N4 T-Mobile LTE vs Other LTE phones - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys, I've been looking into this some and I wonder if someone could clarify it all for me. I know that LTE works for AWS bands on the N4. However, I've also read that it lacks needed hardware (amplifier) for official compatibility. Can someone explain the differences I will see between using LTE on the Nexus 4 vs my Note 2? Will the signal strength be lower? Will it drain my battery a lot faster than it should?
FYI, All I care about on Batter Life is getting through a day. If it meets that, I'm happy.

The Nexus 4 has a LTE chip but it's disabled. You can only use HSPA+ on it. It was never certified via the FCC so it can't be used. Despite this, there has been a work around to enable LTE on the Nexus 4. Previously on the older update (4.2.1 with .33 radio baseband) LTE was easily accessed for use. But after the 4.2.2 update with .48 radio baseband Google blocked LTE access completely. However this is loophole created to make LTE work while on a older baseband by editing a file in the system.
Some folks have reported their service has gotten better with LTE and some have said battery life gotten better somehow.
In sum, the Nexus 4 doesn't really have LTE.
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scream4cheese said:
The Nexus 4 has a LTE chip but it's disabled. You can only use HSPA+ on it. It was never certified via the FCC so it can't be used. Despite this, there has been a work around to enable LTE on the Nexus 4. Previously on the older update (4.2.1 with .33 radio baseband) LTE was easily accessed for use. But after the 4.2.2 update with .48 radio baseband Google blocked LTE access completely. However this is loophole created to make LTE work while on a older baseband by editing a file in the system.
Some folks have reported their service has gotten better with LTE and some have said battery life gotten better somehow.
In sum, the Nexus 4 doesn't really have LTE.
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Thank you for your reply. I understand all of what you said. What I'm looking for are the specifics. Are there any problems observed with using the Nexus 4 for LTE after the hacks have been done?

Poke_N_PDA said:
Thank you for your reply. I understand all of what you said. What I'm looking for are the specifics. Are there any problems observed with using the Nexus 4 for LTE after the hacks have been done?
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At the moment, there are none.
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Will there be a LTE version?

i know everyone is all omg the nexus 4 doesn't have 4g LTE but do you think that later on they will make a LTE version? Wouldent google make more money off the nexus 4 if they did have a lte version? after all whats the point of all that hardware if you cant download and watch videos super fast
I highly doubt it since Google wants this to be a world phone.
prkchop said:
i know everyone is all omg the nexus 4 doesn't have 4g LTE but do you think that later on they will make a LTE version? Wouldent google make more money off the nexus 4 if they did have a lte version? after all whats the point of all that hardware if you cant download and watch videos super fast
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I'm interested in this too. Would love to get a nexus 4 on Verizon with LTE. And if the software updates came strait from Google, it would be fantastic.
Its been said that no. No LTE version at all. But that's fine for me. The Galaxy Nexus is still a pretty good alternative.
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Jimlarck said:
Its been said that no. No LTE version at all. But that's fine for me. The Galaxy Nexus is still a pretty good alternative.
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Nope, LTE is to much work on Google's end. Look at all the hussy behind the LTE version of the GNexus. Google wants this to be a world phone. having LTE would cause way to many issues. You have to partner with carriers, and allow them to handle updates. It adds bloat, and wouldn't be an AOSP phone.
Look at this. It's a link to theverge explaining all of this.
Verizon don't co-operate very well with OEM's. There's probably a high chance they will put a locked down bootloader on a Developers phone.
Also why do you need LTE when you look at how fast T-Mobiles 42mbps is. My wifes Note 2 gets 20mbps on avg in Minneapolis area. So there is no need to over pay for Verizon and LTE.

[Q] Does the 4.4 update re-enable LTE on Nexus 4???

Hey guys, Im just wondering if LTE has been enabled on the new Android 4.4 Kitkat update. As we all know google had eliminated the LTE capacity on the N4, its only been achievable by using hybrid radios. Any news about this would be awesome. Thanks!
elnegrobuster said:
Hey guys, Im just wondering if LTE has been enabled on the new Android 4.4 Kitkat update. As we all know google had eliminated the LTE capacity on the N4, its only been achievable by using hybrid radios. Any news about this would be awesome. Thanks!
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If you take 1.5 minutes of your time to read the LTE threads, you'd be able to find out without making a new thread...
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it would be illegal for google to activate lte on the phone. the fcc never approved lte for the nexus 4, that means itll never ever get official lte.
simms22 said:
it would be illegal for google to activate lte on the phone. the fcc never approved lte for the nexus 4, that means itll never ever get official lte.
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Also, the hardware doesn't support all the LTE bands currently in use (or it's missing an amplifier for some) so it would be a half-measure anyway.

