So I finally got my Ouya in the mail a few days and immediately noticed some controller issues. At first it appeared to be the input lag that everyone has been talking about. Upon closer inspection, however, I realized it seems to be a sensitivity issues with the analog sticks. You must move the sticks nearly half way to their extreme before values start registering.
To verify this, I threw together a simple app that would print the analog values from the sticks. Sure enough, it was exactly what I thought. It takes quite a bit of movement to get the sticks to register. They have a large dead zone.
In comparison, I have a wired Xbox 360 controller I hooked up to my Ouya to do the same test... And what do you know, it works great! Barely touching the sticks, they instantly start registering values.
Along with this, I found a similar issues with the analog triggers on the controller. The Ouya triggers took a fair amount of pressure before anything started being detected. And once they did, if you try to slowly press and release the trigger, the values jump around quite a bit.
In comparison again, with my wired Xbox 360 controller, trigger values are instantly registered, and the values are very smooth as you press and release the triggers.
Now I don't know if I just have a defective controller (I don't know anyone else with an Ouya to test with!) or if this is a hardware or software problem. But I'm definitely not impressed. Being a fairly avid console gamer myself, this is something I noticed right away, and instantly made games uncomfortable to play. I will be playing any games via my Xbox 360 controller for the time being.
I'd love it if some people could test this themselves. Just hop into a game, and see how much you have to move the stick before you get any actual movement!
Edit: Seems like this is a problem that lots of developers are stumbling onto now. And it seems to be worse than I thought. And a hardware issue.
Link: http://gamewoof.com/news/gamescoop-additional-problems-with-ouyas-controller/#more-4879
However, Ouya claims to have fixed it, and is replacing controllers at request
Link: http://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/1275/analog-stick-state-of-the-world/p2
Seem developers are a little suspect that it's fixed however. Sigh!
Edit 2: I've put in a support request for one of these new fixed controllers. I'll update this post with their response, and results of the new controller if I get one.
Edit 3: I posted this in a later post, but figured I should update this post as I said I would! Replacement controller works great. So if you have a bad controller, just email OUYA support and they should get a new one.
I contacted support as well. Not sure how they could have missed this. This could have gone much smoother if they would have allowed us to help with design...or at least more testing. Like you mentioned, in only a few days, a test program and java workaround class was made. They could have utilized these kind these kind of test tools in earlier phases. Engineering mistakes are more costly when you've already shipped.
This Friday's email will be pretty interesting. I wonder if Julie is going to talk about it.
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I contacted support as well. Not sure how they could have missed this. This could have gone much smoother if they would have allowed us to help with design...or at least more testing. Like you mentioned, in only a few days, a test program and java workaround class was made. They could have utilized these kind these kind of test tools in earlier phases. Engineering mistakes are more costly when you've already shipped.
This Friday's email will be pretty interesting. I wonder if Julie is going to talk about it.
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Yeah I'll be real interested to see if she says anything, but I highly doubt it. Just another chart. This is going to end up being a costly mistake for them, that could have been easily avoided.
Also, 2 days now, no response from Ouya support about a controller replacement.
Edit: Wow. Actually, I do have a response from Ouya support. I just didn't notice.
My original email:
I'm writing about the Ouya controller sensitivity issues. I've ran some tests myself, and can see that I definitely have this issue with my console's controller that just barely arrived. I detailed the issue in an XDA post here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2278700
Is this what is believed to be solved already? And if so, can I get my hands on a revised controller to continue testing with?
Thanks,
Brayden Reesor
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Ouya support response:
Hi Brayden,
Your package is already en route to its final destination. Don't worry if your tracking number isn't tracking.
Try tracking your package from the DHL Global Mail website, http://webtrack.dhlglobalmail.com/ then copy & paste your tracking number into the box.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you,
Jim H.
OUYA
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... What? I've replied asking if they even read my message...
Same here, no response yet. They sound like they are super swamped. I kind of feel bad. I've been there.
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I got my Ouya last Friday and experienced the trifecta of controller issues:
1) lag making most games unplayable
2) Buttons sticking under the faceplates.
3) The funky deadzones making the analog sticks all but useless.
I did a bunch of testing Saturday and Sunday trying to verify the problems were the controllers. I paired them with my computer and found them to be unreponsive and giving random button presses. But when I paired them with my android phone and nook color tablet - they worked better than on the actual Ouya itself, still a bit of lag but not nearly as bad as with the PC or Ouya. Finally on Sunday I decided to e-mail support, I gave them a polite description of the issues I was experiencing and what I had done to try and eliminate anything other than the controllers as the cause of the issues.
I didn't hear back until Tuesday at which time they asked for some details about my order, photos of the controllers with and without the faceplates on, and the serial number from the controllers (which BTW is on the inside of the removable faceplate which just seems poorly thought out to me since you could swap them between controllers making the serial numbers kind of pointless since they aren't really fixed to a controller.) I also included photos of the results from the JoystickTest apk that was posted by one developer in the official Ouya dev forums about the analog stick issues.
I sent those photos and my reply late Wednesday night. I got a reply this afternoon around 4:30 saying new controllers were on their way to me and would be shipped tomorrow (Friday) along with a shipping label and instructions on how to return the originals when the replacements come. The e-mail was a little off in that the plurality changed throughout it - one sentence they would say they would be sending replacement controllers (plural) but then the next they'd say they would send instructions on how to return my controller (no plural.) But I'm just chalking that up to an overworked support staff due to the number of controller issues they're probably dealing with and the people asking where their shipment is.
Immediately following that e-mail I got another e-mail from the USPS confirming a shipment coming to me from Julie in San Mateo - so they seem to be shipping the replacements out of CA so at least there's no long wait for them to arrive from overseas...and I'm hoping they've been through more rigorous QC here in the states but that may just be the optimist in me
I usually get shipments from CA in just a day or two so I'm hoping to have new controllers early next week. I could luck out and see them Saturday but I doubt it given my local mail service lately
In the meantime I've had good luck using a borrowed PS3 controller in games that support it. It's literally a night and day difference in the same games. Secret of Universe Alpha plays like your ship is flying through Honey or Molasses and pretty much sticks to the cardinal directions and diagonals with the stock controllers - but with the PS3 it moves fluidly and quickly. Pinball Arcade is unplayable with the stock controllers there's at least a 1 second delay between pressing a trigger and the flipper reacting. But with the PS3 controllers there's only a very very slight delay. I'm really hoping the replacement controllers are a big improvement. (Also, Universe Alpha has been updated and the dev added code to compensate for the funky dead zones. I just installed the update tonight but haven't had a chance to try it yet. He says it makes it playable with the dead zone controllers but the PS3 controllers are still better on it.)
I think the big problem (other than bad controllers) is their support staff is undermanned right now and just overwhelmed. So a bit of patience and friendly tone in e-mails with them pays off.
My Ouya arrived yesterday, the first thing I did was look for faults with the controller having read quite a bit of reports like this, luckily I think mine is one of the newer controllers in which they claim they fixed the issue, seems to work great.
misfit410 said:
My Ouya arrived yesterday, the first thing I did was look for faults with the controller having read quite a bit of reports like this, luckily I think mine is one of the newer controllers in which they claim they fixed the issue, seems to work great.
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Do you think you could run the test APK and post results in this thread and in the thread over in the Ouya Development forum (link provided in OP)?
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Do you think you could run the test APK and post results in this thread and in the thread over in the Ouya Development forum (link provided in OP)?
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Just did, my results look very much like the results they showed for the 360 controller, I'm getting activity with the slightest movement, it looks like it is indeed fixed in the newer releases.
I posted this in the developer forums and shared it on reddit, but I'll leave this here too
My one 'additional' controller that I received with my shipment on 5/13 has good analog sticks, and the one that came in the kickstarter "kit" is bad.
