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Was wondering what's the track record of Samsung getting custom Roms/firmware?
I really like how XDA have developers to do custom ROMS for HTC phones but was wondering does Samsung phones gets same treatment? Or will be looking at far and few in between updates from Samsung itself and won't be able to update to the latest and greatest?
Really want Nexus One but the Galaxy S is sooooooooo much better *sigh*
Can't answer your question on whether the Samsung will get the same amount of Dev time that has been lavished on the HTC phones, but I was in the same situation as yourself - Galaxy S or Nexus One.
I came down on the side of the Galaxy S simply because it's a better phone all round. There's a multi-touch vid on youtube comparing the responsiveness of the screens, and the Galaxy wiped the floor with the Nexus One. I'm hoping that the popularity of this phone will mean that the Devs on here will start giving some time to the Galaxy S.
I must admit I was initially drawn towards the Nexus One because of excellent work that has been done by the likes of Cyanogen et al, but I took the long term view that surely the same must eventually happen with the Galaxy S. *crosses fingers*
For the Galaxy, there is MoDaCo. For the Galaxy Spica, there is Samdroid. Don't know much about the others, but they weren't released here in Europe anyway.
I followed Samdroid a while, thinking about getting a Spica. There are some awesome things going on there - they even tried to modify the touchscreen sensor, because the hardware does support multitouch, but the driver doesn't. AFAIK, they had no success, but still nice try. And they even opened a board for the Galaxy S, maybe Leshak fetches one and works some magic there in the future. If not, I am pretty sure somebody will.
If you want to customize it to run the latest roms, the question is: how "open" is this device?
I know that HTC made the Desire a pain in the butt to unlock/root, and they will improve this with every new phone the make, making them more and more secure and block customized images.
Is Samsung going to follow the same strategy?
I think you're right Magicdroid, the question would be how open this is. But even though the Desire was a pain to root, it HAD been rooted just cos there's lots of developers. When there are lots of developers, you'll get rooted device
I wonder if the Galaxy S will get lots of user base.............I just hope lots and lots of ppl will pick it up and then the chance of longetivity with custom ROMS dramatically increases....
I'm hopoing for good community support as well. I have an AT&T Tilt, and have doen well on the XDA site. I'm spoiled
I am very interested in the Galaxy S, but I"m on At&T, and the AT&T version i keep reading about doesn't have the same specs. So having to wait and see on that.
Also, I see a lot of negative feedback on Samsung support, and based on their previous Android phone (Behold I think it's called) is not getting an upgrade. Lots of complaints about being abandonded by Samsung.
Not sure what I'll do. If At&T doesn't get decent phones soon, I mahy have to look do Verizon.
Sorry...I'm rambling off topic.
The Galaxy S looks like a great piece of hardware.
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There's a multi-touch vid on youtube comparing the responsiveness of the screens, and the Galaxy wiped the floor with the Nexus One.
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Hilarious! I just found it and laughed so much http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
I was considering to buy a Nexus, but now I changed my mind...someday this mobile will hopefully get root and give enough space for customizations of every kind...just wait and see - it will come in the mid of June to Europe and I'm eager to hold one in my hands
I'm disciplining myself to not get this phone until there's a good team of developers move to it to get customizations going
aaahhh the wait the wait......
and, do you have one jet? the best mod is doctorz rom. it runs very smooth
God damn it. Did you sign up just to necro a thread that's over A YEAR AND A HALF old?
*warning, this thread has no drama, bashing, or flaming. I know it's not the XDA way but I wanted to thank everyone.
I know there is a thanks button but wanted to especially give a thanks to our hard working Vibrant Devs. Long and bumpy road but I think my Vibrant is finally where it was meant to be (IMO). I'm ready to move on to the next Samsung device and will be staying in the SGS family. This is the longest I have kept a phone in years. Over 6 months is like a lifetime to me. Hopefully my site scored a review unit from our dealings at MWC, which I'm hoping I have a part of.
