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Galaxy note 10.1 have hidden proximity sensor for smart covers like iPad

As the title says write *#0*# in dialer and you can test it, its called grip sensor located at the top right near the camera by about 1.5 inch , move your hand over it and It will detect your hand ,let the developers benefit from it
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doesnt all highend android device have it specifically all cell phones so that when you keep it on ur ear to talk it turn offs the screen

samir_a said:
doesn't all high end android device have it specifically all cell phones so that when you keep it on ur ear to talk it turn offs the screen
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Yes but tablets don't have proximity sensors (other than 7.7,7plus ) and it seems functioning only in the test menus so I think Samsung hide It for some reason as they haven't announced it in the official specifications , by the way have you tried it yourself
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hoss_n2 said:
Yes but tablets don't have proximity sensors (other than 7.7,7plus ) and it seems functioning only in the test menus so I think Samsung hide It for some reason as they haven't announced it in the official specifications , by the way have you tried it yourself
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how can we test on WiFi version 8010??

sharkeecz said:
how can we test on WiFi version 8010??
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Download the sgs secret codes from market and choose testimg mode

Got it thanks

Couldn't use the app....get few tests run, studio you need to be rooted?
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Hi Guys,
are we talking about the N8005 series?
Where is the dialer?
My device has got no dialer!!!

Cem Kamoy said:
Hi Guys,
are we talking about the N8005 series?
Where is the dialer?
My device has got no dialer!!!
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Does it have a SIM card slot? If not, there's no GSM radio and therefore no dialer.

Cem Kamoy said:
Hi Guys,
are we talking about the N8005 series?
Where is the dialer?
My device has got no dialer!!!
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N8005 has sim slot but no phone functionality. So to enable it flash any n8000 rom via Odin
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Any chance there could also be the FM hardware?

hoss_n2 said:
As the title says write *#0*# in dialer and you can test it, its called grip sensor located at the top right near the camera by about 1.5 inch , move your hand over it and It will detect your hand ,let the developers benefit from it
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I couldn't detect it. Tried placing my hand there during a call.

needachange said:
I couldn't detect it. Tried placing my hand there during a call.
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As I said the software makes no benfit from the sensor (dunno why) but you can test its existence in the test menus by typing *#0*# in the dialer then choose grip sensor
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Doesn't the Samsung Book Cover make use of this sensor?

Hilari0 said:
Doesn't the Samsung Book Cover make use of this sensor?
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No I tried it with no luck the function seems to be disabled by the software , and I think that they are afraid from apple patents war , that is why I opened this thread to make developers tell us how to benefit from this sensors, anyway have any on (other than me) tried it ?
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If you own an iPhone or iPad do not use them near the note, if detected by the proximity sensor... the blaster will destroy them
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The only news about a "grip sensor" on Samsung's device was revealed on Samsung Continuum Device which was a device with a 2nd display on the bottom released in december 2010... that display, show info about weather, news etc when you press the Grip sensor without wake up the first display..
I can't find other function about this "grip sensor" ...
Info on www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00012011&fm_seq=12179
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I hope the developers can do something with this. maybe sooner, we can have smart cover. I don't know why but i fancies the iPad's smart cover. Just the cover though. lol. :laugh:

I thought the iPads smart cover used the magnets to wake it up
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gmfeny said:
I thought the iPads smart cover used the magnets to wake it up
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Yes the iPad have magnetic field detector to feel ,magnets same idea but not same thing as the grip sensor in our note ,

Turning off screen when you close the cover.

I saw a cover for the nexus 7 that said it turns the screen off and on with the closing and opening of the screen. I assume it's done with the light sensor. Is there any way to dk it with the gt?
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those use the proximity sensor, and we don't have one so unfortunately no there is no way to set that up.

Its not the proximity sensor, its some sort of magnetic sensor. It does it if you have a small magnet in the right place on the case. As we do not have such a sensor on the tab, we cannot do the same thing.
In theory, you could write an app that turns off screen depending on what the light sensor senses
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daniel644 said:
those use the proximity sensor, and we don't have one so unfortunately no there is no way to set that up.
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Yes we do, theres 2 other things at the top of your tab aside from camera and phone speaker. They are the light and proximity sensorsl
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OptimusLove said:
Yes we do, theres 2 other things at the top of your tab aside from camera and phone speaker. They are the light and proximity sensorsl
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maybe on your 3100 but I installed this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5vbWQuYXV0b3NjcmVlbm9uIl0. that uses the proximity sensor to wake the screen and it said there wasn't one on my 3113. All I have is the camera and a light sensor.