My unit needed an update on first startup; I have seen others saying they did not need an update when they turned it on. Not sure if that's an indication. Maybe someone who already had the update will chime in with their controller results.
[edit, can't post links since I'm new]
Hope this helps. Also, the second controller that works does not seem to have a problem with disconnecting randomly, not pairing on the first try, and button stick-age unlike the first controller.
So they definitely seem to have improved...
Edit - also, the d-pad feels a little better, but the triggers are the same.
airman86 said:
I posted this in the developer forums and shared it on reddit, but I'll leave this here too
My one 'additional' controller that I received with my shipment on 5/13 has good analog sticks, and the one that came in the kickstarter "kit" is bad.
My unit needed an update on first startup; I have seen others saying they did not need an update when they turned it on. Not sure if that's an indication. Maybe someone who already had the update will chime in with their controller results.
[edit, can't post links since I'm new]
Hope this helps. Also, the second controller that works does not seem to have a problem with disconnecting randomly, not pairing on the first try, and button stick-age unlike the first controller.
So they definitely seem to have improved...
Edit - also, the d-pad feels a little better, but the triggers are the same.
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Will add that on mine, no update was needed.
Okay thanks for the response. It looks very possible that the units that came with the update already will have okay controllers. I will continue asking around, but I feel like this is a logical expectation.
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Okay thanks for the response. It looks very possible that the units that came with the update already will have okay controllers. I will continue asking around, but I feel like this is a logical expectation.
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Would be logical...but mine came fully updated but with 2 of the "dud" controllers - both the one in the kit and the extra I ordered. Both have the faceplates that cause buttons to stick and the funky sticks.
I need to run the test apk tonight. My controller arrived with my OUYA exactly one week ago. The first game I played was pinball arcade and I it was unplayable die to lag(I have installed Zen Pinball HD in the meantime which works great). The left trigger got jammed within the first 5 minutes of pinball and had to bee pulled out by punching the sides. The pressure needed is definitely lower for the left spring as well. Driving with the analog stick is terrible.
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Wow, quality control issues sound quite worrying to me.
Quick question. As far as android is concerned (or windows), does the touch pad on the controller get detected as a mouse? Similar to a laptop touch pad.
SixSixSevenSeven said:
Wow, quality control issues sound quite worrying to me.
Quick question. As far as android is concerned (or windows), does the touch pad on the controller get detected as a mouse? Similar to a laptop touch pad.
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Yeah. The mouse pointer even shows on screen. It's as if you paired a Bluetooth mouse (with 1 button).
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That is my controller with the cover on.
That is the results with the cover removed.
I'm so aggravated about this. Exactly what evidence is OUYA asking for, so I can send it all now.
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I got my Ouya last Friday and experienced the trifecta of controller issues:
1) lag making most games unplayable
2) Buttons sticking under the faceplates.
3) The funky deadzones making the analog sticks all but useless.
I did a bunch of testing Saturday and Sunday trying to verify the problems were the controllers. I paired them with my computer and found them to be unreponsive and giving random button presses. But when I paired them with my android phone and nook color tablet - they worked better than on the actual Ouya itself, still a bit of lag but not nearly as bad as with the PC or Ouya. Finally on Sunday I decided to e-mail support, I gave them a polite description of the issues I was experiencing and what I had done to try and eliminate anything other than the controllers as the cause of the issues.
I didn't hear back until Tuesday at which time they asked for some details about my order, photos of the controllers with and without the faceplates on, and the serial number from the controllers (which BTW is on the inside of the removable faceplate which just seems poorly thought out to me since you could swap them between controllers making the serial numbers kind of pointless since they aren't really fixed to a controller.) I also included photos of the results from the JoystickTest apk that was posted by one developer in the official Ouya dev forums about the analog stick issues.
I sent those photos and my reply late Wednesday night. I got a reply this afternoon around 4:30 saying new controllers were on their way to me and would be shipped tomorrow (Friday) along with a shipping label and instructions on how to return the originals when the replacements come. The e-mail was a little off in that the plurality changed throughout it - one sentence they would say they would be sending replacement controllers (plural) but then the next they'd say they would send instructions on how to return my controller (no plural.) But I'm just chalking that up to an overworked support staff due to the number of controller issues they're probably dealing with and the people asking where their shipment is.
Immediately following that e-mail I got another e-mail from the USPS confirming a shipment coming to me from Julie in San Mateo - so they seem to be shipping the replacements out of CA so at least there's no long wait for them to arrive from overseas...and I'm hoping they've been through more rigorous QC here in the states but that may just be the optimist in me
I usually get shipments from CA in just a day or two so I'm hoping to have new controllers early next week. I could luck out and see them Saturday but I doubt it given my local mail service lately
In the meantime I've had good luck using a borrowed PS3 controller in games that support it. It's literally a night and day difference in the same games. Secret of Universe Alpha plays like your ship is flying through Honey or Molasses and pretty much sticks to the cardinal directions and diagonals with the stock controllers - but with the PS3 it moves fluidly and quickly. Pinball Arcade is unplayable with the stock controllers there's at least a 1 second delay between pressing a trigger and the flipper reacting. But with the PS3 controllers there's only a very very slight delay. I'm really hoping the replacement controllers are a big improvement. (Also, Universe Alpha has been updated and the dev added code to compensate for the funky dead zones. I just installed the update tonight but haven't had a chance to try it yet. He says it makes it playable with the dead zone controllers but the PS3 controllers are still better on it.)
I think the big problem (other than bad controllers) is their support staff is undermanned right now and just overwhelmed. So a bit of patience and friendly tone in e-mails with them pays off.
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Yeah. I finally got a proper response from Ouya, asking for the same pictures and info. And yeah. I noticed the serial number on the faceplate thing as well, thinking how dumb and useless that is. But yeah, hopefully I'll hear back soon from them and get a fixed controller. The fact that at least some people are seeming to have proper controller is a good sign that they are on track to fix this issue, especially before the retail launch when more people will have access to our games! I can't imagine the flood of bad reviews that could come from this... I'll keep everyone updated! Running the apk on my new controller whenever I get it.
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That is my controller with the cover on.
That is the results with the cover removed.
I'm so aggravated about this. Exactly what evidence is OUYA asking for, so I can send it all now.
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They want a picture of your controller, with and without the faceplate on, and the serial number (which is on the inside of the faceplate). Then they want the name and address the Ouya was shipped to.
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They want a picture of your controller, with and without the faceplate on, and the serial number (which is on the inside of the faceplate). Then they want the name and address the Ouya was shipped to.
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I guess I am going too have to wait for my response email now. I sent pics of the test results and a.macro photo showing the serial numbers of the OUYA and the controller, but no images of the entire controller. I guess they want those to check for physical damage. I already dinged the corner of one of the aluminum faceplates, stupid soft metal, maybe they will make enamel ones in the future.
I'm second guessing my decision to request a replacement already, maybe I should have waited a month or two to see if they improve the touch pad. Mine is already getting worn smooth from navigating file menus trying to restore different types of backups. Which does make a difference.
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Not to sound like a whiney XDA member, but this whole mess is becoming rather frustrating.
I'm sure they're busy, but I sent the support team all the info they requested (#'s and pics) and I haven't received a response in over a week. They were quick to explain the info I needed to provide, but nothing after that. 3 emails later...nothing.
A simple email saying "we are processing your request" would go along way. Ya know, since I was one of the backers. Silence in this case is certainly not golden.
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I bought a g tablet. I feel close to it given I put in more than 30 hours going through different beta versions of alternate roms trying to get things the way they should be since out of the box it was a piece of crap. Being in canada I had driven to nearest Sears in US to Purchase it. Before the screen calibration fix I had essentially given up the inability to type properly and the horrible viewing angles and Sd card woes had me looking elsewhere.
