Hello. I'm sorry if I write this kind of questions, I know it annoys if it's already been asked, but I swear to you I looked *everywhere* and couldn't find a precise answer.
I'm coming from an iphone, and the sgs is my first android phone. Obviously I jailbroke my iphone on day 3, and I would like to keep the same tradition rooting my new phone today. The thing it's keeping me from doing it is warranty-related: on my iphone I knew that if one day I had to send it to apple (like for a broken wifi chipset), I could just connect it to my computer, hit the "restore" button and I was good to go. Now the question is: is the same also true for the sgs? Can I just plug it in with kies and restore it to factory settings?? Or with odin? I know about the samsung-firmwares website...does it provide truly *stock* firmwares without root? So that if I send the phone to samsung for repair it is *impossible* for them to see that my phone is-was rooted??
I also have a second question concerning these problems: why does rooting avoid your warranty?? Seriously, I can understand why apple doesn't want you to jailbreak your device...it's a double money loss for them. Either because you crack apps without buying them and/or because you use another "appstore" where you buy apps without giving them a cent...
But google I really can't understand: it's an open os, you can use other appstores right in your device (I read this info, but in fact apart from the samsung one, I've never seen alternative stores...), heck, you can also crack applications right in your device without rooting it!
So really, WHY?!?
I just wanted to root because of titanium backup. When I bought the phone I started playing with it for a while, downloaded some apps, changed some settings, tuned my homescreen, etc. Then I rebooted into windows to use kies and upgrade the firmware...and I found the horrible news: I had to do everything back from scratch. Now, that is something (coming from an iphone) that I find really disturbing. And then I read about titanium backup pro...but you need root. Seriously, why should that be something that avoids my warranty?!? Can someone explain this to me?
[ABANDONED] My worries have been aliviated by the people posting here that T-Mobile did not check for an unlocked bootloader. That's enough for me to close the issue. If someone does need to find the answer to this question, feel free to pursue it otherwise I consider this [CLOSED]
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I've already searched for this EXTENSIVELY and need more help. I have a similar problem to this thread (which wasn't resolved), but didn't want to revive a dead thread from Dec '10 to ask this.
First and most important question is: WILL I NEED TO DO THIS?> Will T-Mobile check for the unlocked bootloader on a broken-screen phone and will they notice my MIUI rom? (I'm REALLY worried about this because rooting my phone does void the warranty, but honestly I didn't break it. The screen just stopped working. Really worried = the search for a solution).
Is HTC warranty a better option? (I'm actually the second owner and the original owner is going to try to do the replacement)
I've realized that I can use Android Screencast to see what the phone is showing, and touch input still works on my phone (though Android Screencast isn't letting me use my computer mouse/keyboard to use my phone). This is only available on a rom/backup with USB debugging enabled, and shows CWM Recovery (using the latest version).
Can someone please help me go through all the steps needed to restore everything to stock? I am cursed by this issue and realize that someone would need to take over an hour to figure all this out.
>>I know I'm asking for a lot, but this is a great community to be involved in and I've searched all over for help before posting.<<
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P.S. I've also looked at [Guide] Remove permanent root, and I need to know what extra steps I will need to know with a broken screen. CWM 3.0+ presents a problem for stock rom, and I need one with USB debugging enabled already.
Also, fyi I used the Rage/Gfree latest version available as of Jan 24 (when I rooted). I did not flash the Engineering HBoot, which would probably help.
What i found was they dont care about the software. confirmed twice. Apparently it is a known defect in the phone that the screen stops working, they will admit it now. We have done 2 warranty replacements and the first one at the time of the post, they tried to charge me for breaking the screen (we did a better business bur Complaint) and got refunded. The second time they didnt even question it and we werent even charged.
So no they dont care, dont worry about it.
I just so happen to have the exact problem as you, i stepped on my phone leavng the screen internally broken put the touch screen still worked. I was running CM7 and i called them and just sent it in with no problems. there not there to look at the software and are not going to take the time to replace screens on all the phones they get in first to see if there rooted or not. If you cant tell its rooted by looking at the screen (i mean it is broken) then theres no way they will. Just send it in and you'll get it in about weeks time
I had this problem and submitted it to warrenty, anyway. They asked me three questions, is the screen cracked. Is there any external damage, and any water damage. All were no's, so they replaced the phone without ever checking for root.
Thanks for all the responses. All three of you have reassured me to the point that I'm not going to worry about it either. While I appreciate that T-Mobile is not going to charge me for rooting my device (which I should be able to do), I am annoyed that as a secondary owner I do not get warranty support and need to have the original owner take care of it.
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Thanks for all the responses. All three of you have reassured me to the point that I'm not going to worry about it either. While I appreciate that T-Mobile is not going to charge me for rooting my device (which I should be able to do), I am annoyed that as a secondary owner I do not get warranty support and need to have the original owner take care of it.
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Actually no, even if you are a second owner u can still get it replaced. I am also a second owner but I know a way to get it replaced. Pm me
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Hello world,
I am a little paranoid these days. Mobile phones checking where you go
to the toilet, making photos while you're driving. I just do not feel comfortable
with this idea. I know it is almost impossible to change this, but i feel like i want
to.
I am completely new to the whole android world, and i do not know how this is
put together.
Things i do know is that there is a boot lock which protects the device from
running other roms.
What i want here is i would like someone to explain to me if it is possible to
exploit my device, to get root access but not for the device it self. I do not want my
device to run in root mode all the time for security issues, i just want to manually
remove some apps and maybe configure iptables etc. Also i would like to backup the
original software that is installed.
Maybe there are already roms like this ?
I hope someone will respond to me :victory:
Greetings,
Rick
Hi there
I have been looking for a replacement for my Moto X Pure (because I am idiot and lost it). I liked the specs and the price of the Axon7 (having an support for an external SSD won me over vrs One Plus). Anyways I should have checked here first as there is a serious limitation for my use case. I use my phone for my work. Due to the way the work policies were setup we have to enable the password for Android start up. And as some of us have found out the hard ware that option is NOT supported with the current OS on the phone. From what I have read the phone is pre-encrypted so this option was removed.
My question (I know finally) was is there any way to get the start Android password working? I heard something about the un-locked boot loader but not sure if that is the ticket. I am not sure why the folks at ZTE removed that feature/option. Without getting this option re-enabled I have no choice but to send this phone back (take advantage of the 30 day money back guarantee) and look for something else... other than that I really like this phone! As always thank you XDA members!
Jb
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So I bought this phone off of OfferUp for a really good price because it is google locked. I've had success unlocking a few phones so I jumped on it. I cant figure out how to unlock this thing for the life of me. I have been searching the net for a program or backdoor for a couple days now and haven't found anything that works. I also found out that the IMEi has been blacklisted, but I have heard that its possible to assign the phone a new one. If anyone can steer me in the right direction to get this phone up and running I would really appreciate it! :fingers-crossed: