So I'm on a 3g android smartphone with AT&T right now and if i got a 4g off contract would i have to pay for the 4g service which is really expensive or could i just stay on my good Ole 3g service i am currently using?
I think you can keep your current plan, but don't hold me to that. It may have changed since I've asked about it.
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This is the latest thing I've found regarding you question. I asked a little while after that. xD
Since when did they start offering a 4g plan?
I know with my AT&T Sony Ericsson Xperia X10a that when I unbranded and updated to 2.1, my mobile data automatically increased from 3G to "H" or HSPA which is like 3.5G without any rate changes.
I am guessing with AT&T that 4G will be more money, so I am happy with HSPA at 3G rates. Especially since the competition is limiting the speeds of their unlimited data plans.
i thnk the 4g prices will be the same as 3g then 3g prices will drop down.
But will using "4G" route you through a different WAP? If not and it's all a matter of wording and phrasing, I say root/rom and use unlimited data as if you were on a non-smartphone. They don't have to know, you don't have to throw your $ away.
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But will using "4G" route you through a different WAP? If not and it's all a matter of wording and phrasing, I say root/rom and use unlimited data as if you were on a non-smartphone. They don't have to know, you don't have to throw your $ away.
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The fact is that with AT&T data is measured in MB or GB, not speed or time. Regardless of how fast or slow you download or use data, it is metered.
However, I do agree that it could be as easy as changing your settings to access 4G, but it won't save you any money.
AT&T's "4G" technology is technically 3G according to the standards committee that oversees these technologies. However, when AT&T starts deploying real 4G, LTE, the prices have a good chance of changing. For now, "4G" plans cost the same as any other.
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AT&T's "4G" technology is technically 3G according to the standards committee that oversees these technologies. However, when AT&T starts deploying real 4G, LTE, the prices have a good chance of changing. For now, "4G" plans cost the same as any other.
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Exactly, it is based on volume of data used, not on speed of use.
I personally plan to switch to verizon once they allow data roll over and family-plan sharing.
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I personally plan to switch to verizon once they allow data roll over and family-plan sharing.
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Verizon also limits data speeds on unlimited plans. Either way you are going to pay for data in time or money.
I have a very similar question. Hopefully someone can shed some light.
HERES WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW:
I am currently using a Rogers HTC Dream, unlocked rooted and running Gingeryoshi on AT&T. On my line, "Line A," I have the $10 unlimited dumbphone data plan and AT&T thinks I have a Samsung A737 (ancient slider phone). When I bought the phone on ebay, I just put in the APN settings and off I went.
Thanks to a contract renewal discount on "Line B" on my account, whose user does not need a new phone, I recently purchased an HTC Inspire 4G.
HERE IS THE QUESTION:
When I receive the phone, AT&T told me that I can use it on Line A, even though it was purchased through Line B. However, they said I need to call in to activate it. They said that until I do the upgrade will be listed as "incomplete" on their end. Further, they said that I will have to bump up to at least the $15 200MB data plan.
I told them I just want to sell the phone and not use it. They told me I still have to call and activate it, but that I can then "remove" it from the account and "reactivate" my dumbphone, at which point I will be reverted to the $10 a month dumbphone plan.
The $1,000,000 question: when I receive the new AT&T branded HTC Inspire, can I just pop my existing sim that I'm using in my Rogers Dream into the Inspire, and use it without calling to activate?
**to be clear, I'm not talking about bypassing the Android activation screen. Seeing as how there was no "activation" process for my Rogers Dream, I'm unfamiliar with the process as to AT&T branded phones. So, I guess the questions is if it is any different. I am comfortable rooting and roming, so if either of those processes will get me an Inspire working with my $10 data plan I'm ready to pull the trigger.
ALSO: THANK YOU XDA FORUMS. I think this is my first real post here, but I have browsed the forums for hours and you all helped me along from tethering my A737 to rooting my first T-Mobile G1, to installing roms and the DangerSPL on my Rogers Dream, so hopefully you can help me with this!