Having tried the more expensive Galaxy Tab and finding it laggy and flash video unviewble, I decided I needed a Tegra based device. I also felt for my needs 7 inches might be better as I find typing in landscape mode hard with a 10 incher(hmm weird genital reference there LOL). I also feel that for my needs (book reading, surfing video watching, the odd game, and quick reference use) that the smaller form fact might be better given it is lighter and more portable (can fit in coat pocket....)
Heard about the ELocity and saw it available for 100$ less than what ipaid for g tab. so ordered it to my Brother's in Florida as will be there next week. It is already there waiting for me.
Of course since ordering it not having given the g tab back yet I have it working the way I want minus the screen viewing angles which I hate as I cant type on it when lounging unless holding it awkwardly in landscape mode using my thumbs.
Seems the Elocity has much better screen in terms of viewing angles.While lower res, the DPI is in fact the same and conforms to the Android OS max resolution of 800x480 so I suspect most apps will look correct on it. It also appears to come rooted out of the box. The UI layer on it is fast and responsive and flash is there to start. So for those considering a g tablet and don't want to muck around it works much better out of the box.
Seems it is not perfect yet and suffers many of the same issues the G tablet did:
Like the gtablet there is no official android market
Wifi for some seems to not wake up with the device from sleep
Angry birds won't run
All of the above from what I have read seem to be related to drivers and tegra 2 not having the best or newest ones out of the box.
Elocity says a fix is coming on december 24th (wonder if this is similar to what was done by Roebeet et al. with TNT light and Vega N with the performance upgrades form experimental diver pack)
Multitouch which is supposed to be 1+1 (which I believe is what the gtab is) doesn't seem to be enabled properly and is only emulated in software, and as of yet, not very well.
Seems from some things discovered on a different thread that this might be a 2 point multitouch after all.
For some reason there is no Elocity forum yet which I think could impede people coming on and helping development on it (Notion Ink Adam has a forum though there is no device in the wild for another month at least). I suspect given these are both Tegra 2 devices that there might be some parallel things to help.
for more info and possible help either for you to give or get the biggest thread going is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872299
One professional view just out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CvY8jzyCWI
One XDA member first look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6foXW1zizM
gtablet Adobe Flash update
Greetings, this may be something and may be nothing.
Just FYI –
I talked to Mike at Viewsonic support on 20101220 3:34p PST.
He advises that Staples had an in store warranty conflict and no manufacturing defect exists with the gtablet. The update scheduled for 20101219 is posted and done so in such a way that some folks see it auto-download with WIFI and some will not for approx 24 to 48 hours.
Mike also advises that the Adobe Flash update IS NOT part of the latest update however he says it is still in the works and will be updated soon.
I am still contemplating whether to return mine or not. I have had it for 27 days and it has been absolutely fabulous and beyond my expectations less the FLASH player.
I need INPUT INPUT INPUT.
Thanks - feel free to email me –
[email protected]
//ji
Can't wait
I rooted my wife's HTC Desire since it took forever for Froyo. My phone is a WinMo 6.1 HTC Touch Pro. Love it, but Android is much more user friendly.
I am anti-"any product that starts with lower case i" and I'm looking for a good tab. If the patch comes out on the 24th as promised, I'm ready to pull the trigger.
The price is just right IMHO for this tab. However, depending how dev on this tab progresses after the new update, I may wait to see what's coming at CES.
Unfortunately for my wallet, I'm an instant gratification kind of guy. I can't build my $1600 gaming rig just yet, but this just might tide me over. I'm so tired of my netbook for menial tasks. Video playback sucks.
So... who else is stoked about the A7?
Post Firmware Update
Just ordered my from J&R Music. They had it for 299.99. Once I saw the performance increase with the new update, as well as some tweaks from our freinds at XDA, it was a done deal.
Ordered an 16 Micro SD with it, and I couldn't be more excited. I just sold my netbook, and this will its replacement. The netbook was great for light surfing, Skype, and email. It chugged at everthing else. Intel's GMA graphics on netbooks just suck! Here comes nVidia!
elocity
I just ordered from shopnbc. I used the flexpay option as this option is more pocket friendly for me at the moment. I'm returning my nook color because tomorrow marks the 14th day and won't be returnable after 15 days. The video presentation on that site played angry birds, video and flash on a website without issues. I can't wait till it gets here!
HELP
I know this is a dumb question but how can i get google market on my ELOCITY A7.
Thanks for any HELP/answers.
camaroone.
camaroone said:
I know this is a dumb question but how can i get google market on my ELOCITY A7.
Thanks for any HELP/answers.
camaroone.
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I took a hit for the team... I modded my eLocity to the newest modware; eLocityMod 1.4.1. Now all my downloaded games, and apps work PERFECT. I now have the Google Market as well as the Amazon AppStore. Angry Birds RIO works like a dream ! The only problem I am having with the new Mod is that I can not hot swap USB drives. I got to boot up the device with the USB thumb drive already inserted so that the eLocity will recognize it.
I am thinking about purchasing the Pebble SmartWatch. I am curious to if I will be able to connect the watch to my phone while my phone is connected to my truck's bluetooth radio or Bluetooth headset (one at a time). All the reviews i have seen shows it just playing through headphones or the phone's speaker, not through another bluetooth device. Anyone have any experience w/ the pebble watch? 150.00 is alot without confirming that it works.
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I am thinking about purchasing the Pebble SmartWatch. I am curious to if I will be able to connect the watch to my phone while my phone is connected to my truck's bluetooth radio or Bluetooth headset (one at a time). All the reviews i have seen shows it just playing through headphones or the phone's speaker, not through another bluetooth device. Anyone have any experience w/ the pebble watch? 150.00 is alot without confirming that it works.
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I don't think the phone can maintain more than one bluetooth connection at a time. Though my car stereo can so I guess it is possible and just a software issue. Maybe there's an app out there or maybe a Dev could figure it out. BUT since a car stereo connects as a headset MAYBE it could connect to a second device as a data connection (Watch)?
I don't think it's available for the public yet, only shipping to "backers" at this point. Still says "Pre-Order"
My car doesn't have A2DP so I run 2 simultaneous connections and it works perfectly fine. One connection to the car's phone and another for audio through an A2DP device connected so I can listen to music as well as take calls from the car. The phone hands each off just fine. The N4 is perfectly capable of handling multiple Bluetooth connections at a time.
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setzer715 said:
I don't think the phone can maintain more than one bluetooth connection at a time. Though my car stereo can so I guess it is possible and just a software issue. Maybe there's an app out there or maybe a Dev could figure it out. BUT since a car stereo connects as a headset MAYBE it could connect to a second device as a data connection (Watch)?
I don't think it's available for the public yet, only shipping to "backers" at this point. Still says "Pre-Order"
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Th phone can be connected to two things at once. I have my Parrot Minikit Neo and also the HTC stereo stick connected at the same time. So when a call comes in, the Parrot will pick up the call and then when ended, my HTC Stereo stick will continue to play/stream from my phone.
I'm just running PA 3.1 and no audio add-ons/hacks. Using Poweramp and sometimes N7 player to play from my phone.
And I am a backer as well. I have the Grey one on order, and from my understanding, will be one of the last ones to be shipped because they begun shipping only the black pebbles at this point and is approx 30% done with it's backer rewards. So I'll probably get it in May lol.
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Th phone can be connected to two things at once. I have my Parrot Minikit Neo and also the HTC stereo stick connected at the same time. So when a call comes in, the Parrot will pick up the call and then when ended, my HTC Stereo stick will continue to play/stream from my phone.