Anyway, my Vibrant running Bionix 1.2 with a Supercurio injected kernel is damn near perfect for me. Great data speed, 10 sec GPS lock, 24 hour battery life, no lag, great voice calls and quality. I could not ask for anything more. 6 million ODIN's and wipes and I dont know what else I can expect from this phone. Maybe an FFC to hold me off.
Thanks to all the Devs that made it possible. Hats off. I have a combination of work from most of these great people, and some others of course. Thanks to all.
Team Whiskey
Eugene
Master
Supercurio
ttabbal
and many more that work with them and elsewhere...
I agree with you, if it weren't for these guys I would never buy another samsung phone. Since the recent work that has come out is nothing short of great and IMO headed in the right direction, I will most likely keep samsung in mind upon my next update.
Just curious, what phone are you getting next?
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Just curious, what phone are you getting next?
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Whatever TMO variant of the SGS II family. Been a long time supporter of HTC, and never really a Moto fan. I like the build quality of HTC and Moto, but the pros and cons of Samsung really do it for me. I got some hands on at CES on most phones there and my editor is now at MWC relaying info. LG and Sammy have it locked. If the Atrix was in TMO flavor then it would be considered, but HTC just updated thier current line and Moto hates community development.
My editors first look at the SGS II and the new Tab She told me the casing feels quite solid, unlike the current SGS line which is good to hear.
Based off what I know here is why I like Sammy:
damn near unbrickable
Super AMOLED kills it, now we have a "+" version
hack/mod friendly
Samsung CPU/GPU's hold their own
We have great Devs supporting the Samsung line
I am making this sticky thread to allow discussion of all other tablets and theie comparison to the Xoom. Feel free to discuss thoughts on upgrading, specs, and value of swapping. Please respect other members and their opinions. Flaming is against forum rules so again please be respectful.
Thanks
FNM
well as i just ordered my Xoom yesterday and it should be at my house this afternoon, and since it is my first tablet, i will say that i did a lot of research (no hands on though) on a few tablets before i decided to get the Xoom.
what i like about it is its history as being the first tablet with Honeycomb and one of the first to get ICS. And now will be one of the first to get JB so a big plus is the support for the device. Couple that with Google's purchase of Motorola and it seems like a match made in heaven
i know there are smaller, thinner, lighter tablets out there, but for the price and specs, its more than i need and i am sure i will be very happy with it
I'll take this opportunity to say that imho, the OG Xoom on team EOS ROM is still the best tablet currently available. It will be even better once it has been updated to Jelly Bean (Android 4.1) later in July.
I have been hankering for a new toy and have been looking at the Nexus 7, in part because I know that team EOS is going to be developing for it. But I'm wondering if I'll really be happy with it, seeing as it is missing some important features (especially no sdcard slot). 7 inch form factor is really nice for reading and gaming. It's easy to carry around too, but I have no problems carrying my Xoom in my backpack. I'm not sure about getting it yet, but no matter, it certainly won't replace my Xoom.
I am kind of interested in the Transformer Infinity when it comes out, again because Team EOS may develop for it, but it's not a nexus tablet... Then, there may be a 10 inch nexus tablet coming out later in the year. What to do?
I think the XOOM is one hell of an excellent device that would last me for a few more years. Has great people backing it up and making this tablet one of the best for the long run. To be exactly honest I was never in the tablet market, but by chance I had $400 AUD left over from my HTPC build so I decided to spend it on the XOOM. Probably one of the best choices I had done, but also another problem I don't use my tablet all that often, since there is no need. I'm always in front of a computer or laptop so my tablet just sits there. But I'm trying to use it for other things, such as reading eBooks and mangas. Though I just do all of that on my phone, but on the tablet is a lot more nicer with the big HD screen. In short, I have no need for another tablet even if I got it for free it be sitting right next to my XOOM collecting dust, and I rather use the XOOM since it has a tough feel to it. The Australian MZ601 is very well built!
