apps to the SD card does have legitimate value, especially for devices with limited on-board memory, but one must know the risks, and how to handle it.
Yeah, I shut down the Fire and removed the 16GB card, assuming is was safe to do so since it was off. Then I inserted the 32GB card but it's not working. I'm assuming I'm looking at a factory reset, (not a big deal on a one week new unit), and then installing the SD.
Does the Fire use a unique file system? I ask because neither card is being recognized by my PC when I tried to format them. They are likely hosed?
When formatted as internal storage, the format is specific to Android. It can't be read in a PC. If formatted as portable, or external, it's in the Fat32 format that a PC can read easily. I don't know if the recent gen devices will format to eXFat. I know the 7th and 8th gen tablets don't.
Best use of an SD card is to format as external, keep all apps on internal memory, and store data - such as documents, photos, music, PDFs - all on the SD card. You can also set the tablet to download books, music and other media to the SD card, even while it's set as external.
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Thanks for the insights, Joel. It's safe to assume, then, that the two SD cards in question here are now headed into the trash? I guess I'll factory reset and install a new SD card as external. Worse things have happened.
You can try the bigger card again after the reset. It might then give you the option again on how to format it.
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