I'm just running PA 3.1 and no audio add-ons/hacks. Using Poweramp and sometimes N7 player to play from my phone.
And I am a backer as well. I have the Grey one on order, and from my understanding, will be one of the last ones to be shipped because they begun shipping only the black pebbles at this point and is approx 30% done with it's backer rewards. So I'll probably get it in May lol.
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Good to know that the phone can handle multiple connections at once!
I just added one of the watches to the cart to see ship time and it's stating a ship time of April-May. I think as a backer you will get it sooner. I'm not getting one, $150 is quite a bit but my wife cannot use her phone at work. It's tough for me to get a hold of her so I was thinking for her. She's an Apple user though so she may just wait and see what Apple releases this year.
setzer715 said:
Good to know that the phone can handle multiple connections at once!
I just added one of the watches to the cart to see ship time and it's stating a ship time of April-May. I think as a backer you will get it sooner. I'm not getting one, $150 is quite a bit but my wife cannot use her phone at work. It's tough for me to get a hold of her so I was thinking for her. She's an Apple user though so she may just wait and see what Apple releases this year.
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I am a backer and I don't expect to see mine until April. lol
They are putting off color orders and producing more black than anything. Their production isn't where they planned on it being either. I expect that April-May shipment for pre-orders to become June-July.
setzer715 said:
Good to know that the phone can handle multiple connections at once!
I just added one of the watches to the cart to see ship time and it's stating a ship time of April-May. I think as a backer you will get it sooner. I'm not getting one, $150 is quite a bit but my wife cannot use her phone at work. It's tough for me to get a hold of her so I was thinking for her. She's an Apple user though so she may just wait and see what Apple releases this year.
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There's a kickstarter called Embrace+ a notifying bracelet. I don't think it will get funded. It has a lofty goal of $250k and it's about 22k into it with 25 days to go lol. Good idea! But sadly won't get made.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/embraceplus/embrace-1
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diablos991 said:
I am a backer and I don't expect to see mine until April. lol
They are putting off color orders and producing more black than anything. Their production isn't where they planned on it being either. I expect that April-May shipment for pre-orders to become June-July.
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What color did you get?
kpjimmy said:
There's a kickstarter called Embrace+ a notifying bracelet. I don't think it will get funded. It has a lofty goal of $250k and it's about 22k into it with 25 days to go lol. Good idea! But sadly won't get made.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/embraceplus/embrace-1
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Just remember people, Kickstarter is not a store. These investments potentially have much more risk involved.
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What color did you get?
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Gray.
diablos991 said:
Just remember people, Kickstarter is not a store. These investments potentially have much more risk involved.
Gray.
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Cool! Yes I know it's not a store. I have backed quite a few
For the love of everything that is holy I have been trying to find this solution for so long...
I'm basically looking for an Android compatible version of something like the Kensington LiquidAUX setup. For older cars that don't have built in bluetooth but DO have an auxillary in cable, this solution lets you plug the aux in cable into a bluetooth receiver and also gives you a remote that attaches to your steering wheel that can change music tracks. You can see what I mean from these pictures:
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I have been searching and searching and searching and have never found anything that will accomplish this with an Android phone. I had privately always wondered if a Pebble watch could achieve this.
I got my pebble on Friday and have been playing with it all weekend :laugh:. I do love it! I slapped on a skin protector and matte black. Oh and for those who reads the entire thread, I did initially order the grey one, but the colors especially the grey was going to take longer than the black ones, which were produced in abundance and was the first to be produced. Pebble offered to switch to black, which I did and I decided I wanted matte black skin which look awesome IMO. The glossy face looks off with the band. And I am looking at a few cuff bands to house this sucker!
Back to topic. So far the bt plays well with the phone. I can now control my music tracks using my V-Moda M-100's, and also my bt setup in my truck using an HTC Car Clip, which is plugged into my aux port on my head unit. That is paired up with my N4 for playing my tracks. Now I can use my Pebble to skip through tracks! Love it!! No need to wake the phone to swipe.
Also my parrot minikit neo works as well. No conflicts with any of them so far. I will report back if something happens lol.
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For the love of everything that is holy I have been trying to find this solution for so long...
I'm basically looking for an Android compatible version of something like the Kensington LiquidAUX setup. For older cars that don't have built in bluetooth but DO have an auxillary in cable, this solution lets you plug the aux in cable into a bluetooth receiver and also gives you a remote that attaches to your steering wheel that can change music tracks. You can see what I mean from these pictures:
I have been searching and searching and searching and have never found anything that will accomplish this with an Android phone. I had privately always wondered if a Pebble watch could achieve this.
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Ran across this old thread randomly while reading about the Pebble, I know it's blatant necromancy but I felt compelled to post and mention that Kensington made a standard Android compatible version of that device, same name and everything. Only difference is that instead of having the 20 pin cable sticking out it has a USB port down there that will charge any old phone...
The thing is old as dirt and it's actually discontinued I think so good luck finding it, wasn't even meant for Android per se, I've been using mine for the better part of three years! Worked fine with my last dumb phone (a Sony Ericsson) as well as my last three Android phones. The only occasional issue is that it'll lose power if wiggled but that could just be the fault of my 2007 Civic's janky 12V port (never bothered to try it in another car). The brilliant part about this thing is really that wireless remote, I didn't even use that wheel bracelet it comes with, just Velcro'd it to a slot on my Civic's steering wheel and it damn near looks stock. I've no idea what kinda wireless protocol they use or whether it communicates with the phone or directly with the base, I'm pretty sure it's the latter...
There's lots of Bluetooth devices like this one meant to sit in the dash or discretely below it, some might even be better suited if your aux jack and 12V port aren't immediately adjacent (I've seen smaller devices) or if they're pretty hidden (the mic on the LiquidAux isn't great), but I've NEVER seen one with a wireless remote like this (they often don't even have any kinda music playback controls)... And I've looked around occasionally too cause I've got several friends with semi recent 2009-2011 cars without BT built in for whom this would be an awesome gift (plus I'd kinda like a backup, I'm gonna be stuck with my Civic for a few more years still!).
If anyone knows of an alternative I'm all ears, I guess something like the Pebble (not necessarily a $150 smartwatch) that can control playback while another device handles BT streaming would sorta work but it seems like a workaround... I've no idea why Kensington stopped making this thing, it was kinda ahead of it's time IMO since piping music over BT wasn't anywhere near as common or popular when it came out, Android was barely catching on and iOS BT support lagged dumb phones...
In fact I remember being mildly annoyed that my Sony Ericsson dumb phone fully supported the playback controls on the remote yet iOS on my IPod touch (2nd gen) only allowed play/pause but no track skipping (things like that soured me on iOS, that was the one and only Apple device I owned, tho I'm glad to have tried it out). There's tons of BT-less cars on the road for which this would be a perfect solution. Someone oughta petition Kensington to bring it back or put out a rip off thru Kickstarter... I remember paying like $45 for it during a CompUSA sale (before they first closed, yes it's really that old, pretty sure it preceded the iOS version), beats the heck out of replacing your stereo deck just for BT IMO.
So I was apprehensive about purchasing an Ouya after finding out about the recovery issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2326377&highlight=let+ouya+know
http://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/1380/recovery-mode
But I went ahead and got one from Amazon anyway. Rooted it, running Nova Launcher rather than the Ouya one, Installed the Google Play Store.... XBMC ...
played a few games a bit.
It's not perfect. But I'm loving it anyway.
I just don't wanna brick it, so I haven't tried any of the alternate ROMs. I'd love to throw CM10 on this little cube.
Anyway. ...
If you love your Ouya... this is your thread.