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So I'm on a 3g android smartphone with AT&T right now and if i got a 4g off contract would i have to pay for the 4g service which is really expensive or could i just stay on my good Ole 3g service i am currently using?
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I have a very similar question. Hopefully someone can shed some light.
HERES WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW:
I am currently using a Rogers HTC Dream, unlocked rooted and running Gingeryoshi on AT&T. On my line, "Line A," I have the $10 unlimited dumbphone data plan and AT&T thinks I have a Samsung A737 (ancient slider phone). When I bought the phone on ebay, I just put in the APN settings and off I went.
Thanks to a contract renewal discount on "Line B" on my account, whose user does not need a new phone, I recently purchased an HTC Inspire 4G.
HERE IS THE QUESTION:
When I receive the phone, AT&T told me that I can use it on Line A, even though it was purchased through Line B. However, they said I need to call in to activate it. They said that until I do the upgrade will be listed as "incomplete" on their end. Further, they said that I will have to bump up to at least the $15 200MB data plan.
I told them I just want to sell the phone and not use it. They told me I still have to call and activate it, but that I can then "remove" it from the account and "reactivate" my dumbphone, at which point I will be reverted to the $10 a month dumbphone plan.
The $1,000,000 question: when I receive the new AT&T branded HTC Inspire, can I just pop my existing sim that I'm using in my Rogers Dream into the Inspire, and use it without calling to activate?
**to be clear, I'm not talking about bypassing the Android activation screen. Seeing as how there was no "activation" process for my Rogers Dream, I'm unfamiliar with the process as to AT&T branded phones. So, I guess the questions is if it is any different. I am comfortable rooting and roming, so if either of those processes will get me an Inspire working with my $10 data plan I'm ready to pull the trigger.
ALSO: THANK YOU XDA FORUMS. I think this is my first real post here, but I have browsed the forums for hours and you all helped me along from tethering my A737 to rooting my first T-Mobile G1, to installing roms and the DangerSPL on my Rogers Dream, so hopefully you can help me with this!
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Ok, I work for AT&T and saw this thread and thought maybe I'd help clear some of this stuff up.
First, the 3G and the 4G plans are pretty much the same thing. You should be good using a 4g phone off contract. they are labeled different in my system at AT&T but I believe them to be the same plan because AT&T does not have a full 4G plan yet. But to be safe you can switch because the 4G plan smartphone plan costs the same as the 3G smartphone plan.
Unless you are saying you have a 3G "QMD" (Quick Messaging Device), or in lamest terms, a Non-Smartphone or "DumbPhone" haha. And that leads me to my next point. Pay attention here haha. As far as I've seen, if you have an ATT phone, the system will automatically detect if you've switched phones. Like if you went from a QMD to a ATT Smartphone, the system will auto-detect that you have a smartphone and will switch your data plan and notify you of it.
BUT, from what I've seen a few times, if you get a NON ATT Smartphone, the system doesnt seem to recognize you have a smartphone because it doesnt recognize the IMEI as a smartphone but instead as a Third-Party Device. Therefore it doesnt change your plan.
Now this does not happen to ALL non-ATT smarphones. Like my buddy who went from a QMD to an unlocked Tmo HD2 on his ATT plan. the system some how recognized his phone as a smartphone and switched him. He might have one of the phones that ATT has been able to recognize I guess.
As for getting the Inspire 4G and not activating it but using it on your other line, I would have to say that is a bad idea. If you dont activate it then after 30 days that additional line is cancelled and removed off your acct and ATT will then request the phone back. and if you dont return it, then ATT will charge the price of the phone to your acct. So no, dont do that.
As far as I know, the best way to go about getting a smartphone and not be forced to change your plan from the $10 QMD unlimited data plan to the smartphone plans is to get a non-ATT smartphone and hope they cannot recognize it as a smartphone.
My guess would be if you use 2 gb of data on that though, ATT might start asking questions as to why you are using 2gb of data on a non-smartphone though, haha. so be careful.
wrote a book but atleast I cleared some stuff up for you guys
thanks for the input chris-
you got at something that i had been wondering, mainly, whats the difference (in terms of detecting whether i have a smart phone) between my G1 or my Dream and the Inspire I just ordered. Is it that AT&T has the IMEI? I thought carriers could detect the IMEI of my Dream and discover that it was a smartphone, but they haven't...
As for the data, what's funny is that I've been using the Dream on that line with the $10 plan for 2 years, averaging 1 to 3 GB of data a month. I even had the rep pull up my account and, in the same conversation, verify that I had an A737 dumbphone (its just easier to say) and that I was using over 2GB of data. =) hahah
so, I guess I will need to activate the phone, tell them im selling it and using a razr, give them the razr imei (i have an old one) then switch the sim to the inspire and hope they dont catch it.
i wonder if anyone has tried this (maybe using an AT&T phone that they purchased on craigslist or ebay on AT&T) and how it went for them.
I guess this is sort of the even cheaper form of the UNLIM DATA 4 EVERYONE iPhone 2G trick!
PS chris I lold when you said you worked for AT&T but your info shows you're a Tmo customer. =) Maybe soon they'll be one in the same...
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thanks for the input chris-
you got at something that i had been wondering, mainly, whats the difference (in terms of detecting whether i have a smart phone) between my G1 or my Dream and the Inspire I just ordered. Is it that AT&T has the IMEI? I thought carriers could detect the IMEI of my Dream and discover that it was a smartphone, but they haven't...
As for the data, what's funny is that I've been using the Dream on that line with the $10 plan for 2 years, averaging 1 to 3 GB of data a month. I even had the rep pull up my account and, in the same conversation, verify that I had an A737 dumbphone (its just easier to say) and that I was using over 2GB of data. =) hahah
so, I guess I will need to activate the phone, tell them im selling it and using a razr, give them the razr imei (i have an old one) then switch the sim to the inspire and hope they dont catch it.
i wonder if anyone has tried this (maybe using an AT&T phone that they purchased on craigslist or ebay on AT&T) and how it went for them.
I guess this is sort of the even cheaper form of the UNLIM DATA 4 EVERYONE iPhone 2G trick!
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Glad I could help
But again I would strongly advise not actually using the Inspire because even if you give them the imei of a Moto Razr, if you put that sim in the Inspire, since it's an AT&T phone, They will probably recognize it automatically and sign you up on the smartphone data plan. The only way that I know of to get around it is to use a NON-ATT smartphone, therefore they dont know what the phone is.
Know what I mean?
and as for this..
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PS chris I lold when you said you worked for AT&T but your info shows you're a Tmo customer. =) Maybe soon they'll be one in the same...
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Yea, I love being a customer with Tmo. And I swear I'll be so mad if this merger goes thru
thanks again chris!
everyone's responses are always appreciated. thought i'd give you all a quick update:
today my inspire arrived. I called the automated activation line, entered some billing info, and accepted the terms and conditions. i did not use the new sim card sent to me at any point.
i called ATT&T just to be safe and confirm, which they did, that i had completed activation properly. my line wouldnt be canceled because i didnt put the new sim in the new phone, and i would not be charged the retail price of the inspire even though it was not registered on the line i used to order it. i told them simply that i wanted to sell the inspire, and they assured me it would work without further AT&T involvement if i put in a compatible sim card. seems like they are most concerned about 1) getting you to accept the contract in exchange for the phone and 2) getting you on a **&%*[email protected] data plan if they catch wind of you using a smartphone.
they also confirmed that NO data charges had been added to the line i used to order the upgrade, and that the 2 year contract was in effect. score.
inspire is charging, ill let you all know how it goes when i turn it on and put in my OLD AT&T sim (on the line with the $10 dumbphone plan). According to chris im rolling the dice here, so OPTIMALLY it will turn on, connect to sweet sweet 4G data, and AT&T will keep thinking I have a dumbphone. if so, chalk one up for shiftiness.
yes is it man
I have an unlocked Tmo HD2 on AT&T rooted to NexusHD Gingerbread. They think I'm still using a dumb phone. My data rate did not change.
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I have an unlocked Tmo HD2 on AT&T rooted to NexusHD Gingerbread. They think I'm still using a dumb phone. My data rate did not change.
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(Someone) should open a new thread on the whole various factors of unlocking non att phones or actual att smartphones but being able to trick att into thinking were using a crappy dumb phone haha (;
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I'm thinking about switching to the Nexus One that works with the ATT 850 and 1900 bands but, after reading all these stories of people getting switched over to the $30 smartphone data plan I'm contemplating whether I should or not. It seems as though ATT is starting to recognizing and crackdown on more and more non-att smartphone imeis and switching them to the "appropriate" smartphone data plan.
Is there a list of phones that are still unrecognized by ATTs database?
Hello,
Sorry if this is redundant but I have searched for a while and I couldn't find anything.
Clearly alot of N4 users are using the $30 T-Mobile monthly 4G plan (http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans) but the Google play N4 does not have 4g unlocked. I read somewhere that the T-Mobile plan is either 4G or EDGE speeds. Is that true, or will there be 3G speeds as well. In addition, will the method to unlock 4G on the N4 allow 4G for T-Mobile's monthly 4G.
tl;dr:
1. Is there 3G for the $30 Unlimited data T-Mobile Monthly 4G plan?
2. Can the N4 use the 4G if there is a network where I live?
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Hello,
Sorry if this is redundant but I have searched for a while and I couldn't find anything.
Clearly alot of N4 users are using the $30 T-Mobile monthly 4G plan (http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans) but the Google play N4 does not have 4g unlocked. I read somewhere that the T-Mobile plan is either 4G or EDGE speeds. Is that true, or will there be 3G speeds as well. In addition, will the method to unlock 4G on the N4 allow 4G for T-Mobile's monthly 4G.
tl;dr:
1. Is there 3G for the $30 Unlimited data T-Mobile Monthly 4G plan?
2. Can the N4 use the 4G if there is a network where I live?
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T-Mobile's current "4G" is just HSPA+ branded as "4G". Some areas have HSPA+ 42 coverage which is not too far off from LTE speeds.
1. To answer your first question, there is 3G for the Montly4G plan. You can manually select your network type on the phone. If you want HSPA+, you can use that, or even EDGE if you want it. You can toggle that on your phone.
2. Yes, if the area in which you live has HSPA+ coverage you will be able to use it. Once T-Mobile starts rolling out their LTE network on the AWS band next year, your Nexus 4 will be able to use it.
3. There is no need to "unlock" the 4G.
4. It's super simple to set up your monthly4G plan. You don't even have to manually enter your APN settings.
5. Don't worry about speed. I can get ~22Mb/s down on HSPA+ :http://imgur.com/SBJt7. I can't tell the difference in speed between my iPhone 5 on AT&T LTE (~29Mb/s) and my Nexus 4. Speed is not an issue.
I activated mine a week ago so if you have any questions don't hesitate to contact me.
Thanks s much for the quick and concise reply!
Now all I need is the N4 to be back in stock.
Holy ****. No disrespect to you, OP because it isn't your fault but this is a prime example of how the different branding of "4G" is confusing as **** to people. Glad you got your answers though OP
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I can no longer find the 30/month 5GB T-Mobile plan. Can anyone else find it? I was able to find it as recently as a week or two ago but now it is gone : (
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I can no longer find the 30/month 5GB T-Mobile plan. Can anyone else find it? I was able to find it as recently as a week or two ago but now it is gone : (
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Tmobile changed all their plans a week or to ago. And the 5g is now unlimited and I think the price increased
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castlefox said:
I can no longer find the 30/month 5GB T-Mobile plan. Can anyone else find it? I was able to find it as recently as a week or two ago but now it is gone : (
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It's still there, hidden on the bottom left. They just switched the page layout around a bit. They did increase the micro SIM card price back to $10 though, instead of the $0.99 it was last month.