suggestion
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maybe on your 3100 but I installed this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5vbWQuYXV0b3NjcmVlbm9uIl0. that uses the proximity sensor to wake the screen and it said there wasn't one on my 3113. All I have is the camera and a light sensor.
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instead of auto screen on u can use
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dragonnis.intellicover&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5kcmFnb25uaXMuaW50ZWxsaWNvdmVyIl0.
know as intellicover as it use much less battery as auto screen off
No Offense ,
just suggestion

hemantshah3 said:
instead of auto screen on u can use
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dragonnis.intellicover&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5kcmFnb25uaXMuaW50ZWxsaWNvdmVyIl0.
know as intellicover as it use much less battery as auto screen off
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just suggestion
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ok, cool, auto screen on was just the first I had found and it worked on the device I tested it on so I never looked for any others. still no use on my 3113, it says no proximity sensor.

hemantshah3 said:
instead of auto screen on u can use
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dragonnis.intellicover&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5kcmFnb25uaXMuaW50ZWxsaWNvdmVyIl0.
know as intellicover as it use much less battery as auto screen off
No Offense ,
just suggestion
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This works, however if you are using screen timeout, its not saving you much since it just turns the screen off, it does not put the device to sleep. It does function as an auto on / off for the screen. I found it very quirky , sometimes it works when I close the cover, sometimes it does not. Unfortunately there is no sensor calibration. I want to test it to see if it actually uses extra battery in order to keep the sensor alive. Also, its a bit flaky if you use some of the advanced features like turning on and off airplane mode.

Thanks. I didn't know about the magnet.
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uberNoobZA said:
In theory, you could write an app that turns off screen depending on what the light sensor senses
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No need to write such an app. There are several on the play store that do exactly that.
However I've tried them all and I can' get any to work properly using CM10. Others may have better luck.

Use smartcover from android market. It works very well.

[Q] Technology wise ... How does Air view work?

I have found threads and info about how it works on the Note 2, about magnets in the stylus but how does it know when your finger is hovering over the S4 screen?
Anyone know?

I have the same question.

Proximity sensor
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damador said:
Proximity sensor
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The one at the top of the phone?
So it sort of senses downwards as well as infront of itself?

damador said:
Proximity sensor
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No.
It's the same old touchscreen controller technology just much more sensitive.

AndreiLux said:
No.
It's the same old touchscreen controller technology just much more sensitive.
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I was reading about it's a new controller. With special features
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I'm just curious.
What are stock apps that able to utilize this function. I only notice this when I use Flipboard.
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rezaluchu said:
I'm just curious.
What are stock apps that able to utilize this function. I only notice this when I use Flipboard.
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I read somewhere that it was indeed the sensor at the top, mixed with the old technology too.
The apps I know it works with are stock email, stock texts and flipboard. Not sure what else. It doesn't even seem to work on lockscreen...

Eambo said:
I read somewhere that it was indeed the sensor at the top, mixed with the old technology too.
The apps I know it works with are stock email, stock texts and flipboard. Not sure what else. It doesn't even seem to work on lockscreen...
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How to use the air view on Stock text? I thought it can show the contents of text from text overview display. But when I tried, nothing shown.
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Sooo no way that this feature will be on the galaxy s3? Since it's hardware related
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Samsung is using a super sensitive capacitative touchscreen that can sense your finger even when its a short distance from the screen, essentially. its the same reason that there's an option so that you can use it with gloves on
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I'm no engineer, but this is my basic understanding gleaned from reading wikipedia and other sources. Capacitive touchscreens work by sensing changes in an electrostatic field. Your finger is an electrical conductor, which distorts the field. In normal phones the field is calibrated to extend just past the surface of the touchscreen. The S4's electrostatic field is simply overcalibrated to sense your finger from a distance, and it's also why it works with gloves on.

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nothing to do with the capacitive screen or proximity sensor. if the screen was THAT sensitive it'll be firing off to even the slightest atmospheric disturbance. actual workings are related to the 2 IR sensors flanking the speaker grill which individually log IR intensities emitted by ur finger in front of the screen. an algorithm then compares these values and works out where ur finger is pointing.

AFAIK it works with help of IR Sensor and/with Proximity Sensor
If screen sensitivity does this job then ...Nokia Lumia 920 to 520 all devices all should have this feature cuz all these devices have Super Sensitive screens
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MiG123 said:
nothing to do with the capacitive screen or proximity sensor. if the screen was THAT sensitive it'll be firing off to even the slightest atmospheric disturbance. actual workings are related to the 2 IR sensors flanking the speaker grill which individually log IR intensities emitted by ur finger in front of the screen. an algorithm then compares these values and works out where ur finger is pointing.
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The air is much more inert than your finger. The proximity/IR sensors just blast IR beams away from the phone for things like Air Gestures and have nothing to do with Air View. They certainly don't shoot beams across the surface of the screen to detect your finger. The finger hovering simply uses a more sensitive capacitive touchscreen, as Sony explains here:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/knowledge-base/technologies/floating-touch/