Oscar_david said:
So I was apprehensive about purchasing an Ouya after finding out about the recovery issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2326377&highlight=let+ouya+know
http://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/1380/recovery-mode
But I went ahead and got one from Amazon anyway. Rooted it, running Nova Launcher rather than the Ouya one, Installed the Google Play Store.... XBMC ...
played a few games a bit.
It's not perfect. But I'm loving it anyway.
I just don't wanna brick it, so I haven't tried any of the alternate ROMs. I'd love to throw CM10 on this little cube.
Anyway. ...
If you love your Ouya... this is your thread.
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I love it! it works perfectly as a low power media center and the games I run on it work well. I'm just having a hard time making it detect my SD card but i'm almost there...
I personally can't stand the overlay, so when I get the chance (and energy), I'll try to put CM10 on it, at which point I expect I'll be fine with it. The controller is awful though (for me, anyway), so I'm looking forward to connecting some cheap USB hardware once I get back to school to use it as a media server. I require basically nothing else from it.
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I personally can't stand the overlay, so when I get the chance (and energy), I'll try to put CM10 on it, at which point I expect I'll be fine with it. The controller is awful though (for me, anyway), so I'm looking forward to connecting some cheap USB hardware once I get back to school to use it as a media server. I require basically nothing else from it.
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Its perfect as media server. USB keyboard and mouse work great on it. In the mean time, try blue board.
Also by overlay, I assume you mean the interface itself. You can just install Nova Launcher.
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Oscar_david said:
Its perfect as media server. USB keyboard and mouse work great on it. In the mean time, try blue board.
Also by overlay, I assume you mean the interface itself. You can just install Nova Launcher.
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The launcher is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to annoyances: a lot of things I do daily on other devices involve weird workarounds and jumping through "user-friendly" panels. I really don't have a patience with most customized skins, so it's really not worth my time until I can flash CM. As with all things, mileage varies, so take this for what it is.
I personally enjoy the Interface. Coming from an MK808 with a stock Android experience, screwing with the UI using an Airmouse or controller was a pain in the butt. I love the simplicity and being able to just pick what I want and go.
I could see if you are using it more as a media server. But just for playing games (what I purchased it for) the UI is awesome.
The Gamepad leaves a little to be desired for. Really, nothing beats a PS3 gamepad for retro gaming. The OUYA gamepad feels nice, but it feels like a 360 pad... with its iffy circle dpad. The controller responds very well but the dpad makes retro gaming a bit cumbersome. The PS3 is also lighter and just feels right. Fortunately the PS3 pad pairs effortlessly and has become my main go to for EMU's.
Overall I love it. Mine took a factory reset before it saw my USB HDD, but good to go. The Ouya Store is a little cluttered. They have Top Favorites like 5 times and each has duplicate games... so you keep seeing the same ones over and over. Right now, the store is barren, so finding something is easy if you search by categories. This WILL be a problem as it expands.
I'd also like to see some simple categories like Top Ten Downloaded, Most Liked, and Newest Releases... even "Latest Updates" which just shows apps that have been updated. This would be nice since some early versions have bugs. On several occasions I have passed up an app because of issues, then forget about it only to find later it was fixed pretty quickly.
There is a lack of online multiplayer apps. Local Multiplayer Emulators is mostly what I purchased the console for in the first place. And that it does almost flawlessly.
I absolutely LOVE my OUYA! I love the interface and even the controller, even with the less than perfect D-pad. I've had more fun with some of these games than I have on my 360 in a long time. And actually I've played more games for longer since I got my OUYA than all year on my PS3/360/PC (excluding MMO's)
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I'd also like to see some simple categories like Top Ten Downloaded, Most Liked, and Newest Releases... even "Latest Updates" which just shows apps that have been updated. This would be nice since some early versions have bugs. On several occasions I have passed up an app because of issues, then forget about it only to find later it was fixed pretty quickly.
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I think this is something they're working on. They actually added a "New Release" category yesterday that made me happy, although I'm not sure how they sort it because some of the new releases were not actually on there. Even then, they need less top 5 lists and more broad categories with SUB categories. I believe 1 level deep should solve a lot of the problems we're currently seeing.
Love my ouya, but have nothing to compare with, i am a pc user.
Bought it for the games and then discovered the emulators. Installed battle city and having the blast with my friend.
Also bought the hocky kickass game and got owned by my little bro :/
So ye, perfectly satisfied with myvpurchase.
And also a big thumb to all the devs, and moders to make it even awesomer
My history and experiences are a bit different but my reactions are similar to everyone else here.
I started messing around with "hacking" game consoles about 10 years ago with an Xbox 1. Pretty quickly became a serious XBMC user.
I actually was only initially interested in the Ouya as a way to get a tiny / silent dedicated XBMC box. The fact that it is a hacker-friendly box that runs Android and is sort of an indie game haven did not hurt at all.
I honestly didn't expect to use it for gaming at all, but I've been surprised to find that that's mostly what I use it for.
The whole "everything is free to try!" model changed the way I found and bought games. The fact that almost all the games are cheap as hell compared to "real" console games doesn't hurt either.
I have done several Kickstarter items in the past, and so I know that the Ouya team is smaller than they should be and has had to solve a lot of unexpected issues along the way, so I am not surprised that a bunch of unsolved issues remain. However, overall I am satisfied with all that it does. There are seriously a bunch of great Ouya games, like TowerFall, Bomb Squad, Hidden In Plain Sight, The Little Crane That Could, etc.
I have been a pretty busy guy in general lately, and so I honestly don't feel like I have the time to play some of these 80+ hour AAA titles that are around right now. In that respect the Ouya has been great. Every aspect of the commitment level from the user is significantly less than other consoles, and I like that.
As others have said, there are some things about the system that bug me, but overall, I can't be bothered with ROMs right now.
It does everything I want already, and the random cool crap you theoretically could maybe do with a ROM doesn't presently overrule my fear that I may brick my Ouya.
At this point I think my laziness also is a big thing. It works well enough as is, so I'm not sufficiently motivated to mess with it yet. Obviously, me browsing this forum means I'm thinking about it though
I am loving my ouya as well! And my roomate who has berated me about my purchase since january, calling ouya an obvious failure, conceded. After having it for 2 days, he stated he is going to pick one up for himself now that they are supposedly available retail. if you went into this thing with reasonable expectations, you will be very happy. if you heard "console" and thought "PS3.5" you are going to be disappointed, but whatever man, you were a fool so GFY.
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I love mine. It likes to fight, but I like to fight back. Getting it to function perfectly is a game itself. As far as games, I recommend You Don't Know Jack and Vendetta Online. Good games that work great; vendetta just isn't consistent with what the menus say controls are.
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I got it for retro gaming and sideload some better emulators and it works great. Can't wait for better roms tho
At this point I'm unimpressed. It feels like it needed another 6 months in development, especially the UI. The library is also very week. There are a few gems like towerfall, but the vast majority of games don't warrant more than 3 minutes of play.
I was underwhelmed at first but now I have the play store, access to my games, emulators, and another launcher running I love it.
I think I will have to purchase a usb hub and a mouse and keyboard before I am truely happy.
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I'm LOVING my Ouya!
Towerfall might be my favorite multiplayer game ever!
My OUYA is amazing. Rooted and CWM already. But still waiting for goog CM port on it)
I still feel burned over the recovery issue - they shouldn't have sold it as open the way they did if they weren't planning on actually living up to that claim....
But....
Overall I'm still extremely happy with mine. The original controllers I got were absolute trash, but they replaced them quickly when I contacted support (thankfully I got mine in late May before they ran out of replacement controllers) and the replacements are fine. The wireless has me wondering if they actually had anyone with any kind of RF experience involved in the design - wifi is horrible and the bluetooth isn't much better. Sitting just 10' from mine the controllers will freak out if I don't sit forward in my seat with a completely unobstructed path between them and the Ouya. The interface isn't great and the Discover section needs a TON of work....but that's software and I'm sure we'll see some major changes there sooner rather than later.