Xoom is KING!
I've had the Xoom since it was first announced. (I was one of the lucky ones with a 25% off coupon, which they quickly ended) Since then I have bought and returned an Acer, an Asus, an iPad2, a Toshiba and have bought and kept an Archos 80 and a new iPad.
Having had and used various tablets I still prefer the Xoom for most uses. I have the Archos as a cheap backup if the Xoom goes down and I have the new iPad and use sometimes. The display is better than the Xoom but most other features are less useful than the Xoom.
I recently dropped the Xoom face down on the floor from my lap. I was sure I would have a broken screen. Apparently no worse for the wear. It Is Built Like A Tank.
ICS made the Xoom even more functional and if it should get JB then that would be even more reason to use and enjoy the zoom.
The new Google tablet sounds good but no micro sd card and no HDMI cripples it considerably.
Unless the Xoom gets broken or is stolen, I see no reason to update and there are no tablets on the horizon that interest me.
Mine arrives Monday, cancelled my nexus 7 for it. As soon as it arrives in going to flash the US Rom to make it a Google device....thanks to XDA
I've yet to see a tablet that is as good as the XOOM. Period.
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I've yet to see a tablet that is as good as the XOOM. Period.
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While I love my Xoom (first tablet and it's done a great job of making my netbook pretty much pointless) I wouldn't say that it's better than anything else out there. IMO the screen on the Xoom leaves a lot to be desired contrast wise especially compared to the Tab 2.
I also just picked up a Xoom. I've been in the market for a tablet over the last few weeks and considered a bunch. While the Ipad does offer a lot app wise, the additional tablet apps just didnt interest me. So ios was a non starter.
I use a Gnex and love it to death. I figure I'll stick with the google ecosystem. As soon as I found out the Xoom was getting Jellybean my mind was all but made up. I have a jellybean rom running on my nexus and it seriously does perform at another level. It just made me realize that I didnt need the latest quad core processor to run like a beast. So with that In mind I didnt go out searching for the latest tegra 3 android tablet. I've tried other android phones that werent stock android and I never enjoyed them.
Here's what I love about the Xoom:
- built like a tank, some say its too big...I love quality feel it has
- micro sd slot, thanks
- hdmi out, wicked
- in line for Jellybean in a few weeks
- everything works like it should...wifi, gps, cameras
Its not the flashiest tablet...doesnt have a cutting edge processor.....no next gen display....it just does the job for me.
as long as the next full size (read: 10.1/8.9) Nexus/GED has a good processor (1.5+) and has decent screen to go along with vanilla jb, ill be on board.
Ill be on board faster if google is selling it w/ the same strategy as the Nexus 7.
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While I love my Xoom (first tablet and it's done a great job of making my netbook pretty much pointless) I wouldn't say that it's better than anything else out there. IMO the screen on the Xoom leaves a lot to be desired contrast wise especially compared to the Tab 2.
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Yeah, I agree that hardware-wise, the Xoom is no longer bleeding edge, but software-wise, there is nothing really out there on ICS to touch it, and with Jelly bean custom roms that will come, this thing is going to scream. Right now, everything just works (on the configuration in my signature, at least), and that's more than some android tablets can claim. Transformer Prime, I'm talking about you, lol...
One thing I really hate is the disrespect the Xoom gets outside of the Xoom community, and it's started to resurface again now that the Nexus 7 is being called the 1st "nexus" tablet, when we know that that was actually the OG Xoom. I'm still torn about whether I want to add a Nexus 7 to my stable of Android devices, or wait for something more satisfying.
I too have been itching for an upgrade to my release day Xoom but once I loaded the JB ROM I realized what a waste of $200 the Nexus 7 would be. The Xoom on JB will satisfy me until the next version of Android which I will bet the Xoom will get though unofficially. It has been an up and down past year-and-a-half for the Xoom but one I don't regret and look forward to another year at least.