In regards to the OP's questions.
1) Yes
2) Yes
No need to over complicate things with misinformation.
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Hi, XDA
Needed a little help currently here in the good old U.S.A and on verizon wireless i am thinking about switching carriers one reason is my phone of choice is the Htc One, also thinking of switching because of the things that i can do on some of the other networks here in the states like talk and surf at the same time not only on 4g lte but also on 3g hspa+, which is another thing that i liked because if im in an area that 4g lte is not available i can fall back on hspa+ which is faster than verizon cdma 3g network that tops out at 1.5-2mb down and .4mb up.
The reason why i am holding on to verizon is that I have unlimited data no throttling or data overages and I am planning to buy my phones at full retail to keep me out of contracts with these companies and also keep my unlimited data because i use alot of data i mean 8gb a month avaerage over 4months i guess if i stay with verizon i would have to settle for the samsung plastic s4 or wait for the google x phone. just want to hear some opinions or advice thanks in advance.
Sprint is your only option for unlimited data. They don't have HSPA, but are substantially cheaper than Verizon.
I just switched from Verizon to ATT yesterday coming from Unlimited as well.
I switched mainly because of the lack of service in my area of work and lack of availability of phones. Does going from Unlimited to 5Ggb suck, yes, but I also have service where I work and will be able to get the beloved HTC One. I'll just need to keep an eye on my usage from now on.
I pay $10 for every GB I go over which doesn't sound too bad to me.
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Hi, XDA
Needed a little help currently here in the good old U.S.A and on verizon wireless i am thinking about switching carriers one reason is my phone of choice is the Htc One, also thinking of switching because of the things that i can do on some of the other networks here in the states like talk and surf at the same time not only on 4g lte but also on 3g hspa+, which is another thing that i liked because if im in an area that 4g lte is not available i can fall back on hspa+ which is faster than verizon cdma 3g network that tops out at 1.5-2mb down and .4mb up.
The reason why i am holding on to verizon is that I have unlimited data no throttling or data overages and I am planning to buy my phones at full retail to keep me out of contracts with these companies and also keep my unlimited data because i use alot of data i mean 8gb a month avaerage over 4months i guess if i stay with verizon i would have to settle for the samsung plastic s4 or wait for the google x phone. just want to hear some opinions or advice thanks in advance.
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Straight Talk is AT&T MVNO and offers "unlimited" everything at $45/month, no contract. I have been using it with Galaxy Nexus for over a year.
When my unlocked HTC One arrives I will trim the sim and use it.
I'm joining my fiance's AT&T plan here in NY, there data for two lines isn't horrible. $150 for Unlimited Talk/Text and 4GB shared data for $150 for a few business/pleasure phones isn't too bad, she's paying $100 a month for her non-smartphone though, ****ing crazy!
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Straight Talk is AT&T MVNO and offers "unlimited" everything at $45/month, no contract. I have been using it with Galaxy Nexus for over a year.
When my unlocked HTC One arrives I will trim the sim and use it.
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you order the HTC One on locked can you provide link plz, and i did not even think about staright talk that looks really promising same network as AT&T unlimited calls and text plus data unlimited? now im sure they throttle usage over a certain amount just not sure what that amount of data would be.
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Straight Talk is AT&T MVNO and offers "unlimited" everything at $45/month, no contract. I have been using it with Galaxy Nexus for over a year.
When my unlocked HTC One arrives I will trim the sim and use it.
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The Straight Talk that ATT doesn't provide sims for or with T-Mobile?
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The Straight Talk that ATT doesn't provide sims for or with T-Mobile?
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You order a sim card from straight Talks website
Straight Talk uses Verizon towers where I live, my wife too uses it with her gnex
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ok just looked over somethings, thinking im staying with the plan to go with AT&T 1. I would get 4g lte with them 2. wont get throttled after 100mb-300mb of data usage.
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The Straight Talk that ATT doesn't provide sims for or with T-Mobile?
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It does but HTC One 801e I have ordered does not have frequencies that are needed with T-Mobile.