Due to the recovery issue I haven't done much hacking on mine other than root/busybox and a few things like Titanium. But that wasn't my main reason for wanting it - it was what put me over the edge since I figured it was a good price for a Tegra3 board to play with if Ouya tanked....but I was still hoping they'd pull it off and have some decent games. And while the game selection isn't anything to get excited about just yet...it's been getting better and better quicker and quicker and I've had no problem finding games I want to play on it. Heck I've actually bought more games on it than I did for my Wii (the last console I bought) which is mostly due to the fact that while I've bought more games for the Ouya than I did for the Wii I've spent less on games for the Ouya than I did on just one game for the Wii
The main reason I'm happy with it though is because I do believe in the dream and I do love Indie games. And even better having this thing sitting here has finally gotten me to get serious about sinking my teeth into Java and Android development. I cobbled together a few quick and dirty sample apps a few years ago before I even had an android device to run them on (ran them on the emulator and then my wife's phone since she got to upgrade a year before me) but haven't gone any further because while I may be able to sling some code I'm just not that good at making things look nice and my co-workers who are are apple guys who don't want to help me develop for Android. But they're also gamers and are interested in the Ouya so we're finally on the same page and working on some ideas. I was blown away by how easily I was able to get some simple game proof of concepts functional and so was my co-worker. It's been a dream of mine to make my own game for a console since I got my first Atari 2600. I looked into the Wii homebrew scene...but again none of my graphically gifted co-workers had a Wii and weren't interested in doing anything for it so I never got past some quick test code. To finally have a system I can make code for and a friend who's interested in joining forces to make something....it's a dream come true.
Now if I just had more time to play games on it and/or write more code for it
I love this machine! Much better when its Rooted/CWM, its great to have friends over and hookup ps3 controllers to play Smash Bros or play any EMU games, and super portable for travelling.
I'm not already hooked by my Ouya (well almost)
I think it's really a matter of youthness : I'm currently a little disapointed by the quality of the graphics on the games, and to be honest I'm not that fan of graphics
But I can't help to notice the graphics gap between Android mobile games and Ouya games whereas our little square friend pack a very capable GPU (Tegra 3)
I also miss mass player online games which is for me a nice argument for Ouya (I do have friends !)
Again I think the future will be beautifull since Ouya games currently available are essentially from indie enthousiastics who don't have necessary big fund
Finally, I don't regret my Ouya AT ALL, I'm really happy to be a baker
i find it a bit odd how people often emphasize that they use it mainly for emulating the classic consoles.
people could have saved themselves a great bit of money by just buying some no-brand Android device, and even gotten a device that was pre rooted, had official Play store, hardware recovery option 5 full size USB plugs, bluetooth and even SD slot. All for something like half the prize of the OUYA.
At this point i must say i am not to crazy about it. i feel that OUYA have really made an effort in locking down the console rather than living up to their promise of openness. Everything from the OUYA launcher being a walled garden, to no direct access to your own file system, no root access / superuser priviledges, no hardware option for recovery state and no play store access.
i really like the look and also the controller. But i also got this for a silent XBMC dedicated device. i will however wait for a linux based build before that dream come through. i was hoping that i could play and hack around with until then. But without a hardware recovery option, i will just wait for a good Linux based XBMC port instead.
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The Lenovo Lynx is not exactly a hot-selling item worldwide, and so naturally there is not much discussion on this Windows 8 tablet on these or other forums.
There are however a few threads on XDA about one or other issue relating to the Lynx, so I thought of creating a thread where all of us could come together and share problems, solutions and tips.
I'll start off with some useful links:
USER GUIDE
HARDWARE MAINTENANCE MANUAL
You should already have done the free upgrade to Windows 8.1 (if it didn't come preinstalled) For those who did not do the upgrade, here are a few useful links after you do the upgrade from the Windows store.
Intel Video driver for Windows 8.1 (32-bit) - IdeaTab Lynx K3011
Total Driver Package for Windows 8.1 (32-bit) - IdeaTab Lync K3011
And here is how to get into the Lenovo Lynx Bootmenu/BIOS Setup:
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cgigate said:
it is too old product
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It's not that old... January 2013 release date
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I've had mine about 3 weeks and I'm starting to notice a screen burn effect around the edges of the screen. Particularly after using an app with a lot of white.
Anybody else have that issue?
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It's not that old... January 2013 release date
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I've had mine about 3 weeks and I'm starting to notice a screen burn effect around the edges of the screen. Particularly after using an app with a lot of white.
Anybody else have that issue?
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Tested my unit, can't find any screen burn or bleeding. Have you tried updating your video driver? Does the display have any other problems (jagged lines while switching apps, screen going blank, 'Video driver stopped working and has recovered' message popups etc?
I did have that last problem after I upgraded to 8.1, but it seems to have resolved itself after a Windows Update.
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Tested my unit, can't find any screen burn or bleeding. Have you tried updating your video driver? Does the display have any other problems (jagged lines while switching apps, screen going blank, 'Video driver stopped working and has recovered' message popups etc?
I did have that last problem after I upgraded to 8.1, but it seems to have resolved itself after a Windows Update.
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I actually have tried 4 different versions of the display driver. I've used 1099, 1177, 1160, and 1130. 1130 is the only one that doesn't give me the "driver stopped working" message. What driver version are you using? And could you list what Windows updates you have installed?
No jagged lines at all. No blank screen.
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I actually have tried 4 different versions of the display driver. I've used 1099, 1177, 1160, and 1130. 1130 is the only one that doesn't give me the "driver stopped working" message. What driver version are you using? And could you list what Windows updates you have installed?
No jagged lines at all. No blank screen.
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I'm on 1177.
All updates available are installed.
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I ordered a Refurb from Newegg for $239 yesterday, it should be here by Friday, I'm really looking forward to turning it on for the first time.
I love Android but only on my phone, Never liked it on tablets.. was always left disappointed.
I searched for awhile and couldn't find a dock for it, the only place I found was on amazon and it's "Currently unavailable".
I was hoping to find one on ebay for a decent price, I might go with a Bluetooth Keyboard + Leather Case from ebay.
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I ordered a Refurb from Newegg for $239 yesterday, it should be here by Friday, I'm really looking forward to turning it on for the first time.
I love Android but only on my phone, Never liked it on tablets.. was always left disappointed.
I searched for awhile and couldn't find a dock for it, the only place I found was on amazon and it's "Currently unavailable".
I was hoping to find one on ebay for a decent price, I might go with a Bluetooth Keyboard + Leather Case from ebay.
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Congrats on your purchase. If I were you I would try and find the lynx dock for it... you get an additional battery (it adds 4-5 hours easy) two full-size USB ports, and a trackpad (trackpad is kinda jumpy, though), and you can easily work with the docked tablet in your lap, or tilt the screen at any angle you like.
Getting a keyboard folio won't have all these conveniences.
Do let us know all your impressions of your new tablet.
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Congrats on your purchase. If I were you I would try and find the lynx dock for it... you get an additional battery (it adds 4-5 hours easy) two full-size USB ports, and a trackpad (trackpad is kinda jumpy, though), and you can easily work with the docked tablet in your lap, or tilt the screen at any angle you like.
Getting a keyboard folio won't have all these conveniences.
Do let us know all your impressions of your new tablet.
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I usually can find almost anything i search for, it's crazy that i can't find the freaking dock for the lynx.
I might have to just get the BT Keyboard and a 12000mAh External Battery Pack.
Is anyone having issue with xbmc when watching video? It plays the video however I can't see the video because of grey overlay on video. Anyone having similar experience with xbmc? I don't have such issue with vlc player.