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While I love my Xoom (first tablet and it's done a great job of making my netbook pretty much pointless) I wouldn't say that it's better than anything else out there. IMO the screen on the Xoom leaves a lot to be desired contrast wise especially compared to the Tab 2.
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I always felt that what the xoom lacks in hardware, it makes up in software. I completely agree about the screen. But with the xoom, that same screen is going to be showing jelly bean officially. Speaking of Jelly Bean I can't wait for it to drop on our xooms!
I guess its fair to say that the xoom does have some shortcomings, but so does all other tablets. But with the xoom, there is a good amount of support from Google and Motorola, being a GED at least in the U.S. That fuels development even more and it's a great thing when an awesome community backs the xoom too! In a way, it makes up for some of them.
But I completely understand what you were saying. Good point
Putting some thoughts here
I've owned many tablets in the past, ranging from Apple to Android. One thing for sure that made me love my xoom on top of many other tables is that Team EOS roms are great and their efforts developing customization are the one thing that makes me stick to the xoom.
When rooted, you feel like you have the power on top of your device to do anything you like. if you brick your device, it is still recoverable due to the amazing community support for it.
Price wise- it is affordable.
ROM size it a bit small compared to phones but ROM Images (system) are designed to fit just ok.
Screen: very responsive especially with ICS better than HC.
Charge time: very fast.
Speaking of JB, I don't have a single doubt that Team EOS would make it for us.
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You're telling me that Samsung, HTC, Sony and Google itself with Nexus devices have magical powers that gives them the ability to update their devices while the little Motorola can't do anything?
Think before posting, please.
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To each his own, i love my little motorola, xoom first to get HC, ICS and soon to be JB, all of google (TM) product will get jb first, I wonder what samsung htc and sony will do for an OS when google stop releasing the source code, Motorola will be one step ahead of your samsung, htc and sony,..
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To each his own, i love my little motorola, xoom first to get HC, ICS and soon to be JB, all of google (TM) product will get jb first, I wonder what samsung htc and sony will do for an OS when google stop releasing the source code, Motorola will be one step ahead of your samsung, htc and sony,..
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Since several threads were merged, this conversation has taken a bit of a turn, but to back-up your point, my Samsung GS2 E4GT phone still has not received the official upgrade to ICS, probably more due to Sprint than Sammy, but we are running custom roms based on leaked builds. They work fine but it's been quite a long time to wait for OTA and source.
The OG US Wifi Xoom has gotten every official upgrade just as fast as possible, and our devs get them to us even faster and much improved!
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I too have been itching for an upgrade to my release day Xoom but once I loaded the JB ROM I realized what a waste of $200 the Nexus 7 would be. The Xoom on JB will satisfy me until the next version of Android which I will bet the Xoom will get though unofficially. It has been an up and down past year-and-a-half for the Xoom but one I don't regret and look forward to another year at least.
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Can you use it as a daily driver, or are you just test-driving right now until the full version comes along?
I will admit that I'm tempted to try it, but nightly 114 is already so smooth and lag-free that I'm at least pretty satisfied for daily use.
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Can you use it as a daily driver, or are you just test-driving right now until the full version comes along?
I will admit that I'm tempted to try it, but nightly 114 is already so smooth and lag-free that I'm at least pretty satisfied for daily use.
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I am sacrificing a lot test driving the JB preview. BT, sound, data isn't working but enough is working to at least show the smoothness and lag free experience we should expect with JB. I was getting tired of the lag when hitting the "recents" button, home screen scrolling etc. Much more responsive on JB but in hindsight I have lost more than I gained and it may not be worth it for most.