[Q] [T-Mobile] VZW S5 Poor Performance on T-Mobile - Bad ROM?

Hello All,
I have 2 Verizon Wireless Galaxy S5s running on T-Mobile, but the performance is awful.
LTE is highly unstable
Overall radio signal in the same place can go from 4 bars to 0
Text messages don't send 1/2 the time, especially over Wi-Fi
Currently I'm running Rick'sRom V20 on 4.4.4 NK2.
I do not want to have to sell the S5 to buy a T-Mobile handset, as I have heard others having good experience taking other World-Devices from VZW to T-Mo without these sort of issues.
Is there anything I can do to improve this? Flash any newer ROM or radio?
Please let me know, thank you!
-Taxmaster
Taxmaster said:
Hello All,
I have 2 Verizon Wireless Galaxy S5s running on T-Mobile, but the performance is awful.
LTE is highly unstable
Overall radio signal in the same place can go from 4 bars to 0
Text messages don't send 1/2 the time, especially over Wi-Fi
Currently I'm running Rick'sRom V20 on 4.4.4 NK2.
I do not want to have to sell the S5 to buy a T-Mobile handset, as I have heard others having good experience taking other World-Devices from VZW to T-Mo without these sort of issues.
Is there anything I can do to improve this? Flash any newer ROM or radio?
Please let me know, thank you!
-Taxmaster
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Wouldn't hurt to try different modems to see if one works better than the next. Here is an article on how to see what band your phones are operating on. My understanding is you need to be on band 4. I checked to see if this works on the galaxy s5 and it does. Mine is running on band 4.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...enable-band-4-aws-sm-n900v-requires-root.html
Tulsadiver said:
Wouldn't hurt to try different modems to see if one works better than the next. Here is an article on how to see what band your phones are operating on. My understanding is you need to be on band 4. I checked to see if this works on the galaxy s5 and it does. Mine is running on band 4.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...enable-band-4-aws-sm-n900v-requires-root.html
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Which ROM are you running by chance?
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Verizon Galaxy Note 2 (SCH-I605)
Unlocked, Overclocked, and Undervolted
Bean's ROM 22 w/SaberKernel 42.4
RicksRom v19
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RicksRom v19
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How would you say your performance has been? Do you ever experience the phantom changes in signal strength like I had indicated above?
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Never. I've been running different versions of RicksRom since back when we first got root and I was on NGC 4.4.2. Never any issues at all.

[Q] Nexus 4 LTE in Switzerland?

Hey guys
First of all: Yes, i did do some research, but have not found that much.
I digged out mi old nexus 4 these days, as i need a second mobile for now.
Back in the days where i actively used it, everyone was talking about the nexus 4 having an lte chip.
So i have root and all this, but i don't now, if there is a working modem for the frequencies in switzerland out yet. Specificly for the provider swisscom.
I do not really know where to search and hope some of you guys know better if it is possible to use LTE on my Nexus 4.
ClisClis said:
Hey guys
First of all: Yes, i did do some research, but have not found that much.
I digged out mi old nexus 4 these days, as i need a second mobile for now.
Back in the days where i actively used it, everyone was talking about the nexus 4 having an lte chip.
So i have root and all this, but i don't now, if there is a working modem for the frequencies in switzerland out yet. Specificly for the provider swisscom.
I do not really know where to search and hope some of you guys know better if it is possible to use LTE on my Nexus 4.
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@ClisClis
Nexus 4 only supports band 4 lte. According to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
no carrier in Switzerland uses band 4.
Not what i was hoping to hear, but thank you!