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Is anyone having issue with xbmc when watching video? It plays the video however I can't see the video because of grey overlay on video. Anyone having similar experience with xbmc? I don't have such issue with vlc player.
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Try turning hardware acceleration/ DXVA to 'off'
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Try turning hardware acceleration/ DXVA to 'off'
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thank you very much that worked for me. how is aamchi mumbai?
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thank you very much that worked for me. how is aamchi mumbai?
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Glad it worked for you.
Mumbai's cool.
I just installed a 64gb SD card. It works ok.
And I question. My biggest problem with Lenovo lynx in win 8.1 is still the same: I want to do some things with the screen off. But every time I shut the screen off everything stops. Any help on this? Thanks.
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I just installed a 64gb SD card. It works ok.
And I question. My biggest problem with Lenovo lynx in win 8.1 is still the same: I want to do some things with the screen off. But every time I shut the screen off everything stops. Any help on this? Thanks.
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Have you tried this:
Go to Control Panel>Power Options>Change Advanced Power Settings and change value for Turn off Display = After 1 min.
Check if after that 1 min, does only the display go off or the PC goes to sleep?
Also change the values for Lid close action = Do nothing
itsnotmeatall said:
Have you tried this:
Go to Control Panel>Power Options>Change Advanced Power Settings and change value for Turn off Display = After 1 min.
Check if after that 1 min, does only the display go off or the PC goes to sleep?
Also change the values for Lid close action = Do nothing
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Yes. Nothing of those settings works if cpu is clovertrail. Always go to sleep.
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I love this tablet, newegg sent me one with a broken left speaker though, and I am trying to get it replaced, but seems like it will be a hassle.
My messages to newegg on ebay so far ...
Dear *****,
Thank you for contacting Newegg. We apologize for the delay in response time due to the enormous order volume from Black Friday, Cyber Monday and Holiday's. We answer emails in the order that they are received. If your inquiry has already been resolved, please do not reply to this email. If you have sent us multiple inquires and we have already replied, please only respond to us one time. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
I apologize to hear this, and would be glad to assist you with your return. This is a non-refundable item, so I will be able to help you return this item and have a replacement order sent out. I just need a little more information first. 1. Do you still have the original packaging and any accessory that was originally included? 2. Can you please give a detailed reason for the return?
Please let us know if you have any further questions or concerns. We'll be more than glad to assist you. Until then, thank you for contacting Newegg. Have an EGGcellent day!
Christine Z.
- newegg
My response...
Dear newegg,
I upgraded the tablet to windows 8.1...other than that the tablet is in the same condition I received it in.
I have the boxes it came in and I have the charger that doesn't seem to work with the tablet
- *****
Newegg's response..
Dear *****,
Thank you for contacting Newegg. We apologize for the delay in response time due to the enormous order volume from Black Friday, Cyber Monday and Holiday's. We answer emails in the order that they are received. If your inquiry has already been resolved, please do not reply to this email. If you have sent us multiple inquires and we have already replied, please only respond to us one time. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
Please kindly note that all the items must be returned in the original 100% entirety, including all original packages and accessories, or the RMA would be denied. Could you please confirm if you still have the original system? Thank you for your understanding.
Please let us know if you have any further questions or concerns. We'll be more than glad to assist you. Until then, thank you for contacting Newegg. Have an EGGcellent day!
Christine Z.
- newegg
My response
Dear newegg,
As i said ...
"I upgraded the tablet to windows 8.1...other than that the tablet is in the same condition I received it in.
I have the boxes it came in and I have the charger that doesn't seem to work with the tablet"
I do not understand your statement "original system", what are you referring to?
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I hope they aren't trying to say i can't RMA because i upgraded it to 8.1 before i realized the **** had a broken speaker and defective charger.
But if i can't RMA, hopefully it's just the speaker that is broken and not the board, maybe if i could find a replacement speaker I'd just replace the broken speaker myself. But i get the sense that even with both speakers working the sound on this tablet will still be low, and i've read as much
sosimple said:
Yes. Nothing of those settings works if cpu is clovertrail. Always go to sleep.
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I think the only option is to use metro apps. From reports on other forums it seems as if metro apps can keep clovertrail tabs awake even when the display is off, but legacy windows apps cannot. So if whatever you are doing (downloading, rendering, transferring etc) can be done with a metro app from windows store, that could be a solution.
skuly said:
I love this tablet, newegg sent me one with a broken left speaker though, and I am trying to get it replaced, but seems like it will be a hassle.
I hope they aren't trying to say i can't RMA because i upgraded it to 8.1 before i realized the **** had a broken speaker and defective charger.
But if i can't RMA, hopefully it's just the speaker that is broken and not the board, maybe if i could find a replacement speaker I'd just replace the broken speaker myself. But i get the sense that even with both speakers working the sound on this tablet will still be low, and i've read as much
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I don't think having upgraded to 8.1 should be a problem. It is after all an official upgrade of the preinstalled OS.
Here in India, when I called up the service station with a battery problem (my dock battery was not working) the customer care guys kept trying to tell me to 'take the battery out and put it back in!'
The Lynx is such a rare item that none of those customer service execs had been trained for it!
I eventually had to visit a service station personally to get the dock battery replaced (when that did not fix the problem they replaced the circuit board as well).
But you should get them to replace the speaker and charger. Like in my case, the problem could be with the board.
I am not going to rma it over the broken speaker, Pay to ship it back to them and probably wait a month to get the replacement.. and the sound probably will still be low.
From the reviews i read the sound isn't that loud or good even with both speakers.
Newegg really sucks, it's been years since i bought anything from newegg but i never had problems like this with them before. I feel like i'm talking to a chat bot or something, actually a chat bot probably would be better to deal with.
skuly said:
I am not going to rma it over the broken speaker, Pay to ship it back to them and probably wait a month to get the replacement.. and the sound probably will still be low.
From the reviews i read the sound isn't that loud or good even with both speakers.
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You're right. Well, if you are planning to replace the speakers yourself, do post a detailed WIP here so we can all benefit. You might have to get the actual speakers from some other device and somehow get them to fit in the slots inside the Lynx.
Though since you're looking for a bluetooth keyboard anyway, you can get one which has built-in speakers.
Or even something like this:
With the release of the tablet, some people were saddened at the fact that they couldn't portable game anywhere, similar to what you could do with the original Shield Portable. Especially since it doesn't have built in controls like the portable or other handheld devices
But that certainly can't be the end of it. It should still be possible to play anywhere like with the Shield Portable, with an attachable Gamepad, or a gameklip type of device
Here is one add on that apparently works with the Shield Tablet. not sure if it'll work in gamestreaming, but from what i've heard so far, it works great with android emulators.
- Ipega PG 9023
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixFXcDQbrQM
2. Another is called the utorcase
http://www.shapeways.com/model/2491653/ps4-controller-nvidia-shield-tablet.html?materialId=25
Anyone here have any other options, or ways to turn their tablet into a portable game machine? Certainly there have to be more attachable gamepads, or better ways to mount your tablet to your controller, without the feeling being too bulky.
Hello,
Gamepad Ipega 9023 really surprised me, exactly I was looking for something like this, though perhaps with this gamepad + tablet will be a problem to reach with your thumb on the touch screen display when the index finger on R1 or R2 button. I am now waiting until I arrives, then we'll see
gameklip utorcase - it can be a problem. Problem is center of gravity, the device is heavier, this will not be comfortable to holding for me.
I prefer to gaming on tablet Toshiba Encore 8 with Windows 8.1, where I play GTA4 or Crysis 1 without streaming and long battery life.