My Xoom
I'm running a stock Xoom M604 Xoom. It's running ICS, which was slow to rollout here in Canada, but it came all the same. The updating of the OS is one of /the reasons I chose Xoom. I use it for most day to day things, as well as using it to control a friends DLNA amp. The "variety" of apps available for Android and iOS are moot, as there are so many redundant and useless apps for both platforms. I like not being locked in by the manufacturers whim, which is why I won't consider an iPad or iPhone. Only complaint I have with my Xoom is scrolling between the desktops. Which is a minor complaint vs iOS, because we actually have desktops I love the stock keyboard. It's large enough that I can still impress people with typing speed in Teamview sessions. I'm not a bleeding edge type, so thus far my Xoom has all the horsepower I need.
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I am sacrificing a lot test driving the JB preview. BT, sound, data isn't working but enough is working to at least show the smoothness and lag free experience we should expect with JB. I was getting tired of the lag when hitting the "recents" button, home screen scrolling etc. Much more responsive on JB but in hindsight I have lost more than I gained and it may not be worth it for most.
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OMG! EOS Jelly Bean! That's all I can say.
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OMG! EOS Jelly Bean! That's all I can say.
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I completely agree and cannot wait another second for it.
I haven't personally tried any quad core tablet, however there's no comparison between my xoom and my old advent vega (which was good, but the viewing angles were terrible) and with my dad's galaxy tab 10". they're all terribly sluggish.
Just felt that it was a good idea to thank the devs before I completely make the jump over to the SGS3. I know a lot of them will be working (are working) with the sgs 3 right now too and that is one of the big reasons for me getting it over the nexus prime. Ive been With this community since the beginning of the epic litterally day 1, from the first promise of froyo to gingerbread and its 300 leaks all they way up to where we are now with jellybean.
Anyhow, thanks guys you made this phone have the longevity that most phones never have due to the constant work and updating to get this one into places i never figured it would go (Cyanogen Mod and ICS even JB.).
See you guys on the flipside.
Hello everyone !!!
As Our phone is getting older and older the world is moving on so is the smartphone world.
lets cut to the chase here.
Let this thread be a Thread where everyone can say a goodbye to one of the best sub-forums in XDA.
With truly redefining developers our phone have came a long way.
But now or some times later everyone will start falling apart.so at least here they can say Good bye and be thankful to those developers.
Let Me start this First
Thank you everyone in this lovely galaxy 3 forum.
sadly its time up for me here. but i'll be here of course to visit all the threads as i can't just forget getting into galaxy 3 forum.
Hi everyone, it's me gogozx.
I got this phone exactly 2 years ago.
I learned alot of stuff with my little Apollo.
I got Kyrillos ROM and i used it for pretty long time, and i always thought it's the best phone ever.
The phone itself was beautiful and it was pretty nice and fast.
I remember how i cried just to get it.
Then my dad bought it, it was my first Android powered device.
I loved every moment i had with it, i couldn't sleep without having it next to me.
Then, as i thought Kyrillos ROM is the only custom ROM, i went to XDA for second time in my life, just to fix my device, because i accidentally deleted system apps and i couldn't launch anything.
Then i found about something called CyanogenMod 7, and i decided to flash it,
I loved it, but i couldn't play games (CM7 alpha 8 was just released back then)
I was kinda sad that i had to go back to Kyrillos ROM, but after turning back it was 10 times smoother.
I was happy with my phone and i watched him getting new custom ROMs.
Later on i saw Mpics Ice Cream Sandwich ROM was out, bit i couldn't play games neither on that ROM but i was stunned by the new Android 4.0.
So i flashed back to Kyrillos and i could play my favorite game again l Gangstar West Coast Hustle.
I did so much stuff trying to make it work, and then i got hang of the Chainfire3D app, so it worked fine.
Then Android 4.1 was out, i remember i was waiting so long to watch it getting reviewed on strongest phone ever: Galaxy Nexus.
I adored that phone,with that huge display, it was kinda like king of phones.
So great developer named marcellusbe released CyanogenMod 10 for my cute little phone, i was so happy, and i thought to myself, why i can't be awesome like marcellusbe, kyrillos or pmanian.