rezaluchu said:
How to use the air view on Stock text? I thought it can show the contents of text from text overview display. But when I tried, nothing shown.
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This happened with me also.
The air view works in stock messaging app , gallery , flipboard and even when you dial a number if you have speed dial feeded.
For this you need to hold air view option in notification bar for about 2 seconds then a set of options will open. There you can switch on air view for messaging, gallery etc etc.
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It will be the electromagnetic field that the screen is detecting from your skin/finger. The same way that on other screens, they don't work with gloves unless you have the special gloves that have conductive fingertips on them.
Nothing to do with the sensors on the top of the phone cos if you cover them up, air view still works! Plus the sensors aim out the top and at 90 degrees to the phone face, how would they sense something almost touching the screen on the bottom?
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Works with the calendar also.
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rezaluchu said:
I'm just curious.
What are stock apps that able to utilize this function. I only notice this when I use Flipboard.
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Stock Text
Stock Email
Flipboard
Gallery
Stock Video player (shows previews with sound, and on the progress bar)
Stock Music Player (Previews of song name and on progress bar)
Samsung Hub
S Planner
and S Memo
Just ensure you have Information Preview and Progress Preview turned On in Settings.

this pic say no temperture sensor at note 3 ??

this pic say no temperature sensor at note 3 !! and on gsmarena it say it have this sensor
any one from the owners of N3 can assure that info ?

it has ambient temp sensor should be good

It has , and I can confirm it

m4sta2k said:
It has , and I can confirm it
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you test it on your phone ?

I'm using weather signal app and it sees the proper temperature sensor (not using the battery one) on my N9005.
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chrisn0123 said:
I'm using weather signal app and it sees the proper temperature sensor (not using the battery one) on my N9005.
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thx man but this pic from n9000
any one can assure that working on Exynos version ?

I have n9005 and it has the same sensors , including temperaturesensor. So dont worry

At first when I got my N9005 I also thought theres no "temperature sensor" only "ambient sensor"? Seems some apps like Android Sensor Box may have not updated their app then I found out that the "TYPE_TEMPERATURE" sensor was replaced with the "TYPE_AMBIENT_TEMPERATURE" sensor in API Level 14 and has been deprecated.
See this link developer.android.com/guide/topics/sensors/sensors_overview.html
Hope it clears many doubts.

Bottom Right hole?

Hey guys, just noticed this today. I know the top and bottom holes are for the microphone but then i found another hole on the bottom right, anyone know whats it for?
Talking about the N9005, don't know if the N9000 has the same.

Bottom Right?
Don't suppose you mean the Spen slot..?

ShadowLea said:
Bottom Right?
Don't suppose you mean the Spen slot..?
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hehe no not that one, its on the right side of the phone all the way to the bottom just above the corner. the hole is a bit bigger than a microphone hole.
http://assets.hardwarezone.com/img/2013/09/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-Note-2-side.jpg
You can see it on the picture i linked

Probably noise cancelation.
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prob temp and humidity sensor

Yes, I see it... I have no idea what it could be. It's not listed on the Consultant Guide or the Manual (http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...UM_EU_Jellybean_Eng_Rev.1.0_130910_Screen.pdf )
It is no doubt a sensor, though which remains a mystery.

Temp and humidity sensor. Is the only one.who needs contact with the surrounding air. On the bottom the heat from the process will alter the readings. I'm 100% that i'm right about this.
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calinormy said:
Temp and humidity sensor. Is the only one.who needs contact with the surrounding air. On the bottom the heat from the process will alter the readings. I'm 100% that i'm right about this.p
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What is your source?

Common sense. I do.have S4 with temp.and.humidity sensor and it's a hole more than the two mics. The Note 3 the same, only other placement of the hole. the S4 active does not have the temp and humidity sensor...so no extra hole, just thw two mics.
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Do people actually use the humidity sensor a lot?

redpill2016 said:
Do people actually use the humidity sensor a lot?
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Yes, to check humidity...... :laugh:

Amdathlonuk said:
Yes, to check humidity...... :laugh:
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That's my point, how often do you really care what the humidity level is?

I used to drag race and a humidity sensor would have been great to have back then. Helps with calculations for settings.
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That's my point, how often do you really care what the humidity level is?
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Well let's just say it's as useful as air gesture and smart screen stuff. But that's samsung for you.
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Isn't humidity and barometer sensor supposed to help with location in google maps? And I would suspect that those might be useful in a crowd sourcing app or whatever for more accurate weather per location if it is available to be used that way which as of now I don't think it is.

This article is an interesting read about how the sensor got incorporated into samsung devices/android.

Acording to Anandtech it's actually the third microphone that's used for noise cancellation : http://www.anandtech.com/show/7376/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review
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There's no temperature sensor on the Note 3.
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Yes there is...
There is temprature, and humidity ... the humidity makes no sense whatsoever... who cares ??? why would a phone care???
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There's no temperature sensor on the Note 3.
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SquirtingCherry said:
Hey guys, just noticed this today. I know the top and bottom holes are for the microphone but then i found another hole on the bottom right, anyone know whats it for?
Talking about the N9005, don't know if the N9000 has the same.
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Hi, I've my unit purchased in India. Don't know which model. I think It's 9000. It has a hole in the right side. Don't know what for. Besides, on the bottom right, next to S Pen slot, there is a rectangular open slot too. Any idea?