I show you my invention - gamepad with which you can easily control First person shooter game with a thumb riding the touch screen display and special ergonomics - buttons below the display .Gamepad is very small and mobile.
Counter-Strike: Source
Crysis 1:
John6670 said:
With the release of the tablet, some people were saddened at the fact that they couldn't portable game anywhere, similar to what you could do with the original Shield Portable. Especially since it doesn't have built in controls like the portable or other handheld devices
But that certainly can't be the end of it. It should still be possible to play anywhere like with the Shield Portable, with an attachable Gamepad, or a gameklip type of device
Here is one add on that apparently works with the Shield Tablet. not sure if it'll work in gamestreaming, but from what i've heard so far, it works great with android emulators.
- Ipega PG 9023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixFXcDQbrQM
2. Another is called the utorcase
http://www.shapeways.com/model/2491653/ps4-controller-nvidia-shield-tablet.html?materialId=25
Anyone here have any other options, or ways to turn their tablet into a portable game machine? Certainly there have to be more attachable gamepads, or better ways to mount your tablet to your controller, without the feeling being too bulky.
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Either that PS3 controller has lead in the grips or this is staged. Seems no way the weight would keep it from tipping.
I think that's a faux-tablet for displays. Also, that's a PS4 controller, but they're not heavier than PS3 controllers.
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Either that PS3 controller has lead in the grips or this is staged. Seems no way the weight would keep it from tipping.
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Good news. video of the ipega 9023 with the Shield Tablet in action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2BPhnRWd6Q
Apparently works during gamestreaming. If you guys have any questions, be sure to ask him in the video
Just ordered the ipega 9023. Seemed like a cool thing to try. Now gotta sit back and wait for it to ship from China.
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I think that's a faux-tablet for displays. Also, that's a PS4 controller, but they're not heavier than PS3 controllers.
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Hello Guys.
UtorCase maker here.
Re UtorCase photos for small tablets
I did use a small support for the photos, so the unit does not tip over. Still, using UtorCase with a large phone or a small tablet is perfectly convenient. These small tablets are extremly lightweight around 300-400 grams, so you can hardly notice their weight while playing with a Utorcase. Here is a review from another XDA member http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/accessories/utorcase-controller-mount-ps3-ps4-360-t2807699 for the largish Xperia Ultra Z.
Will be putting up some in game / in hand pics soon, but meanwhile you can also see a video with a small tablet in action in the middle for the Xbox 360...
Finally, what controller could be better for gaming than the good old PS and Xbox controllers?
Nice to hear from you. I am going to be purchasing one of your cases(is it really a case? It's more like a bracket....) for my phone. Would you consider making one that will fit the Shield Controller to the Shield Tablet?
giorgio79 said:
Hello Guys.
UtorCase maker here.
Re UtorCase photos for small tablets
I did use a small support for the photos, so the unit does not tip over. Still, using UtorCase with a large phone or a small tablet is perfectly convenient. These small tablets are extremly lightweight around 300-400 grams, so you can hardly notice their weight while playing with a Utorcase. Here is a review from another XDA member http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/accessories/utorcase-controller-mount-ps3-ps4-360-t2807699 for the largish Xperia Ultra Z.
Will be putting up some in game / in hand pics soon, but meanwhile you can also see a video with a small tablet in action in the middle for the Xbox 360...
Finally, what controller could be better for gaming than the good old PS and Xbox controllers?
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I wanted to buy the ipega while i wait for the gamegrip STG one to eventually hit the market. Sadly, the ipega has been rumored to have horrible deadzones. Upon request, a brand new buyer tested his for the camera, and it looks to be a defect thats baked in as a "Feature".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7-Lp7i4iV0
Its unlikely based on ipega's past, that there will be a firmware update to correct the problem, nor is there any guarantee the micro usb port interfaces with the controllers microcontroller
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Nice to hear from you. I am going to be purchasing one of your cases(is it really a case? It's more like a bracket....) for my phone. Would you consider making one that will fit the Shield Controller to the Shield Tablet?
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Hi,
Thanks! Yeah the naming is tricky. Utor is a latin word meaning "to fetch / to enjoy", and I kind a liked it. Otherwise, yes UtorCase is more of a bracket.
I have some requests for the Shield Controller, so I am currently looking at it. I would like to see the Shield controller getting some traction, but given the Shield tablet is compatible with PS4 and X1 or X360 controllers I am unsure that will happen.
I can see your point about controller popularity. It also seems a little silly to attach the two, considering that's kinda what the Shield Portable is.
giorgio79 said:
Hi,
Thanks! Yeah the naming is tricky. Utor is a latin word meaning "to fetch / to enjoy", and I kind a liked it. Otherwise, yes UtorCase is more of a bracket.
I have some requests for the Shield Controller, so I am currently looking at it. I would like to see the Shield controller getting some traction, but given the Shield tablet is compatible with PS4 and X1 or X360 controllers I am unsure that will happen.
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IPEGA PG 9023 - deadzones for the analog sticks tests are my videos
- no problem for me ,I prefer D-Pad + touch mouse pointer on my tablet Toshiba Encore with Windows 8.1 32bit
if I can still here a small sample of gaming:
according to me better than NVidia shield? None streaming and long battery life
NFS: Most Wanted, NHL 09:
Soldier of Fortune 2:
here is a video from nielo, reviewing the Ipega9023
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCO7pK-uvts
I soldered on a ps3 Six axis joystick replacing the right stick. The dead zone dissapeared, but the fitmware was written to work around the shoddu sticks. The usability has improved somewhat but the acceleration is way off. Looks like there isn't an easy way to make the ipega useable for fps play.
Hey,
UtorCase now has a pretty sweet "over the controller" version. Check it out
https://www.shapeways.com/product/QTKWBW72G
I own both the ipega and the sixaxis. The analog dead zone issue for the ipega is very noticeable, driving games and FPS are a pain.. Things like 3rd person shooters are more playable but is very difficult to aim precicely.. Dpad is decent but unusable with beat em ups. Also i can't play any GRID game with ipega connected, maybe is a bluetooth-wifi issue. The sixaxis works great, to connect via cable and without root I use sixaxis enabler, the only problem I found is some dpad issue on grid games, it seems to work in menu but not in games (like switching weapons)
jnnar said:
I own both the ipega and the sixaxis. The analog dead zone issue for the ipega is very noticeable, driving games and FPS are a pain.. Things like 3rd person shooters are more playable but is very difficult to aim precicely.. Dpad is decent but unusable with beat em ups. Also i can't play any GRID game with ipega connected, maybe is a bluetooth-wifi issue. The sixaxis works great, to connect via cable and without root I use sixaxis enabler, the only problem I found is some dpad issue on grid games, it seems to work in menu but not in games (like switching weapons)
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Odd I've been playing grid since day one with my ipega.... Picked it right up and ran (played dead island) my router fails the big one so I didn't get far. But it did work.....
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Odd I've been playing grid since day one with my ipega.... Picked it right up and ran (played dead island) my router fails the big one so I didn't get far. But it did work.....
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I can run the GRID app with the ipega on, and start every game, but is totally unplayable (lag-stuttering-freeze-force close of the app). I started to blame the ipega the first time i tried the ps3 controller. Also i have a FTTH 100mbps connection so it should works very good (and it does without the ipega)
jnnar said:
I can run the GRID app with the ipega on, and start every game, but is totally unplayable (lag-stuttering-freeze-force close of the app). I started to blame the ipega the first time i tried the ps3 controller. Also i have a FTTH 100mbps connection so it should works very good (and it does without the ipega)
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Is your router using the 2.4ghz band? Maybe the iPega bluetooth signal is interfering with the shield signal - try using the 5ghz if available. I'll try to run some tests myself, as soon as I get back my GTX970 from the RMA.