Using Exynos S7 Edge on T-Mobile

Hi, I've only ever used the carrier-supplied phones on their networks. However, I'm thinking of getting the international version of the S7 Edge due to the Exynos processor. I'm wondering about the following though:
1. Will network performance be ideal? ie. Could some missing band support mean I don't get full speed?
2. How will updates pushed by T-Mobile work? I understand there will be an update for the new 4x range LTE band which has better building penetration. Would an international variant of the phone on T-Mobile receive such an update AND/OR be able to make use of the new band?
Thanks,
Steven
Network performance should be fine as long as the variant you pick up has proper bands.
Updates will be pushed by Samsung instead of Tmobile with an unlocked variant.
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smrxxx said:
Hi, I've only ever used the carrier-supplied phones on their networks. However, I'm thinking of getting the international version of the S7 Edge due to the Exynos processor. I'm wondering about the following though:
1. Will network performance be ideal? ie. Could some missing band support mean I don't get full speed?
2. How will updates pushed by T-Mobile work? I understand there will be an update for the new 4x range LTE band which has better building penetration. Would an international variant of the phone on T-Mobile receive such an update AND/OR be able to make use of the new band?
Thanks,
Steven
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Do you think the difference is really worth it if there is even a difference?
From what I've seen one is better with certain things and the other is better with other things but even then the difference is very small.
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I've been thinking of selling my tmobile s7 edge and get the international one. I switched from an iPhone 6 plus to the s7 edge, and my god... This thing is a beauty. The only thing I miss from ios is the emoji, and that is the sole reason why I desperately need to root my device haha
Edit: I'm still new to the Android scene but if samsung push the update instead of tmobile, does that mean the international variant will get the update much earlier than the tmobile version?
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No WiFi calling, no volz... I'll pass. I can't live without the wifi calling feature.
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Richieboy67 said:
No WiFi calling, no volz... I'll pass. I can't live without the wifi calling feature.
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What's so great about WiFi calling?
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What's so great about WiFi calling?
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You get better signal for people who have none where they live. It's very, very usefull. I don't need it but I still leave it on. FwYh
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What's so great about WiFi calling?
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If you travel to other countries you can use Wi-Fi calling. I'm in the Philippines now and I can use Wi-Fi calling here and it's just like I'm in the USA.
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I could answer your first question as I have the exynos variant and am on the T-Mobile network in usa, yes for some reason there are a lot of network performance issues, when I first for the phone my LTE speeds tested to be 60 mbps now it's only 20-30!
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What's so great about WiFi calling?
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Perhaps you work in a large warehouse with poor cell signal or a large complex building such as a hospital. Perhaps your house is at the edge of coverage where signal is unstable. Plenty of reasons why wifi calling is useful for many people.
Wifi calling is not great but if you're in an area with poor indoor coverage, that's the only option.
My office just happens to be in a dead spot. When I walk outside, I have full bars. Even the tmobile repeater only picks up 2 bars. We have stable wifi so wifi calling works best. Sometime package drop affects phone quality issue but that's the nature of VoIP.
T-mobile Wi-Fi calling is a must for my phone. Tmobile service is not existent in hospitals, office buildings and sometimes on the other side of a tree.
I keep watching tekhd thread in international to see if that is one of the "T-Mobile" rom parts he gets working.
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I have the euro version on tmobile, and my speeds are the same as with the U.S version, also I live in nyc where tmobile service is great so I never use wifi calling. I do miss volte though.
so you get LTE speed and everything else, except VOLTE and wifi calling and oh samsung pay ( but android pay will do) right? Because I ordered 1 from amazon so we'll see
Any reason why would wifi calling not work on Tmobile? I was able to enable and use it on my N6P so I don't see why it would be different. If I believe the international version forum, the most recent update enabled it and numerous users report using it on other carriers.
Exynos Lte icons
Hello this might seem dumb but i can't find the answer anywhere. In the past i have owned phones that did not show lte on t-mobile and would instead show HSPA+ now on my s7 exynos it just shows 4g and when making a call it goes to the hspa+. Is that how the exynos versions show lte or is mine not picking up lte. Or how can i check to make sure it is running lte. Thanks in advance and from personal experience i enjoyed using my exynos s7 a lot more then my s7 edge from tmobile. The exynos runs a lot smoother.
Poli169 said:
Hello this might seem dumb but i can't find the answer anywhere. In the past i have owned phones that did not show lte on t-mobile and would instead show HSPA+ now on my s7 exynos it just shows 4g and when making a call it goes to the hspa+. Is that how the exynos versions show lte or is mine not picking up lte. Or how can i check to make sure it is running lte. Thanks in advance and from personal experience i enjoyed using my exynos s7 a lot more then my s7 edge from tmobile. The exynos runs a lot smoother.
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Yes, it is LTE. You can check in the settings, phone info area or with an app to switch network data type (in which you can chooses LTE only, etc.)

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