I decided to go and learn everything about my phone and ROM developing, and after waiting so long and making perfect Jelly Bean ROM for my little monster i finally did it, then i decided to create myself XDA Account.
I got to that 10 posts so i could finally post my ROM, i was the happiest person when people liked my ROM, and i got so much thanked posts i even continued my ROM, and it was awesome, i tried everything to make it work as good as it can, and i made it.
Recently i got a new Google Edition Galaxy SIV, and i was so sad that i knew that i will forget this phone for couple of years, i even cried when i gave it to my sister.
So i told people from this forum that it's time for me to go away, i felt like I'm losing a good friend or something.
But anyways I'm trying now to fix the camera in my Jelly Bean ROM, i got it but the pictures couldn't be saved, but i think that i will probably give up on that, because i no longer have anything, i was so frustrated that i deleted every single Galaxy Apollo file from my PC.
Recently my best friend passed away, and my girlfriend moved away, so it's been pretty hard here.
So that's my goodbye, i hope you have read every sentence i wrote here.
By the way, I'm gonna miss you Apollo Legends (every single person on our g3 forum)
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIV using xda app-developers app
Hello i'm really new on xda and have my galaxy 3 for more than two years now and it was my first phone and i learned alot from it about android and had amzing days with testing all those cool Custom roms made by amzing developers like marcellusbe.
Bye galaxy 3 forum bye cm 7.2
Welcome ace II
Welcome kyrillos v. 8 rom for ace II
Used the phone for more than 2 years.. And during these many days my little frnd has never been tired of my random and frequent flashes.. Galaxy 3 was my first Android phone.. And I can still remember my first rooting, my first ROM flash... Late night bootloops.. .. Now it's time to move on in this fast world.. Already bought Nexus 4..but you know guys i am really feeling homesick in the huge universe of nexus 4 in xda..so this little forum will always be special for me..
I thank you all devs for making this little wonder.. Others who have solved my many a queries... Thank u all.. I know some day i will meet each of you in some common xda dev thread.. Having same models in our hands.. In near future...
from nexus 4
Good bye galaxy apollo I had my galaxy 3 for about a year and a half and it was awesome my little beautiful phone my first rom was kyorarom it was the best and will allways be the best @hillbeast he is the greatest developer I used all his roms then I switched to hercobulus rom it was one of the most stable one and @marcellusbe your the king the best developer you and hillbeast will be my favorites forever
Also thanks to:
- Pmain
- Kyrillos
- rubensollie
- and all other galaxy 3 members
I buyed myself a xperia arc s and it's a great phone my brother is going to get my galaxy 3 so again thanks everyone and keep it up I will still frequently come to the forum to flash new roms for my brother so keep it up and bye bye galaxy 3
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R.I.P. my g3 and good bye everyone. As my phone is broken I am moving to lg nexus4. I want to thank to all developers who worked to make our little g3 better, especially @marcellusbe, @hillbeast and @tom3q. I also wanna thank to: rkoby, kyrillos13, shwetanlal, sad96, jason-ex, twinky444, ajay.d96, pranjal, michal12 and many other developers and themers. And also thanks to whole g3 community which taught me about android and helped when needed. I will still follow this forum so I am not leaving
Sad to see so less activity in the G3 forum. I still have my little G3 with me.
I remember the days when I was just a beginner and actually joined XDA because of the G3. Yeah, those were the days of awesome activity.
I would like to say thank you to all the developers for our g3. I have moved on to the nexus 4 but I will not leave the forum. It has been a great ride, using it daily and running every possible custom rom, from such great developers, to whom I am so greatful. As I said, I will not leave the forum, but it is no longer my main phone. Thanks for such a great time
Good bye G3
Hi today is the last day with g3...i am gonna sell my g3, i dont wanna do that...but my g3 got several hardware problems, so that leave me no choice.
i am just here to say thank you for those who spend their precious time for g3 development...even though it is too old to use. i am very happy, because g3 is my first android device. and that is the reason so i can learn more about android...i always miss you.