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ok just looked over somethings, thinking im staying with the plan to go with AT&T 1. I would get 4g lte with them 2. wont get throttled after 100mb-300mb of data usage.
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What city do you live in? Based on your answer I can better give a suggestion.
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What city do you live in? Based on your answer I can better give a suggestion.
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Chicagoland area or should I say Chicago surrounding suburbs
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Chicagoland area or should I say Chicago surrounding suburbs
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Then I say Sprint. They are about 90% done with their Network Vision upgrade in Chicago.
You can visit Sensorly.com so that you can see how their LTE coverage is in your area.
HI everybody
Being new in the USA I am not very familiar on the way the carriers tie different plans to different phones, it seems a bit strange to me.
So I have a N4 that I bought myself and my company IT manager requested the service with AT&T. My corporate data plan they put me under is called "Smartphone Unlimited Add-On". So far so good.
Now I want to take advantage of the Galaxy S3 subsidized by AT&T by making an upgrade. BUT my idea is to keep using the N4 myself, and give the S3 to my girlfriend.
The thing is that when I order the S3, the portal forces me to change the data plan. It says that the S3 is not compatible with my current data plan, and wants to change it to a plan called "Domestic and International Data for LTE 4G phones" (or something like that)
We all know that N4 is not LTE, and as I said I want to keep using it and give the S3 to my gf. Will the N4 work with this new plan that they are forcing me to change?? Is there gonna be any practical difference, or this plan tiering is just for marketing / billing purposes?
Thank you very much
Gonzalo
gbalerdi said:
HI everybody
Being new in the USA I am not very familiar on the way the carriers tie different plans to different phones, it seems a bit strange to me.
So I have a N4 that I bought myself and my company IT manager requested the service with AT&T. My corporate data plan they put me under is called "Smartphone Unlimited Add-On". So far so good.
Now I want to take advantage of the Galaxy S3 subsidized by AT&T by making an upgrade. BUT my idea is to keep using the N4 myself, and give the S3 to my girlfriend.
The thing is that when I order the S3, the portal forces me to change the data plan. It says that the S3 is not compatible with my current data plan, and wants to change it to a plan called "Domestic and International Data for LTE 4G phones" (or something like that)
We all know that N4 is not LTE, and as I said I want to keep using it and give the S3 to my gf. Will the N4 work with this new plan that they are forcing me to change?? Is there gonna be any practical difference, or this plan tiering is just for marketing / billing purposes?
Thank you very much
Gonzalo
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the n4 is lte, its compatible with band 4 lte, and i use lte every day. the thing is that you have to enable the lte(need a custom recovery or root). anyways, it sounds like they are trying plan tiering/or trying to get more out of your bill. anyways, im not on att, im with tmobile, so take my answer with a grain of salt
Thank you .
Yes I know the L4 unofficially supports LTE in band 4. This is T-Mo and not ATT.
However my question is the opposite... will the N4 (with no LTE enabled at all) work the same with a LTE plan? In other words, will it still work fine on HSPA+ with this plan?
Thanks
G
gbalerdi said:
Thank you .
Yes I know the L4 unofficially supports LTE in band 4. This is T-Mo and not ATT.
However my question is the opposite... will the N4 (with no LTE enabled at all) work the same with a LTE plan? In other words, will it still work fine on HSPA+ with this plan?
Thanks
G
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it probably would. and a few att areas support band 4 lte. not many, but there is band 4 in several att areas. what area of the us are you going to?
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it probably would. and a few att areas support band 4 lte. not many, but there is band 4 in several att areas. what area of the us are you going to?
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Im in Miami
I don't really care much having LTE in my N4. I'm fine with HSPA, it works very well. The thing is that I am forced to change the plan in order to get the subsidized S3 for my gf :laugh:
again thanx!
Allow it to make the change. The actual change doesn't happen until you activate the phone. So when you receive the phone, just call AT&T and let them know you will not be using the phone on your line after all and they will remove the pending data plan change.
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